Rasi/Divisional chart show Prarabdha/Sanchita - Visti, PVR disagree

June 15, 2006

Dear Sundeep,

I am not very learned in this matter and I am just an learner and a seeker of truth who is yet to be fully satisfied. So you will be wise to take my words with a pinch of salt.

My thinking is that none of the sixteen divisional charts we normally use shows sanchita karma. I wonder if there is actually a higher astrological chart/parameter that throws light on sanchita karma (karma accumulated from previous lives that will be experienced in future lives, if there are future lives). My thinking is that shashtyamsa, rasi and allied divisional charts throw light only on various aspects of praarbdha karma (part of karma accumulated from previous lives that is earmarked to be experienced in the current life).

BTW, I think that career should be seen by combining dasamsa with rasi and shashtyamsa atleast. But, if one wants to use only chart and not go into combining several charts, I'd rather use just dasamsa than just rasi. But, my position is that unless atleast rasi and shashtyamsa are combined with a divisional chart such as dasamsa, fine judgments cannot be made. Anything else is, to me, an approximation. Judging dasamsa alone, to me, is the best approximation. Others may disagree.

Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,

Narasimha (PVR)

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> Dear Visti/PVR/Other Gurus,

>

> I was reading Visti's article on Navamsa (at http://srigaruda.com), and

> Visti says that divisional charts show Sanchita karma, whereas Rasi

> shows Prarabdha karma. PVR, in a different thread, seems to support the

> notion that in order to see a specific aspect of life, you can simply

> look at that divisional. He specifically mentioned this with the

> Dasamsa. But when I put Visti's comments together with PVRs, things

> dont seem to be consistent. Because then it would seem from Visti's

> statements that Dasamsa (for example) would show the Sanchita Karma

> of "career", whereas 10th house of Rasi would show the Prarabdha Karma

> of "career". So, why look at the Dasamsa at all? Only the Prarabdha

> Karma is going to play out in this life time, no? Even if you say that

> Sanchita Karma sets the baseline over and above which the Prarabdha

> plays out, it still means that looking at only the divisional is not

> sufficient.

>

> Can someone clarify what exactly is the truth? Does each divisional

> show some aspect of Sanchita Karma? What, in this context, is

> Shastyamsa then? I used to think that Shastyamsa shows the full

> Sanchita Karma..

>

> Sundeep

June 15, 2006

Narasimha,

Oh please stop saying "I am just a learner ..."! You are making the

rest of us neophytes and 'learners' a bit tongue-tied!! :-)

Let us just accept that *all* of us here are learners, even teachers

included, because can a-n-y-o-n-e who breathes and lives in

mrityuloka claim to be 100% accurate? Or 95% for that matter? Even

Mensa only takes the top 2 percentile in its fold!

Anyway, back to the regular programming -- the term 'mahatphalam'

used by Parashara for dashamamsha always made me wonder if

dashamamsha chart was indeed primarily about occupation and vocation

and source of daily bread alone or more related to 'significant

karmic missions'. Would the varga even become *active* in all

charts ... or the majority, even?

Tossing a question not just at Narasimha, but others who may not be

too pressed by the most abundant entity of time and may desire to

contribute. I am assuming, of course, that none of the super

busy 'rat-race' executive bunch is here on Jyotishgroup during

astrology-time ;-)

Rohiniranjan

, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr

wrote:

>

> Dear Sundeep,

>

> I am not very learned in this matter and I am just an learner and a

seeker of truth who is yet to be fully satisfied. So you will be wise

to take my words with a pinch of salt.

>

> My thinking is that none of the sixteen divisional charts we

normally use shows sanchita karma. I wonder if there is actually a

higher astrological chart/parameter that throws light on sanchita

karma (karma accumulated from previous lives that will be experienced

in future lives, if there are future lives). My thinking is that

shashtyamsa, rasi and allied divisional charts throw light only on

various aspects of praarbdha karma (part of karma accumulated from

previous lives that is earmarked to be experienced in the current

life).

>

> BTW, I think that career should be seen by combining dasamsa with

rasi and shashtyamsa atleast. But, if one wants to use only chart and

not go into combining several charts, I'd rather use just dasamsa

than just rasi. But, my position is that unless atleast rasi and

shashtyamsa are combined with a divisional chart such as dasamsa,

fine judgments cannot be made. Anything else is, to me, an

approximation. Judging dasamsa alone, to me, is the best

approximation. Others may disagree.

>

> Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,

> Narasimha (PVR)

> -------------------------------

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> Free Jyotish software (Windows): http://www.VedicAstrologer.org

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> -------------------------------

>

> > Dear Visti/PVR/Other Gurus,

> >

> > I was reading Visti's article on Navamsa (at

http://srigaruda.com), and

> > Visti says that divisional charts show Sanchita karma, whereas

Rasi

> > shows Prarabdha karma. PVR, in a different thread, seems to

support the

> > notion that in order to see a specific aspect of life, you can

simply

> > look at that divisional. He specifically mentioned this with the

> > Dasamsa. But when I put Visti's comments together with PVRs,

things

> > dont seem to be consistent. Because then it would seem from

Visti's

> > statements that Dasamsa (for example) would show the Sanchita

Karma

> > of "career", whereas 10th house of Rasi would show the Prarabdha

Karma

> > of "career". So, why look at the Dasamsa at all? Only the

Prarabdha

> > Karma is going to play out in this life time, no? Even if you say

that

> > Sanchita Karma sets the baseline over and above which the

Prarabdha

> > plays out, it still means that looking at only the divisional is

not

> > sufficient.

> >

> > Can someone clarify what exactly is the truth? Does each

divisional

> > show some aspect of Sanchita Karma? What, in this context, is

> > Shastyamsa then? I used to think that Shastyamsa shows the full

> > Sanchita Karma..

> >

> > Sundeep

>

June 15, 2006

Dear Members:

What Shri. P.V>Narasimha Rao has said is quite to the point. Dasaamsa

is the chart to be studied in combination with Rasi and Shastiyaamsa

for judging career aspects as this is the divisional chart for

accessing profession.

Regarding Sanchita / Prarabdha karma, the horoscope at birth is the

indicator of the net prarabdha karma AS IT EXISTS AT BIRTH OF A

NATIVE. So, reading only from natal horoscopes cannot explain certain

events in current life which may have arisen from sanchita karma (the

acts that a person now that may form the seed for future karma and

also sometimes gives results in this life itself). Prashna chart will

explain the effects of sanchita karma.

In fact, Prashna Marga gives an explanation like this.....if the natal

chart has more benefic influences while the Prashna chart has malefic

combinations it should be understood that the prarabdha karma of the

individual is good but he is suffering due to misdeeds of the current

birth (sanchita). If the natal chart has malefic combinations but the

prashna chart has benefic aspects, then it should be understood that

the prarabdha is bad while the person's current actions have been

good, and hence the sufferings are a result of prarabdha. One

important thing to be understood is that prarabdha is very strong and

hence evils arising out of prarabdha can be mitigated only by

experiencing the results AT LEAST IN SMALL MEASURE! For instance, if

you are doomed by prarabdha to lose your wife, at least long

separations will have to be experienced if not actual death of wife

(this sort of astrological alibis operate in the lives of persons who

live spotless lives in the current birth but have accumulated some

evil karma in the past lives). Whereas, results arising out of

sanchita karma can be easily modified by easy remedies and change of

attitudes.

Whether it is Sanchita or Prarabdha karma, all these can be burnt

away by absolute devotion to the Lord and Tapasya. The very act of

consecrating your lives to the Divine will ensure that you are no

longer bound by the bonds of karma. This is the way of Great Yogis..

....They can willfully experience results of their karma just to obey

the laws of nature and Dharma as an example to others but are not

actually required to suffer like we mortals!.....Tapasya and Gnaana

will destroy all sins. Ekaadasi vratam burns away all sins.

Gaayathri mantra destroys all sins......Reciting Agamarshana Sooktham

(trupudaadhiva munchatu.....)/Gaayathri sthothram (beginning with

"Bhaktaanukampin sarvagya hrudayam paapa naasanam....) while taking

bath destroys all sins.....A holy bath with absolute Faith in the Holy

Ganges destroys all sins.......These are ways by which one can modify

prarabdha to a great extent if not actually extinguishing it.

Ultimately, the goal of human existence is to experience prarabdha and

extinguish it, reduce sanchita karma so that there is no aagami karma

(sanchita karma which has not given fruits in this birth will become

prarabdha karma for the next birth; such karma is called aagami karma

of this birth!). Thus, when there is a nil balance of all these three

karmaas, a person becomes a "mukta" - a liberated one who is free from

the cycle of births and deaths!

May Lord Dakshinamoorthi - the Lord of Wisdom Guide us.

Blessed be.

Pandit. R.DAKSHINAMOORTHI.

In vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr