Seeking remedies, much more TAMIL use regular words-2

[Guest guest]

Dear RR,

sure I agree with what u said on European As I have leart french and seen german, spanish, Italine books at home, can't read though.

about tamils is these people can use the regular words but they like sounding different all the time. that is why the mention here, and can all make sense of the different words from regular words

now a simple quiz for noN tamils

FIX THE REGUALR WORD FOR THESE

AMOGAM

MAGAYA NAMAGE

UTTARADAM

PURVATTADI

TIRUVADARAI

PUNARPUSAM

AYILYAM

THIRUVONAM

SADAYAM

KATTAI

easier ones

Magam, Maham

chittarai

KIRITHIGAI

punarpusam

Miragashirisham

this is byurereh tamil

this is not to belittle anyone but we need soe estandard to make ourselves clear to all. just as English is unlike other European languages

crystal pages <rrgb (AT) sprint (DOT) ca> wrote: Kumar ji,

If I may interject with a personal note (short one, I promise!) ...

Although I have no understanding of Tamil, I have always found

these 'variations' very interesting, even attractive when they appear

in astrological writing, and nearly always easily understandable!

OTOH, I find the 'transliteration' symbols used mostly in european

writings -- and also by some Indians writing for Europeans, I

suppose -- more difficult to understand and actually those slow me

down and thereby create a bit of frustration. The Tamil variants

somehow feel less foreign and even pleasant. I am just being very

honest and direct, no offense or bias intended towards anyone.

RR

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Srinivasan and other tamils

>

> please USE regular /sanskrit or english names and not tamil names

whch no ONE except tamils or ones knowing it can guess each part of

TN has a diff sound to it also

>

> GOCHARA OR TRANSIT not cochara

> rahu or dragon head not ragu

> ketu or dragon tail not kedu

> [actually tamils the end is prounenced so terribley] say rAgeuh,

kEdeUh it is our fortune we dont have the sound bytes to deal with

here. I live in chennai so can tell it is tamil but here we have

Indian and international people so plsae use standard names even for

stars please buy a simple book say Astrology for Beginers by B V

RAMAN or Every Day astrology by VAK AYER.

> learn some right words and use them.

>

> I expect a egoistic reply like last time when I pointed on

tamil's Privy council case in London durign British Raj days.

> and not a reasonable reply/

> srinivasan Natarajan <kethubles

wrote: sir, u r sade sani

is still on till nov 2006, but with cochara the 5th place is

ocuupied by jupitor, though there is something bothering u neednot

loose heart, MAKE SURE in u r mind that a glorious time is there

after 22-10-2007. this will sure be different with the present

situation. till nov 2006 on all saturdays offer fresh butter to lord

hanuman and pray for his blessings we will sure pray for U

> NATARAJANSRINIVASAN KETHUBLES

> patrioticsir <patrioticsir wrote: Namaste all:

>

> My name is Aditya and I am an indian student currently in the US.

My

> DOB is April 16, 1986 with birth time 7:10 pm in indore city of

> madhya pradesh, india. My moon rashi is Mithun and I am currently

> running sadhe sati (as I understand it).

>

> Not to disclose the exact details but the past year or so has been

> devastating in terms of everything. I was accused of doing

something

> that I did admit to (foolish mistake) and was given a terrible

> suspension. I almost killed myself in attempted suicide (another

> stupid mistake something that I consider myself completely out of

> character). I had to return to india and them come back.

>

> My luck is currently so bad that on my transit in milan

authorities

> actually frisked me and hit me only to later apologize for the

> mistake. I have also wasted so much money in tuition so far. My

> relationship with my family and parents ahs become worse and

nobody

> really likes me. In March this year I got into a head accident

(not

> a serious one) and I somehow (yea even i dunno how i have

survived)

>

> It has also apparently affected my father (his medical practice

has

> suffered) and my grandmother (as i consider her my guru) who has

> somehow lost her mental/psychological balance. I also constantly

> bicker with my family.

>

> I had a few questions -

>

> i) Do you know for how long sadhe sati will end for those in

mithun

> rashi - sometime in november 2006

>

> ii) I am also running the venus antardasha and saturn mahadasha

WITH

> THE SADHE SATI - is that bad ? what is particularly bad in my

kundli

> that is causing all of this and is there a time when this should

> end ??

>

> iii) Are there any remedies that I could use - i tried doing

> hanuman chalisa and shani kavacha but absolutely everything is

> getting ruined on a daily basis and I really need a solution

>

> iv) I was hoping to find a way to prevent things from happenign

to

> my family as well.

>

> please help me

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Kumar,

 

1.i think you are getting wrong with the words...i suppose ...

transliteration of single individual from tamil to english does not

render the language in poor taste...

2. you're getting confused with tamil and malayalam words which more

or less sound similiar with tamil words...in fact all dravidian

words are inter related atleast on phonetic basis...

3. personally i feel you are totally biased with tamil and

tamilian ...for reasons best known to you only..i've seen some of

your mails recently ....

 

for your example...the right tamil word for gochara is graha

sara...but the srinivasan has written it as cochara...it shows his

conversion to english of the same word used by all but not the

correct tamil word...in fact many of the people in tamilnadu has

forgotten the usage of beautiful tamil and malayalam words...which

has its roots in sanskrit...

 

I am not a tamilian for your info (maharashtrian living in mumbai)

but i know the richness of tamil language and its depth in

literature and i consider it as one of the oldest considering the

time thirukkural is written...

 

finally what is important is understanding the message conveyed by

the writer and not the words...

 

Now you can take it whichever way you want...i felt like writing

this...to you as a good friend...

 

best wishes

sriganeshh

 

 

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear RR,

>

> sure I agree with what u said on European As I have leart french

and seen german, spanish, Italine books at home, can't read though.

>

> about tamils is these people can use the regular words but they

like sounding different all the time. that is why the mention

here, and can all make sense of the different words from regular

words

>

> now a simple quiz for noN tamils

>

> FIX THE REGUALR WORD FOR THESE

> AMOGAM

> MAGAYA NAMAGE

> UTTARADAM

> PURVATTADI

>

> TIRUVADARAI

> PUNARPUSAM

> AYILYAM

> THIRUVONAM

> SADAYAM

> KATTAI

>

> easier ones

> Magam, Maham

> chittarai

> KIRITHIGAI

> punarpusam

> Miragashirisham

>

> this is byurereh tamil

>

> this is not to belittle anyone but we need soe estandard to

make ourselves clear to all. just as English is unlike other

European languages

>

> crystal pages <rrgb

wrote: Kumar ji,

>

> If I may interject with a personal note (short one, I

promise!) ...

> Although I have no understanding of Tamil, I have always found

> these 'variations' very interesting, even attractive when they

appear

> in astrological writing, and nearly always easily understandable!

>

> OTOH, I find the 'transliteration' symbols used mostly in

european

> writings -- and also by some Indians writing for Europeans, I

> suppose -- more difficult to understand and actually those slow

me

> down and thereby create a bit of frustration. The Tamil variants

> somehow feel less foreign and even pleasant. I am just being

very

> honest and direct, no offense or bias intended towards anyone.

>

> RR

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Srinivasan and other tamils

> >

> > please USE regular /sanskrit or english names and not tamil

names

> whch no ONE except tamils or ones knowing it can guess each

part of

> TN has a diff sound to it also

> >

> > GOCHARA OR TRANSIT not cochara

> > rahu or dragon head not ragu

> > ketu or dragon tail not kedu

> > [actually tamils the end is prounenced so terribley] say

rAgeuh,

> kEdeUh it is our fortune we dont have the sound bytes to deal

with

> here. I live in chennai so can tell it is tamil but here we

have

> Indian and international people so plsae use standard names

even for

> stars please buy a simple book say Astrology for Beginers by B

V

> RAMAN or Every Day astrology by VAK AYER.

> > learn some right words and use them.

> >

> > I expect a egoistic reply like last time when I pointed on

> tamil's Privy council case in London durign British Raj days.

> > and not a reasonable reply/

> > srinivasan Natarajan <kethubles@>

> wrote: sir, u r sade

sani

> is still on till nov 2006, but with cochara the 5th place is

> ocuupied by jupitor, though there is something bothering u

neednot

> loose heart, MAKE SURE in u r mind that a glorious time is there

> after 22-10-2007. this will sure be different with the present

> situation. till nov 2006 on all saturdays offer fresh butter to

lord

> hanuman and pray for his blessings we will sure pray for U

> > NATARAJANSRINIVASAN KETHUBLES

> > patrioticsir <patrioticsir@> wrote: Namaste all:

> >

> > My name is Aditya and I am an indian student currently in

the US.

> My

> > DOB is April 16, 1986 with birth time 7:10 pm in indore city

of

> > madhya pradesh, india. My moon rashi is Mithun and I am

currently

> > running sadhe sati (as I understand it).

> >

> > Not to disclose the exact details but the past year or so

has been

> > devastating in terms of everything. I was accused of doing

> something

> > that I did admit to (foolish mistake) and was given a

terrible

> > suspension. I almost killed myself in attempted suicide

(another

> > stupid mistake something that I consider myself completely

out of

> > character). I had to return to india and them come back.

> >

> > My luck is currently so bad that on my transit in milan

> authorities

> > actually frisked me and hit me only to later apologize for

the

> > mistake. I have also wasted so much money in tuition so far.

My

> > relationship with my family and parents ahs become worse and

> nobody

> > really likes me. In March this year I got into a head

accident

> (not

> > a serious one) and I somehow (yea even i dunno how i have

> survived)

> >

> > It has also apparently affected my father (his medical

practice

> has

> > suffered) and my grandmother (as i consider her my guru) who

has

> > somehow lost her mental/psychological balance. I also

constantly

> > bicker with my family.

> >

> > I had a few questions -

> >

> > i) Do you know for how long sadhe sati will end for those in

> mithun

> > rashi - sometime in november 2006

> >

> > ii) I am also running the venus antardasha and saturn

mahadasha

> WITH

> > THE SADHE SATI - is that bad ? what is particularly bad in

my

> kundli

> > that is causing all of this and is there a time when this

should

> > end ??

> >

> > iii) Are there any remedies that I could use - i tried doing

> > hanuman chalisa and shani kavacha but absolutely everything

is

> > getting ruined on a daily basis and I really need a solution

> >

> > iv) I was hoping to find a way to prevent things from

happenign

> to

> > my family as well.

> >

> > please help me

> >

> >

> >

> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

around

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Kumarji,

 

Lest there be misunderstanding in the minds of any European forum

members, when I said, the transliteration bothers me or slows me

down, it was not a comment on their language! What I meant was the

characters with diatribes etc that linguists use when writing a

sanskrit sloka in another lipi, such as Roman (english, french etc)

in order to preserve the pronounciation of sanskrit when written in a

european language. Obviously, part of that is because of my

familiarity with those symbols and puristically speaking that is the

right or at least uniform way, same as the pronounciation symbols

used in any dictionary! Without those we would not know how to say a

word properly. And to given an example from english, you can write

record only one way, but pronounce it two different ways and each

then means two different things! Of course, you know all that.

 

Mon plaisir, monsieur, vraiment de parler avec un person multilingue!

J'admire les personnes comme ca!

 

Si vous voulez essayiez, il ya une site web d'astrologie (beaucoup

des choses!) sur l'internet. Denis Laboure est le maitre du web <?>.

C'est magnifique!

 

Bien amicalement!

 

RR

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear RR,

>

> sure I agree with what u said on European As I have leart french

and seen german, spanish, Italine books at home, can't read though.

>

> about tamils is these people can use the regular words but they

like sounding different all the time. that is why the mention

here, and can all make sense of the different words from regular

words

>

> now a simple quiz for noN tamils

>

> FIX THE REGUALR WORD FOR THESE

> AMOGAM

> MAGAYA NAMAGE

> UTTARADAM

> PURVATTADI

>

> TIRUVADARAI

> PUNARPUSAM

> AYILYAM

> THIRUVONAM

> SADAYAM

> KATTAI

>

> easier ones

> Magam, Maham

> chittarai

> KIRITHIGAI

> punarpusam

> Miragashirisham

>

> this is byurereh tamil

>

> this is not to belittle anyone but we need soe estandard to make

ourselves clear to all. just as English is unlike other European

languages

>

> crystal pages <rrgb

wrote: Kumar ji,

>

> If I may interject with a personal note (short one, I

promise!) ...

> Although I have no understanding of Tamil, I have always found

> these 'variations' very interesting, even attractive when they

appear

> in astrological writing, and nearly always easily understandable!

>

> OTOH, I find the 'transliteration' symbols used mostly in

european

> writings -- and also by some Indians writing for Europeans, I

> suppose -- more difficult to understand and actually those slow

me

> down and thereby create a bit of frustration. The Tamil variants

> somehow feel less foreign and even pleasant. I am just being very

> honest and direct, no offense or bias intended towards anyone.

>

> RR

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Srinivasan and other tamils

> >

> > please USE regular /sanskrit or english names and not tamil

names

> whch no ONE except tamils or ones knowing it can guess each part

of

> TN has a diff sound to it also

> >

> > GOCHARA OR TRANSIT not cochara

> > rahu or dragon head not ragu

> > ketu or dragon tail not kedu

> > [actually tamils the end is prounenced so terribley] say

rAgeuh,

> kEdeUh it is our fortune we dont have the sound bytes to deal

with

> here. I live in chennai so can tell it is tamil but here we have

> Indian and international people so plsae use standard names even

for

> stars please buy a simple book say Astrology for Beginers by B V

> RAMAN or Every Day astrology by VAK AYER.

> > learn some right words and use them.

> >

> > I expect a egoistic reply like last time when I pointed on

> tamil's Privy council case in London durign British Raj days.

> > and not a reasonable reply/

> > srinivasan Natarajan <kethubles@>

> wrote: sir, u r sade

sani

> is still on till nov 2006, but with cochara the 5th place is

> ocuupied by jupitor, though there is something bothering u

neednot

> loose heart, MAKE SURE in u r mind that a glorious time is there

> after 22-10-2007. this will sure be different with the present

> situation. till nov 2006 on all saturdays offer fresh butter to

lord

> hanuman and pray for his blessings we will sure pray for U

> > NATARAJANSRINIVASAN KETHUBLES

> > patrioticsir <patrioticsir@> wrote: Namaste all:

> >

> > My name is Aditya and I am an indian student currently in the

US.

> My

> > DOB is April 16, 1986 with birth time 7:10 pm in indore city

of

> > madhya pradesh, india. My moon rashi is Mithun and I am

currently

> > running sadhe sati (as I understand it).

> >

> > Not to disclose the exact details but the past year or so has

been

> > devastating in terms of everything. I was accused of doing

> something

> > that I did admit to (foolish mistake) and was given a

terrible

> > suspension. I almost killed myself in attempted suicide

(another

> > stupid mistake something that I consider myself completely

out of

> > character). I had to return to india and them come back.

> >

> > My luck is currently so bad that on my transit in milan

> authorities

> > actually frisked me and hit me only to later apologize for

the

> > mistake. I have also wasted so much money in tuition so far.

My

> > relationship with my family and parents ahs become worse and

> nobody

> > really likes me. In March this year I got into a head

accident

> (not

> > a serious one) and I somehow (yea even i dunno how i have

> survived)

> >

> > It has also apparently affected my father (his medical

practice

> has

> > suffered) and my grandmother (as i consider her my guru) who

has

> > somehow lost her mental/psychological balance. I also

constantly

> > bicker with my family.

> >

> > I had a few questions -

> >

> > i) Do you know for how long sadhe sati will end for those in

> mithun

> > rashi - sometime in november 2006

> >

> > ii) I am also running the venus antardasha and saturn

mahadasha

> WITH

> > THE SADHE SATI - is that bad ? what is particularly bad in my

> kundli

> > that is causing all of this and is there a time when this

should

> > end ??

> >

> > iii) Are there any remedies that I could use - i tried doing

> > hanuman chalisa and shani kavacha but absolutely everything is

> > getting ruined on a daily basis and I really need a solution

> >

> > iv) I was hoping to find a way to prevent things from

happenign

> to

> > my family as well.

> >

> > please help me

> >

> >

> >

> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

around

> >

> >

> >