Guest guest Posted June 16, 2006 Report Share Posted June 16, 2006 (From previous post: Maharshi. ... the Self comprises all. It is the screen, the pictures, the seer, the actors, the operator, the light, the theatre, and all else. Your confounding the Self with the body and imagining yourself the actor is like the seer representing himself as actor in the cinema show. Imagine the actor asking if he can enact a scene without the screen! Such is the case of the man who thinks of his actions apart from the Self.) ....continued: Disciple: On the other hand, it is like asking the spectator to act in the cinema picture. So we must learn sleep-waking! Maharshi: Actions and states are according to one's point of view. A crow, an elephant, a snake, each makes use of one limb for two alternate purposes. With one eye the crow looks on either side: for the elephant the trunk serves the purpose of both a hand and a nose and the serpent sees as well as hears with its eyes. Whether you say the crow has an eye or eyes, or refer to the trunk of the elephant as 'hand' or 'nose', or call the eyes of the serpent its ears, it means all the same. Similarly, in the case of the Jnani, sleep-waking or waking-sleep, or dream-sleep or dreaming wakefulness, are all much the same thing. D. But we have to deal with a physical body in a physical waking world! If we sleep while working is going on, or try to work while asleep, the work will go wrong. M. Sleep is not ignorance, it is one's pure state; wakefulness is not knowledge, it is ignorance. There is full awareness in sleep and total ignorance is in waking. Your real nature covers both and extends beyond. The Self is beyond both knowledge and ignorance. Sleep, dream, and waking states are only modes passing before the Self: they proceed whether you are aware of them or not. That is the state of the Jnani, in whom pass the states of samadhi, waking, dream, and sleep, like the bulls moving, standing, or being unyoked, while the passenger is asleep. These answers are from the point of view of the ajnani; otherwise such questions would not arise. (From Maharshi's Gospel, published by Sri Ramanasramam and available for download from http://www.ramana-maharshi.org/ ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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