Official Ramakanta vs. IRM discussion thread

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Dear Yaduraja Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP!

 

> I see the contradictions since they are there. Everyone reading our

> exchanges can see that first you wrote:

>

> > Srila Prabhupada's program was that in 1975 all his disciples are

> > allowed to initiate (letter to Hamsadutta).

> (Ramakanta das May 26, 2006 - 04:25 AM)

>

> when you had PREVIOUSLY claimed:

>

> > ...it is not the etiquette that a disciples initiates his own disciples

> > while his guru is still present.

> (Ramakanta das Nov 16, 2005 - 06:40 AM)

>

> Since we all know Srila Prabhupada was still physically present in 1975

> you completely contradicted your own position.

 

The first statement is Srila Prabhupada's statement in his letter to

Hamsaduta. And the second statement is Srila Prabhupada's instruction given

several times. Therefore you have now said that Srila Prabhupada

contradicted himself. Since you recently wrote that Srila Prabhupada does

not contradict himself, you have thus contradicted yourself.

 

But maybe you think that my position is: "Srila Prabhupada wanted that in

1975 his disciples accept their own disciples" (this is not my position). In

that case there is a contradiction only if the etiquette not to initiate

one's own disciples while one's guru is still present prevents Srila

Prabhupada from instructing his disciples to accept their own disciples

while he is still present. Can you prove that by quotes from Srila

Prabhupada?

 

Also, your claim that Srila Prabhupada's letter to Hamsaduta could only be

referring to disciples initiating on his behalf is unproven since five days.

I suggest you follow Srila Prabhupada's instruction (Bg 17.15 purport) and

at once back up your statements by quotes. Otherwise you can never win this

debate.

 

Please reply only when you can produce proofs of your claims, or when you

withdraw them.

 

ys Ramakanta dasa