Official Ramakanta vs. IRM discussion thread

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Posted by Yaduraja on Jun 21, 2006:

 

Dear Ramakanta Prabhu,

PAMHO. AGTSP!

OK so I can see i will have to explain your self-defeat for the SIXTH TIME!!

 

You quote me:

 

> I see the contradictions since they are there. Everyone reading our

> exchanges can see that first you wrote:

>

> Srila Prabhupada's program was that in 1975 all his disciples are allowed

> to initiate (letter to Hamsadutta).

> (Ramakanta das May 26, 2006 - 04:25 AM)

>

> when you had PREVIOUSLY claimed:

>

> ...it is not the etiquette that a disciples initiates his own disciples

> while his guru is still present.

> (Ramakanta das Nov 16, 2005 - 06:40 AM)

>

> Since we all know Srila Prabhupada was still physically present in 1975

> you completely contradicted your own position.

 

 

Then comment:

 

> The first statement is Srila Prabhupada's statement in his letter to

> Hamsaduta.

 

Which you used to support:

 

"In 1968 Srila Prabhupada did not want to be the sole diksa guru for ISKCON

for its whole duration"

 

Which contradicts:

 

iit is not the etiquette that a disciples initiates his own disciples while

his guru is still present. (Ramakanta das Nov 16, 2005 - 06:40 AM)

 

Since Srila Prabhupada was still present in 1975.

 

Since we both agree that Srila Prabhupada is a perfect spiritual master who

does not contradict himself over such monumentally important issues of

disciplic succession, then according to an authority you claim is above all

life on earth you have two choices with regards the Hamsadutta letter:

 

1)Srila Prabhupada expected to leave the planet before 1975?

 

OR

 

2)He was he thinking of creating ritvik gurus who would initiate on his

behalf by 1975?

 

Please tell us which of these two options is now your position. If it is

option 1) then please prove it. If it is option 2) then why did you use this

evidence to prove:

 

"In 1968 Srila Prabhupada did not want to be the sole diksa guru for ISKCON

for its whole duration"

 

Best wishes

Ys

Yadu