a counter example / Beware of Kali's agents

[Guest guest]

Dear Mahatma prabhu,

 

My obeisances to you. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

 

> > As far as I know and have personally seen, guru tattva is not spoken of

> > in his seminars. There are many devotees in Alachua who have taken his

> > seminar and I am not aware that anyone anyone has become a ritvik as a

> > result of the seminar.

 

Many years ago no one could foresee Narayan Maharaja's destructive influence

on ISKCON either. Are you expecting that someone produce a glass ball to

satisfy you that someone who has rejected his guru and embraces apsiddhantic

theories is in a position to "help" devotees, despite the fact that he

doesn't specifically teach this theory in his class? How can anyone working

from such a faulty basis offer anything helpful? How many times must the

term "milk touched by the lips of a serpent" be spoken until it is accepted?

And finally, show me ONE SINGLE QUOTE where Prabhupada or any of our

previous acaryas promote or recommend the use of modern psychological tools

to assist one develop Krishna consciousness. I am waiting....

 

Your servant,

Braja Sevaki dd

[Guest guest]

Braja Sevika,

 

I wanted to clarify the point that he doesn't teach ritvik in his seminars

because that is what people were saying. That isn't true.

 

I also expressed a personal observation. I have friends I am close to who have

taken his course and are as loyal to their gurus as they were before they took

the course.

 

I can see that you are concerned that his association is deterimental becasue

of his stand on guru tattva. That is a justifiable concern, no doubt. I only

made the point that I haven't personally seen that play out, and there are more

devotees here who have taken his courses than anywhere else.

 

This doesn't make what he is doing right or wrong.

 

How can anyone working from such a faulty basis offer anything helpful?

 

Again I have seen him personally help many gurukulis who have been abused and

other's who have had severe emotional problems.

 

And finally, show me ONE SINGLE QUOTE where Prabhupada or any of our

previous acaryas promote or recommend the use of modern psychological tools

to assist one develop Krishna consciousness. I am waiting....

 

The use of pyschology may never assist one in becoming KC directly, but it can

help people deal with deep emotional issues which in turn may create more

stablility in their lives and enable them to practice KC better.

 

 

 

> > As far as I know and have personally seen, guru tattva is not spoken of

> > in his seminars. There are many devotees in Alachua who have taken his

> > seminar and I am not aware that anyone anyone has become a ritvik as a

> > result of the seminar.

 

Your servant,

Braja Sevaki dd

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