a counter example / Beware of Kali's agents

[Guest guest]

>

> People who suffer also take shelter of Buddhism and Mayavada to relieve

> their suffering, and they often enough get the bliss they were after. Can

> adding some Buddhism or Mayavada to a spiritual program help a devotee,

> even if it helps her "deal with deep emotional issues" and creates "more

> stability" in her life? Who is better off: the bhakta with emotional

> issues or the Mayavadi who has achieved brahman realization?

 

Sadhu...

[Guest guest]

ONe question I have pondered is:

 

Is it possible for something non devotional to aid ones devotion/

 

Of course we know that PRabhupada said about LSD, "it is material and how

can anything material help one's spiritual life.," But what I am getting at,

and continually refer to in my letters to you, is that sometimes we see a

devotee improve their bhakti by doing something not directly related to bhakti.

 

They could have gone, for example, on a vacation with their families and

gotten much closer or resolved some issues as a result of just playing

together,

etc. and then they come back more peaceful and thus in a better position to

serve Krsna, particularly if before the trip they were having difficulties.

 

As one devotee said: "sounds right, feels wrong. This is what I often feel

like when I read your resposnses.

 

No offence inteneded. I am just revealing my mind.

 

Your servant,

 

Mahatma das

[Guest guest]

Perceptions, and other visceral sensations, can be (and often are)

misleading. That's why a phenomenological evaluation of the effectiveness

of psychology is inadequate. According to Chanakya Pandita:

 

A brahmana sees through shastra,

A king sees through his spies,

A cow sees through her nose (for finding eatables)

And the common man sees through his eyes.

 

 

On 6/23/06, Mahat (AT) aol (DOT) com <Mahat (AT) aol (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> ONe question I have pondered is:

>

> Is it possible for something non devotional to aid ones devotion/

>

> Of course we know that PRabhupada said about LSD, "it is material and how

> can anything material help one's spiritual life.," But what I am getting

> at, and continually refer to in my letters to you, is that sometimes we see

> a devotee improve their bhakti by doing something not directly related to

> bhakti. They could have gone, for example, on a vacation with their

> families and gotten much closer or resolved some issues as a result of just

> playing together, etc. and then they come back more peaceful and thus in a

> better position to serve Krsna, particularly if before the trip they were

> having difficulties.

>

> As one devotee said: "sounds right, feels wrong. This is what I often feel

> like when I read your resposnses.

>

> No offence inteneded. I am just revealing my mind.

>

> Your servant,

>

> Mahatma das

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 6/23/2006 10:29:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

krishnakirti writes:

 

Perceptions, and other visceral sensations, can be (and often are)

misleading. That's why a phenomenological evaluation of the effectiveness of

psychology is inadequate. According to Chanakya Pandita

 

 

 

 

In a message dated 6/23/2006 10:29:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

krishnakirti writes:

 

Perceptions, and other visceral sensations, can be (and often are)

misleading. That's why a phenomenological evaluation of the effectiveness of

psychology is inadequate. According to Chanakya Pandita

 

 

I forgot to mention that some devotees have said that their experiences with

LSD opened them up in a way that they could be receptive to Eastern

philosophy and thus more easily be open to KC. Of course, we don't recommend

people

take LSD, but it seems to have helped some people come to KC.

 

Seeing through sastra and feelings are different things. I was with

Prabhupada when he said intuitition is the supersoul.

 

Ys, Md