Guest guest Posted June 23, 2006 Report Share Posted June 23, 2006 Dear Madana Mohan prabhu! Of course in the purport to 1.13.42 Srila Prabhupada speaks about enjoying a higher or equal FREEDOM and not about the general enjoyment. > Whatever we and other devotees have quoted so far to illustrate how a > living entity can enjoy more than the Lord still holds true. It's NOT difficult to accept that Srimati Radharani and Her direct expansions are equal to Krsna. ****** “...Although Radha and Krsna are one in Their identity, They separated Themselves eternally....” CC Adi, 1.6 ****** "O best of the brahmanas, Laksmi is the constant companion of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Visnu, and therefore she is called anapayini. She is the mother of all creation. As Lord Visnu is all-pervading, His spiritual potency, mother Laksmi, is also all-pervading. Lord Visnu has three principal potencies—internal, external and marginal. Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu has accepted para-sakti, the spiritual energy of the Lord, as being identical with the Lord. Thus she is also included in the independent visnu-tattva." SB 6.19.13, purport ****** However, in the quotes PRESENTED from CC Adi 4 ch and Madhya 8 ch I could find nothing about the living entity enjoying more than the Lord: Radha experiences 10 000 000 times more bliss than Krsna -> gopis (twigs, flowers and leaves of Radharani's creeper) experience 10 000 000 times more bliss when see Radha's happiness -> The mentioned sakhis are the direct expansions of Radharani ("The gopis are the personal friends of Srimati Radharani, and are equal to Her") -> the LIVING ENTITY is not equal to Srimati Radharani or Her expansions (my conclusion, is it crooked logic?). To the best of my knowledge the nitya-parishadas in the spiritual world such as asta-gopis, Nanda, Yasoda and other closest associates of the Lord belong to a different tattva than the jiva. Sakti-tattva. Please correct me if I'm wrong. The quotes that Lord Krsna depends in His enjoyment on His devotees do not explicitly indicate that the devotee (a living-entity-devotee) enjoys on a higher or equal level. >From the point of view sambandha-jnana the living entiyt is NEVER equal to the Lord or higher than Him in ANY respect. Just because that which is unlimitedly minute can't accomodate that which is unlimitedly great (the Lord's bliss). I'm looking for the self evident sastric statement not for the logical guess. I assume that from the point of view prayojana/rasa Sastra or our acaryas might have presented the inconceivable matters in a way as it had been suggested by your good self. Seems I have not read Srila Prabhupada's books enough and have not listened enough his lectures - but I can't remember (in what I listened and read) the statement that the jiva in the spiritual world can experience the higher bliss than the Lord. If you please could present some EXPLICIT statement to that effect it would immediately convince such samshayatma as me. Hare Krsna! Your servant Visista dasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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