Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Respected Gurujis, Kindly advice me as to which gem/stone and of what carat would benefit me as i have been adviced different stones by different astrologers.. I would be highly obliged if you could devote some precious time of yours to study my horoscope and give me the right advice. My details are as follows: > dob: 3 February 1969 > tob: 02.20 am (morning) > pob: Pune. Maharashtra.India. > long and lat: 73deg 51 min East > 18 deg 32 min north > regards, > Sachin DISCLAIMER: This message,including any attachments contains confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient(s), and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Bajaj Auto reserves the right to record, monitor, and inspect all email communications through its internal and external networks. Your messages shall be subject to such lawful supervision as Bajaj Auto deems necessary in order to protect its information, interests and reputation. Bajaj Auto prohibits and takes steps to prevent its information systems from being used to view, store or forward offensive or discriminatory material. If this message contains such material, please report it to abuse (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ Dear Sachin, Pearl (take out from sea, not cultured pearls) - 5 to 5.5 ratti in Silver in right hand ring finger. You are currently undergoing sadhesati, with saturn and mars tranisting your natal moon. Hence, your mind may be wandering with different types of thoughts and the you may be experiencing some bad luck. Wearing pearl will give some calmness to your mind and should make you more spiritual. I also advise to worship Saturn on Saturday evenings. Regards, Neeraj --- SACHIN S BHAMBURE <ssbhambure (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > Respected Gurujis, > Kindly advice me as to which gem/stone and of what > carat would benefit me as i have been adviced > different stones by different astrologers.. > I would be highly obliged if you could devote some > precious time of yours to study my horoscope and > give me the right advice. > > My details are as follows: > > dob: 3 February 1969 > > tob: 02.20 am (morning) > > pob: Pune. Maharashtra.India. > > long and lat: 73deg 51 min East > > 18 deg 32 min north > > > > regards, > > Sachin > > > > DISCLAIMER: > This message,including any attachments contains > confidential and privileged information for the sole > use of the intended recipient(s), and is protected > by law. If you are not the intended recipient, > please destroy all copies of the original message. > Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, > dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of > this email or any action taken in reliance on this > e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > Bajaj Auto reserves the right to record, monitor, > and inspect all email communications through its > internal and external networks. Your messages shall > be subject to such lawful supervision as Bajaj Auto > deems necessary in order to protect its information, > interests and reputation. Bajaj Auto prohibits and > takes steps to prevent its information systems from > being used to view, store or forward offensive or > discriminatory material. If this message contains > such material, please report it to > abuse (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Dear Neeraj and Sachin, The cultured pearls are not much different from the natural deep sea pearls. The difference is just that the cultured pearls are produced by oysters kept in bondages and artificially induced to produce pearls. It is same as getting eggs from hens in poultry farns rather than searching for eggs laid by wild fowl in forests. Both are real eggs and have the same composition. The deep sea pearls are very rare and there is no way that a layman can differentiate between a deep sea and a cultured pearl. Better to go for a cultured one only, because even when one pays a big amount for a so-called deep sea pearl, one is more likely to end up with a cultured pearl in hand. But, desist from buying the chinese pearls which have flooded the markets nowadays, which are cheap but are of very low quality. Sachin can also wear a yellow sapphire in gold on index finger of either hand. The pearl will give better results on little finger than on ring finger. Regards, Ashutosh - Neeraj Gupta valist Wednesday, 21 June, 2006 12:54 Re: please advice ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ Dear Sachin, Pearl (take out from sea, not cultured pearls) - 5 to 5.5 ratti in Silver in right hand ring finger. You are currently undergoing sadhesati, with saturn and mars tranisting your natal moon. Hence, your mind may be wandering with different types of thoughts and the you may be experiencing some bad luck. Wearing pearl will give some calmness to your mind and should make you more spiritual. I also advise to worship Saturn on Saturday evenings. Regards, Neeraj --- SACHIN S BHAMBURE <ssbhambure (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > Respected Gurujis, > Kindly advice me as to which gem/stone and of what > carat would benefit me as i have been adviced > different stones by different astrologers.. > I would be highly obliged if you could devote some > precious time of yours to study my horoscope and > give me the right advice. > > My details are as follows: > > dob: 3 February 1969 > > tob: 02.20 am (morning) > > pob: Pune. Maharashtra.India. > > long and lat: 73deg 51 min East > > 18 deg 32 min north > > > > regards, > > Sachin > > > > DISCLAIMER: > This message,including any attachments contains > confidential and privileged information for the sole > use of the intended recipient(s), and is protected > by law. If you are not the intended recipient, > please destroy all copies of the original message. > Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, > dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of > this email or any action taken in reliance on this > e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > Bajaj Auto reserves the right to record, monitor, > and inspect all email communications through its > internal and external networks. Your messages shall > be subject to such lawful supervision as Bajaj Auto > deems necessary in order to protect its information, > interests and reputation. Bajaj Auto prohibits and > takes steps to prevent its information systems from > being used to view, store or forward offensive or > discriminatory material. If this message contains > such material, please report it to > abuse (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ Dear Ashutosh, *Personally* I do not recommend any gemstone to be worn in Index finger as this is what I have learnt from Shri Sanjay Rath, Narshimha Ji, Sarbani Sarkar, and found that yellow sapphire gives better results when worn in ring finger. Again, this is my personal thinking and research. You are absolutely correct, the pearl is worn in ring finger. In this case, moon is placed in its own sign in 9th house (ruling dharma) and hence this was the reason, I recommended wearing pearl in ring finger instead of little finger. Earlier I also used to assign fingers for gemstones like Jupiter - index, emerald, pearl - little finger, blue sapphire - middle finger, Ruby, Red Coral - ring finger. But now I choose the finger for wearing ring as per the placements of planets in houses. Again I would like to say that this what I have learnt after studying some cases and my small research and the opinions of others may vary. VRA has some very good information on it specially case studies and I have found that it gives better results. I have seen people wearing cultured pearls, but till date I have not seen any effect (remarkable effect) whether positive or negative and hence I always advise to wear sea pearl. Regards, Neeraj --- astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote: > Dear Neeraj and Sachin, > > The cultured > pearls are not much different from the natural deep > sea pearls. The difference is just that the cultured > pearls are produced by oysters kept in bondages and > artificially induced to produce pearls. > > It is same as getting eggs from hens in > poultry farns rather than searching for eggs laid by > wild fowl in forests. Both are real eggs and have > the same composition. > > The deep sea pearls are very rare and there > is no way that a layman can differentiate between a > deep sea and a cultured pearl. > > Better to go for a cultured one only, > because even when one pays a big amount for a > so-called deep sea pearl, one is more likely to end > up with a cultured pearl in hand. > > But, desist from buying the chinese pearls > which have flooded the markets nowadays, which are > cheap but are of very low quality. > > Sachin can also wear a yellow sapphire in > gold on index finger of either hand. The pearl will > give better results on little finger than on ring > finger. > > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > > > > > > - > Neeraj Gupta > valist > Wednesday, 21 June, 2006 12:54 > Re: please advice > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > Dear Sachin, > > Pearl (take out from sea, not cultured pearls) - 5 > to > 5.5 ratti in Silver in right hand ring finger. > > You are currently undergoing sadhesati, with > saturn > and mars tranisting your natal moon. Hence, your > mind > may be wandering with different types of thoughts > and > the you may be experiencing some bad luck. > > Wearing pearl will give some calmness to your mind > and > should make you more spiritual. I also advise to > worship Saturn on Saturday evenings. > > Regards, > > Neeraj > > --- SACHIN S BHAMBURE <ssbhambure (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in> > wrote: > > > > > > > Respected Gurujis, > > Kindly advice me as to which gem/stone and of > what > > carat would benefit me as i have been adviced > > different stones by different astrologers.. > > I would be highly obliged if you could devote > some > > precious time of yours to study my horoscope and > > give me the right advice. > > > > My details are as follows: > > > dob: 3 February 1969 > > > tob: 02.20 am (morning) > > > pob: Pune. Maharashtra.India. > > > long and lat: 73deg 51 min East > > > 18 deg 32 min north > > > > > > > regards, > > > Sachin > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: > > This message,including any attachments contains > > confidential and privileged information for the > sole > > use of the intended recipient(s), and is > protected > > by law. If you are not the intended recipient, > > please destroy all copies of the original > message. > > Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, > > dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying > of > > this email or any action taken in reliance on > this > > e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be > unlawful. > > Bajaj Auto reserves the right to record, > monitor, > > and inspect all email communications through its > > internal and external networks. Your messages > shall > > be subject to such lawful supervision as Bajaj > Auto > > deems necessary in order to protect its > information, > > interests and reputation. Bajaj Auto prohibits > and > > takes steps to prevent its information systems > from > > being used to view, store or forward offensive > or > > discriminatory material. If this message > contains > > such material, please report it to > > abuse (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in. > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Dear Sir, Please validate the following. 1. 11-3-2004 to 19-7-2004 was a good period.good name, professionally successful etc. 2.24-4-2004 to 15-5-2004 was a little uncomfortable for professional matters. 3.Problems in married life etc. Regards, Jagannathan. On 6/21/06, SACHIN S BHAMBURE <ssbhambure (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > Respected Gurujis, > Kindly advice me as to which gem/stone and of what carat would benefit me > as i have been adviced different stones by different astrologers.. > I would be highly obliged if you could devote some precious time of yours > to study my horoscope and give me the right advice. > > My details are as follows: > > dob: 3 February 1969 > > tob: 02.20 am (morning) > > pob: Pune. Maharashtra.India. > > long and lat: 73deg 51 min East > > 18 deg 32 min north > > > regards, > > Sachin > > DISCLAIMER: > This message,including any attachments contains confidential and > privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient(s), and is > protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all > copies of the original message. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, > dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action > taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. > > Bajaj Auto reserves the right to record, monitor, and inspect all email > communications through its internal and external networks. Your messages > shall be subject to such lawful supervision as Bajaj Auto deems necessary in > order to protect its information, interests and reputation. Bajaj Auto > prohibits and takes steps to prevent its information systems from being used > to view, store or forward offensive or discriminatory material. If this > message contains such material, please report it to abuse (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in<abuse%40bajajauto.co.in> > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 Dear Neeraj, In this group and cyberspace, everyone has a drum which one is beating one's own tune. In this cacophony, the true principles of jyotish have got lost somewhere. Thats all I have to say. Regards, Ashutosh - Neeraj Gupta valist Wednesday, 21 June, 2006 15:06 Re: please advice ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ Dear Ashutosh, *Personally* I do not recommend any gemstone to be worn in Index finger as this is what I have learnt from Shri Sanjay Rath, Narshimha Ji, Sarbani Sarkar, and found that yellow sapphire gives better results when worn in ring finger. Again, this is my personal thinking and research. You are absolutely correct, the pearl is worn in ring finger. In this case, moon is placed in its own sign in 9th house (ruling dharma) and hence this was the reason, I recommended wearing pearl in ring finger instead of little finger. Earlier I also used to assign fingers for gemstones like Jupiter - index, emerald, pearl - little finger, blue sapphire - middle finger, Ruby, Red Coral - ring finger. But now I choose the finger for wearing ring as per the placements of planets in houses. Again I would like to say that this what I have learnt after studying some cases and my small research and the opinions of others may vary. VRA has some very good information on it specially case studies and I have found that it gives better results. I have seen people wearing cultured pearls, but till date I have not seen any effect (remarkable effect) whether positive or negative and hence I always advise to wear sea pearl. Regards, Neeraj --- astrologerashutosh <astrologerashutosh (AT) (DOT) fr> wrote: > Dear Neeraj and Sachin, > > The cultured > pearls are not much different from the natural deep > sea pearls. The difference is just that the cultured > pearls are produced by oysters kept in bondages and > artificially induced to produce pearls. > > It is same as getting eggs from hens in > poultry farns rather than searching for eggs laid by > wild fowl in forests. Both are real eggs and have > the same composition. > > The deep sea pearls are very rare and there > is no way that a layman can differentiate between a > deep sea and a cultured pearl. > > Better to go for a cultured one only, > because even when one pays a big amount for a > so-called deep sea pearl, one is more likely to end > up with a cultured pearl in hand. > > But, desist from buying the chinese pearls > which have flooded the markets nowadays, which are > cheap but are of very low quality. > > Sachin can also wear a yellow sapphire in > gold on index finger of either hand. The pearl will > give better results on little finger than on ring > finger. > > > Regards, > > Ashutosh > > > > > > > - > Neeraj Gupta > valist > Wednesday, 21 June, 2006 12:54 > Re: please advice > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ > > Dear Sachin, > > Pearl (take out from sea, not cultured pearls) - 5 > to > 5.5 ratti in Silver in right hand ring finger. > > You are currently undergoing sadhesati, with > saturn > and mars tranisting your natal moon. Hence, your > mind > may be wandering with different types of thoughts > and > the you may be experiencing some bad luck. > > Wearing pearl will give some calmness to your mind > and > should make you more spiritual. I also advise to > worship Saturn on Saturday evenings. > > Regards, > > Neeraj > > --- SACHIN S BHAMBURE <ssbhambure (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in> > wrote: > > > > > > > Respected Gurujis, > > Kindly advice me as to which gem/stone and of > what > > carat would benefit me as i have been adviced > > different stones by different astrologers.. > > I would be highly obliged if you could devote > some > > precious time of yours to study my horoscope and > > give me the right advice. > > > > My details are as follows: > > > dob: 3 February 1969 > > > tob: 02.20 am (morning) > > > pob: Pune. Maharashtra.India. > > > long and lat: 73deg 51 min East > > > 18 deg 32 min north > > > > > > > regards, > > > Sachin > > > > > > > > DISCLAIMER: > > This message,including any attachments contains > > confidential and privileged information for the > sole > > use of the intended recipient(s), and is > protected > > by law. If you are not the intended recipient, > > please destroy all copies of the original > message. > > Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, > > dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying > of > > this email or any action taken in reliance on > this > > e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be > unlawful. > > Bajaj Auto reserves the right to record, > monitor, > > and inspect all email communications through its > > internal and external networks. Your messages > shall > > be subject to such lawful supervision as Bajaj > Auto > > deems necessary in order to protect its > information, > > interests and reputation. Bajaj Auto prohibits > and > > takes steps to prevent its information systems > from > > being used to view, store or forward offensive > or > > discriminatory material. If this message > contains > > such material, please report it to > > abuse (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in. > > > > > > Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted June 21, 2006 Report Share Posted June 21, 2006 ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~ Dear Jagannathan, The problems you are facing is due to Sadhesati of Saturn. Once again my recommendation is same. Wear pearl in right hand ring finger in silver. Also, I would like to tell you that most of the astrologers will recommend wearing it in little finger. But pearl in ring finger will make you more spiritual. You need to perform remedies of Saturn in order to lessen the effects of Sadhesati (It is not possible to completely ward it off). 1. To take care of your marital problems, keep a fast on Sundays as UL is placed in Leo. 2. 12th from Karkamasa is moon that too in krishna pratipada, so your Ishta devta is Shri Kali and worshipping kali will help you. 3. Donate black cloth, black urad daal (pulse), mustard oil, Black til etc. on saturdays. Buy it on friday and rotate it 7 times in clock wise direction over your head and donate in any shani temple. Do it atleast 7 times, and you will begun to notice the results. 4. After sunset or in the morning in saturday, light a lamp of mustard oil in front of shani dev or peepal tree. 5. Best remedy for sadhesati is to recite rudram chamakam 11 times daily in the morning with your face facing towards east. Believe me, it will just take 15 minutes. 6. I also recommend you to chant Maha mritunjay mantra daily. least is 11 times. Once comfortable, you may increase the chantig to 21, 31, 51, 108 or any multiples of 108 times. Regards, Neeraj --- Jagannathan Kapisthalam <jagannathankr > wrote: > Dear Sir, > Please validate the following. > 1. 11-3-2004 to 19-7-2004 was a good period.good > name, professionally > successful etc. > 2.24-4-2004 to 15-5-2004 was a little uncomfortable > for professional > matters. > 3.Problems in married life etc. > Regards, > Jagannathan. > > > > On 6/21/06, SACHIN S BHAMBURE > <ssbhambure (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in> wrote: > > > > > > > > Respected Gurujis, > > Kindly advice me as to which gem/stone and of what > carat would benefit me > > as i have been adviced different stones by > different astrologers.. > > I would be highly obliged if you could devote some > precious time of yours > > to study my horoscope and give me the right > advice. > > > > My details are as follows: > > > dob: 3 February 1969 > > > tob: 02.20 am (morning) > > > pob: Pune. Maharashtra.India. > > > long and lat: 73deg 51 min East > > > 18 deg 32 min north > > > > > regards, > > > Sachin > > > > DISCLAIMER: > > This message,including any attachments contains > confidential and > > privileged information for the sole use of the > intended recipient(s), and is > > protected by law. If you are not the intended > recipient, please destroy all > > copies of the original message. Any unauthorized > review, use, disclosure, > > dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of > this email or any action > > taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly > prohibited and may be unlawful. > > > > Bajaj Auto reserves the right to record, monitor, > and inspect all email > > communications through its internal and external > networks. Your messages > > shall be subject to such lawful supervision as > Bajaj Auto deems necessary in > > order to protect its information, interests and > reputation. Bajaj Auto > > prohibits and takes steps to prevent its > information systems from being used > > to view, store or forward offensive or > discriminatory material. If this > > message contains such material, please report it > to abuse (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in<abuse%40bajajauto.co.in> > > . > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 Dear Sir The periods mentioned are correct. Problems were regarding to health of spouse. Regards, Sachin valist [valist]On Behalf Of Jagannathan Kapisthalam Wednesday, June 21, 2006 3:43 PM valist Re: please advice Dear Sir, Please validate the following. 1. 11-3-2004 to 19-7-2004 was a good period.good name, professionally successful etc. 2.24-4-2004 to 15-5-2004 was a little uncomfortable for professional matters. 3.Problems in married life etc. Regards, Jagannathan. On 6/21/06, SACHIN S BHAMBURE < ssbhambure (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in <ssbhambure (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in> > wrote: Respected Gurujis, Kindly advice me as to which gem/stone and of what carat would benefit me as i have been adviced different stones by different astrologers.. I would be highly obliged if you could devote some precious time of yours to study my horoscope and give me the right advice. My details are as follows: > dob: 3 February 1969 > tob: 02.20 am (morning) > pob: Pune. Maharashtra.India. > long and lat: 73deg 51 min East > 18 deg 32 min north > regards, > Sachin DISCLAIMER: This message,including any attachments contains confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient(s), and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Bajaj Auto reserves the right to record, monitor, and inspect all email communications through its internal and external networks. Your messages shall be subject to such lawful supervision as Bajaj Auto deems necessary in order to protect its information, interests and reputation. Bajaj Auto prohibits and takes steps to prevent its information systems from being used to view, store or forward offensive or discriminatory material. If this message contains such material, please report it to abuse (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in <abuse%40bajajauto.co.in> . DISCLAIMER: This message,including any attachments contains confidential and privileged information for the sole use of the intended recipient(s), and is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all copies of the original message. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure, dissemination, forwarding, printing or copying of this email or any action taken in reliance on this e-mail is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. Bajaj Auto reserves the right to record, monitor, and inspect all email communications through its internal and external networks. Your messages shall be subject to such lawful supervision as Bajaj Auto deems necessary in order to protect its information, interests and reputation. Bajaj Auto prohibits and takes steps to prevent its information systems from being used to view, store or forward offensive or discriminatory material. If this message contains such material, please report it to abuse (AT) bajajauto (DOT) co.in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 How to feel the different energies in fingers of hand To perform and understand the following yogic actions one has to be sensitive enough to judge and analyse one's own thoughts and feelings at any given point of time. Take a sentence as a test material. Example : "I know what you have been doing". Repeat the sentence a number of times while keeping your palms by the side of your body and fingers relaxed. T-Then, touch the index finger of right hand on the open left palm and repeat the above test sentence seven times, slowly. Feel the impact of each sentence and the feelings arising with it inside you. Then, replace the index finger with middle finger and repeat the sentence seven times, again observing your change of subtle feelings with each sentence. Repeat the same with each finger, also the thumb. You will notice that even when using same words in the same sentence and in same tone, the feelings arising are different with each different finger. Index finger: Authority, what has to be done should be done, emotionless and plain, but with no damage to oneself (jupiter) Middle finger: Negative thoughts, intentions to harm or deceive, to gain something for oneself even at the cost of others. (saturn & Rahu) Ring finger: Unbiased, balanced, desiring and seeking the truth, justice and spirtual reasons behind evertythin. More desires to use own intuitive powers to know more. (sun. mars & ketu). Little finger: The logic rules, ifs and whys, curiosity jumps suddenly, imagination starts flowing, desires to do some probings and manipulations to get to the truth. Different possibilities being explored, imagining all angles and options. (mercury & moon) Thumb: Total and pure emotions but centered around self and near ones. (venus) I repeat, the above practice may not be understood by all. But, those with somewhat spiritual inclinations and those who regularily analyse themselves, will easily feel it. The resulting feelings may vary slightly from person to person, but the differences will be very clear. These energy flows are some of the basis behind attributing different fingers and mounts to different planets in palmistry. When wearing gems on fingers, these principles of palmistry cannot be ignored. The energies in fingers are singled out, but these become closer and composite when they pass through limbs and neck regions. This is a reason why pendants and arm-bands with gemstones work for wearers. But, the best effect off gems are received when they are worn on correct fingers corresponding with the planets ruling that finger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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