Ishta Devta Doubt - VRA (2nd from AK) --More problem!

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Hi Dhruva,

 

I believe that if it is marked in your chart, then you

do not even need a chart to find the Ishta Devta. You

will have a intrinsic feeling to pray for that lord.

 

For example, when I was a child I used to worship

Vishnu (I do not know the reason behind it) and once

in my dream I saw the Lord Narayana very clearly. It

was so great, that I can even remember it today. It

seemed that he is too large and having everything

shankha, chakra, Gada and lot many things. Sorry to

say, but I cannot describe the Lord Narayana that I

saw in my dream, in words. Just can't forget that.

 

After reading VRA, I want to know the principle behind

the 2nd from AK as how does it work. I am not able to

grab this point.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj

 

 

 

--- Dhruva2 <todhruva (AT) mail (DOT) ru> wrote:

 

> Hare Krishna!!

> I think that more problem in defining Ishta devata

> is using correct Aynamsa

> If you use other aynamsa than Lahiry( Raman or KP)

> it can lead to changing of the sing of AK in Navamsa

> so the lord of 12 -th will be changed

> and sing of 12-th house also

> You can't define true Ishta Devata if you use wrong

> aynamsa

> That is the real tragedy for some horoscopes

>

> It's Kali -Yoga So Don't be so risky . Simply

> worship to Lord Chaitanya it's our Yuga -Dharma for

> all people .

>

>

> -

> Neeraj Gupta

> sohamsa

> Cc: vedic astrology

> Monday, June 19, 2006 19:56

> [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Doubt - VRA

> (2nd from AK)

>

>

> ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

>

> Dear All,

>

> I have on doubt in finding Ishta Devta. As per

> what I

> have learnt till now, it is seen from strongest

> planet

> in 12th from AK. If none is there, then we

> associate

> the lord of the 12th sign from AK as Diety.

>

> In VRA, it is stated that

>

> If there is none in 12th house, then planetary

> aspects

> on the second house should be determine and we

> should

> consider the sign aspects only.

>

> Kindly clarify the above, as I am not getting this

> point. If possible, please explain using any chart

> in

> which we determine the Ishta Devta from 2nd from

> AK.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neeraj

>

>

>

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Dear All ,

 

as per my understanding the Rahu Kaal is to be calculated from the time of the local sunrise . Thus in terms of standard time it will be different at different places . Is my understanding correct ?

 

I am asking this question as some newspapers like Hindu etc carry the announcement of Rahu Kaal without the indication of location . If the newspaper gets published from three places it will have three different Rahu Kaals for the three different locations . Please let me know .

 

Thanks in advance.

Regards ,

 

Anand

 

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Neeraj Gupta

vedic astrology

Wednesday, June 21, 2006 11:29 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Doubt - VRA (2nd from AK) --More problem!

 

 

Hi Dhruva,

 

I believe that if it is marked in your chart, then you

do not even need a chart to find the Ishta Devta. You

will have a intrinsic feeling to pray for that lord.

 

For example, when I was a child I used to worship

Vishnu (I do not know the reason behind it) and once

in my dream I saw the Lord Narayana very clearly. It

was so great, that I can even remember it today. It

seemed that he is too large and having everything

shankha, chakra, Gada and lot many things. Sorry to

say, but I cannot describe the Lord Narayana that I

saw in my dream, in words. Just can't forget that.

 

After reading VRA, I want to know the principle behind

the 2nd from AK as how does it work. I am not able to

grab this point.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj

 

--- Dhruva2 <todhruva (AT) mail (DOT) ru> wrote:

 

> Hare Krishna!!

> I think that more problem in defining Ishta devata

> is using correct Aynamsa

> If you use other aynamsa than Lahiry( Raman or KP)

> it can lead to changing of the sing of AK in Navamsa

> so the lord of 12 -th will be changed

> and sing of 12-th house also

> You can't define true Ishta Devata if you use wrong

> aynamsa

> That is the real tragedy for some horoscopes

>

> It's Kali -Yoga So Don't be so risky . Simply

> worship to Lord Chaitanya it's our Yuga -Dharma for

> all people .

>

>

> -

> Neeraj Gupta

> sohamsa

> Cc: vedic astrology

> Monday, June 19, 2006 19:56

> [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Doubt - VRA

> (2nd from AK)

>

>

> ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

>

> Dear All,

>

> I have on doubt in finding Ishta Devta. As per

> what I

> have learnt till now, it is seen from strongest

> planet

> in 12th from AK. If none is there, then we

> associate

> the lord of the 12th sign from AK as Diety.

>

> In VRA, it is stated that

>

> If there is none in 12th house, then planetary

> aspects

> on the second house should be determine and we

> should

> consider the sign aspects only.

>

> Kindly clarify the above, as I am not getting this

> point. If possible, please explain using any chart

> in

> which we determine the Ishta Devta from 2nd from

> AK.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neeraj

>

>

>

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I found some information about Rahu Kalam here . Do have a look

 

http://www.geocities.com/guruforum/rahukala1.htm

 

Regards ,

 

Anand Rasool

 

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Anand

vedic astrology

Wednesday, June 21, 2006 1:52 PM

[vedic astrology] Rahu kaal

 

 

Dear All ,

 

as per my understanding the Rahu Kaal is to be calculated from the time of the local sunrise . Thus in terms of standard time it will be different at different places . Is my understanding correct ?

 

I am asking this question as some newspapers like Hindu etc carry the announcement of Rahu Kaal without the indication of location . If the newspaper gets published from three places it will have three different Rahu Kaals for the three different locations . Please let me know .

 

Thanks in advance.

Regards ,

 

Anand

 

A. K. Ghurye

Mobile : 9820 489 416 Phone : 2685 5496 email : hmm_aha

 

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Neeraj Gupta

vedic astrology

Wednesday, June 21, 2006 11:29 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Doubt - VRA (2nd from AK) --More problem!

 

Hi Dhruva,

 

I believe that if it is marked in your chart, then you

do not even need a chart to find the Ishta Devta. You

will have a intrinsic feeling to pray for that lord.

 

For example, when I was a child I used to worship

Vishnu (I do not know the reason behind it) and once

in my dream I saw the Lord Narayana very clearly. It

was so great, that I can even remember it today. It

seemed that he is too large and having everything

shankha, chakra, Gada and lot many things. Sorry to

say, but I cannot describe the Lord Narayana that I

saw in my dream, in words. Just can't forget that.

 

After reading VRA, I want to know the principle behind

the 2nd from AK as how does it work. I am not able to

grab this point.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj

 

--- Dhruva2 <todhruva (AT) mail (DOT) ru> wrote:

 

> Hare Krishna!!

> I think that more problem in defining Ishta devata

> is using correct Aynamsa

> If you use other aynamsa than Lahiry( Raman or KP)

> it can lead to changing of the sing of AK in Navamsa

> so the lord of 12 -th will be changed

> and sing of 12-th house also

> You can't define true Ishta Devata if you use wrong

> aynamsa

> That is the real tragedy for some horoscopes

>

> It's Kali -Yoga So Don't be so risky . Simply

> worship to Lord Chaitanya it's our Yuga -Dharma for

> all people .

>

>

> -

> Neeraj Gupta

> sohamsa

> Cc: vedic astrology

> Monday, June 19, 2006 19:56

> [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Doubt - VRA

> (2nd from AK)

>

>

> ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

>

> Dear All,

>

> I have on doubt in finding Ishta Devta. As per

> what I

> have learnt till now, it is seen from strongest

> planet

> in 12th from AK. If none is there, then we

> associate

> the lord of the 12th sign from AK as Diety.

>

> In VRA, it is stated that

>

> If there is none in 12th house, then planetary

> aspects

> on the second house should be determine and we

> should

> consider the sign aspects only.

>

> Kindly clarify the above, as I am not getting this

> point. If possible, please explain using any chart

> in

> which we determine the Ishta Devta from 2nd from

> AK.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neeraj

>

>

>

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> protection around

>

>

>

>

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> removed]

>

>

>

>

>

 

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|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Anand,

Most often In newspapers the Sunrise is assumed as 6:00AM and day duration

as 12 Hours, i.e SunSet 6:00PM.

You can note the actual sunrise in your location in the morning and the

add/Subtract the difference to Newspaper given time.

For example

 

June 21, 2006

Time: 13:05:45

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 77 E 34' 00", 8 N 05' 00"

Kanyakumari, India

 

Sunrise: 6:07:17

Sunset: 18:35:38

 

the Actual Sunrise is at 6:07, So the Difference "Additional 7 minutes" so

add about 7 Minutes (approximate) to Newpaper time. Acutually, The Day

duration in Kanyakumari is not 12: Hours but it's 12 hours and 28 Minutes,

So there will be additional 28/8 about 3.5 Minutes more in Each Kaala

duration also. So the error is not much.

 

 

For same date look at Jammu which is very much north of India,

 

June 21, 2006

Time: 13:05:45

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 74 E 52' 00", 32 N 44' 00"

Jammu, India

Sunrise: 5:27:28

Sunset: 19:37:03

 

 

The Actual sunrise is 5:27 for that given date, so the difference is "Less

than 33 Minutes" from assumed sunrise of 6:00AM. So subtract about 33 Min

from the newspaper given Kaala start time to get your local Start time.

Also Note that Day duration is (19:37)-(5:27) = 14:10 i.e 14 Hours and 10

Mins!, So the difference is about 2hrs10mins!. So Each kaala length will be

longer by 16.25 Mins! which is significant.

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

 

 

 

On 6/21/06, Anand <anand.ghurye > wrote:

>

> Dear All ,

>

> as per my understanding the Rahu Kaal is to be calculated from the time of

> the local sunrise . Thus in terms of standard time it will be different at

> different places . Is my understanding correct ?

>

> I am asking this question as some newspapers like Hindu etc carry the

> announcement of Rahu Kaal without the indication of location . If the

> newspaper gets published from three places it will have three different Rahu

> Kaals for the three different locations . Please let me know .

>

> Thanks in advance.

> Regards ,

>

> Anand

>

> A. K. Ghurye

> Mobile : 9820 489 416 Phone : 2685 5496 email : hmm_aha

>

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> Neeraj Gupta

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, June 21, 2006 11:29 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Doubt - VRA (2nd from AK)

> --More problem!

>

>

> Hi Dhruva,

>

> I believe that if it is marked in your chart, then you

> do not even need a chart to find the Ishta Devta. You

> will have a intrinsic feeling to pray for that lord.

>

> For example, when I was a child I used to worship

> Vishnu (I do not know the reason behind it) and once

> in my dream I saw the Lord Narayana very clearly. It

> was so great, that I can even remember it today. It

> seemed that he is too large and having everything

> shankha, chakra, Gada and lot many things. Sorry to

> say, but I cannot describe the Lord Narayana that I

> saw in my dream, in words. Just can't forget that.

>

> After reading VRA, I want to know the principle behind

> the 2nd from AK as how does it work. I am not able to

> grab this point.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neeraj

>

> --- Dhruva2 <todhruva (AT) mail (DOT) ru> wrote:

>

> > Hare Krishna!!

> > I think that more problem in defining Ishta devata

> > is using correct Aynamsa

> > If you use other aynamsa than Lahiry( Raman or KP)

> > it can lead to changing of the sing of AK in Navamsa

> > so the lord of 12 -th will be changed

> > and sing of 12-th house also

> > You can't define true Ishta Devata if you use wrong

> > aynamsa

> > That is the real tragedy for some horoscopes

> >

> > It's Kali -Yoga So Don't be so risky . Simply

> > worship to Lord Chaitanya it's our Yuga -Dharma for

> > all people .

> >

> >

> > -

> > Neeraj Gupta

> > sohamsa

> > Cc: vedic astrology

> > Monday, June 19, 2006 19:56

> > [vedic astrology] Ishta Devta Doubt - VRA

> > (2nd from AK)

> >

> >

> > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

> >

> > Dear All,

> >

> > I have on doubt in finding Ishta Devta. As per

> > what I

> > have learnt till now, it is seen from strongest

> > planet

> > in 12th from AK. If none is there, then we

> > associate

> > the lord of the 12th sign from AK as Diety.

> >

> > In VRA, it is stated that

> >

> > If there is none in 12th house, then planetary

> > aspects

> > on the second house should be determine and we

> > should

> > consider the sign aspects only.

> >

> > Kindly clarify the above, as I am not getting this

> > point. If possible, please explain using any chart

> > in

> > which we determine the Ishta Devta from 2nd from

> > AK.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj

> >

> >

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Dear Sanjay ,

 

Thanks a lot for your mail.

 

Yes . I get the point that the Rahu kaal given by the newspapers is wrong . Just yesterday on 21st , the Rahu kaal would be as much as 37 minutes different in Mumbai . Still people all over swear by it .

 

Also I will like to know what are the other seven divisions of time denoted as . Thanks in advance.

 

 

Rahu Kaal is very popular with the South Indians, Chaudhadia with the Gujaratis why this difference ? Any comments , ideas welcome .

 

 

 

Regards ,

 

Anand

 

A. K. Ghurye

Mobile : 9820 489 416 Phone : 2685 5496 email : hmm_aha

 

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Sanjay Prabhakaran

vedic astrology

Wednesday, June 21, 2006 10:50 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Rahu kaal

 

 

|| Om Gurave Namah ||

Dear Anand,

Most often In newspapers the Sunrise is assumed as 6:00AM and day duration

as 12 Hours, i.e SunSet 6:00PM.

You can note the actual sunrise in your location in the morning and the

add/Subtract the difference to Newspaper given time.

For example

 

June 21, 2006

Time: 13:05:45

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 77 E 34' 00", 8 N 05' 00"

Kanyakumari, India

 

Sunrise: 6:07:17

Sunset: 18:35:38

 

the Actual Sunrise is at 6:07, So the Difference "Additional 7 minutes" so

add about 7 Minutes (approximate) to Newpaper time. Acutually, The Day

duration in Kanyakumari is not 12: Hours but it's 12 hours and 28 Minutes,

So there will be additional 28/8 about 3.5 Minutes more in Each Kaala

duration also. So the error is not much.

 

For same date look at Jammu which is very much north of India,

 

June 21, 2006

Time: 13:05:45

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 74 E 52' 00", 32 N 44' 00"

Jammu, India

Sunrise: 5:27:28

Sunset: 19:37:03

 

The Actual sunrise is 5:27 for that given date, so the difference is "Less

than 33 Minutes" from assumed sunrise of 6:00AM. So subtract about 33 Min

from the newspaper given Kaala start time to get your local Start time.

Also Note that Day duration is (19:37)-(5:27) = 14:10 i.e 14 Hours and 10

Mins!, So the difference is about 2hrs10mins!. So Each kaala length will be

longer by 16.25 Mins! which is significant.

 

Warm Regards

Sanjay P

 

On 6/21/06, Anand <anand.ghurye > wrote:

>

> Dear All ,

>

> as per my understanding the Rahu Kaal is to be calculated from the time of

> the local sunrise . Thus in terms of standard time it will be different at

> different places . Is my understanding correct ?

>

> I am asking this question as some newspapers like Hindu etc carry the

> announcement of Rahu Kaal without the indication of location . If the

> newspaper gets published from three places it will have three different Rahu

> Kaals for the three different locations . Please let me know .

>

> Thanks in advance.

> Regards ,

>

> Anand

>

> A. K. Ghurye

> Mobile : 9820 489 416 Phone : 2685 5496 email : hmm_aha

>

>

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> email : hmm_aha

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