Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 > by the way, what is ad-hominem attack? If you attack the person in stead of addressing the subject ys, jdd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2006 Report Share Posted June 25, 2006 In a message dated 6/25/2006 7:10:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Jahnu (AT) pamho (DOT) net writes: You have to accept that some devotees need modern therapy to be able to practice devotional service, otherwise you are just a fanatic or living in a dream world.' I noted that some devotees who were not following strictly again took up strict sadhana after attending a seminar, which is not the same as saying everyone needs it. We were arguing with the point that was being made that such things cannot help them. And I presented the point that I don't think the argument is whether or not they are doing better now, but whether or not they needed to go that route to do better. I didn't believe, as you did, that it was useful to invalidate their experience. I see them chanting, at mangala aroti, doing service in a way they haven't done for years. Therefore I didn't think it was correct to say that what they did didn't help them. But I also wasn't advocating therapy in general. YOur servant, Mahatma das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2006 Report Share Posted June 26, 2006 > I noted that some devotees who were not following strictly again took up > strict sadhana after attending a seminar, which is not the same as saying > everyone needs it. We were arguing with the point that was being made that > such > things cannot help them. And I presented the point that I don't think the > argument is whether or not they are doing better now, but whether or not > they needed to go that route to do better. I didn't believe, as you did, > that it was > useful to invalidate their experience. I see them chanting, at mangala > aroti, doing service in a way they haven't done for years. Therefore I > didn't think it was correct to say that what they did didn't help them. > But I also wasn't advocating therapy in general. Ok. I accept that. Good for them, and good for you, too. Personally I haven't seen anyone come out DGs courses and become a better devotee. Quite to the contrary. Probably it was different when he was heading the CPO and in good standing and talked to devotees one on one. In his present condition he is not fit to have ANYTHING to do with devotees. ys, jdd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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