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In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it is

present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other planets

have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 degrees

in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and hence I

get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions. Any

ideas?

Thanks

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Dear Milind,

 

Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding mantras?

Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get fixed

(assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

 

Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

individuals do not get duped easily, at least not materialistically,

but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their lifeplan

but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter would

reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

 

The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes offers

the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not always

need a mantra or gemstone etc.

 

Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your data, I

could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so and

someone will pick up the thread.

 

It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box! In

the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles and

bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

window of our mind!

 

RR

 

 

 

 

, "padhyemilind2002"

<padhyemilind2002 wrote:

>

> Hello

> In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it is

> present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

> enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other planets

> have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 degrees

> in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and hence

I

> get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions. Any

> ideas?

> Thanks

>

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hi dear vijaya,

thanks for ur reply.

U do just call me ajay, and not sir.

Secondly, for rahu, the remedial measure is to

do chant mahamrutunjay japa daily for 11 times, and do

make dana to poorer, beggers at the temple of

shani.

 

With best wishes,

 

ajay

--- vijayamalur <vijayamalur (AT) airtelbroadband (DOT) in>

wrote:

 

> Dear sir

>

> I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being

> in lagna. Infact i also have rahu in lagna

> (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

>

> Can you analyse my horoscope pls

>

> vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm

> (female)

>

> I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu

> in lagna as The latter would

> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the

> nativity ends up losing a

> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of

> relatives and loved ones. As it is i dont want to

> pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my family

> sir

>

> I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come

> or reduce the ill effect of it

>

> eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

>

> best regards

>

> vijaya

>

>

>

> -

> crystal pages

>

> Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

>

> Dear Milind,

>

> Please describe what problems this rahu of yours

> is creating?

> Please describe for my benefit what your belief is

> regarding mantras?

> Were you planning to just start chanting it and

> rahu would get fixed

> (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

>

> Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always

> -- it makes the native

> very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of

> this is that the

> individuals do not get duped easily, at least not

> materialistically,

> but over the years they tend to lose things that

> were in their lifeplan

> but they were too busy looking over their

> shoulders. The latter would

> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the

> nativity ends up losing a

> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of

> relatives and loved ones.

>

> The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The

> characteristics of

> that planet do not get expressed naturally and

> that sometimes offers

> the clue regarding what may need to be attended to

> and may not always

> need a mantra or gemstone etc.

>

> Since you asked a very generic question and did

> not reveal your data, I

> could not proceed. If you post your full data, if

> you are really

> looking for an answer or some insight, you may

> still want to do so and

> someone will pick up the thread.

>

> It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets

> into a fixed box! In

> the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys

> play bad roles and

> bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we

> have not closed the

> window of our mind!

>

> RR

>

> ,

> "padhyemilind2002"

> <padhyemilind2002 wrote:

> >

> > Hello

> > In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes

> Sun, wherever it is

> > present. Can this be remedied by any mantras

> etc.? Since Sun is

> > enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the

> enmity other planets

> > have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also

> Mercury at 29.53 degrees

> > in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd

> position, and hence

> I

> > get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both

> these positions. Any

> > ideas?

> > Thanks

> >

>

>

>

>

>

> [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

>

>

 

 

 

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Respected RRji,

I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in Mithuna Lagna together with Shani.

Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.' does not apply to me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy going, lazy and always trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone until proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting nature, I have lost a fortune via investments in projects of friends and family and stock market. Again this may be an example of how looking at just one planet is not adequate to come to a conclusion.

My birth data is

DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44 (Dhoraji, India)

With Regards,

Pratap

 

vijayamalur <vijayamalur (AT) airtelbroadband (DOT) in> wrote:

Dear sir

 

I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. Infact i also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

 

Can you analyse my horoscope pls

 

vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

 

I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as The latter would

reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones. As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my family sir

 

I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce the ill effect of it

 

eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

 

best regards

 

vijaya

 

 

 

-

crystal pages

 

Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

Re: Rahu in Lagna

 

 

Dear Milind,

 

Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding mantras?

Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get fixed

(assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

 

Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

individuals do not get duped easily, at least not materialistically,

but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their lifeplan

but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter would

reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

 

The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes offers

the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not always

need a mantra or gemstone etc.

 

Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your data, I

could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so and

someone will pick up the thread.

 

It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box! In

the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles and

bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

window of our mind!

 

RR

 

, "padhyemilind2002"

 

wrote:

>

> Hello

> In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it is

> present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

> enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other planets

> have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 degrees

> in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and hence

I

> get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions. Any

> ideas?

> Thanks

>

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Dear Pratap ji

 

Thumb rule - unless rahu /ketu are associated with yoga graha of the lagna in trine / kendra - they are ashubha. So, prior to interprettion of rahu in lagna, we got to see, if they are functionally benefic or malefic. If malefic, native might experience the odd results (as you have explained). Then, it is important to look its dispositor (e.g. in your case mithuna lagna - rahu's dispositor in budha - hence artificial intelligence rules rahu / release of desires, might resulting into short term approach to the issues etc).

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity.

 

 

>

> pkaneria

> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:37:32 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

> Respected RRji,

>

> I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in Mithuna

> Lagna together with Shani.

>

> Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it

> makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.' does not apply to

> me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy going, lazy and always

> trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone until proven guilty.

> It is true though that because of my trusting nature, I have lost a

> fortune via investments in projects of friends and family and stock

> market. Again this may be an example of how looking at just one planet is

> not adequate to come to a conclusion.

>

> My birth data is

> DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44 (Dhoraji,

> India)

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

>

>

>

>

>

> vijayamalur <vijayamalur (AT) airtelbroadband (DOT) in> wrote:

> Dear sir

>

> I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. Infact i

> also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

>

> Can you analyse my horoscope pls

>

> vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

>

> I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as The

> latter would

> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

> As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my

> family sir

>

> I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce the ill

> effect of it

>

> eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

>

> best regards

>

> vijaya

>

>

>

> -

> crystal pages

>

> Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

>

> Dear Milind,

>

> Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

> Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding mantras?

> Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get fixed

> (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

>

> Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

> very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

> individuals do not get duped easily, at least not materialistically,

> but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their lifeplan

> but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter would

> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

>

> The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

> that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes offers

> the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not always

> need a mantra or gemstone etc.

>

> Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your data, I

> could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

> looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so and

> someone will pick up the thread.

>

> It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box! In

> the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles and

> bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

> window of our mind!

>

> RR

>

> , "padhyemilind2002"

>

> wrote:

>>

>> Hello

>> In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it is

>> present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

>> enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other planets

>> have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 degrees

>> in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and hence

> I

>> get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions. Any

>> ideas?

>> Thanks

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Prafulla ji,

Should we also look at the fact that Rahu in Mithuna is considered exalted? In my case, Rahu and Ketu are also vargottam and exalted (in navamsa they are in Mithuna and Saggitarius also). Would this change the conclusion? I also have Sun, Mars, Saturn and Ketu in Pushkara navamsa thereby improving the horoscope.

Nice hearing from you.

With Regards,

Pratap

 

Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Pratap ji

 

Thumb rule - unless rahu /ketu are associated with yoga graha of the lagna in trine / kendra - they are ashubha. So, prior to interprettion of rahu in lagna, we got to see, if they are functionally benefic or malefic. If malefic, native might experience the odd results (as you have explained). Then, it is important to look its dispositor (e.g. in your case mithuna lagna - rahu's dispositor in budha - hence artificial intelligence rules rahu / release of desires, might resulting into short term approach to the issues etc).

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity.

 

 

>

> pkaneria

> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:37:32 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

> Respected RRji,

>

> I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in Mithuna

> Lagna together with Shani.

>

> Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it

> makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.' does not apply to

> me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy going, lazy and always

> trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone until proven guilty.

> It is true though that because of my trusting nature, I have lost a

> fortune via investments in projects of friends and family and stock

> market. Again this may be an example of how looking at just one planet is

> not adequate to come to a conclusion.

>

> My birth data is

> DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44 (Dhoraji,

> India)

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

>

>

>

>

>

> vijayamalur wrote:

> Dear sir

>

> I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. Infact i

> also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

>

> Can you analyse my horoscope pls

>

> vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

>

> I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as The

> latter would

> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

> As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my

> family sir

>

> I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce the ill

> effect of it

>

> eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

>

> best regards

>

> vijaya

>

>

>

> -

> crystal pages

>

> Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

>

> Dear Milind,

>

> Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

> Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding mantras?

> Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get fixed

> (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

>

> Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

> very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

> individuals do not get duped easily, at least not materialistically,

> but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their lifeplan

> but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter would

> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

>

> The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

> that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes offers

> the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not always

> need a mantra or gemstone etc.

>

> Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your data, I

> could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

> looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so and

> someone will pick up the thread.

>

> It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box! In

> the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles and

> bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

> window of our mind!

>

> RR

>

> , "padhyemilind2002"

>

> wrote:

>>

>> Hello

>> In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it is

>> present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

>> enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other planets

>> have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 degrees

>> in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and hence

> I

>> get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions. Any

>> ideas?

>> Thanks

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Pratap ji

 

I do not consider rahu / ketu 's exaltation / debilitation, as this is just for strength of a planet (and has little to do with its malefic or benefic nature). I look rahu / ketu's proximity to lagna rising degree as major factor read with its dispositor's strength.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity.

 

 

>

> pkaneria

> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 06:37:32 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

> Dear Prafulla ji,

>

> Should we also look at the fact that Rahu in Mithuna is considered

> exalted? In my case, Rahu and Ketu are also vargottam and exalted (in

> navamsa they are in Mithuna and Saggitarius also). Would this change the

> conclusion? I also have Sun, Mars, Saturn and Ketu in Pushkara navamsa

> thereby improving the horoscope.

>

> Nice hearing from you.

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

> Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote:

> Dear Pratap ji

>

> Thumb rule - unless rahu /ketu are associated with yoga graha of the

> lagna in trine / kendra - they are ashubha. So, prior to interprettion of

> rahu in lagna, we got to see, if they are functionally benefic or

> malefic. If malefic, native might experience the odd results (as you have

> explained). Then, it is important to look its dispositor (e.g. in your

> case mithuna lagna - rahu's dispositor in budha - hence artificial

> intelligence rules rahu / release of desires, might resulting into short

> term approach to the issues etc).

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world

> safe for diversity.

>

>

>>

>> pkaneria

>> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:37:32 -0700 (PDT)

>>

>> Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

>>

>> Respected RRji,

>>

>> I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in Mithuna

>> Lagna together with Shani.

>>

>> Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it

>> makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.' does not apply to

>> me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy going, lazy and always

>> trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone until proven guilty.

>> It is true though that because of my trusting nature, I have lost a

>> fortune via investments in projects of friends and family and stock

>> market. Again this may be an example of how looking at just one planet

>> is

>> not adequate to come to a conclusion.

>>

>> My birth data is

>> DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44 (Dhoraji,

>> India)

>>

>> With Regards,

>>

>> Pratap

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> vijayamalur wrote:

>> Dear sir

>>

>> I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. Infact i

>> also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

>>

>> Can you analyse my horoscope pls

>>

>> vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

>>

>> I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as The

>> latter would

>> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

>> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

>> As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my

>> family sir

>>

>> I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce the ill

>> effect of it

>>

>> eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

>>

>> best regards

>>

>> vijaya

>>

>>

>>

>> -

>> crystal pages

>>

>> Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

>> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>>

>>

>> Dear Milind,

>>

>> Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

>> Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding mantras?

>> Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get fixed

>> (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

>>

>> Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

>> very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

>> individuals do not get duped easily, at least not materialistically,

>> but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their lifeplan

>> but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter would

>> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

>> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

>>

>> The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

>> that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes offers

>> the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not always

>> need a mantra or gemstone etc.

>>

>> Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your data, I

>> could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

>> looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so and

>> someone will pick up the thread.

>>

>> It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box! In

>> the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles and

>> bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

>> window of our mind!

>>

>> RR

>>

>> , "padhyemilind2002"

>>

>> wrote:

>>>

>>> Hello

>>> In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it is

>>> present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

>>> enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other planets

>>> have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 degrees

>>> in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and hence

>> I

>>> get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions. Any

>>> ideas?

>>> Thanks

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Dear Friends,

 

Rahu in lagna will be considered as benefic if :

 

born either in a hospital or Nanihal { mother's home }; wealthy;

will support a large family; good health ; respect from the powers

that be ; will have a til on the face ; the Nanihal will prosper

after his birth ; will be peace loving.

 

and will be considered malefic if :

 

On the day of his birth there must have been sign of a storm or rain

or a power failure at the time of birth; obstacles in every thing he

does ; At the time of birth Nana or Nani would have been present {

could also mean alive}; mischievious ; lots of transfers of place

without any raise in standard or salary ; the house in front will be

either deserted or family living in would be in bad shape ; not

auspicious for father { in terms of health & money} in the years

11,21 and 42 ; father might lose money in the years 2 , 8 , 18 , 26.

 

With naman to all gurujan,

 

Varun Trivedi

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Pratap ji

>

> I do not consider rahu / ketu 's exaltation / debilitation, as

this is just for strength of a planet (and has little to do with its

malefic or benefic nature). I look rahu / ketu's proximity to lagna

rising degree as major factor read with its dispositor's strength.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make

the world safe for diversity.

>

>

> >

> > pkaneria

> > Wed, 28 Jun 2006 06:37:32 -0700 (PDT)

> >

> > Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

> >

> > Dear Prafulla ji,

> >

> > Should we also look at the fact that Rahu in Mithuna is

considered

> > exalted? In my case, Rahu and Ketu are also vargottam and

exalted (in

> > navamsa they are in Mithuna and Saggitarius also). Would this

change the

> > conclusion? I also have Sun, Mars, Saturn and Ketu in Pushkara

navamsa

> > thereby improving the horoscope.

> >

> > Nice hearing from you.

> >

> > With Regards,

> >

> > Pratap

> >

> > Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

> > Dear Pratap ji

> >

> > Thumb rule - unless rahu /ketu are associated with yoga graha of

the

> > lagna in trine / kendra - they are ashubha. So, prior to

interprettion of

> > rahu in lagna, we got to see, if they are functionally benefic or

> > malefic. If malefic, native might experience the odd results (as

you have

> > explained). Then, it is important to look its dispositor (e.g.

in your

> > case mithuna lagna - rahu's dispositor in budha - hence

artificial

> > intelligence rules rahu / release of desires, might resulting

into short

> > term approach to the issues etc).

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make

the world

> > safe for diversity.

> >

> >

> >>

> >> pkaneria

> >> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:37:32 -0700 (PDT)

> >>

> >> Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

> >>

> >> Respected RRji,

> >>

> >> I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in

Mithuna

> >> Lagna together with Shani.

> >>

> >> Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly

always -- it

> >> makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.' does not

apply to

> >> me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy going, lazy and

always

> >> trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone until proven

guilty.

> >> It is true though that because of my trusting nature, I have

lost a

> >> fortune via investments in projects of friends and family and

stock

> >> market. Again this may be an example of how looking at just one

planet

> >> is

> >> not adequate to come to a conclusion.

> >>

> >> My birth data is

> >> DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44

(Dhoraji,

> >> India)

> >>

> >> With Regards,

> >>

> >> Pratap

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> vijayamalur wrote:

> >> Dear sir

> >>

> >> I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna.

Infact i

> >> also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

> >>

> >> Can you analyse my horoscope pls

> >>

> >> vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

> >>

> >> I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as

The

> >> latter would

> >> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

losing a

> >> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

loved ones.

> >> As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine

to my

> >> family sir

> >>

> >> I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce

the ill

> >> effect of it

> >>

> >> eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

> >>

> >> best regards

> >>

> >> vijaya

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> -

> >> crystal pages

> >>

> >> Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> >> Re: Rahu in Lagna

> >>

> >>

> >> Dear Milind,

> >>

> >> Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

> >> Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding

mantras?

> >> Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get

fixed

> >> (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

> >>

> >> Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes

the native

> >> very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that

the

> >> individuals do not get duped easily, at least not

materialistically,

> >> but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their

lifeplan

> >> but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter

would

> >> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

losing a

> >> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

loved ones.

> >>

> >> The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The

characteristics of

> >> that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes

offers

> >> the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not

always

> >> need a mantra or gemstone etc.

> >>

> >> Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your

data, I

> >> could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

> >> looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do

so and

> >> someone will pick up the thread.

> >>

> >> It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed

box! In

> >> the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad

roles and

> >> bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed

the

> >> window of our mind!

> >>

> >> RR

> >>

> >> , "padhyemilind2002"

> >>

> >> wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Hello

> >>> In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever

it is

> >>> present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

> >>> enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other

planets

> >>> have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53

degrees

> >>> in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and

hence

> >> I

> >>> get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these

positions. Any

> >>> ideas?

> >>> Thanks

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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Dear Prafulla ji,

In my case, for Mithuna lagna Venus is Yogakaraka ( per B.V.Raman Saturn is also a yogakarak for mithuna lagna) which is in 7th from Rahu? Would that make Rahu benefic ? Anyway I have passed 14 years of Rahu mahadasha and four more to go.

With Regards,

Pratap

 

Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Pratap ji

 

Thumb rule - unless rahu /ketu are associated with yoga graha of the lagna in trine / kendra - they are ashubha. So, prior to interprettion of rahu in lagna, we got to see, if they are functionally benefic or malefic. If malefic, native might experience the odd results (as you have explained). Then, it is important to look its dispositor (e.g. in your case mithuna lagna - rahu's dispositor in budha - hence artificial intelligence rules rahu / release of desires, might resulting into short term approach to the issues etc).

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity.

 

 

>

> pkaneria

> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:37:32 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

> Respected RRji,

>

> I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in Mithuna

> Lagna together with Shani.

>

> Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it

> makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.' does not apply to

> me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy going, lazy and always

> trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone until proven guilty.

> It is true though that because of my trusting nature, I have lost a

> fortune via investments in projects of friends and family and stock

> market. Again this may be an example of how looking at just one planet is

> not adequate to come to a conclusion.

>

> My birth data is

> DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44 (Dhoraji,

> India)

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

>

>

>

>

>

> vijayamalur wrote:

> Dear sir

>

> I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. Infact i

> also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

>

> Can you analyse my horoscope pls

>

> vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

>

> I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as The

> latter would

> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

> As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my

> family sir

>

> I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce the ill

> effect of it

>

> eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

>

> best regards

>

> vijaya

>

>

>

> -

> crystal pages

>

> Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

>

> Dear Milind,

>

> Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

> Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding mantras?

> Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get fixed

> (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

>

> Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

> very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

> individuals do not get duped easily, at least not materialistically,

> but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their lifeplan

> but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter would

> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

>

> The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

> that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes offers

> the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not always

> need a mantra or gemstone etc.

>

> Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your data, I

> could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

> looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so and

> someone will pick up the thread.

>

> It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box! In

> the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles and

> bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

> window of our mind!

>

> RR

>

> , "padhyemilind2002"

>

> wrote:

>>

>> Hello

>> In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it is

>> present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

>> enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other planets

>> have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 degrees

>> in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and hence

> I

>> get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions. Any

>> ideas?

>> Thanks

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Pratap ji

 

How has been your rahu dasha? and please tell me, if it is per lahiri or TA.. As, per TA, all fast moving planet changes quite drastically.

 

Technically speaking, as per Parashar (yoga graha definition) - Venus is benefic for mithuna lagna. so, Rahu / ketu will become yoga graha for their association with Venus. Just check, how is jupiter and mercury placed (KCP). Another cross check, could be rahu's transit over natal sun / mercury / venus (if benefic - will be very good); and ketu's transit will be bad.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity.

 

 

>

> pkaneria

> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:46:07 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

> Dear Prafulla ji,

>

> In my case, for Mithuna lagna Venus is Yogakaraka ( per B.V.Raman

> Saturn is also a yogakarak for mithuna lagna) which is in 7th from Rahu?

> Would that make Rahu benefic ? Anyway I have passed 14 years of Rahu

> mahadasha and four more to go.

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

> Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote:

> Dear Pratap ji

>

> Thumb rule - unless rahu /ketu are associated with yoga graha of the

> lagna in trine / kendra - they are ashubha. So, prior to interprettion of

> rahu in lagna, we got to see, if they are functionally benefic or

> malefic. If malefic, native might experience the odd results (as you have

> explained). Then, it is important to look its dispositor (e.g. in your

> case mithuna lagna - rahu's dispositor in budha - hence artificial

> intelligence rules rahu / release of desires, might resulting into short

> term approach to the issues etc).

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world

> safe for diversity.

>

>

>>

>> pkaneria

>> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:37:32 -0700 (PDT)

>>

>> Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

>>

>> Respected RRji,

>>

>> I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in Mithuna

>> Lagna together with Shani.

>>

>> Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it

>> makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.' does not apply to

>> me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy going, lazy and always

>> trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone until proven guilty.

>> It is true though that because of my trusting nature, I have lost a

>> fortune via investments in projects of friends and family and stock

>> market. Again this may be an example of how looking at just one planet

>> is

>> not adequate to come to a conclusion.

>>

>> My birth data is

>> DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44 (Dhoraji,

>> India)

>>

>> With Regards,

>>

>> Pratap

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> vijayamalur wrote:

>> Dear sir

>>

>> I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. Infact i

>> also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

>>

>> Can you analyse my horoscope pls

>>

>> vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

>>

>> I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as The

>> latter would

>> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

>> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

>> As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my

>> family sir

>>

>> I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce the ill

>> effect of it

>>

>> eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

>>

>> best regards

>>

>> vijaya

>>

>>

>>

>> -

>> crystal pages

>>

>> Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

>> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>>

>>

>> Dear Milind,

>>

>> Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

>> Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding mantras?

>> Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get fixed

>> (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

>>

>> Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

>> very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

>> individuals do not get duped easily, at least not materialistically,

>> but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their lifeplan

>> but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter would

>> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

>> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

>>

>> The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

>> that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes offers

>> the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not always

>> need a mantra or gemstone etc.

>>

>> Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your data, I

>> could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

>> looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so and

>> someone will pick up the thread.

>>

>> It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box! In

>> the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles and

>> bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

>> window of our mind!

>>

>> RR

>>

>> , "padhyemilind2002"

>>

>> wrote:

>>>

>>> Hello

>>> In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it is

>>> present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

>>> enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other planets

>>> have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 degrees

>>> in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and hence

>> I

>>> get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions. Any

>>> ideas?

>>> Thanks

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Dear sir

 

I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. Infact i also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

 

Can you analyse my horoscope pls

 

vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

 

I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as The latter would

reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones. As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my family sir

 

I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce the ill effect of it

 

eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

 

best regards

 

vijaya

 

 

 

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Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

Re: Rahu in Lagna

 

 

Dear Milind,

 

Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding mantras?

Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get fixed

(assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

 

Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

individuals do not get duped easily, at least not materialistically,

but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their lifeplan

but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter would

reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

 

The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes offers

the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not always

need a mantra or gemstone etc.

 

Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your data, I

could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so and

someone will pick up the thread.

 

It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box! In

the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles and

bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

window of our mind!

 

RR

 

, "padhyemilind2002"

<padhyemilind2002 wrote:

>

> Hello

> In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it is

> present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

> enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other planets

> have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 degrees

> in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and hence

I

> get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions. Any

> ideas?

> Thanks

>

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Dear Prafulla ji,

In this group, I would not dare to bring up TA. Per Lahiri, my Rahu MD started on June 6, 1992 (Rahu was in saggitarius (7th) where my Venus and Ketu are). Rahu left Scorpio(6th) ( where my Merc, Sun and Mars are) on about Dec 1, 1995. This was one of the happiest period of my life (almost all depts). Since then, it has been tremendous ups and downs, with a net negative in all aspects, except health. I can't wait till Rahu comes back to Saggitarius but then Rahu MD will be practically over.

My Jupiter is all alone in 4th house (virgo) with a kendrathipati dosha.

I am sure Rahu alone is not responsible for all the happenings. I feel that Rahu is a benefic planet for me.

With Regards,

Pratap

 

Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Pratap ji

 

How has been your rahu dasha? and please tell me, if it is per lahiri or TA. As, per TA, all fast moving planet changes quite drastically.

 

Technically speaking, as per Parashar (yoga graha definition) - Venus is benefic for mithuna lagna. so, Rahu / ketu will become yoga graha for their association with Venus. Just check, how is jupiter and mercury placed (KCP). Another cross check, could be rahu's transit over natal sun / mercury / venus (if benefic - will be very good); and ketu's transit will be bad.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity.

 

 

>

> pkaneria

> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:46:07 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

> Dear Prafulla ji,

>

> In my case, for Mithuna lagna Venus is Yogakaraka ( per B.V.Raman

> Saturn is also a yogakarak for mithuna lagna) which is in 7th from Rahu?

> Would that make Rahu benefic ? Anyway I have passed 14 years of Rahu

> mahadasha and four more to go.

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

> Prafulla Gang wrote:

> Dear Pratap ji

>

> Thumb rule - unless rahu /ketu are associated with yoga graha of the

> lagna in trine / kendra - they are ashubha. So, prior to interprettion of

> rahu in lagna, we got to see, if they are functionally benefic or

> malefic. If malefic, native might experience the odd results (as you have

> explained). Then, it is important to look its dispositor (e.g. in your

> case mithuna lagna - rahu's dispositor in budha - hence artificial

> intelligence rules rahu / release of desires, might resulting into short

> term approach to the issues etc).

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world

> safe for diversity.

>

>

>>

>> pkaneria

>> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:37:32 -0700 (PDT)

>>

>> Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

>>

>> Respected RRji,

>>

>> I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in Mithuna

>> Lagna together with Shani.

>>

>> Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it

>> makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.' does not apply to

>> me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy going, lazy and always

>> trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone until proven guilty.

>> It is true though that because of my trusting nature, I have lost a

>> fortune via investments in projects of friends and family and stock

>> market. Again this may be an example of how looking at just one planet

>> is

>> not adequate to come to a conclusion.

>>

>> My birth data is

>> DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44 (Dhoraji,

>> India)

>>

>> With Regards,

>>

>> Pratap

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> vijayamalur wrote:

>> Dear sir

>>

>> I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. Infact i

>> also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

>>

>> Can you analyse my horoscope pls

>>

>> vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

>>

>> I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as The

>> latter would

>> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

>> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

>> As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my

>> family sir

>>

>> I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce the ill

>> effect of it

>>

>> eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

>>

>> best regards

>>

>> vijaya

>>

>>

>>

>> -

>> crystal pages

>>

>> Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

>> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>>

>>

>> Dear Milind,

>>

>> Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

>> Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding mantras?

>> Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get fixed

>> (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

>>

>> Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

>> very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

>> individuals do not get duped easily, at least not materialistically,

>> but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their lifeplan

>> but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter would

>> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

>> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

>>

>> The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

>> that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes offers

>> the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not always

>> need a mantra or gemstone etc.

>>

>> Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your data, I

>> could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

>> looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so and

>> someone will pick up the thread.

>>

>> It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box! In

>> the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles and

>> bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

>> window of our mind!

>>

>> RR

>>

>> , "padhyemilind2002"

>>

>> wrote:

>>>

>>> Hello

>>> In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it is

>>> present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

>>> enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other planets

>>> have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 degrees

>>> in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and hence

>> I

>>> get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions. Any

>>> ideas?

>>> Thanks

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Dear Pratap ji

 

Rahu is positive, as when it moved over natal sun / merc..gave good results..

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world safe for diversity.

 

 

>

> pkaneria

> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 18:02:12 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

> Dear Prafulla ji,

>

> In this group, I would not dare to bring up TA. Per Lahiri, my Rahu MD

> started on June 6, 1992 (Rahu was in saggitarius (7th) where my Venus and

> Ketu are). Rahu left Scorpio(6th) ( where my Merc, Sun and Mars are) on

> about Dec 1, 1995. This was one of the happiest period of my life (almost

> all depts). Since then, it has been tremendous ups and downs, with a net

> negative in all aspects, except health. I can't wait till Rahu comes back

> to Saggitarius but then Rahu MD will be practically over.

>

> My Jupiter is all alone in 4th house (virgo) with a kendrathipati

> dosha.

>

> I am sure Rahu alone is not responsible for all the happenings. I feel

> that Rahu is a benefic planet for me.

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

>

>

>

> Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote:

> Dear Pratap ji

>

> How has been your rahu dasha? and please tell me, if it is per lahiri or

> TA. As, per TA, all fast moving planet changes quite drastically.

>

> Technically speaking, as per Parashar (yoga graha definition) - Venus is

> benefic for mithuna lagna. so, Rahu / ketu will become yoga graha for

> their association with Venus. Just check, how is jupiter and mercury

> placed (KCP). Another cross check, could be rahu's transit over natal sun

> / mercury / venus (if benefic - will be very good); and ketu's transit

> will be bad.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world

> safe for diversity.

>

>

>>

>> pkaneria

>> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 12:46:07 -0700 (PDT)

>>

>> Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

>>

>> Dear Prafulla ji,

>>

>> In my case, for Mithuna lagna Venus is Yogakaraka ( per B.V.Raman

>> Saturn is also a yogakarak for mithuna lagna) which is in 7th from Rahu?

>> Would that make Rahu benefic ? Anyway I have passed 14 years of Rahu

>> mahadasha and four more to go.

>>

>> With Regards,

>>

>> Pratap

>>

>> Prafulla Gang wrote:

>> Dear Pratap ji

>>

>> Thumb rule - unless rahu /ketu are associated with yoga graha of the

>> lagna in trine / kendra - they are ashubha. So, prior to interprettion

>> of

>> rahu in lagna, we got to see, if they are functionally benefic or

>> malefic. If malefic, native might experience the odd results (as you

>> have

>> explained). Then, it is important to look its dispositor (e.g. in your

>> case mithuna lagna - rahu's dispositor in budha - hence artificial

>> intelligence rules rahu / release of desires, might resulting into short

>> term approach to the issues etc).

>>

>> regards / Prafulla Gang

>>

>> If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the

>> world

>> safe for diversity.

>>

>>

>>>

>>> pkaneria

>>> Wed, 28 Jun 2006 05:37:32 -0700 (PDT)

>>>

>>> Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

>>>

>>> Respected RRji,

>>>

>>> I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in Mithuna

>>> Lagna together with Shani.

>>>

>>> Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it

>>> makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.' does not apply to

>>> me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy going, lazy and always

>>> trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone until proven guilty.

>>> It is true though that because of my trusting nature, I have lost a

>>> fortune via investments in projects of friends and family and stock

>>> market. Again this may be an example of how looking at just one planet

>>> is

>>> not adequate to come to a conclusion.

>>>

>>> My birth data is

>>> DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44 (Dhoraji,

>>> India)

>>>

>>> With Regards,

>>>

>>> Pratap

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> vijayamalur wrote:

>>> Dear sir

>>>

>>> I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. Infact i

>>> also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

>>>

>>> Can you analyse my horoscope pls

>>>

>>> vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

>>>

>>> I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as The

>>> latter would

>>> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

>>> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

>>> As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my

>>> family sir

>>>

>>> I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce the ill

>>> effect of it

>>>

>>> eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

>>>

>>> best regards

>>>

>>> vijaya

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> -

>>> crystal pages

>>>

>>> Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

>>> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>>>

>>>

>>> Dear Milind,

>>>

>>> Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

>>> Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding mantras?

>>> Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get fixed

>>> (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

>>>

>>> Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

>>> very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

>>> individuals do not get duped easily, at least not materialistically,

>>> but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their lifeplan

>>> but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter would

>>> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

>>> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

>>>

>>> The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

>>> that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes offers

>>> the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not always

>>> need a mantra or gemstone etc.

>>>

>>> Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your data, I

>>> could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

>>> looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so and

>>> someone will pick up the thread.

>>>

>>> It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box! In

>>> the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles and

>>> bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

>>> window of our mind!

>>>

>>> RR

>>>

>>> , "padhyemilind2002"

>>>

>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Hello

>>>> In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it is

>>>> present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

>>>> enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other planets

>>>> have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 degrees

>>>> in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and hence

>>> I

>>>> get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions. Any

>>>> ideas?

>>>> Thanks

>>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

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Hello Pratap,

 

I have been following this interesting thread and

thought I would calculate your chart for myself.

I've done so on two separate programs and come

up with *Vrishaba* as your ascendant, not Mithuna.

This places Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd and 8th--financial

houses--and 8L Jupiter at zero degrees in the 5H of

investment losses. Vrishaba would indicate your "very

easy going, lazy and always trusting" nature, rather than

Rahu and Shani. I do not see you as having a Mithuna lagna.

Please double check for daylight savings or war time

because I believe your chart is likely off by an hour and

giving you the wrong ascendant. Just one astrologer's

opinion, of course.

 

Sincerely, Haizen Paige

 

PS. Rahu on the cusp of the 2nd house under Rahu dasha

would explain some of your major financial losses.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote:

>

> Respected RRji,

>

> I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in Mithuna Lagna together

with Shani.

>

> Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

very cautious and even suspicious.' does not apply to me. So I must be the exception. I am

very easy going, lazy and always trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone until

proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting nature, I have lost a fortune via

investments in projects of friends and family and stock market. Again this may be an

example of how looking at just one planet is not adequate to come to a conclusion.

>

> My birth data is

> DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44 (Dhoraji, India)

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

>

>

>

>

>

> vijayamalur <vijayamalur wrote:

> Dear sir

>

> I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. Infact i also have rahu in

lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

>

> Can you analyse my horoscope pls

>

> vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

>

> I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as The latter would

> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones. As it is i dont want

to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my family sir

>

> I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce the ill effect of it

>

> eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

>

> best regards

>

> vijaya

>

>

>

> -

> crystal pages

>

> Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

>

> Dear Milind,

>

> Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

> Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding mantras?

> Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get fixed

> (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

>

> Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

> very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

> individuals do not get duped easily, at least not materialistically,

> but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their lifeplan

> but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter would

> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

>

> The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

> that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes offers

> the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not always

> need a mantra or gemstone etc.

>

> Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your data, I

> could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

> looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so and

> someone will pick up the thread.

>

> It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box! In

> the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles and

> bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

> window of our mind!

>

> RR

>

> , "padhyemilind2002"

>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello

> > In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it is

> > present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

> > enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other planets

> > have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 degrees

> > in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and hence

> I

> > get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions. Any

> > ideas?

> > Thanks

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hello Haizen,

Can you please tell me which 2 programs you are using? I use Jhora and Lahiri ayanamsa and Lagna is Mithuna. Actually it was Vistiji who corrected my birthtime to 20:38 from 20:40. But that time fails the Kunda rule.

Yes. My birthtime was in wartime and there was a wartime adjustment. Howerer per Astro.com site (very reputable and a great site), they make a comment for my birthdate that wartime time adjustment was followed only in Europe and not in India. Still some other Indian software I used in past were applying wartime adjustment. I am really not sure what is the case.

Based on my physical and mental characteristics as described by several different authors, there is a lingering doubt in my mind that Taurus lagna applies to me much better than Gemini.

Because of all these, I have decided to learn birth time rectification and figure out my birth time once and for all, because after all without a precise birth time most of the readings of chart can not be relied upon with confidence. I would like to use some methods which are deterministic and not subjective. I have found two such methods so far.

1. Chandulal Patel in his book 'Navamsa in Astrology' page 144 and 145 refer to "Prasna Marga Chap V verse 8" and explains a method which involves multiplying the Lagna-longitude and Moon-longitude by 81 and then few more steps to come up a derived longitude which should be idential for both Lagna and Moon if the birth time is correct. Using this method and a lots of trial and error (i.e check horoscope using every minute within Gemini lagna and do the calculations), I came up a birth time of 22:00:40.934 which gives a lagna of Gemini 29-50-8.55.

2. Then I read up on Kunda method. There is an excellent article on the web by Shri Visti Larsen on birth time rectification by Kunda method. Essence of the Kunda method is that Lagna rasi of D-81 chart must be same as the Lagna, 5th, 7th or 9th rasi in the D-1 chart. The time I mentioned above is verified with the Kunda method.

I am still not convinced so I am going to look for some more confirmations by some other methods. Please recommend more methods if you know of them.

With Regards,

Pratap

 

haizen <haizen (AT) haizen (DOT) com> wrote:

Hello Pratap,

 

I have been following this interesting thread and

thought I would calculate your chart for myself.

I've done so on two separate programs and come

up with *Vrishaba* as your ascendant, not Mithuna.

This places Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd and 8th--financial

houses--and 8L Jupiter at zero degrees in the 5H of

investment losses. Vrishaba would indicate your "very

easy going, lazy and always trusting" nature, rather than

Rahu and Shani. I do not see you as having a Mithuna lagna.

Please double check for daylight savings or war time

because I believe your chart is likely off by an hour and

giving you the wrong ascendant. Just one astrologer's

opinion, of course.

 

Sincerely, Haizen Paige

 

PS. Rahu on the cusp of the 2nd house under Rahu dasha

would explain some of your major financial losses.

 

 

 

 

 

 

, Pratap Kaneria

wrote:

>

> Respected RRji,

>

> I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in Mithuna Lagna together

with Shani.

>

> Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

very cautious and even suspicious.' does not apply to me. So I must be the exception. I am

very easy going, lazy and always trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone until

proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting nature, I have lost a fortune via

investments in projects of friends and family and stock market. Again this may be an

example of how looking at just one planet is not adequate to come to a conclusion.

>

> My birth data is

> DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44 (Dhoraji, India)

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

>

>

>

>

>

> vijayamalur wrote:

> Dear sir

>

> I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. Infact i also have rahu in

lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

>

> Can you analyse my horoscope pls

>

> vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

>

> I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as The latter would

> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones. As it is i dont want

to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my family sir

>

> I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce the ill effect of it

>

> eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

>

> best regards

>

> vijaya

>

>

>

> -

> crystal pages

>

> Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

>

> Dear Milind,

>

> Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

> Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding mantras?

> Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get fixed

> (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

>

> Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

> very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

> individuals do not get duped easily, at least not materialistically,

> but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their lifeplan

> but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter would

> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

>

> The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

> that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes offers

> the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not always

> need a mantra or gemstone etc.

>

> Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your data, I

> could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

> looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so and

> someone will pick up the thread.

>

> It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box! In

> the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles and

> bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

> window of our mind!

>

> RR

>

> , "padhyemilind2002"

>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello

> > In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it is

> > present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

> > enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other planets

> > have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 degrees

> > in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and hence

> I

> > get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions. Any

> > ideas?

> > Thanks

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Ranjan ji

 

Yes, I tried to trace rahu's effects in first house in few charts..It reflected cautious personality (though ambitious). I could not check, if they trust easily or not.

 

regards / Prafulla Gang

 

If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still hate them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

 

 

>

> pkaneria

> Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:44:31 -0700 (PDT)

>

> Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

> Hello Haizen,

>

> Can you please tell me which 2 programs you are using? I use Jhora and

> Lahiri ayanamsa and Lagna is Mithuna. Actually it was Vistiji who

> corrected my birthtime to 20:38 from 20:40. But that time fails the Kunda

> rule.

>

> Yes. My birthtime was in wartime and there was a wartime adjustment.

> Howerer per Astro.com site (very reputable and a great site), they make a

> comment for my birthdate that wartime time adjustment was followed only

> in Europe and not in India. Still some other Indian software I used in

> past were applying wartime adjustment. I am really not sure what is the

> case.

>

> Based on my physical and mental characteristics as described by several

> different authors, there is a lingering doubt in my mind that Taurus

> lagna applies to me much better than Gemini.

>

> Because of all these, I have decided to learn birth time rectification

> and figure out my birth time once and for all, because after all without

> a precise birth time most of the readings of chart can not be relied upon

> with confidence. I would like to use some methods which are

> deterministic and not subjective. I have found two such methods so far.

>

> 1. Chandulal Patel in his book 'Navamsa in Astrology' page 144 and 145

> refer to "Prasna Marga Chap V verse 8" and explains a method which

> involves multiplying the Lagna-longitude and Moon-longitude by 81 and

> then few more steps to come up a derived longitude which should be

> idential for both Lagna and Moon if the birth time is correct. Using this

> method and a lots of trial and error (i.e check horoscope using every

> minute within Gemini lagna and do the calculations), I came up a birth

> time of 22:00:40.934 which gives a lagna of Gemini 29-50-8.55.

>

> 2. Then I read up on Kunda method. There is an excellent article on the

> web by Shri Visti Larsen on birth time rectification by Kunda method.

> Essence of the Kunda method is that Lagna rasi of D-81 chart must be same

> as the Lagna, 5th, 7th or 9th rasi in the D-1 chart. The time I

> mentioned above is verified with the Kunda method.

>

> I am still not convinced so I am going to look for some more

> confirmations by some other methods. Please recommend more methods if you

> know of them.

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

>

>

>

>

> haizen <haizen (AT) haizen (DOT) com> wrote:

> Hello Pratap,

>

> I have been following this interesting thread and

> thought I would calculate your chart for myself.

> I've done so on two separate programs and come

> up with *Vrishaba* as your ascendant, not Mithuna.

> This places Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd and 8th--financial

> houses--and 8L Jupiter at zero degrees in the 5H of

> investment losses. Vrishaba would indicate your "very

> easy going, lazy and always trusting" nature, rather than

> Rahu and Shani. I do not see you as having a Mithuna lagna.

> Please double check for daylight savings or war time

> because I believe your chart is likely off by an hour and

> giving you the wrong ascendant. Just one astrologer's

> opinion, of course.

>

> Sincerely, Haizen Paige

>

> PS. Rahu on the cusp of the 2nd house under Rahu dasha

> would explain some of your major financial losses.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> , Pratap Kaneria

> wrote:

>>

>> Respected RRji,

>>

>> I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in Mithuna

>> Lagna together

> with Shani.

>>

>> Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it

>> makes the native

> very cautious and even suspicious.' does not apply to me. So I must be

> the exception. I am

> very easy going, lazy and always trusting. Actually I like to trust

> almost everyone until

> proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting nature, I

> have lost a fortune via

> investments in projects of friends and family and stock market. Again

> this may be an

> example of how looking at just one planet is not adequate to come to a

> conclusion.

>>

>> My birth data is

>> DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44 (Dhoraji,

>> India)

>>

>> With Regards,

>>

>> Pratap

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> vijayamalur wrote:

>> Dear sir

>>

>> I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. Infact i

>> also have rahu in

> lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

>>

>> Can you analyse my horoscope pls

>>

>> vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

>>

>> I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as The

>> latter would

>> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

>> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

>> As it is i dont want

> to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my family sir

>>

>> I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce the ill

>> effect of it

>>

>> eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

>>

>> best regards

>>

>> vijaya

>>

>>

>>

>> -

>> crystal pages

>>

>> Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

>> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>>

>>

>> Dear Milind,

>>

>> Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

>> Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding mantras?

>> Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get fixed

>> (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

>>

>> Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

>> very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

>> individuals do not get duped easily, at least not materialistically,

>> but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their lifeplan

>> but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter would

>> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

>> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

>>

>> The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

>> that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes offers

>> the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not always

>> need a mantra or gemstone etc.

>>

>> Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your data, I

>> could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

>> looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so and

>> someone will pick up the thread.

>>

>> It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box! In

>> the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles and

>> bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

>> window of our mind!

>>

>> RR

>>

>> , "padhyemilind2002"

>>

>> wrote:

>>>

>>> Hello

>>> In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it is

>>> present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

>>> enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other planets

>>> have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 degrees

>>> in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and hence

>> I

>>> get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions. Any

>>> ideas?

>>> Thanks

>>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Hi Pratap,

 

-Parashara's Light and Io Astrology, a western program with some vedic

features, including an excellent atlas and time-change tables. Taurus

lagna, Saturn and Rahu in the 2nd, financial Jupiter in the 5H of investment...

to me this looks like the chart of someone who would be *very heavily* involved

in financial markets, very much different than the life focus of a Gemini lagna.

(But you would still express those Gemini qualities through the 2nd not 1st

house. Rahu and Gemini in the 2nd can show financial gains too or there would

be no point in playing the game, as these are both strong positions).

 

You might also check out your chart and time-change particulars at Astrodienst.

They usually have very up-to-date information on daylight savings and war time.

But I've known situations where the person had to research their particular place

of birth to see what time zone was in effect or for day-light savings. In any event,

your chart cries out Taurus lagna to me for a vast number of reasons and your

Gemini chart feels like fingernails on a blackboard. I never take a lagna for

granted, especially if the person has to work too hard to make it fit or feel

comfortable with it.

 

Best wishes, Haizen Paige

 

 

, Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote:

>

> Hello Haizen,

>

> Can you please tell me which 2 programs you are using? I use Jhora and Lahiri

ayanamsa and Lagna is Mithuna. Actually it was Vistiji who corrected my birthtime to

20:38 from 20:40. But that time fails the Kunda rule.

>

> Yes. My birthtime was in wartime and there was a wartime adjustment. Howerer per

Astro.com site (very reputable and a great site), they make a comment for my birthdate

that wartime time adjustment was followed only in Europe and not in India. Still some

other Indian software I used in past were applying wartime adjustment. I am really not sure

what is the case.

>

> Based on my physical and mental characteristics as described by several different

authors, there is a lingering doubt in my mind that Taurus lagna applies to me much

better than Gemini.

>

> Because of all these, I have decided to learn birth time rectification and figure out my

birth time once and for all, because after all without a precise birth time most of the

readings of chart can not be relied upon with confidence. I would like to use some

methods which are deterministic and not subjective. I have found two such methods so

far.

>

> 1. Chandulal Patel in his book 'Navamsa in Astrology' page 144 and 145 refer to

"Prasna Marga Chap V verse 8" and explains a method which involves multiplying the

Lagna-longitude and Moon-longitude by 81 and then few more steps to come up a

derived longitude which should be idential for both Lagna and Moon if the birth time is

correct. Using this method and a lots of trial and error (i.e check horoscope using every

minute within Gemini lagna and do the calculations), I came up a birth time of

22:00:40.934 which gives a lagna of Gemini 29-50-8.55.

>

> 2. Then I read up on Kunda method. There is an excellent article on the web by Shri

Visti Larsen on birth time rectification by Kunda method. Essence of the Kunda method is

that Lagna rasi of D-81 chart must be same as the Lagna, 5th, 7th or 9th rasi in the D-1

chart. The time I mentioned above is verified with the Kunda method.

>

> I am still not convinced so I am going to look for some more confirmations by some

other methods. Please recommend more methods if you know of them.

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

>

>

>

>

> haizen <haizen wrote:

> Hello Pratap,

>

> I have been following this interesting thread and

> thought I would calculate your chart for myself.

> I've done so on two separate programs and come

> up with *Vrishaba* as your ascendant, not Mithuna.

> This places Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd and 8th--financial

> houses--and 8L Jupiter at zero degrees in the 5H of

> investment losses. Vrishaba would indicate your "very

> easy going, lazy and always trusting" nature, rather than

> Rahu and Shani. I do not see you as having a Mithuna lagna.

> Please double check for daylight savings or war time

> because I believe your chart is likely off by an hour and

> giving you the wrong ascendant. Just one astrologer's

> opinion, of course.

>

> Sincerely, Haizen Paige

>

> PS. Rahu on the cusp of the 2nd house under Rahu dasha

> would explain some of your major financial losses.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> , Pratap Kaneria

> wrote:

> >

> > Respected RRji,

> >

> > I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in Mithuna Lagna together

> with Shani.

> >

> > Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

> very cautious and even suspicious.' does not apply to me. So I must be the exception. I

am

> very easy going, lazy and always trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone until

> proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting nature, I have lost a fortune

via

> investments in projects of friends and family and stock market. Again this may be an

> example of how looking at just one planet is not adequate to come to a conclusion.

> >

> > My birth data is

> > DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44 (Dhoraji, India)

> >

> > With Regards,

> >

> > Pratap

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vijayamalur wrote:

> > Dear sir

> >

> > I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. Infact i also have rahu in

> lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

> >

> > Can you analyse my horoscope pls

> >

> > vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

> >

> > I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as The latter would

> > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

> > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones. As it is i dont

want

> to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my family sir

> >

> > I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce the ill effect of it

> >

> > eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

> >

> > best regards

> >

> > vijaya

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > crystal pages

> >

> > Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> > Re: Rahu in Lagna

> >

> >

> > Dear Milind,

> >

> > Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

> > Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding mantras?

> > Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get fixed

> > (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

> >

> > Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the native

> > very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

> > individuals do not get duped easily, at least not materialistically,

> > but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their lifeplan

> > but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter would

> > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up losing a

> > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved ones.

> >

> > The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

> > that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes offers

> > the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not always

> > need a mantra or gemstone etc.

> >

> > Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your data, I

> > could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

> > looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so and

> > someone will pick up the thread.

> >

> > It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box! In

> > the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles and

> > bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

> > window of our mind!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "padhyemilind2002"

> >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello

> > > In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it is

> > > present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

> > > enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other planets

> > > have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53 degrees

> > > in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and hence

> > I

> > > get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions. Any

> > > ideas?

> > > Thanks

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Prafulla,

 

This is how I look at these attributes in general, mostly based on

empirical considerations as opposed to something ported from

classics. Planets have a basic trait and sometimes there are

mythological correlations too but those I consider as mnemonics,

memory aids rather than automatically taking those stories as

concrete reality. Even the relatively recent story/account of Jesus

has been subject to so many variations (even by scholars and I am not

including Dan Brown amongst those!) so how can we be sure of the

historical veracity of much ancient mythological accounts.

 

Stepping aside from that -- and getting back to rahu: Rahu represents

intellect (even mythological terms he did manage to receive amrita

and had the intellect and sense of knowing the relative importance of

amrita over whatever the other demons were enjoying then (mohinimurti

of Lord vishnu I suppose!).

 

The intellect makes one restless and allows one to envisage

possibilities for expansion and exploration and this sometimes we

call derogatorily as ambition. Sure there are good and bad ambitions!

All visionaries are ambitious -- including figures like Gandhi,

Mandela, Martin Luther King. In a perverse contrast, so was Hitler

and other dictators.

 

Ambition is not bad if it includes a larger reality, and the aim is

to benefit others and honestly and sincerely so!

 

Rahu can bring ambition and depending on its nature the ambition will

manifest as positive or negative. Rahu is a shadow planet and very

susceptible to other influences (hence called a surrogate of planets

it disposes (is in the sign of) or is associated with. Studying rahu

alone in isolation and calling it good or bad without these essential

secondary influences can be deceptive.

 

What in the best form may be caution can get worse and express as

suspicion and even paranoia in the worst case. Rahu at best will

question and criticise and not accept things for granted -- depending

on other influences, but at its worst it can indeed trap one into a

situation which can release the worst that is embedded in the human

psyche. It is not rahu that is good or bad, but how the carnate soul

has chosen to partake of the spectrum that Rahu represents. Or for

that matter any other planet! There is no unconditional or

unqualified malefic and benefic. In fact as we see often, there is

not even a consensus in what constitutes benefic or malefic!

Subjectivity is involved depending on whether you are asking a Sage

or householder. Each has their life to live and trading lives is not

an option!

 

Not overnight anyway ;-)

 

RR

 

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Ranjan ji

>

> Yes, I tried to trace rahu's effects in first house in few

charts..It reflected cautious personality (though ambitious). I could

not check, if they trust easily or not.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still

hate them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

>

>

> >

> > pkaneria

> > Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:44:31 -0700 (PDT)

> >

> > Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

> >

> > Hello Haizen,

> >

> > Can you please tell me which 2 programs you are using? I use

Jhora and

> > Lahiri ayanamsa and Lagna is Mithuna. Actually it was Vistiji who

> > corrected my birthtime to 20:38 from 20:40. But that time fails

the Kunda

> > rule.

> >

> > Yes. My birthtime was in wartime and there was a wartime

adjustment.

> > Howerer per Astro.com site (very reputable and a great site),

they make a

> > comment for my birthdate that wartime time adjustment was

followed only

> > in Europe and not in India. Still some other Indian software I

used in

> > past were applying wartime adjustment. I am really not sure what

is the

> > case.

> >

> > Based on my physical and mental characteristics as described by

several

> > different authors, there is a lingering doubt in my mind that

Taurus

> > lagna applies to me much better than Gemini.

> >

> > Because of all these, I have decided to learn birth time

rectification

> > and figure out my birth time once and for all, because after all

without

> > a precise birth time most of the readings of chart can not be

relied upon

> > with confidence. I would like to use some methods which are

> > deterministic and not subjective. I have found two such methods

so far.

> >

> > 1. Chandulal Patel in his book 'Navamsa in Astrology' page 144

and 145

> > refer to "Prasna Marga Chap V verse 8" and explains a method which

> > involves multiplying the Lagna-longitude and Moon-longitude by 81

and

> > then few more steps to come up a derived longitude which should be

> > idential for both Lagna and Moon if the birth time is correct.

Using this

> > method and a lots of trial and error (i.e check horoscope using

every

> > minute within Gemini lagna and do the calculations), I came up a

birth

> > time of 22:00:40.934 which gives a lagna of Gemini 29-50-8.55.

> >

> > 2. Then I read up on Kunda method. There is an excellent

article on the

> > web by Shri Visti Larsen on birth time rectification by Kunda

method.

> > Essence of the Kunda method is that Lagna rasi of D-81 chart must

be same

> > as the Lagna, 5th, 7th or 9th rasi in the D-1 chart. The time I

> > mentioned above is verified with the Kunda method.

> >

> > I am still not convinced so I am going to look for some more

> > confirmations by some other methods. Please recommend more

methods if you

> > know of them.

> >

> > With Regards,

> >

> > Pratap

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > haizen <haizen wrote:

> > Hello Pratap,

> >

> > I have been following this interesting thread and

> > thought I would calculate your chart for myself.

> > I've done so on two separate programs and come

> > up with *Vrishaba* as your ascendant, not Mithuna.

> > This places Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd and 8th--financial

> > houses--and 8L Jupiter at zero degrees in the 5H of

> > investment losses. Vrishaba would indicate your "very

> > easy going, lazy and always trusting" nature, rather than

> > Rahu and Shani. I do not see you as having a Mithuna lagna.

> > Please double check for daylight savings or war time

> > because I believe your chart is likely off by an hour and

> > giving you the wrong ascendant. Just one astrologer's

> > opinion, of course.

> >

> > Sincerely, Haizen Paige

> >

> > PS. Rahu on the cusp of the 2nd house under Rahu dasha

> > would explain some of your major financial losses.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Pratap Kaneria

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Respected RRji,

> >>

> >> I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in

Mithuna

> >> Lagna together

> > with Shani.

> >>

> >> Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly

always -- it

> >> makes the native

> > very cautious and even suspicious.' does not apply to me. So I

must be

> > the exception. I am

> > very easy going, lazy and always trusting. Actually I like to

trust

> > almost everyone until

> > proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting

nature, I

> > have lost a fortune via

> > investments in projects of friends and family and stock market.

Again

> > this may be an

> > example of how looking at just one planet is not adequate to come

to a

> > conclusion.

> >>

> >> My birth data is

> >> DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44

(Dhoraji,

> >> India)

> >>

> >> With Regards,

> >>

> >> Pratap

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> vijayamalur wrote:

> >> Dear sir

> >>

> >> I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna.

Infact i

> >> also have rahu in

> > lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

> >>

> >> Can you analyse my horoscope pls

> >>

> >> vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

> >>

> >> I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as

The

> >> latter would

> >> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

losing a

> >> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

loved ones.

> >> As it is i dont want

> > to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my family sir

> >>

> >> I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce

the ill

> >> effect of it

> >>

> >> eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

> >>

> >> best regards

> >>

> >> vijaya

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> -

> >> crystal pages

> >>

> >> Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> >> Re: Rahu in Lagna

> >>

> >>

> >> Dear Milind,

> >>

> >> Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

> >> Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding

mantras?

> >> Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get

fixed

> >> (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

> >>

> >> Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the

native

> >> very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that

the

> >> individuals do not get duped easily, at least not

materialistically,

> >> but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their

lifeplan

> >> but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter

would

> >> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

losing a

> >> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

loved ones.

> >>

> >> The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics

of

> >> that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes

offers

> >> the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not

always

> >> need a mantra or gemstone etc.

> >>

> >> Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your

data, I

> >> could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

> >> looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do

so and

> >> someone will pick up the thread.

> >>

> >> It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed

box! In

> >> the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles

and

> >> bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed

the

> >> window of our mind!

> >>

> >> RR

> >>

> >> , "padhyemilind2002"

> >>

> >> wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Hello

> >>> In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it

is

> >>> present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

> >>> enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other

planets

> >>> have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53

degrees

> >>> in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and

hence

> >> I

> >>> get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these

positions. Any

> >>> ideas?

> >>> Thanks

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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How intersting! I see that someone else has responded to the rahu in

1 or 2 issue so I will save bandwidth!

 

Just curious was there element of mistrust or suspicion between you

and your parents, perhaps mother or an auntie at some point in life?

Also with teachers or educational system perhaps?

 

Thanks

 

RR

 

, Pratap Kaneria

<pkaneria wrote:

>

> Respected RRji,

>

> I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in

Mithuna Lagna together with Shani.

>

> Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -

- it makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.' does not

apply to me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy going, lazy

and always trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone until

proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting nature,

I have lost a fortune via investments in projects of friends and

family and stock market. Again this may be an example of how looking

at just one planet is not adequate to come to a conclusion.

>

> My birth data is

> DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44

(Dhoraji, India)

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

>

>

>

>

>

> vijayamalur <vijayamalur wrote:

> Dear sir

>

> I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. Infact

i also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

>

> Can you analyse my horoscope pls

>

> vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

>

> I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as The

latter would

> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

losing a

> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved

ones. As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine

to my family sir

>

> I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce the

ill effect of it

>

> eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

>

> best regards

>

> vijaya

>

>

>

> -

> crystal pages

>

> Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

>

> Dear Milind,

>

> Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

> Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding

mantras?

> Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get

fixed

> (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

>

> Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the

native

> very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

> individuals do not get duped easily, at least not

materialistically,

> but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their

lifeplan

> but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter

would

> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

losing a

> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved

ones.

>

> The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

> that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes

offers

> the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not

always

> need a mantra or gemstone etc.

>

> Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your

data, I

> could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

> looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so

and

> someone will pick up the thread.

>

> It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box!

In

> the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles

and

> bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

> window of our mind!

>

> RR

>

> , "padhyemilind2002"

>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello

> > In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it

is

> > present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

> > enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other

planets

> > have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53

degrees

> > in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and

hence

> I

> > get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions.

Any

> > ideas?

> > Thanks

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear members,

 

My son born on July 12th1986, Chennai at 0140 am has rahu in mesha lagna. Is also presently running moon-Rahu period.

 

You may ask me for any details if so required for research, .

Regards,

Pradeep

 

 

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Saturday, July 01, 2006 5:19 AM

Re: Rahu in Lagna

 

 

How intersting! I see that someone else has responded to the rahu in

1 or 2 issue so I will save bandwidth!

 

Just curious was there element of mistrust or suspicion between you

and your parents, perhaps mother or an auntie at some point in life?

Also with teachers or educational system perhaps?

 

Thanks

 

RR

 

, Pratap Kaneria

<pkaneria wrote:

>

> Respected RRji,

>

> I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in

Mithuna Lagna together with Shani.

>

> Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -

- it makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.' does not

apply to me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy going, lazy

and always trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone until

proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting nature,

I have lost a fortune via investments in projects of friends and

family and stock market. Again this may be an example of how looking

at just one planet is not adequate to come to a conclusion.

>

> My birth data is

> DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44

(Dhoraji, India)

>

> With Regards,

>

> Pratap

>

>

>

>

>

>

> vijayamalur <vijayamalur wrote:

> Dear sir

>

> I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. Infact

i also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

>

> Can you analyse my horoscope pls

>

> vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

>

> I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as The

latter would

> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

losing a

> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved

ones. As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine

to my family sir

>

> I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce the

ill effect of it

>

> eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

>

> best regards

>

> vijaya

>

>

>

> -

> crystal pages

>

> Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> Re: Rahu in Lagna

>

>

> Dear Milind,

>

> Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

> Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding

mantras?

> Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get

fixed

> (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

>

> Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the

native

> very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

> individuals do not get duped easily, at least not

materialistically,

> but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their

lifeplan

> but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter

would

> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

losing a

> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved

ones.

>

> The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

> that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes

offers

> the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not

always

> need a mantra or gemstone etc.

>

> Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your

data, I

> could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

> looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so

and

> someone will pick up the thread.

>

> It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box!

In

> the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles

and

> bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

> window of our mind!

>

> RR

>

> , "padhyemilind2002"

>

> wrote:

> >

> > Hello

> > In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it

is

> > present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

> > enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other

planets

> > have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53

degrees

> > in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and

hence

> I

> > get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions.

Any

> > ideas?

> > Thanks

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

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strong rahu in lagna can also give a facial appearance that gives

darkish intense eyes with a somewhat rounded cheeks and chin. Chin

can be a bit receeding at times. The eyes look a bit 'cunning'

or "worldly". These are hard to describe. Ketu on the other hand

gives a forehead that resembles a cobra's hood. The eyes tend to be

deep and have a melancholy/emotional character to them. They are deep

and inviting-receiving. Rahu on the other hand gives eyes that are

somewhat 'cruel' or worldly and more projecting than receiving. I am

trying hard to translate observations into words, please understand.

 

A crude example, assuming the birth times are correct would be:

Amitabh Bachchan -- representative of ketu

Abhishek Bachchan -- representative of rahu

 

Using these two as example because a picture is worth a thousand

words!

 

RR

 

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Ranjan ji

>

> Yes, I tried to trace rahu's effects in first house in few

charts..It reflected cautious personality (though ambitious). I could

not check, if they trust easily or not.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> If you dislike someone, walk a mile in their shoes. You may still

hate them, but at least you're a mile away and you have their shoes.

>

>

> >

> > pkaneria

> > Fri, 30 Jun 2006 10:44:31 -0700 (PDT)

> >

> > Re: Re: Rahu in Lagna

> >

> > Hello Haizen,

> >

> > Can you please tell me which 2 programs you are using? I use

Jhora and

> > Lahiri ayanamsa and Lagna is Mithuna. Actually it was Vistiji who

> > corrected my birthtime to 20:38 from 20:40. But that time fails

the Kunda

> > rule.

> >

> > Yes. My birthtime was in wartime and there was a wartime

adjustment.

> > Howerer per Astro.com site (very reputable and a great site),

they make a

> > comment for my birthdate that wartime time adjustment was

followed only

> > in Europe and not in India. Still some other Indian software I

used in

> > past were applying wartime adjustment. I am really not sure what

is the

> > case.

> >

> > Based on my physical and mental characteristics as described by

several

> > different authors, there is a lingering doubt in my mind that

Taurus

> > lagna applies to me much better than Gemini.

> >

> > Because of all these, I have decided to learn birth time

rectification

> > and figure out my birth time once and for all, because after all

without

> > a precise birth time most of the readings of chart can not be

relied upon

> > with confidence. I would like to use some methods which are

> > deterministic and not subjective. I have found two such methods

so far.

> >

> > 1. Chandulal Patel in his book 'Navamsa in Astrology' page 144

and 145

> > refer to "Prasna Marga Chap V verse 8" and explains a method which

> > involves multiplying the Lagna-longitude and Moon-longitude by 81

and

> > then few more steps to come up a derived longitude which should be

> > idential for both Lagna and Moon if the birth time is correct.

Using this

> > method and a lots of trial and error (i.e check horoscope using

every

> > minute within Gemini lagna and do the calculations), I came up a

birth

> > time of 22:00:40.934 which gives a lagna of Gemini 29-50-8.55.

> >

> > 2. Then I read up on Kunda method. There is an excellent

article on the

> > web by Shri Visti Larsen on birth time rectification by Kunda

method.

> > Essence of the Kunda method is that Lagna rasi of D-81 chart must

be same

> > as the Lagna, 5th, 7th or 9th rasi in the D-1 chart. The time I

> > mentioned above is verified with the Kunda method.

> >

> > I am still not convinced so I am going to look for some more

> > confirmations by some other methods. Please recommend more

methods if you

> > know of them.

> >

> > With Regards,

> >

> > Pratap

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > haizen <haizen wrote:

> > Hello Pratap,

> >

> > I have been following this interesting thread and

> > thought I would calculate your chart for myself.

> > I've done so on two separate programs and come

> > up with *Vrishaba* as your ascendant, not Mithuna.

> > This places Rahu and Ketu in the 2nd and 8th--financial

> > houses--and 8L Jupiter at zero degrees in the 5H of

> > investment losses. Vrishaba would indicate your "very

> > easy going, lazy and always trusting" nature, rather than

> > Rahu and Shani. I do not see you as having a Mithuna lagna.

> > Please double check for daylight savings or war time

> > because I believe your chart is likely off by an hour and

> > giving you the wrong ascendant. Just one astrologer's

> > opinion, of course.

> >

> > Sincerely, Haizen Paige

> >

> > PS. Rahu on the cusp of the 2nd house under Rahu dasha

> > would explain some of your major financial losses.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Pratap Kaneria

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Respected RRji,

> >>

> >> I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in

Mithuna

> >> Lagna together

> > with Shani.

> >>

> >> Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly

always -- it

> >> makes the native

> > very cautious and even suspicious.' does not apply to me. So I

must be

> > the exception. I am

> > very easy going, lazy and always trusting. Actually I like to

trust

> > almost everyone until

> > proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting

nature, I

> > have lost a fortune via

> > investments in projects of friends and family and stock market.

Again

> > this may be an

> > example of how looking at just one planet is not adequate to come

to a

> > conclusion.

> >>

> >> My birth data is

> >> DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44

(Dhoraji,

> >> India)

> >>

> >> With Regards,

> >>

> >> Pratap

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> vijayamalur wrote:

> >> Dear sir

> >>

> >> I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna.

Infact i

> >> also have rahu in

> > lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

> >>

> >> Can you analyse my horoscope pls

> >>

> >> vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

> >>

> >> I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as

The

> >> latter would

> >> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

losing a

> >> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

loved ones.

> >> As it is i dont want

> > to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine to my family sir

> >>

> >> I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce

the ill

> >> effect of it

> >>

> >> eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

> >>

> >> best regards

> >>

> >> vijaya

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> -

> >> crystal pages

> >>

> >> Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> >> Re: Rahu in Lagna

> >>

> >>

> >> Dear Milind,

> >>

> >> Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

> >> Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding

mantras?

> >> Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get

fixed

> >> (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

> >>

> >> Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the

native

> >> very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that

the

> >> individuals do not get duped easily, at least not

materialistically,

> >> but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their

lifeplan

> >> but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter

would

> >> reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

losing a

> >> lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

loved ones.

> >>

> >> The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics

of

> >> that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes

offers

> >> the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not

always

> >> need a mantra or gemstone etc.

> >>

> >> Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your

data, I

> >> could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

> >> looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do

so and

> >> someone will pick up the thread.

> >>

> >> It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed

box! In

> >> the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles

and

> >> bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed

the

> >> window of our mind!

> >>

> >> RR

> >>

> >> , "padhyemilind2002"

> >>

> >> wrote:

> >>>

> >>> Hello

> >>> In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it

is

> >>> present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

> >>> enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other

planets

> >>> have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53

degrees

> >>> in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and

hence

> >> I

> >>> get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these

positions. Any

> >>> ideas?

> >>> Thanks

> >>>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

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, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

Dear members,

 

My son born on July 12th, 1986, Chennai at 0140 am has rahu in mesha

lagna. Is also presently running moon-Rahu period.

 

You may ask me for any details if so required,for research.

 

Regards,

Pradeep

 

 

 

 

 

 

> How intersting! I see that someone else has responded to the rahu in

> 1 or 2 issue so I will save bandwidth!

>

> Just curious was there element of mistrust or suspicion between you

> and your parents, perhaps mother or an auntie at some point in life?

> Also with teachers or educational system perhaps?

>

> Thanks

>

> RR

>

> , Pratap Kaneria

> <pkaneria@> wrote:

> >

> > Respected RRji,

> >

> > I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in

> Mithuna Lagna together with Shani.

> >

> > Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -

> - it makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.' does not

> apply to me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy going, lazy

> and always trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone until

> proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting nature,

> I have lost a fortune via investments in projects of friends and

> family and stock market. Again this may be an example of how looking

> at just one planet is not adequate to come to a conclusion.

> >

> > My birth data is

> > DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44

> (Dhoraji, India)

> >

> > With Regards,

> >

> > Pratap

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vijayamalur <vijayamalur@> wrote:

> > Dear sir

> >

> > I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna. Infact

> i also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

> >

> > Can you analyse my horoscope pls

> >

> > vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

> >

> > I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as The

> latter would

> > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

> losing a

> > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved

> ones. As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy of mine

> to my family sir

> >

> > I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce the

> ill effect of it

> >

> > eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

> >

> > best regards

> >

> > vijaya

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > crystal pages

> >

> > Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> > Re: Rahu in Lagna

> >

> >

> > Dear Milind,

> >

> > Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

> > Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding

> mantras?

> > Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get

> fixed

> > (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

> >

> > Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes the

> native

> > very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that the

> > individuals do not get duped easily, at least not

> materialistically,

> > but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their

> lifeplan

> > but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter

> would

> > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

> losing a

> > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and loved

> ones.

> >

> > The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The characteristics of

> > that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes

> offers

> > the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not

> always

> > need a mantra or gemstone etc.

> >

> > Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your

> data, I

> > could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are really

> > looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do so

> and

> > someone will pick up the thread.

> >

> > It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed box!

> In

> > the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad roles

> and

> > bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed the

> > window of our mind!

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , "padhyemilind2002"

> >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Hello

> > > In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever it

> is

> > > present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun is

> > > enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other

> planets

> > > have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53

> degrees

> > > in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position, and

> hence

> > I

> > > get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these positions.

> Any

> > > ideas?

> > > Thanks

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Mr. Pradeep,

 

I do not know why you are posting your personal query as if it was

posted by me using my earlier posted message!

 

Please do not do this!!

 

Use your own thread!!

 

RR

 

 

, "Pradeep" <psd1955

wrote:

>

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> Dear members,

>

> My son born on July 12th, 1986, Chennai at 0140 am has rahu in mesha

> lagna. Is also presently running moon-Rahu period.

>

> You may ask me for any details if so required,for research.

>

> Regards,

> Pradeep

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > How intersting! I see that someone else has responded to the rahu

in

> > 1 or 2 issue so I will save bandwidth!

> >

> > Just curious was there element of mistrust or suspicion between

you

> > and your parents, perhaps mother or an auntie at some point in

life?

> > Also with teachers or educational system perhaps?

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , Pratap Kaneria

> > <pkaneria@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Respected RRji,

> > >

> > > I am reading this thread with interest because I have Rahu in

> > Mithuna Lagna together with Shani.

> > >

> > > Your statement 'Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly

always -

> > - it makes the native very cautious and even suspicious.' does

not

> > apply to me. So I must be the exception. I am very easy going,

lazy

> > and always trusting. Actually I like to trust almost everyone

until

> > proven guilty. It is true though that because of my trusting

nature,

> > I have lost a fortune via investments in projects of friends and

> > family and stock market. Again this may be an example of how

looking

> > at just one planet is not adequate to come to a conclusion.

> > >

> > > My birth data is

> > > DOB: Nov 18, 1944, TOB: 20:38 (IST, -5.5), POB: 70E27, 21N44

> > (Dhoraji, India)

> > >

> > > With Regards,

> > >

> > > Pratap

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vijayamalur <vijayamalur@> wrote:

> > > Dear sir

> > >

> > > I was reading for the past few days abt Rahu being in lagna.

Infact

> > i also have rahu in lagna (ascendant) Mithuna lagna.

> > >

> > > Can you analyse my horoscope pls

> > >

> > > vijaya, 20th march 1964, krishnagiri, 12-30 pm (female)

> > >

> > > I am perturbed with the predictions u made for rahu in lagna as

The

> > latter would

> > > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

> > losing a

> > > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

loved

> > ones. As it is i dont want to pass on any kind of negativitiy of

mine

> > to my family sir

> > >

> > > I am sure you must have the remedy also to over come or reduce

the

> > ill effect of it

> > >

> > > eagerly anticipating ur favourable reply

> > >

> > > best regards

> > >

> > > vijaya

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > -

> > > crystal pages

> > >

> > > Tuesday, June 27, 2006 4:30 PM

> > > Re: Rahu in Lagna

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Milind,

> > >

> > > Please describe what problems this rahu of yours is creating?

> > > Please describe for my benefit what your belief is regarding

> > mantras?

> > > Were you planning to just start chanting it and rahu would get

> > fixed

> > > (assuming that it is broken in the first place?).

> > >

> > > Rahu in lagna does give one trait, nearly always -- it makes

the

> > native

> > > very cautious and even suspicious. The positive of this is that

the

> > > individuals do not get duped easily, at least not

> > materialistically,

> > > but over the years they tend to lose things that were in their

> > lifeplan

> > > but they were too busy looking over their shoulders. The latter

> > would

> > > reprepresent the worst-case in a sense as the nativity ends up

> > losing a

> > > lot and sometimes it spills into the lives of relatives and

loved

> > ones.

> > >

> > > The hint at times is the dispositor of rahu. The

characteristics of

> > > that planet do not get expressed naturally and that sometimes

> > offers

> > > the clue regarding what may need to be attended to and may not

> > always

> > > need a mantra or gemstone etc.

> > >

> > > Since you asked a very generic question and did not reveal your

> > data, I

> > > could not proceed. If you post your full data, if you are

really

> > > looking for an answer or some insight, you may still want to do

so

> > and

> > > someone will pick up the thread.

> > >

> > > It is unwise to pigeon-hole planets, any planets into a fixed

box!

> > In

> > > the mayavini drama of human experience, good guys play bad

roles

> > and

> > > bad guys sometimes surprise us -- as long as we have not closed

the

> > > window of our mind!

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , "padhyemilind2002"

> > >

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Hello

> > > > In my chart, Rahu is in Lagna, which envelopes Sun, wherever

it

> > is

> > > > present. Can this be remedied by any mantras etc.? Since Sun

is

> > > > enveloped, or overshadowed, what happens to the enmity other

> > planets

> > > > have with Sun? Does it have any effect? Also Mercury at 29.53

> > degrees

> > > > in 2nd, some say that it hangs between 2nd & 3rd position,

and

> > hence

> > > I

> > > > get neither good/bad effects Mercury has in both these

positions.

> > Any

> > > > ideas?

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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