black magic after doing lot of havan and jap why ? is it ?

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dear pandit arjun ji

is doing remedy of any tantric effect . we will have to do tamsik

kriyas and then it effect us in future . because if we cure a

tantrik problem from another tantrik method . it will be unnatural

or against the laws of god is it ? pandit ji please explain . and

also if some person had done our remedy saying that you have some

evil effects of any tantrik although our stars dasha is not good .

how we will differentiate ? and if he had done to remove the problem

cause by graha dont you think than that act will go against the law

of god ?

regards

, Neeraj Gupta

<gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote:

>

> ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

>

> Dear Prafulla,

>

> Kindly drop "Ji" after my name. You are correct, that

> some tantriks target small kids. Generally, in most of

> the cases it is our sins of past life that result in

> this.

>

> Praying to Lord Hanumana, Lord Shiva can ward of these

> evils. Also, there is a temple of Hanumana by name

> "Balaji" and people who have these kind of problems

> (black magic) go there and they are cured.

>

> Until and unless, there is a pressing need, one should

> not visit the tantrik as they do Taamasik rituals in

> which we do more sin. The effect of Saatwik remedies

> might not be immediate. Whereas I have seen people who

> practice taamasik rituals promising to do the thing

> you want in 24 to 48 hours. But that is only short

> term.

>

> Like for example, if one is injured in knee and cannot

> walk. If you give him strong pain killer and apply

> some very effective spray on his knee, he will not

> feel the pain (though the pain is there) and he may be

> able to walk (as he is not feeling pain). So, for

> short time, he will feel good. Afterwards, he will

> feel more pain, because he is strectching that part of

> body that needs rest, care, patience, healing.

>

> Similarly it is with our life. Do not apply temporary

> relief by taking powerful spray or pain killers

> (taamasik). Instead let it heal, pray, meditate,

> perform japam, mantra and it will go away after some

> time permanently.

>

> The above was just an example I took to explain

> Taamasik Vs. Saatwic remedies. For medical purposes or

> doctors advise, do not consider pain killers or sprays

> recommended by doctors as taamasik. They are medicines

> and should be taken as per doctor's advise. Please

> remember this was just an example to clarify the

> Taamasik vs. saatwic remedies.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neeraj

>

> --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

>

> > Dear Neeraj ji

> >

> > Many a times, a person has not done anything wrong

> > (say a small kid) -still these tantriks target some

> > of these kids to harm the natives. and I presume,

> > these can be resolved by competent person only; else

> > we are risking the life of native.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to

> > do is stop digging.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > gupta_neeraj_2000

> > > Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:46:08 -0700 (PDT)

> > >

> > > Re: black magic after doing lot of

> > havan and jap why ?

> > > Neeraj -- Please Explain!

> > >

> > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

> > >

> > > Hi,

> > >

> > > Here "Negative Energy" relates to the negative

> > forces

> > > such as those practised by Tantriks for bad deeds

> > > (Taamasic basically).

> > >

> > > I know a bit about black magic, as I studied a bit

> > of

> > > it. However, with God's grace and with the

> > suggestions

> > > of gurus, I came to know that though these taamsic

> > > remedies produce almost immediate results,

> > however,

> > > you end up doing bad karma, and you have to pay

> > later

> > > (i.e. after some time, you get into more trouble,

> > or

> > > the suffering is there in some way or another).

> > >

> > > Ok. Good question that Why negative energies

> > exist?

> > >

> > > To be honest and true, I do not know the real or

> > exact

> > > answer. But based on my little knowledge, I see

> > that

> > > the world, human being or anything in this world

> > has

> > > both negative and positive effects.

> > >

> > > Say, if there is no negativity, or no bad deeds,

> > then

> > > how you will differentiate between good and bad.

> > Some

> > > thing is cold and the other is hot. In every yuga,

> > you

> > > will find that negative energies do exist and

> > people

> > > do taamsic things and the same is balanced by the

> > > saatwic energy. Take it to anything hot vs. cold

> > (some

> > > places are hot, while other are cold), some are

> > dry

> > > (desserts) while some areas get more rain. There

> > are

> > > some bad people who do all kinds of wrong things

> > and

> > > similarly there are pious people, sattwic people

> > who

> > > do good deeds, help others etc.

> > >

> > > Like it is said that in the army of Shiva, there

> > are

> > > lots of Ghosts, pischaach, etc which we consider

> > as

> > > negative energies. Hence, if any native is under

> > the

> > > influence of such evil forces, it is advised to

> > > worship lord shiva.

> > >

> > > There was a story of Lord Shiva, in which her wife

> > > (Shri Gauri) goes to her home and after hearing

> > some

> > > wrong words against lord shiva, she offers herself

> > to

> > > fire and the destruction at that place is done by

> > the

> > > army of lord shiva (bhoot, pret, pischaach etc.)

> > So in

> > > order to punish the wrong people, this is also a

> > kind

> > > of force which is used by Lord Shiva, when he is

> > > angry. (This force is used very rarely, so not

> > much

> > > people experience it)

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Neeraj

> > >

> > >

> > > PR: For the family who is affected by the black

> > magic,

> > > please check, if the last rights of your ancestors

> > has

> > > been done properly (specially, if somebody has

> > died in

> > > past some years). Also think and check if you have

> > > hurted someone (knowingly or unknowingly) in past

> > and

> > > do the needful accordingly. Negative energies will

> > not

> > > come by themselves without any reason to harm you.

> > > Generally our past mistakes and sins make them

> > happen.

> > > "Hare Rama Krishna" is also good mantra for any

> > > bondages.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > --- crystal pages <jyotish_vani

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >> Dear Neeraj (others too!),

> > >>

> > >> Please Explain --

> > >>

> > >> Negative energy!

> > >>

> > >> Why does 'Baba' allow that kind of energy to

> > exist?

> > >>

> > >> RR

> > >>

> > >> , Neeraj

> > >> Gupta

> > >> <gupta_neeraj_2000@> wrote:

> > >>>

> > >>> Hi,

> > >>>

> > >>> Try wearing rudraksha (five faced) round the

> > neck

> > >> and

> > >>> do maha mrityunjay daily. I have read that no

> > >> negative

> > >>> energy can pass through rudraksha as it is

> > >> governed by

> > >>> lord shiva.

> > >>>

> > >>> Regards,

> > >>>

> > >>> Neeraj

> > >>>

> > >>> --- shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro@>

> > >>> wrote:

> > >>>

> > >>>>

> > >> .HARE

> > >>>> RAM.

> > >>>> Dear Mr.Sidhartha,

> > >>>> In fact your question have some logic and i

> > do

> > >>>> appriciate you but please try to understand

> > >>>> deeply.All the retiuals,performing by this

> > >> family

> > >>>> are the part of their sprituality not the

> > >> remedy.A

> > >>>> person do try to make him fit through

> > >>>> exercises,taking controlled diets etc even than

> > >> if

> > >>>> he become ill than he will have to take the

> > >>>> medicines prescribed by the doctor for the

> > exact

> > >>>> problem.So this is the same case hear.

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Shashie Shekhar

> > >>>> Mobile-09818310075

> > >>>> Delhi

> > >>>>

> > >>>> sidhartha022 <sidhartha022@> wrote:

> > >>>> dear friends

> > >>>> but i know a person who do lot of jap and in

> > his

> > >>>> house lot of havan

> > >>>> will be done . every year he take a dip in maa

> > >>>> ganga. he is a

> > >>>> brahmin . always remain in close contact with

> > >>>> brahmans . his son and

> > >>>> wife are also very religios and a brahmin

> > >> family.

> > >>>> they do lot of

> > >>>> havan mantra and sadhana .they visited lot of

> > >>>> tiurthas and dham also

> > >>>> very good and kind to all still there is lot of

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

dear friend siddhartha

 

let me explain this concept in simple language for the understanding

of all.

 

lord brahma writes the fate of all humans (destiny) and in the base

case scenario, the entire life of the natives goes as per destiny.

 

however, gods, sages and even tantriks have the power (divine

energy) with which they can give a boon or blessing. this you can

say best case scenario under which even though the native has to

suffer for long, due to the blessings or grace showered by a god or

godly person, the native enjoys a happy life. similarly in the

worst case scenario, even when the native is going all guns very

happily, if he receives a curse from a god or get an evil spell from

a godly person, it would be the worst case scenario.

 

the god or godly person's blessing or grace comes only by worships,

penance and doing more good karmas, this way it is somewhat linked

to karma siddhanta. however, in the worst case where the native

receives a curse or suffering which was not destined, it is of two

reasons. one the native insults the god or godly men and get their

wrath in the form of a curse in which case karma siddhanta again

works. but in the second case, a godly person gives a curse or cast

an evil spell at the instigation of the native's enemies who are

close to these people and in granting a boon to them, vicariously,

he is giving a curse or casting bad spell for the native. in both

good and bad cases, the energy of the person who gives boon or curse

is lost and he does his meditations again to regain the lost

strength. here the entire responsibility of the karma phal goes to

the doer i.e. the godly person and not the suffering native.

 

even gods do this mistake of inflicting harm to a noble person at

times by granting a boon to another. there are many such examples,

once hen sage gautam was falsely given a curse for killing a cow

even when in reality he was feeding and worshipping the cows.

 

with best wishes

pandit arjun

 

, "sidhartha022"

<sidhartha022 wrote:

>

> dear pandit arjun ji

> is doing remedy of any tantric effect . we will have to do tamsik

> kriyas and then it effect us in future . because if we cure a

> tantrik problem from another tantrik method . it will be unnatural

> or against the laws of god is it ? pandit ji please explain . and

> also if some person had done our remedy saying that you have some

> evil effects of any tantrik although our stars dasha is not good .

> how we will differentiate ? and if he had done to remove the

problem

> cause by graha dont you think than that act will go against the

law

> of god ?

> regards

>

> , Neeraj Gupta

> <gupta_neeraj_2000@> wrote:

> >

> > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

> >

> > Dear Prafulla,

> >

> > Kindly drop "Ji" after my name. You are correct, that

> > some tantriks target small kids. Generally, in most of

> > the cases it is our sins of past life that result in

> > this.

> >

> > Praying to Lord Hanumana, Lord Shiva can ward of these

> > evils. Also, there is a temple of Hanumana by name

> > "Balaji" and people who have these kind of problems

> > (black magic) go there and they are cured.

> >

> > Until and unless, there is a pressing need, one should

> > not visit the tantrik as they do Taamasik rituals in

> > which we do more sin. The effect of Saatwik remedies

> > might not be immediate. Whereas I have seen people who

> > practice taamasik rituals promising to do the thing

> > you want in 24 to 48 hours. But that is only short

> > term.

> >

> > Like for example, if one is injured in knee and cannot

> > walk. If you give him strong pain killer and apply

> > some very effective spray on his knee, he will not

> > feel the pain (though the pain is there) and he may be

> > able to walk (as he is not feeling pain). So, for

> > short time, he will feel good. Afterwards, he will

> > feel more pain, because he is strectching that part of

> > body that needs rest, care, patience, healing.

> >

> > Similarly it is with our life. Do not apply temporary

> > relief by taking powerful spray or pain killers

> > (taamasik). Instead let it heal, pray, meditate,

> > perform japam, mantra and it will go away after some

> > time permanently.

> >

> > The above was just an example I took to explain

> > Taamasik Vs. Saatwic remedies. For medical purposes or

> > doctors advise, do not consider pain killers or sprays

> > recommended by doctors as taamasik. They are medicines

> > and should be taken as per doctor's advise. Please

> > remember this was just an example to clarify the

> > Taamasik vs. saatwic remedies.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj

> >

> > --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Neeraj ji

> > >

> > > Many a times, a person has not done anything wrong

> > > (say a small kid) -still these tantriks target some

> > > of these kids to harm the natives. and I presume,

> > > these can be resolved by competent person only; else

> > > we are risking the life of native.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> > > If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing to

> > > do is stop digging.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > gupta_neeraj_2000@

> > > > Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:46:08 -0700 (PDT)

> > > >

> > > > Re: black magic after doing lot of

> > > havan and jap why ?

> > > > Neeraj -- Please Explain!

> > > >

> > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > Here "Negative Energy" relates to the negative

> > > forces

> > > > such as those practised by Tantriks for bad deeds

> > > > (Taamasic basically).

> > > >

> > > > I know a bit about black magic, as I studied a bit

> > > of

> > > > it. However, with God's grace and with the

> > > suggestions

> > > > of gurus, I came to know that though these taamsic

> > > > remedies produce almost immediate results,

> > > however,

> > > > you end up doing bad karma, and you have to pay

> > > later

> > > > (i.e. after some time, you get into more trouble,

> > > or

> > > > the suffering is there in some way or another).

> > > >

> > > > Ok. Good question that Why negative energies

> > > exist?

> > > >

> > > > To be honest and true, I do not know the real or

> > > exact

> > > > answer. But based on my little knowledge, I see

> > > that

> > > > the world, human being or anything in this world

> > > has

> > > > both negative and positive effects.

> > > >

> > > > Say, if there is no negativity, or no bad deeds,

> > > then

> > > > how you will differentiate between good and bad.

> > > Some

> > > > thing is cold and the other is hot. In every yuga,

> > > you

> > > > will find that negative energies do exist and

> > > people

> > > > do taamsic things and the same is balanced by the

> > > > saatwic energy. Take it to anything hot vs. cold

> > > (some

> > > > places are hot, while other are cold), some are

> > > dry

> > > > (desserts) while some areas get more rain. There

> > > are

> > > > some bad people who do all kinds of wrong things

> > > and

> > > > similarly there are pious people, sattwic people

> > > who

> > > > do good deeds, help others etc.

> > > >

> > > > Like it is said that in the army of Shiva, there

> > > are

> > > > lots of Ghosts, pischaach, etc which we consider

> > > as

> > > > negative energies. Hence, if any native is under

> > > the

> > > > influence of such evil forces, it is advised to

> > > > worship lord shiva.

> > > >

> > > > There was a story of Lord Shiva, in which her wife

> > > > (Shri Gauri) goes to her home and after hearing

> > > some

> > > > wrong words against lord shiva, she offers herself

> > > to

> > > > fire and the destruction at that place is done by

> > > the

> > > > army of lord shiva (bhoot, pret, pischaach etc.)

> > > So in

> > > > order to punish the wrong people, this is also a

> > > kind

> > > > of force which is used by Lord Shiva, when he is

> > > > angry. (This force is used very rarely, so not

> > > much

> > > > people experience it)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Neeraj

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > PR: For the family who is affected by the black

> > > magic,

> > > > please check, if the last rights of your ancestors

> > > has

> > > > been done properly (specially, if somebody has

> > > died in

> > > > past some years). Also think and check if you have

> > > > hurted someone (knowingly or unknowingly) in past

> > > and

> > > > do the needful accordingly. Negative energies will

> > > not

> > > > come by themselves without any reason to harm you.

> > > > Generally our past mistakes and sins make them

> > > happen.

> > > > "Hare Rama Krishna" is also good mantra for any

> > > > bondages.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- crystal pages <jyotish_vani@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > >> Dear Neeraj (others too!),

> > > >>

> > > >> Please Explain --

> > > >>

> > > >> Negative energy!

> > > >>

> > > >> Why does 'Baba' allow that kind of energy to

> > > exist?

> > > >>

> > > >> RR

> > > >>

> > > >> , Neeraj

> > > >> Gupta

> > > >> <gupta_neeraj_2000@> wrote:

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Hi,

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Try wearing rudraksha (five faced) round the

> > > neck

> > > >> and

> > > >>> do maha mrityunjay daily. I have read that no

> > > >> negative

> > > >>> energy can pass through rudraksha as it is

> > > >> governed by

> > > >>> lord shiva.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Regards,

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Neeraj

> > > >>>

> > > >>> --- shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro@>

> > > >>> wrote:

> > > >>>

> > > >>>>

> > > >> .HARE

> > > >>>> RAM.

> > > >>>> Dear Mr.Sidhartha,

> > > >>>> In fact your question have some logic and i

> > > do

> > > >>>> appriciate you but please try to understand

> > > >>>> deeply.All the retiuals,performing by this

> > > >> family

> > > >>>> are the part of their sprituality not the

> > > >> remedy.A

> > > >>>> person do try to make him fit through

> > > >>>> exercises,taking controlled diets etc even than

> > > >> if

> > > >>>> he become ill than he will have to take the

> > > >>>> medicines prescribed by the doctor for the

> > > exact

> > > >>>> problem.So this is the same case hear.

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> Shashie Shekhar

> > > >>>> Mobile-09818310075

> > > >>>> Delhi

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> sidhartha022 <sidhartha022@> wrote:

> > > >>>> dear friends

> > > >>>> but i know a person who do lot of jap and in

> > > his

> > > >>>> house lot of havan

> > > >>>> will be done . every year he take a dip in maa

> > > >>>> ganga. he is a

> > > >>>> brahmin . always remain in close contact with

> > > >>>> brahmans . his son and

> > > >>>> wife are also very religios and a brahmin

> > > >> family.

> > > >>>> they do lot of

> > > >>>> havan mantra and sadhana .they visited lot of

> > > >>>> tiurthas and dham also

> > > >>>> very good and kind to all still there is lot of

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

~ Om Namo Narayanaaya ~

 

Dear Sidhartha,

 

Protecting ourselves is not Tamasik. One needs to

understand the difference between Taamasik, Raajasic

and Saatwic nature.

 

Like take example of Lord Ravana, He took Shri Sita Ji

to Lanka (it was a taamsic act). Shri Ram Killed

Ravana and other daemons, it was saatwic act. He is

fighting for the right (so though killing is taamasic,

but in this context it was a saatwic act).

 

Also, if we take example of Maha-Bharata, Arjun does

not want to attack because he thinks, he will be

harming / killing his own people. Shri Krishna then

explains him that it is not that he is killing the

people, it is the lord himself (me) who is killing and

that was a saatwic thing. God himself guided him to

kill them. Though the Arjun is the medium, the

destruction is taken place by the will of GOD.

 

I hope, this is bit clearer. Though difficult to

understand, it can be understood with time and

studying sacred literature.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj

 

--- sidhartha022 <sidhartha022 > wrote:

 

> dear pandit arjun ji

> is doing remedy of any tantric effect . we will have

> to do tamsik

> kriyas and then it effect us in future . because if

> we cure a

> tantrik problem from another tantrik method . it

> will be unnatural

> or against the laws of god is it ? pandit ji please

> explain . and

> also if some person had done our remedy saying that

> you have some

> evil effects of any tantrik although our stars dasha

> is not good .

> how we will differentiate ? and if he had done to

> remove the problem

> cause by graha dont you think than that act will go

> against the law

> of god ?

> regards

>

> , Neeraj

> Gupta

> <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote:

> >

> > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

> >

> > Dear Prafulla,

> >

> > Kindly drop "Ji" after my name. You are correct,

> that

> > some tantriks target small kids. Generally, in

> most of

> > the cases it is our sins of past life that result

> in

> > this.

> >

> > Praying to Lord Hanumana, Lord Shiva can ward of

> these

> > evils. Also, there is a temple of Hanumana by name

> > "Balaji" and people who have these kind of

> problems

> > (black magic) go there and they are cured.

> >

> > Until and unless, there is a pressing need, one

> should

> > not visit the tantrik as they do Taamasik rituals

> in

> > which we do more sin. The effect of Saatwik

> remedies

> > might not be immediate. Whereas I have seen people

> who

> > practice taamasik rituals promising to do the

> thing

> > you want in 24 to 48 hours. But that is only short

> > term.

> >

> > Like for example, if one is injured in knee and

> cannot

> > walk. If you give him strong pain killer and apply

> > some very effective spray on his knee, he will not

> > feel the pain (though the pain is there) and he

> may be

> > able to walk (as he is not feeling pain). So, for

> > short time, he will feel good. Afterwards, he will

> > feel more pain, because he is strectching that

> part of

> > body that needs rest, care, patience, healing.

> >

> > Similarly it is with our life. Do not apply

> temporary

> > relief by taking powerful spray or pain killers

> > (taamasik). Instead let it heal, pray, meditate,

> > perform japam, mantra and it will go away after

> some

> > time permanently.

> >

> > The above was just an example I took to explain

> > Taamasik Vs. Saatwic remedies. For medical

> purposes or

> > doctors advise, do not consider pain killers or

> sprays

> > recommended by doctors as taamasik. They are

> medicines

> > and should be taken as per doctor's advise. Please

> > remember this was just an example to clarify the

> > Taamasik vs. saatwic remedies.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj

> >

> > --- Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Neeraj ji

> > >

> > > Many a times, a person has not done anything

> wrong

> > > (say a small kid) -still these tantriks target

> some

> > > of these kids to harm the natives. and I

> presume,

> > > these can be resolved by competent person only;

> else

> > > we are risking the life of native.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> > > If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing

> to

> > > do is stop digging.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > gupta_neeraj_2000

> > > > Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:46:08 -0700 (PDT)

> > > >

> > > > Re: black magic after doing lot

> of

> > > havan and jap why ?

> > > > Neeraj -- Please Explain!

> > > >

> > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > Here "Negative Energy" relates to the negative

> > > forces

> > > > such as those practised by Tantriks for bad

> deeds

> > > > (Taamasic basically).

> > > >

> > > > I know a bit about black magic, as I studied a

> bit

> > > of

> > > > it. However, with God's grace and with the

> > > suggestions

> > > > of gurus, I came to know that though these

> taamsic

> > > > remedies produce almost immediate results,

> > > however,

> > > > you end up doing bad karma, and you have to

> pay

> > > later

> > > > (i.e. after some time, you get into more

> trouble,

> > > or

> > > > the suffering is there in some way or

> another).

> > > >

> > > > Ok. Good question that Why negative energies

> > > exist?

> > > >

> > > > To be honest and true, I do not know the real

> or

> > > exact

> > > > answer. But based on my little knowledge, I

> see

> > > that

> > > > the world, human being or anything in this

> world

> > > has

> > > > both negative and positive effects.

> > > >

> > > > Say, if there is no negativity, or no bad

> deeds,

> > > then

> > > > how you will differentiate between good and

> bad.

> > > Some

> > > > thing is cold and the other is hot. In every

> yuga,

> > > you

> > > > will find that negative energies do exist and

> > > people

> > > > do taamsic things and the same is balanced by

> the

> > > > saatwic energy. Take it to anything hot vs.

> cold

> > > (some

> > > > places are hot, while other are cold), some

> are

> > > dry

> > > > (desserts) while some areas get more rain.

> There

> > > are

> > > > some bad people who do all kinds of wrong

> things

> > > and

> > > > similarly there are pious people, sattwic

> people

> > > who

> > > > do good deeds, help others etc.

> > > >

> > > > Like it is said that in the army of Shiva,

> there

> > > are

> > > > lots of Ghosts, pischaach, etc which we

> consider

> > > as

> > > > negative energies. Hence, if any native is

> under

>

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[Guest guest]

.HARE RAM.

Dear Neeraj,

This was the duty of Lord Ram and Arjun.There is no concern of both illustrations regarding Saatwic.Raajsic or Taamsik.Protecting ourselves is not always Saatwic or Raajsic.

Shashie Shekhar

Mobile-09818310075

 

Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 > wrote:

~ Om Namo Narayanaaya ~

 

Dear Sidhartha,

 

Protecting ourselves is not Tamasik. One needs to

understand the difference between Taamasik, Raajasic

and Saatwic nature.

 

Like take example of Lord Ravana, He took Shri Sita Ji

to Lanka (it was a taamsic act). Shri Ram Killed

Ravana and other daemons, it was saatwic act. He is

fighting for the right (so though killing is taamasic,

but in this context it was a saatwic act).

 

Also, if we take example of Maha-Bharata, Arjun does

not want to attack because he thinks, he will be

harming / killing his own people. Shri Krishna then

explains him that it is not that he is killing the

people, it is the lord himself (me) who is killing and

that was a saatwic thing. God himself guided him to

kill them. Though the Arjun is the medium, the

destruction is taken place by the will of GOD.

 

I hope, this is bit clearer. Though difficult to

understand, it can be understood with time and

studying sacred literature.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj

 

--- sidhartha022 wrote:

 

> dear pandit arjun ji

> is doing remedy of any tantric effect . we will have

> to do tamsik

> kriyas and then it effect us in future . because if

> we cure a

> tantrik problem from another tantrik method . it

> will be unnatural

> or against the laws of god is it ? pandit ji please

> explain . and

> also if some person had done our remedy saying that

> you have some

> evil effects of any tantrik although our stars dasha

> is not good .

> how we will differentiate ? and if he had done to

> remove the problem

> cause by graha dont you think than that act will go

> against the law

> of god ?

> regards

>

> , Neeraj

> Gupta

> wrote:

> >

> > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

> >

> > Dear Prafulla,

> >

> > Kindly drop "Ji" after my name. You are correct,

> that

> > some tantriks target small kids. Generally, in

> most of

> > the cases it is our sins of past life that result

> in

> > this.

> >

> > Praying to Lord Hanumana, Lord Shiva can ward of

> these

> > evils. Also, there is a temple of Hanumana by name

> > "Balaji" and people who have these kind of

> problems

> > (black magic) go there and they are cured.

> >

> > Until and unless, there is a pressing need, one

> should

> > not visit the tantrik as they do Taamasik rituals

> in

> > which we do more sin. The effect of Saatwik

> remedies

> > might not be immediate. Whereas I have seen people

> who

> > practice taamasik rituals promising to do the

> thing

> > you want in 24 to 48 hours. But that is only short

> > term.

> >

> > Like for example, if one is injured in knee and

> cannot

> > walk. If you give him strong pain killer and apply

> > some very effective spray on his knee, he will not

> > feel the pain (though the pain is there) and he

> may be

> > able to walk (as he is not feeling pain). So, for

> > short time, he will feel good. Afterwards, he will

> > feel more pain, because he is strectching that

> part of

> > body that needs rest, care, patience, healing.

> >

> > Similarly it is with our life. Do not apply

> temporary

> > relief by taking powerful spray or pain killers

> > (taamasik). Instead let it heal, pray, meditate,

> > perform japam, mantra and it will go away after

> some

> > time permanently.

> >

> > The above was just an example I took to explain

> > Taamasik Vs. Saatwic remedies. For medical

> purposes or

> > doctors advise, do not consider pain killers or

> sprays

> > recommended by doctors as taamasik. They are

> medicines

> > and should be taken as per doctor's advise. Please

> > remember this was just an example to clarify the

> > Taamasik vs. saatwic remedies.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj

> >

> > --- Prafulla Gang wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Neeraj ji

> > >

> > > Many a times, a person has not done anything

> wrong

> > > (say a small kid) -still these tantriks target

> some

> > > of these kids to harm the natives. and I

> presume,

> > > these can be resolved by competent person only;

> else

> > > we are risking the life of native.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> > > If you find yourself in a hole, the first thing

> to

> > > do is stop digging.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > gupta_neeraj_2000

> > > > Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:46:08 -0700 (PDT)

> > > >

> > > > Re: black magic after doing lot

> of

> > > havan and jap why ?

> > > > Neeraj -- Please Explain!

> > > >

> > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

> > > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > Here "Negative Energy" relates to the negative

> > > forces

> > > > such as those practised by Tantriks for bad

> deeds

> > > > (Taamasic basically).

> > > >

> > > > I know a bit about black magic, as I studied a

> bit

> > > of

> > > > it. However, with God's grace and with the

> > > suggestions

> > > > of gurus, I came to know that though these

> taamsic

> > > > remedies produce almost immediate results,

> > > however,

> > > > you end up doing bad karma, and you have to

> pay

> > > later

> > > > (i.e. after some time, you get into more

> trouble,

> > > or

> > > > the suffering is there in some way or

> another).

> > > >

> > > > Ok. Good question that Why negative energies

> > > exist?

> > > >

> > > > To be honest and true, I do not know the real

> or

> > > exact

> > > > answer. But based on my little knowledge, I

> see

> > > that

> > > > the world, human being or anything in this

> world

> > > has

> > > > both negative and positive effects.

> > > >

> > > > Say, if there is no negativity, or no bad

> deeds,

> > > then

> > > > how you will differentiate between good and

> bad.

> > > Some

> > > > thing is cold and the other is hot. In every

> yuga,

> > > you

> > > > will find that negative energies do exist and

> > > people

> > > > do taamsic things and the same is balanced by

> the

> > > > saatwic energy. Take it to anything hot vs.

> cold

> > > (some

> > > > places are hot, while other are cold), some

> are

> > > dry

> > > > (desserts) while some areas get more rain.

> There

> > > are

> > > > some bad people who do all kinds of wrong

> things

> > > and

> > > > similarly there are pious people, sattwic

> people

> > > who

> > > > do good deeds, help others etc.

> > > >

> > > > Like it is said that in the army of Shiva,

> there

> > > are

> > > > lots of Ghosts, pischaach, etc which we

> consider

> > > as

> > > > negative energies. Hence, if any native is

> under

>

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SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

[Guest guest]

Dear Shashi,

 

Yes you are right. Protecting ourselves is not always

Saatwic or Rajasic. It depends upon the circumstances.

When there is no self interest or passion and one is

doing good deed it is saatwic, if passion comes or if

there is self interest, it may become Raajasic (again

depends upon karma and other circumstances).

 

Narsimha Ji's book "An Integrated approach to vedic

astrology" has a beautiful example regarding Saatwic,

Rajasik and tamasik guna.

 

Regards,

 

Neeraj

--- shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro >

wrote:

 

> .HARE

> RAM.

> Dear Neeraj,

> This was the duty of Lord Ram and Arjun.There is

> no concern of both illustrations regarding

> Saatwic.Raajsic or Taamsik.Protecting ourselves is

> not always Saatwic or Raajsic.

>

> Shashie Shekhar

> Mobile-09818310075

>

>

> Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 > wrote:

> ~ Om Namo Narayanaaya ~

>

> Dear Sidhartha,

>

> Protecting ourselves is not Tamasik. One needs to

> understand the difference between Taamasik, Raajasic

> and Saatwic nature.

>

> Like take example of Lord Ravana, He took Shri Sita

> Ji

> to Lanka (it was a taamsic act). Shri Ram Killed

> Ravana and other daemons, it was saatwic act. He is

> fighting for the right (so though killing is

> taamasic,

> but in this context it was a saatwic act).

>

> Also, if we take example of Maha-Bharata, Arjun does

> not want to attack because he thinks, he will be

> harming / killing his own people. Shri Krishna then

> explains him that it is not that he is killing the

> people, it is the lord himself (me) who is killing

> and

> that was a saatwic thing. God himself guided him to

> kill them. Though the Arjun is the medium, the

> destruction is taken place by the will of GOD.

>

> I hope, this is bit clearer. Though difficult to

> understand, it can be understood with time and

> studying sacred literature.

>

> Regards,

>

> Neeraj

>

> --- sidhartha022 wrote:

>

> > dear pandit arjun ji

> > is doing remedy of any tantric effect . we will

> have

> > to do tamsik

> > kriyas and then it effect us in future . because

> if

> > we cure a

> > tantrik problem from another tantrik method . it

> > will be unnatural

> > or against the laws of god is it ? pandit ji

> please

> > explain . and

> > also if some person had done our remedy saying

> that

> > you have some

> > evil effects of any tantrik although our stars

> dasha

> > is not good .

> > how we will differentiate ? and if he had done to

> > remove the problem

> > cause by graha dont you think than that act will

> go

> > against the law

> > of god ?

> > regards

> >

> > , Neeraj

> > Gupta

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

> > >

> > > Dear Prafulla,

> > >

> > > Kindly drop "Ji" after my name. You are correct,

> > that

> > > some tantriks target small kids. Generally, in

> > most of

> > > the cases it is our sins of past life that

> result

> > in

> > > this.

> > >

> > > Praying to Lord Hanumana, Lord Shiva can ward of

> > these

> > > evils. Also, there is a temple of Hanumana by

> name

> > > "Balaji" and people who have these kind of

> > problems

> > > (black magic) go there and they are cured.

> > >

> > > Until and unless, there is a pressing need, one

> > should

> > > not visit the tantrik as they do Taamasik

> rituals

> > in

> > > which we do more sin. The effect of Saatwik

> > remedies

> > > might not be immediate. Whereas I have seen

> people

> > who

> > > practice taamasik rituals promising to do the

> > thing

> > > you want in 24 to 48 hours. But that is only

> short

> > > term.

> > >

> > > Like for example, if one is injured in knee and

> > cannot

> > > walk. If you give him strong pain killer and

> apply

> > > some very effective spray on his knee, he will

> not

> > > feel the pain (though the pain is there) and he

> > may be

> > > able to walk (as he is not feeling pain). So,

> for

> > > short time, he will feel good. Afterwards, he

> will

> > > feel more pain, because he is strectching that

> > part of

> > > body that needs rest, care, patience, healing.

> > >

> > > Similarly it is with our life. Do not apply

> > temporary

> > > relief by taking powerful spray or pain killers

> > > (taamasik). Instead let it heal, pray, meditate,

> > > perform japam, mantra and it will go away after

> > some

> > > time permanently.

> > >

> > > The above was just an example I took to explain

> > > Taamasik Vs. Saatwic remedies. For medical

> > purposes or

> > > doctors advise, do not consider pain killers or

> > sprays

> > > recommended by doctors as taamasik. They are

> > medicines

> > > and should be taken as per doctor's advise.

> Please

> > > remember this was just an example to clarify the

> > > Taamasik vs. saatwic remedies.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Neeraj

> > >

> > > --- Prafulla Gang wrote:

> > >

> > > > Dear Neeraj ji

> > > >

> > > > Many a times, a person has not done anything

> > wrong

> > > > (say a small kid) -still these tantriks target

> > some

> > > > of these kids to harm the natives. and I

> > presume,

> > > > these can be resolved by competent person

> only;

> > else

> > > > we are risking the life of native.

> > > >

> > > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >

> > > > If you find yourself in a hole, the first

> thing

> > to

> > > > do is stop digging.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > gupta_neeraj_2000

> > > > > Sat, 24 Jun 2006 04:46:08 -0700 (PDT)

> > > > >

> > > > > Re: black magic after doing

> lot

> > of

> > > > havan and jap why ?

> > > > > Neeraj -- Please Explain!

> > > > >

> > > > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi,

> > > > >

> > > > > Here "Negative Energy" relates to the

> negative

> > > > forces

> > > > > such as those practised by Tantriks for bad

> > deeds

> > > > > (Taamasic basically).

> > > > >

> > > > > I know a bit about black magic, as I studied

> a

>

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