Lord Brahma

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Satsvarupa: But Lord Brahma, he's a prajapati.

Prabhupada: He is the chief prajapati.

Satsvarupa: Isn't he a pure devotee?

Prabhupada: No.

Satsvarupa: And yet he composed the Brahma-samhita.

Prabhupada: Yes, he is devotee, not to the topmost extent.

Tamala Krsna: Sometimes we hear that Lord Brahma incarnated as Thakura

Haridasa.

Prabhupada: Yes.

Satsvarupa: Sometimes devotees say, "Then how come he's the head of our

sampradaya if he's not a pure devotee?"

Prabhupada: It doesn't require. He is a devotee. That's all right. There are

grades of devotee, but on the whole, a devotee is very exalted person. Just

like gopis. Nobody can be compared with the gopis. There are so many grades

of devotees, but they are ultimate. And amongst the gopis, Radharani. So

there is no comparison, no more... Even Krsna is defeated there. Krsna

became Caitanya Mahaprabhu to understand the devotion of Radharani. That is

Caitanya Mahaprabhu.

 

Morning Walk -- July 1, 1975, Denver

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SB 3.12.28

TEXT 28

TEXT

vac& duihTar& TaNvq& SvYaM>aUhRrTaq& MaNa" )

Ak-aMaa& ck-Mae +ata" Sak-aMa wiTa Na" é[uTaMa( )) 28 ))

väcaà duhitaraà tanvéà

svayambhür haratéà manaù

akämäà cakame kñattaù

sa-käma iti naù çrutam

SYNONYMS

väcam—Väk; duhitaram—unto the daughter; tanvém—born of his body; svayambhüù—

Brahmä; haratém—attracting; manaù—his mind; akämäm—without being sexually

inclined; cakame—desired; kñattaù—O Vidura; sa-kämaù—being sexually inclined;

iti—thus; naù—we; çrutam—have heard.

TRANSLATION

O Vidura, we have heard that Brahmä had a daughter named Väk who was born

from his body and who attracted his mind toward sex, although she was not

sexually inclined towards him.

PURPORT

Balavän indriya-grämo vidväàsam api karñati (SB 9.19.17). It is said that the

senses are so mad and strong that they can bewilder even the most sensible

and learned man. Therefore it is advised that one should not indulge in living

alone even with one's mother, sister or daughter. Vidväàsam api karñati means

that even the most learned also become victims of the sensuous urge. Maitreya

hesitated to state this anomaly on the part of Brahmä, who was sexually

inclined to his own daughter, but still he mentioned it because sometimes it so

 

happens, and the living example is Brahmä himself, although he is the primeval

living being and the most learned within the whole universe. If Brahmä could be

a

victim of the sexual urge, then what of others, who are prone to so many

mundane frailties? This extraordinary immortality on the part of Brahmä was

heard

to have occurred in some particular kalpa, but it could not have happened in

the kalpa in which Brahmä heard directly from the Lord the four essential

verses

of Çrémad-Bhägavatam because the Lord blessed Brahmä, after giving him

lessons on the Bhägavatam, that he would never be bewildered in any kalpa

whatsoever. This indicates that before the hearing of Çrémad-Bhägavatam he

might have

fallen a victim to such sensuality, but after hearing Çrémad-Bhägavatam

directly

from the Lord, there was no possibility of such failures.

One should, however, take serious note of this incident. The human being is a

social animal, and his unrestricted mixing with the fair sex leads to

downfall. Such social freedom of man and woman, especially among the younger

section,

is certainly a great stumbling block on the path of spiritual progress.

Material bondage is due only to sexual bondage, and therefore unrestricted

association of man and woman is surely a great impediment. Maitreya cited this

example

on the part of Brahmä just to bring to our notice this great danger.

SB 3.12.29