Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Dear Teachers & Friends, Would you please enlighten the REAL LIFE ??? I don't think any body is taking care of the real life, what is real life , and how to approach ? Life for others does'nt seem to be realistic. Are we cheating woth ourselves ? or just doing what we want and advising others to do like this and that . I don't mean any thing ill, simply want to know the REAL LIFE ??? Thanks & regards Sincerely yours Zubair Aziz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 ---- Original Message ---- "zaziz7672004" <zaziz7672004 > <Kundaliniyoga> Thursday, June 29, 2006 11:09 AM Kundalini Yoga REAL LIFE ??? > Dear Teachers & Friends, > Would you please enlighten the REAL LIFE ??? > I don't think any body is taking care of the real life, what is real > life , and how to approach ? I'm not sure of what you mean......but do you think yoga can be something different or detached from real life? AC Sujan Singh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Dear Zubair: [Zubair Aziz] Would you please enlighten the REAL LIFE ??? [Awtar] Addressed to the end of this e-mail. [Zubair Aziz] I don't think any body is taking care of the real life, what is real life , and how to approach ? [Awtar] We are addressing the real life on this group. You are at the right place! [Zubair Aziz] Life for others doesn't seem to be realistic. [Awtar] You need to be more specific as to what you actually have in mind. I can only make guesses. Do you mean that conversations you have with others don't feel like they are about what's real? Are you talking about what you hear people talk about or are concerned with? [Zubair Aziz] Are we cheating ourselves ? [Awtar] In a way I would agree with this if we avoid the real life. [Zubair aziz] or just doing what we want and advising others to do like this and that . [Awtar] Are you talking about specific advice you have read on this group or elsewhere or advice you have given yourself? [Zubair Aziz] Would you please enlighten the REAL LIFE ??? [Awtar] Now I can start answering you. I am going to answer first by asking you questions Zubair. What makes you aware that there is such a thing as REAL LIFE? What makes you aware that there is something that you observe around you that isn't real? When do you know something is real and when do you know something isn't real? Reflect on this before reading further. To me, when people stay in their minds and don't relate to their feelings and their bodies as they speak, something is missing. It does not feel real. When I talk with someone about something that is bothering me, the conversation feels real when they say something that helps me breathe better or helps me cry tears that were stuck inside, or help me find the joy within. In other words, what's real for me is what allows the life force to flow through me. In my healing practice that's what I look for. Where's the life force blocked and how can I help it flow again. To do that I need to get out of judgments, in a neutral space, to be able to see clearly, without all the societal expectations, without my own personal expectations, and I open to unconditional love consciously. I open myself to the unexpected, to where the situation guides me. At the same time we live in a material world. We have to survive and to just live in the moment without any plans does not work very well. A farmer who does not plant seeds to be harvested later won't harvest much at all. We have to dream and plant the appropriate seeds and garden them until they grow strong and then harvest what we receive. Each step is temporary if the attitude is moody; the attitude you bring to it, the love and grace you bring to it, that is forever. What isn't real, is temporary. What is real is forever. In this sense, every moment matters because every moment you plant seeds for the future. These seeds receive your attitude as fertilizer. Blessings, Awtar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Hi, There's nothing actually fake. Its our individual perception. Now at this moment we all know we would die oneday but yet realisation is a completely different thing. So for us death is somewhat fake. After death it is said when the soul is liberated from the body then life seems fake. And through meditation you can experience a moment when both life and death exist in such perfect harmony that you will tend to lough at yourself for having discarded life or frightening death. So life is already real. And all is real about REAL LIFE. What is somewhat fake is our AHAM or believing ourselves to be ourselves separately. We actually are merged with the supreme consciousness. The moment you realize that you will know theres nothing fake or real. I am sorry if i have confused you. ______________________________Aparajita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Dearest Zubair, I havent read a post on KY for over a week, and this was the first thing I read. How courageous of you to tackle such a direct question. I have not read beyond this post and dont know if there was a series of posts related to this subject prior (I will read up some more) But I feel compelled to reply immediately as this is my largest struggle. When I first started reading posts here I felt daunted by my inability to conform to YB's lifestyle. I did scuttle away with my tail low. I am the parent of two challenging children, one is autistic suffering from violent outbursts, the other has less severe problems, but made more difficult by his brother in constant crisis. The demands of parenting these two wonderful, enlightening, bright boys make my lifestyle IMPOSSIBLE to follow a model KY existence. But KY does for me what other things have not (and Ive tried plenty) so now I am learning to lower my expectations of myself, accept myself and my life for what it is. There is still room for KY in my life. I guess I could make a metaphor to Christianity (if noone minds). Christians try to follow a life of Christ (which I will compare to YB please no sacrilege intended, just a LOOSE metaphor) Are they capable of that???? NO, There are a few who are capable of sainthood (coming close), more who can be teachers (preachers and ministers) who are still mere humans, and those who attend church services to recieve teaching. > I am receiving teaching. Thank you so much for this topic as it has offered me a chance to write my own thoughts. And I also believe there is room on this list for those of us who struggle to make a daily commitment (my longest 40 day practice lasted 7 days in two years) and feel grateful to be part of this group. Love and light Jeanette in Maine > Dear Teachers & Friends, > Would you please enlighten the REAL LIFE ??? > I don't think any body is taking care of the real life, what is real > life , and how to approach ? > Life for others does'nt seem to be realistic. > Are we cheating woth ourselves ? or just doing what we want and > advising others to do like this and that . > > I don't mean any thing ill, simply want to know the REAL LIFE ??? > Thanks & regards > Sincerely yours > Zubair Aziz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Dear Jeanette, That was so beautifully put. Thank you for posting your own experience. I too do what I can do. I would love to live it more but rather than feel guilty about days I miss or sometimes doing a half session, I have moved into the place of just doing what I can. And one step at a time I grow more peacefel and loving and centered. The practices are the only thing I have ever found in a long journey that can actually still the minds merry-go-round. It is absolutley life changing. And I am so very grateful for this journey. Thank you all for your wise words. My practice has always been solo , so it is so wonderful to hear others experiences. In peace and love, Sat Nam, Cassie Hepburn Dragonfly Bodyworks >> > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Sat Nam I fractured my foot yesterday thru carelessness and was so upset I could not meditate, chant nor did I feel like doing anything but moan.............The temp was 102 deg. here yesterday and that made me cranky and ornery........That is real life.......... This morning I did meditate and lowered my blood pressure quite a bit before I even took my meds.......That is real life.. Finding peace for yourself in spite of all problems by doing yoga(whatever you can)is also real life. Lovingly Teresa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 Real Life is what you are CHOOSING for yourself. It is not something that you happen to just go with (e.g. suggestions from others, things that just "happen" because you are already in a certain situation, etc.). Those things are not your truth. Make a conscious choice and choose the way you want your life to be. Sometimes we are thrown into a situation and we know deep down inside we don't really want it, but we go along for whatever reason. When you do this you are not living in your own truth. Hope this helps. Sunder Kaur (Lisa) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 29, 2006 Report Share Posted June 29, 2006 In regards to Zubair's message- I also would like to thank you for the addressing the "real life" question. I have been reading the posts from this group for sometime myself but have not yet responded to any- I do very much appreciate the thoughts concerning God and living in a "higher" manner - however, I do not respond because sometimes I think that we are simply off target. I practice KY regularly and am a teacher of KY, so I support its practice and beliefs, however at the same time it seems to me as if many of its practitioners have a tendency to get stuck in dogmatic thinking and superstition/ metaphor. I believe that there is a synchronicity connecting all of life - a definite pattern of things/beings/events coinciding - some choose to call this God ( I do not because I believe God carries far too much baggage and preconceived notions that are difficult to break away from, also a superiority and elevation that I do not think that we should assign to him/it.) , and one aim of KY is to connect to being, energy, connecting thread - Yes!! we should seek to align ourselves with this, however I do not believe that practicing at 6 am every morning rather than 2pm every other day or once a week will make this more likely, or eliminating dissonant music, or eating a purely sattvic diet.. Certainly these can be aids in becoming more aware of ourselves and our surroundings (which is the key to tuning into this synchronicity) - however not the only way or best way. It can be tiring to consistently read posts concerning the particulars of a "yogic" or "KY" lifestyle. We are always connected to this divine thread, we are this divine thread, and simply living our lives consciously,with feeling and sensitivity to our surroundings, and with lightness of spirit - meaning not getting bogged down in rituals, should and should nots, and worries about things we possibly cannot begin to know such as the nature of God, that which he expects from us, and the after/next/previous life. Be here now. Cerridwen Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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