Guest guest Posted July 2, 2006 Report Share Posted July 2, 2006 dear samir, namaskar my d/b ia 15 th march 1965 t/b00.15 L/L . 78 E 28 00 17N 23 00 same situation here please include my chart too in this discussions take care raj k. Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Samir, Namaskar You got it... its Kalatra Shapa as Saturn and Rahu lord the fourth house, arudha lagna and upapada. Now try Jayendra Sarasvatis chart and try the same approach. Now you will realize how important curses are in the chart. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com *** [] On Behalf Of Samir Shah 02 July 2006 13:28 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: House Mental Satisfaction || hare räma kåñna || Dear Pran, Namaskar Please let me share a little... Firstly, Saturn is retrograde, which will certainly modify the results. But, perhaps more importantly, Lagnesh is ill placed in the 8th house forming a strong Kalatra shaapa, as well as a daridra yoga. Since Rahu is involved, and Rahu lords the 4th house, it is no doubt going to cause some shocks in this area. The UL is also in Aquarius. Further, there is a tattva conflict with the Sun lording both the tithi and vaara of birth. This the 10th house also becomes troublesome. So all the points that you mentioned may not necessarily be linked to Saturn's placement. Hopefully other members will add to this or correct me if I'm wrong. I hope it helps. Best wishes, Samir At 21:54 29/06/2006, you wrote: , "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote: >Dear Vistiji, Namaskaar. It has been bothering me for a long time that if almost all scriptures say that any malefic planet if in its own house gives good results, why does Saturn in 4th house lorded by itself (like in Scorpio and libra ascendent) give misery, absence of real estate etc. It looks the principle of Swakhetra does not apply to it. I have several charts but the one below is prominent. Aug 2, 1964 14:22 34N05,74E49 The person is 42 years old, no house, no vehicle, no marriage, deep in debts. I am sending this to rule out things other than the swakhetri Saturn. Pran Razdan > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Prafulla, Namaskar > > Happiness comes from Guna, so we cannot say that fourth lord in fourth > invariably gives satisfaction. Saturn in fourth causes increased > disatisfaction due to its tamasic nature, whilst mercury in fourth will make > the person ever interested in the newest gadgets around due to its rajasic > traits. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > < http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com > > *** > > _____ > > On > Behalf Of Prafulla Gang > 27 June 2006 20:07 > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: House Mental Satisfaction > > > > Dear Visti ji > > Will not 4th lord in 4th also drive satisfaction (jupiter exalted in 4th > sign; moon is lord of 4th rashi - both in kaala purusha chart)? > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > If we cannot now end our differences, at least we can help make the world > safe for diversity. > > > > > visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) < visti%40srigaruda.com> com > > Tue, 27 Jun 2006 18:24:52 +0200 > > @ < %40> > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: House Mental Satisfaction > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Tarun, Namaskar > > > > Look at it logically. If a planet is well placed in the twelfth, it will > > give shubha yoga, which gives good sleep, rest, happy marital life, etc. > > If > > this planet is also fourth lord, then it also ensures mental > > satisfaction, > > i.e. no need to go buy the newest car or prettiest clothes as the native > > is > > satisfied and the desires are quelled. However, imagine if that planet is > > afflicted... > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > <http://srigaruda. < http://srigaruda.com> com> http://srigaruda. > < http://srigaruda.com> com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > @ < %40> > [@ > < %40> ] > > On > > Behalf Of Tarun > > 27 June 2006 18:02 > > @ < %40> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: House Mental Satisfaction > > > > > > > > Dear Visti ji, > > > > i am very grateful to be replied by you.and your guidance always helped > > me > > to understand the depth of astrology. > > > > i read the same mail many times so that i can understand each factor you > > explained to me. > > > > Sir I have one question related to that- what we should conclude if 4th > > lord > > is in 12th house > > shall we call it as the person will be satisfied with all his deeds...or > > karma > > i mean if 4th lord is afflicted then the person is never been able to be > > satisfied. > > > > As rahu in 12th house makes one unsatisfied with whatever he achieves > > because it has darken the factor related to 12th house. > > > > Thanks and best Regards > > > > Tarun > > > > > > > > > > Visti Larsen wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Tarun, Namaskar > > > > As per the informal teachings of Pt. Sanjay Rath; > > > > Happiness and mental satisfaction arises from the fourth house, and the > > twelfth house is the guiding force or 'guru' of the fourth house, being > > that > > the twelfth is the ninth from the fourth. > > > > So with good rest, and good recooperation our happiness increases and our > > mental satisfaction also. > > > > Should our hapiness suffer the eighth house being the fifth from the > > fourth, > > will start to suffer also and diseases will arise in the body due to weak > > immune system... a smile a day keeps the doctor away. > > > > Finally to overcome diseases the body needs rest and this is seen from > > the > > twelfth house (fifth from the eighth) and the planets placed in the > > twelfth > > are vital for the recooperation process. > > > > So how to solve this cycle of problems?.. make the twelfth house > > auspicious > > offcourse! Learn to meditate, and preferably meditate on the sanjivani > > beeja > > mantra: Joom. This is normally done with the kahola mantra: Om Joom Sah, > > and > > traditionally we advise the addition of sadashiva beeja; haum. Hence: > > Om > > Haum Joom Sah should be meditated on for perfect health, recooperation, > > washing away of sins from past life and finally opening the third eye > > with > > the help of Shiva. > > > > I hope this helps. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > <http://srigaruda. < http://srigaruda.com> com> http://srigaruda. > < http://srigaruda.com> com > > > > *** > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > As per informal teachings of Pt. Sanjay Rath. > ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. 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