enjoying more than the Lord?

[Guest guest]

Sri Govardhana, India

 

Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada.

 

I would like to thank Visista Prabhu for his detailed response. It is always

an advantage to have such knowledgeable Vaisnavas around to get an informed

feedback.

 

Without going through his last letter point by point, I would like to just

reiterate that I never maintained that logic could or should be an

independent pramana in spiritual matters, nor have I ever suggested that a

jiva could be equal to Srimati Radharani.

 

Rather, without going into much debate and counter-debate, I will simply

quote a passage from Srila Gour Govinda Maharaja's lecture.

 

In my eyes, the passage best elucidates on the aspect of relations between

the unlimited Lord and a limited jiva, which I think may be justly called as

"enjoying more than the Lord", and which I tried (and failed) to explain in

my previous texts:

 

"Then came the greed of Lord Nrsimhadev. Lord Nrsimhadev has two types of

forms, ugra (fearful) and anugra (peaceful). One is a very fearful form and

another is a very peaceful form. After killing Hirasnyakasipu, Lord

Nrsimhadev is very, very fearful, extremely fearful form and He was dancing,

like the tandaba-nrtya of Lord Siva at the time of annihilation. The whole

world was trembling seeing such dancing and anger of the fearful form of

Lord Nrsimhadev. All the demigods are offering prayers to pacify Him, but it

was all null and void. Then they requested Bhakta Prahlad, "You please go

and calm down the anger of Lord Nrsimhadev." Prahlad Maharaj is a very dear

devotee of the Lord, so Prahlad went there to offer prayers and Lord

Nrsimhadev became calm and then His form is a very peaceful form. Then Lord

Nrsimhadev put His dear devotee Sri Prahlad, like a son, on His lap. At that

time vatsalya prema, parental love and affection developed in Lord

Nrsimhadev. Both father and son relish this rasa, mellow. Father relishes,

son also relishes by sitting in the lap of the father, so it is reciprocal

but the relishing of this mellow of the son is greater than that of the

father. One should understand this. So Lord Nrsimhadev developed that greed,

"how can I sit in the lap of My father and relish that rasa? In this

incarnation My father is a stone pillar, I cannot have it." So He developed

that greed. Then all the incarnations after Lord Nrsimhadev came accepting

Father and Mother, to fulfill that greed."

 

(from "Embankment of Separation")

 

 

 

I would also like to thank Visista Prabhu for his suggestion not to clog

Krsna Katha conference with such lengthy debates, which may not necessarily

be interesting for everybody. I apologize to him and other devotees on the

conference for having contributed to the clogging and would like to put an

end to the debate from my side.

 

If Visista Prabhu so desires, we could discuss this and other topics

personally when we get together. It is always a pleasure to learn from a

such a learned Vaisnava as him.

 

Begging to remain

 

your servant,

Madana-mohana das