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Dear Gurujis,

Namaskar,

Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

I am asking alone.

In any house does that bhava destroys.

ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no siblings.

12th may be deny bed pleasure.

1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless native.

What are your experiences.

Regards,

JL

 

 

Thanks,

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No. I have Ketu in 3 in my birth chart. I have 6 sisters (4 alive) and 2 brothers (one alive).

Hasmukhrai J Mehta.

 

Jyotish Learner <vedicastro_mind > wrote:

Dear Gurujis,

Namaskar,

Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

I am asking alone.

In any house does that bhava destroys.

ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no siblings.

12th may be deny bed pleasure.

1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless native.

What are your experiences.

Regards,

JL

 

 

Thanks,

Jyotish Learner

 

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Ketu in the 7th house in many cases has not denied

marriage.Basic astrological analysis is important:-

i) The 7th House

ii) Its Lord

iii)Postion of Venus

iv) Affliction to the 7th house.

Analysis from moon sign too.

To me a good venus and 7th lord will ensure

marriage.Ketu may cause conflict in married life.

 

Hariom

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R.S.Maniam

 

--- Jyotish Learner <vedicastro_mind > wrote:

 

> Dear Gurujis,

> Namaskar,

>

> Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

> I am asking alone.

> In any house does that bhava destroys.

> ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no

> siblings.

> 12th may be deny bed pleasure.

> 1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless

> native.

>

> What are your experiences.

>

> Regards,

> JL

>

>

>

> Thanks,

> Jyotish Learner

>

>

>

>

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> music in your area

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear JL, Namaskar.

 

Your question is the same one I was thinking about early this morning :-)

 

My experience about Ketu in 7th is that such people are often alone.

And : I notice they utilize other people in order to fit their own views, as simple tools, without any naughty thought but for them, other people are only tools - in every possible field in life, quite often.

 

Did someone else notice this ?

 

Regards,

 

Annick Bidreman

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Gurujis,

Namaskar,

 

Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

I am asking alone.

In any house does that bhava destroys.

ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no siblings.

12th may be deny bed pleasure.

1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless native.

 

What are your experiences.

 

Regards,

JL

 

 

 

 

Thanks,

Jyotish Learner

 

 

 

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Dear JL,

 

it can give extramaritial affair as one is attracted towards multipliness in relationship area, this should be checked by Durga mantra. Ketu in seventh can give detachment also (COVA). Ketu positions shows sudden actions, avastha show how it works while Varga gives details and techniques of usages.

 

regards

rafal gendarz

 

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Srijagannath

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:28 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

 

 

 

Dear Gurujis,

Namaskar,

 

Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

I am asking alone.

In any house does that bhava destroys.

ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no siblings.

12th may be deny bed pleasure.

1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless native.

 

What are your experiences.

 

Regards,

JL

 

 

 

 

Thanks,

Jyotish Learner

 

 

 

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hroum namah adityaya

Dear JL,

 

forgot to mention, best remedy for Ke in 7 is tulasi worship.

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

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Srijagannath

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:28 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

 

 

 

Dear Gurujis,

Namaskar,

 

Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

I am asking alone.

In any house does that bhava destroys.

ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no siblings.

12th may be deny bed pleasure.

1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless native.

 

What are your experiences.

 

Regards,

JL

 

 

 

 

Thanks,

Jyotish Learner

 

 

 

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Respected Rafal JI,

If Ketu is in the 4th house its meant that the peson would have lacking of the happiness and any problem for mother's health.

Thanxs and best regards

Richa

 

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hroum namah adityaya

Dear JL,

forgot to mention, best remedy for Ke in 7 is tulasi worship.

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

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Srijagannath

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:28 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

 

Dear Gurujis,

Namaskar,

Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

I am asking alone.

In any house does that bhava destroys.

ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no siblings.

12th may be deny bed pleasure.

1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless native.

What are your experiences.

Regards,

JL

 

 

Thanks,

Jyotish Learner

 

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Dear Rafal.............on the contrary Ketu in the seventh can give

vairagya and the person will shy away from marriage as ketu is a

planet for sanyasa. For extra marital affairs I think we have to

examine the darapada and the influence of venus and mars on the

darapada and to some extent the UL also.

 

regards

Aru

 

 

 

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> Dear JL,

>

> it can give extramaritial affair as one is attracted towards

multipliness in relationship area, this should be checked by Durga

mantra. Ketu in seventh can give detachment also (COVA). Ketu

positions shows sudden actions, avastha show how it works while

Varga gives details and techniques of usages.

>

> regards

> rafal gendarz

>

> -

> Jyotish Learner

> Srijagannath

> Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:28 AM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

>

>

>

> Dear Gurujis,

> Namaskar,

>

> Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

> I am asking alone.

> In any house does that bhava destroys.

> ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no siblings.

> 12th may be deny bed pleasure.

> 1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless native.

>

> What are your experiences.

>

> Regards,

> JL

>

>

>

>

> Thanks,

> Jyotish Learner

>

>

> -

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Dear JL.........the presence of ketu in any house does not destroy

the significations of the house. But since ketu is a malefic it

afflicts the house that it occupies. Ketu in fifth house does not

deny children but merely afflicts that aspect of life as in the

native might have to face troubles in that area. But this again

depends on the strength of the fifth lord and the aspects on fifth.

Presence of ketu in third does not deny siblings! I have ketu in

third and I have three siblings!! So, there are always other factors

to check for.

 

regards

Aru

 

 

 

 

, Jyotish Learner

<vedicastro_mind wrote:

>

> Dear Gurujis,

> Namaskar,

>

> Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

> I am asking alone.

> In any house does that bhava destroys.

> ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no siblings.

> 12th may be deny bed pleasure.

> 1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless native.

>

> What are your experiences.

>

> Regards,

> JL

>

>

>

> Thanks,

> Jyotish Learner

>

>

>

>

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Dear Aru Ji,

 

 

u are rite i too have 5th ketu and my wife also has 5th ketu , and with

little knownledge i understand it will delay kids , but will not deny

 

have a look

 

10th march 1974

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bombay

 

 

regards

 

Prashu

 

On 7/5/06, Aravinda <aru_dulla > wrote:

>

> Dear JL.........the presence of ketu in any house does not destroy

> the significations of the house. But since ketu is a malefic it

> afflicts the house that it occupies. Ketu in fifth house does not

> deny children but merely afflicts that aspect of life as in the

> native might have to face troubles in that area. But this again

> depends on the strength of the fifth lord and the aspects on fifth.

> Presence of ketu in third does not deny siblings! I have ketu in

> third and I have three siblings!! So, there are always other factors

> to check for.

>

> regards

> Aru

>

> <%40>,

> Jyotish Learner

>

> <vedicastro_mind wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gurujis,

> > Namaskar,

> >

> > Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

> > I am asking alone.

> > In any house does that bhava destroys.

> > ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no siblings.

> > 12th may be deny bed pleasure.

> > 1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless native.

> >

> > What are your experiences.

> >

> > Regards,

> > JL

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jyotish Learner

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Music: Check out the gig guide for live music in your area

> >

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>

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hraum namah adityaya

Dear Aru,

 

there are many combination for extramaritialities, what i wrote is from Sarwartha Chintamani. nodes in seventh gives this kind of things..

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

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Aravinda

Wednesday, July 05, 2006 6:02 AM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

 

 

Dear Rafal.............on the contrary Ketu in the seventh can give

vairagya and the person will shy away from marriage as ketu is a

planet for sanyasa. For extra marital affairs I think we have to

examine the darapada and the influence of venus and mars on the

darapada and to some extent the UL also.

 

regards

Aru

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> Dear JL,

>

> it can give extramaritial affair as one is attracted towards

multipliness in relationship area, this should be checked by Durga

mantra. Ketu in seventh can give detachment also (COVA). Ketu

positions shows sudden actions, avastha show how it works while

Varga gives details and techniques of usages.

>

> regards

> rafal gendarz

>

> -

> Jyotish Learner

> Srijagannath

> Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:28 AM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

>

>

>

> Dear Gurujis,

> Namaskar,

>

> Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

> I am asking alone.

> In any house does that bhava destroys.

> ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no siblings.

> 12th may be deny bed pleasure.

> 1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless native.

>

> What are your experiences.

>

> Regards,

> JL

>

>

>

>

> Thanks,

> Jyotish Learner

>

>

> -------------------------

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Dear Visit ji & Rafal ji,

 

i read an article published in newspaper today that now a days 90 %

divorce cases are increasing because of the intimate relationship

developing between the woman and the men working in her office or her

circle.

Husband and wife are living with each other but the true sense of

support and the friendship is lacking between the couple, which is

needed to run the happy married life.and so their relationship outside

the marriage, starts.

Even in my case the relationship broke due to the same problem.

 

Sir is there any proper astrological meaning of this term which we can

define about the mental bond between the couple instead of just living

together. A proper mental bond which is needed.

 

Thanks and Regards

 

Tarun Agarwal

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hraum adityaya namah

Dear Tarun,

 

This kind of extramaritial events are due to karma done in our previous lives which is seen by presence of afflicted Venus or A7 in second to specific Upapada. Second bhava from A12 will tell us what is the excuse partner give to break the marriage while true reason is seen in Nava-amsa where detailed situation exists. In Kali yuga the quality of relationship is low therefore we shouldnt be surprised by events You mentioned in Your mail. There are eight types of Vivaha and every has its own characteristics. If nodes influence the seventh bhava in navamsa then first relationship is Pisaca Vivaha and can begin at some party etc. Guru is Brahma, Mars Daiva, Moon Arsha and Surya Prajapatya. Asura Graha defines the left four marriages.

 

Tarun, mental tie is not enough. Morality and resposnibility is important. This is seen by the Satwik and Holy Jupiter present in Kona to Navamsa Lagna or Moon. Mental ties can be seen by Kuta matching (Vasya koota, Gana koota and other..).

 

Next thing is how the partner treat us & how we treat the partner - there can be mismatch, as we can treat our girl as A7 and she can have UL attitude or vice versa.

 

Upapada fasting is remedy for all this mess..through mantra we can be free (to some degree) from pecularities of lower forces..

 

hope this gives some light..

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

-

Tarun

Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:55 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Bond

 

 

Dear Visit ji & Rafal ji,

 

i read an article published in newspaper today that now a days 90 %

divorce cases are increasing because of the intimate relationship

developing between the woman and the men working in her office or her

circle.

Husband and wife are living with each other but the true sense of

support and the friendship is lacking between the couple, which is

needed to run the happy married life.and so their relationship outside

the marriage, starts.

Even in my case the relationship broke due to the same problem.

 

Sir is there any proper astrological meaning of this term which we can

define about the mental bond between the couple instead of just living

together. A proper mental bond which is needed.

 

Thanks and Regards

 

Tarun Agarwal

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Dear Rafal ji,

 

Thanks for replying my mail.

 

This mail has definitely enlighten my doubts. Sir i wished to ask that

how much venus influence should be seen for such type of cases.

Sir what about A7 placements as Visti ji said that A-7 shows the persons

coming to you and there intentions, means house in which A7 comes. Like

if A7 comes in cancer or if it comes in Sign of saturn like capricorn or

aquarious.

 

Many says that if a person have venus in 5th house then his mind always

moves in making such kind of relations and he gets bored in having

relations with one single person.

Should Navamasa should be given prime importance. in this regards. As

jupiter roles sincerity and honesty & above all it rules the sense of

right and wrong.

 

Please guide me further

 

Thanks and Regards

Tarun

 

 

 

 

Rafal Gendarz wrote:

>

> /hraum adityaya namah/

> Dear Tarun,

>

> This kind of extramaritial events are due to karma done in our

> previous lives which is seen by presence of afflicted Venus or A7 in

> second to specific Upapada. Second bhava from A12 will tell us what is

> the excuse partner give to break the marriage while true reason is

> seen in Nava-amsa where detailed situation exists. In Kali yuga the

> quality of relationship is low therefore we shouldnt be surprised by

> events You mentioned in Your mail. There are eight types of Vivaha and

> every has its own characteristics. If nodes influence the seventh

> bhava in navamsa then first relationship is Pisaca Vivaha and can

> begin at some party etc. Guru is Brahma, Mars Daiva, Moon Arsha and

> Surya Prajapatya. Asura Graha defines the left four marriages.

>

> Tarun, mental tie is not enough. Morality and resposnibility is

> important. This is seen by the Satwik and Holy Jupiter present in Kona

> to Navamsa Lagna or Moon. Mental ties can be seen by Kuta matching

> (Vasya koota, Gana koota and other..).

>

> Next thing is how the partner treat us & how we treat the partner

> - there can be mismatch, as we can treat our girl as A7 and she can

> have UL attitude or vice versa.

>

> Upapada fasting is remedy for all this mess..through mantra we can

> be free (to some degree) from pecularities of lower forces..

>

> hope this gives some light..

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

>

> -

> ** Tarun <tarun.virgo >

> *To:*

> <>

> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:55 AM

> *Subject:* [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Bond

>

> Dear Visit ji & Rafal ji,

>

> i read an article published in newspaper today that now a days 90 %

> divorce cases are increasing because of the intimate relationship

> developing between the woman and the men working in her office or her

> circle.

> Husband and wife are living with each other but the true sense of

> support and the friendship is lacking between the couple, which is

> needed to run the happy married life.and so their relationship

> outside

> the marriage, starts.

> Even in my case the relationship broke due to the same problem.

>

> Sir is there any proper astrological meaning of this term which we

> can

> define about the mental bond between the couple instead of just

> living

> together. A proper mental bond which is needed.

>

> Thanks and Regards

>

> Tarun Agarwal

>

>

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vyam vyasadevaya namah

Dear Tarun,

comments below

regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

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Tarun

Wednesday, July 05, 2006 12:06 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Bond

 

 

Dear Rafal ji,

 

Thanks for replying my mail.

 

This mail has definitely enlighten my doubts. Sir i wished to ask that how much venus influence should be seen for such type of cases.

 

[rafal]

 

you can study extramaritial cases from "crux of vedic astrology". moon in kona to mercury gives loose morals, and also mercury/shukra in scorpio (deb of moon). this is checked by Jupiter (Brhaspati accepting Buddha) in Kona to Navamsa Lagna. there is no question of how much, because there is need for depth study and there is no shortcuts to this..sarwartha cintamani points also malefics in ninth for this.. 2nd from Upapada shows only to which upapada this extramaritialities will come..but they must be there in chart (of native or spouse).

 

 

Sir what about A7 placements as Visti ji said that A-7 shows the persons coming to you and there intentions, means house in which A7 comes. Like if A7 comes in cancer or if it comes in Sign of saturn like capricorn or aquarious.

 

[rafal] this will show lagna of short-terms partners and buisness-companies. bhava will/can indicate source of initiative while sign will show place/nature. bhava is always important for us while rasi is for others/world

 

Many says that if a person have venus in 5th house then his mind always moves in making such kind of relations and he gets bored in having relations with one single person.

 

[rafal] This is for romantic personality which fall quickly in love..but not neccesary loose morals or short-term attitude. Getting bored comes from lack of harmony in relationship..deva will always feel bored with rakshasa and vice versa...rahu and ketu need excitement therefore there is need for compatibility...if You talk about getting bored coming from shadripus(attitude towards many partners or many various emotions coming from relation) then there is need for full-colour or many-colour partner like rahu-type (diplomacy) are. If they cannot find them then it is still karma (fasting for correction). If You talk about boring coming from realization and high conciousness then either celibacy (sani on UL without Jup influence with AL yuti) or duty-oriented brahmana marriage with higher ambitions that simply having fun..(ketu in seventh or sevent lord AK)..then again this partner should be there to fill the space...people have variouos attitudes/conciousness as material world has raja guna (buddha - variety like sour-sweet dishes).

 

 

 

 

Should Navamasa should be given prime importance. in this regards. As jupiter roles sincerity and honesty & above all it rules the sense of right and wrong.

 

[rafal] navamsa is always more concrete but start with rasi. to be good jyotishi there is need for holistic approach coming from satva guna...so say vyam vyasadevya namah..

 

Please guide me further

 

Thanks and Regards

Tarun

 

 

 

 

Rafal Gendarz wrote:

 

 

hraum adityaya namah

Dear Tarun,

 

This kind of extramaritial events are due to karma done in our previous lives which is seen by presence of afflicted Venus or A7 in second to specific Upapada. Second bhava from A12 will tell us what is the excuse partner give to break the marriage while true reason is seen in Nava-amsa where detailed situation exists. In Kali yuga the quality of relationship is low therefore we shouldnt be surprised by events You mentioned in Your mail. There are eight types of Vivaha and every has its own characteristics. If nodes influence the seventh bhava in navamsa then first relationship is Pisaca Vivaha and can begin at some party etc. Guru is Brahma, Mars Daiva, Moon Arsha and Surya Prajapatya. Asura Graha defines the left four marriages.

 

Tarun, mental tie is not enough. Morality and resposnibility is important. This is seen by the Satwik and Holy Jupiter present in Kona to Navamsa Lagna or Moon. Mental ties can be seen by Kuta matching (Vasya koota, Gana koota and other..).

 

Next thing is how the partner treat us & how we treat the partner - there can be mismatch, as we can treat our girl as A7 and she can have UL attitude or vice versa.

 

Upapada fasting is remedy for all this mess..through mantra we can be free (to some degree) from pecularities of lower forces..

 

hope this gives some light..

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

-

Tarun

Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:55 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Bond

 

 

Dear Visit ji & Rafal ji,

 

i read an article published in newspaper today that now a days 90 %

divorce cases are increasing because of the intimate relationship

developing between the woman and the men working in her office or her

circle.

Husband and wife are living with each other but the true sense of

support and the friendship is lacking between the couple, which is

needed to run the happy married life.and so their relationship outside

the marriage, starts.

Even in my case the relationship broke due to the same problem.

 

Sir is there any proper astrological meaning of this term which we can

define about the mental bond between the couple instead of just living

together. A proper mental bond which is needed.

 

Thanks and Regards

 

Tarun Agarwal

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|| Om Gan Ganapataye Namah ||

Namaste Rafal Guru Ji,

Pranaam,

Ok that clears my doubt of ketu in 7th so tahts good it wont give denial but xmartial affairs.

Guru Ji , I have 1 more important question to you , I have seen few charts.

Where I have observed malefics in 4th house.

Now 4th house is house of comforts , mother , conveyances.

Can I conclude that presnce of malefics in 4th would deny 4th bahva to native??

It also says about our approach towards relatives so what may be effect.

I have 1 chart where in native has ketu in 4th but still native loves mother perhaps Moon in Lgna may be that is reason.

I feel ketu may be give spirirtual efects more to native as such nodes in kendra makes one spiritual i guess.

Please help in determining effectof malefics in 4th house.

Best Wishes,

JL

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

Dear JL,

it can give extramaritial affair as one is attracted towards multipliness in relationship area, this should be checked by Durga mantra. Ketu in seventh can give detachment also (COVA). Ketu positions shows sudden actions, avastha show how it works while Varga gives details and techniques of usages.

regards

rafal gendarz

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Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:28 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

 

Dear Gurujis,

Namaskar,

Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

I am asking alone.

In any house does that bhava destroys.

ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no siblings.

12th may be deny bed pleasure.

1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless native.

What are your experiences.

Regards,

JL

 

 

Thanks,

Jyotish Learner

 

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Dear Rafal ji,

 

Thanks for a very informative post.

 

This time i dont have any questions related to this thing.

Sir please guide me about my UL.

My UL is in Gemini, should i worship ganesha so that my UL is empowered.

19-07-1983

10.35 am

jodhpur-India

 

thanks and Best Regards

Tarun

 

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> vyam vyasadevaya namah

> Dear Tarun,

> comments below

> regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

>

> -

> ** Tarun <tarun.virgo >

> *To:*

> <>

> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 05, 2006 12:06 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Bond

>

> Dear Rafal ji,

>

> Thanks for replying my mail.

>

> This mail has definitely enlighten my doubts. Sir i wished to ask

> that how much venus influence should be seen for such type of cases.

>

> [rafal]

>

> you can study extramaritial cases from "crux of vedic astrology".

> moon in kona to mercury gives loose morals, and also

> mercury/shukra in scorpio (deb of moon). this is checked by

> Jupiter (Brhaspati accepting Buddha) in Kona to Navamsa Lagna.

> there is no question of how much, because there is need for depth

> study and there is no shortcuts to this..sarwartha cintamani

> points also malefics in ninth for this.. 2nd from Upapada shows

> only to which upapada this extramaritialities will come..but they

> must be there in chart (of native or spouse).

>

>

> Sir what about A7 placements as Visti ji said that A-7 shows the

> persons coming to you and there intentions, means house in which

> A7 comes. Like if A7 comes in cancer or if it comes in Sign of

> saturn like capricorn or aquarious.

>

> [rafal] this will show lagna of short-terms partners and

> buisness-companies. bhava will/can indicate source of initiative

> while sign will show place/nature. bhava is always important for

> us while rasi is for others/world

>

> Many says that if a person have venus in 5th house then his mind

> always moves in making such kind of relations and he gets bored in

> having relations with one single person.

>

> [rafal] This is for romantic personality which fall quickly in

> love..but not neccesary loose morals or short-term attitude.

> Getting bored comes from lack of harmony in relationship..deva

> will always feel bored with rakshasa and vice versa...rahu and

> ketu need excitement therefore there is need for

> compatibility...if You talk about getting bored coming from

> shadripus(attitude towards many partners or many various emotions

> coming from relation) then there is need for full-colour or

> many-colour partner like rahu-type (diplomacy) are. If they cannot

> find them then it is still karma (fasting for correction). If You

> talk about boring coming from realization and high conciousness

> then either celibacy (sani on UL without Jup influence with AL

> yuti) or duty-oriented brahmana marriage with higher ambitions

> that simply having fun..(ketu in seventh or sevent lord AK)..then

> again this partner should be there to fill the space...people have

> variouos attitudes/conciousness as material world has raja guna

> (buddha - variety like sour-sweet dishes).

>

>

>

>

> Should Navamasa should be given prime importance. in this regards.

> As jupiter roles sincerity and honesty & above all it rules the

> sense of right and wrong.

>

> [rafal] navamsa is always more concrete but start with rasi. to be

> good jyotishi there is need for holistic approach coming from

> satva guna...so say vyam vyasadevya namah..

>

> Please guide me further

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Tarun

>

>

>

>

> Rafal Gendarz wrote:

>

>> /hraum adityaya namah/

>> Dear Tarun,

>>

>> This kind of extramaritial events are due to karma done in

>> our previous lives which is seen by presence of afflicted Venus

>> or A7 in second to specific Upapada. Second bhava from A12 will

>> tell us what is the excuse partner give to break the marriage

>> while true reason is seen in Nava-amsa where detailed situation

>> exists. In Kali yuga the quality of relationship is low therefore

>> we shouldnt be surprised by events You mentioned in Your mail.

>> There are eight types of Vivaha and every has its own

>> characteristics. If nodes influence the seventh bhava in navamsa

>> then first relationship is Pisaca Vivaha and can begin at some

>> party etc. Guru is Brahma, Mars Daiva, Moon Arsha and Surya

>> Prajapatya. Asura Graha defines the left four marriages.

>>

>> Tarun, mental tie is not enough. Morality and resposnibility

>> is important. This is seen by the Satwik and Holy Jupiter present

>> in Kona to Navamsa Lagna or Moon. Mental ties can be seen by Kuta

>> matching (Vasya koota, Gana koota and other..).

>>

>> Next thing is how the partner treat us & how we treat the

>> partner - there can be mismatch, as we can treat our girl as A7

>> and she can have UL attitude or vice versa.

>>

>> Upapada fasting is remedy for all this mess..through

>> mantra we can be free (to some degree) from pecularities of lower

>> forces..

>>

>> hope this gives some light..

>>

>> Regards

>> Rafal Gendarz

>>

>>

>> -

>> ** Tarun <tarun.virgo >

>> *To:*

>> <>

>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:55 AM

>> *Subject:* [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Bond

>>

>> Dear Visit ji & Rafal ji,

>>

>> i read an article published in newspaper today that now a

>> days 90 %

>> divorce cases are increasing because of the intimate

>> relationship

>> developing between the woman and the men working in her

>> office or her

>> circle.

>> Husband and wife are living with each other but the true

>> sense of

>> support and the friendship is lacking between the couple,

>> which is

>> needed to run the happy married life.and so their

>> relationship outside

>> the marriage, starts.

>> Even in my case the relationship broke due to the same problem.

>>

>> Sir is there any proper astrological meaning of this term

>> which we can

>> define about the mental bond between the couple instead of

>> just living

>> together. A proper mental bond which is needed.

>>

>> Thanks and Regards

>>

>> Tarun Agarwal

>>

>

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Ketu represents secrets, the things taht are not shown

and in that regard it can show hidden relationships.

But for extramerital relationships SK shoud have rasi

dristi on 2nd from UL. Sk Ma combination will give

excecivness in that field of life (offcourse in

specific positions). To say that the native will shy

away from marriage is very generall.

Best wishes, Bojan

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--- Aravinda <aru_dulla > wrote:

 

> Dear Rafal.............on the contrary Ketu in the

> seventh can give

> vairagya and the person will shy away from marriage

> as ketu is a

> planet for sanyasa. For extra marital affairs I

> think we have to

> examine the darapada and the influence of venus and

> mars on the

> darapada and to some extent the UL also.

>

> regards

> Aru

>

>

>

>

> , "Rafal Gendarz"

>

> <starsuponme wrote:

> >

> > Dear JL,

> >

> > it can give extramaritial affair as one is

> attracted towards

> multipliness in relationship area, this should be

> checked by Durga

> mantra. Ketu in seventh can give detachment also

> (COVA). Ketu

> positions shows sudden actions, avastha show how it

> works while

> Varga gives details and techniques of usages.

> >

> > regards

> > rafal gendarz

> >

> > -

> > Jyotish Learner

> > Srijagannath

> > Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:28 AM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Gurujis,

> > Namaskar,

> >

> > Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

> > I am asking alone.

> > In any house does that bhava destroys.

> > ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no

> siblings.

> > 12th may be deny bed pleasure.

> > 1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless

> native.

> >

> > What are your experiences.

> >

> > Regards,

> > JL

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jyotish Learner

> >

> >

> >

>

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Dear Jyotisha learner I am suggesting you to read COVA

(by Sanjay Rath). There you can read and learn how to

see effects of planets. It is normal that malefics are

bad in 4th - it represents home, inner qualities of

heart of the person (now connect planetary karakatwas

with these), also these planets will have argala on

lagna...think in those lines

Best wishes, Bojan Vidakovic

OM TAT SAT

--- Jyotish Learner <vedicastro_mind > wrote:

 

> || Om Gan Ganapataye Namah ||

>

> Namaste Rafal Guru Ji,

> Pranaam,

>

> Ok that clears my doubt of ketu in 7th so tahts

> good it wont give denial but xmartial affairs.

>

> Guru Ji , I have 1 more important question to you

> , I have seen few charts.

> Where I have observed malefics in 4th house.

>

> Now 4th house is house of comforts , mother ,

> conveyances.

>

> Can I conclude that presnce of malefics in 4th

> would deny 4th bahva to native??

>

> It also says about our approach towards relatives

> so what may be effect.

>

> I have 1 chart where in native has ketu in 4th but

> still native loves mother perhaps Moon in Lgna may

> be that is reason.

>

> I feel ketu may be give spirirtual efects more to

> native as such nodes in kendra makes one spiritual i

> guess.

>

> Please help in determining effectof malefics in

> 4th house.

>

> Best Wishes,

> JL

>

> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

> Dear JL,

>

> it can give extramaritial affair as one is

> attracted towards multipliness in relationship area,

> this should be checked by Durga mantra. Ketu in

> seventh can give detachment also (COVA). Ketu

> positions shows sudden actions, avastha show how it

> works while Varga gives details and techniques of

> usages.

>

> regards

> rafal gendarz

>

> -

> Jyotish Learner

> Srijagannath

> Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:28 AM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

>

>

> Dear Gurujis,

> Namaskar,

>

> Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

> I am asking alone.

> In any house does that bhava destroys.

> ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no

> siblings.

> 12th may be deny bed pleasure.

> 1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless

> native.

>

> What are your experiences.

>

> Regards,

> JL

>

>

>

> Thanks,

> Jyotish Learner

>

>

>

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Dear JL,

comments below again

regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

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Wednesday, July 05, 2006 1:45 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

 

 

 

|| Om Gan Ganapataye Namah ||

 

Namaste Rafal Guru Ji,

Pranaam,

 

Ok that clears my doubt of ketu in 7th so tahts good it wont give denial but xmartial affairs.

 

[rafal] desire to have more than one partner to be more concrete.

 

 

Guru Ji , I have 1 more important question to you , I have seen few charts.

Where I have observed malefics in 4th house.

 

Now 4th house is house of comforts , mother , conveyances.

 

Can I conclude that presnce of malefics in 4th would deny 4th bahva to native??

 

[rafal] if satva graha is in lagna it produces saint if tamas fraud, if rajas see association..(why You dont read COVA???) . To deny something You must have denial of :

 

- karaka

- bhava

- bhavesh

- varga

and many others like houses from karaka and AK.

life is too complicated!

 

 

It also says about our approach towards relatives so what may be effect.

 

[rafal] all kendra is approach. all lagna is varga is approach. read jataka parijata and satya jataka in this regard.

 

I have 1 chart where in native has ketu in 4th but still native loves mother perhaps Moon in Lgna may be that is reason.

 

[rafal] Moon is in Kendra so it is not destroyed. See Buddha(education) , Ketu(apartment), Mangal(land), Jupiter(hapiness), Venus(car), Buddha (bandhu)...judge from bhava and lord...karaka open the hapiness to object...!

 

I feel ketu may be give spirirtual efects more to native as such nodes in kendra makes one spiritual i guess.

 

[rafal] ketu in forth gives shorttemper and friend cirlce of low quality. if seventh is stronger then this argala doesnt function, therefore my buddha in forth is checked through mangal and ketu in forth but buddha is lagnesh so there is struggle..mantra can overcome this.

 

 

Please help in determining effectof malefics in 4th house.

 

Best Wishes,

JL

 

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

Dear JL,

 

it can give extramaritial affair as one is attracted towards multipliness in relationship area, this should be checked by Durga mantra. Ketu in seventh can give detachment also (COVA). Ketu positions shows sudden actions, avastha show how it works while Varga gives details and techniques of usages.

 

regards

rafal gendarz

 

-

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Srijagannath

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:28 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

 

 

Dear Gurujis,

Namaskar,

 

Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

I am asking alone.

In any house does that bhava destroys.

ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no siblings.

12th may be deny bed pleasure.

1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless native.

 

What are your experiences.

 

Regards,

JL

 

 

 

 

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||Vyam Vyasadevaya Namah ||

Dear Guruji,

Namaskar,

Beautiful note on ketu in 7h.

Other information I have noted down.

Thanks for sharing your knowledge with us.

Regards,

JL

 

 

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

vyam vyasadevaya namah

Dear JL,

comments below again

regards

Rafal Gendarz

-

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Wednesday, July 05, 2006 1:45 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

 

|| Om Gan Ganapataye Namah ||

Namaste Rafal Guru Ji,

Pranaam,

Ok that clears my doubt of ketu in 7th so tahts good it wont give denial but xmartial affairs.

[rafal] desire to have more than one partner to be more concrete.

Guru Ji , I have 1 more important question to you , I have seen few charts.

Where I have observed malefics in 4th house.

Now 4th house is house of comforts , mother , conveyances.

Can I conclude that presnce of malefics in 4th would deny 4th bahva to native??

[rafal] if satva graha is in lagna it produces saint if tamas fraud, if rajas see association..(why You dont read COVA???) . To deny something You must have denial of :

- karaka

- bhava

- bhavesh

- varga

and many others like houses from karaka and AK.

life is too complicated!

It also says about our approach towards relatives so what may be effect.

[rafal] all kendra is approach. all lagna is varga is approach. read jataka parijata and satya jataka in this regard.

I have 1 chart where in native has ketu in 4th but still native loves mother perhaps Moon in Lgna may be that is reason.

[rafal] Moon is in Kendra so it is not destroyed. See Buddha(education) , Ketu(apartment), Mangal(land), Jupiter(hapiness), Venus(car), Buddha (bandhu)...judge from bhava and lord...karaka open the hapiness to object...!

I feel ketu may be give spirirtual efects more to native as such nodes in kendra makes one spiritual i guess.

[rafal] ketu in forth gives shorttemper and friend cirlce of low quality. if seventh is stronger then this argala doesnt function, therefore my buddha in forth is checked through mangal and ketu in forth but buddha is lagnesh so there is struggle..mantra can overcome this.

Please help in determining effectof malefics in 4th house.

Best Wishes,

JL

Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

Dear JL,

it can give extramaritial affair as one is attracted towards multipliness in relationship area, this should be checked by Durga mantra. Ketu in seventh can give detachment also (COVA). Ketu positions shows sudden actions, avastha show how it works while Varga gives details and techniques of usages.

regards

rafal gendarz

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Srijagannath

Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:28 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

 

Dear Gurujis,

Namaskar,

Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

I am asking alone.

In any house does that bhava destroys.

ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no siblings.

12th may be deny bed pleasure.

1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless native.

What are your experiences.

Regards,

JL

 

 

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Thanks for your email , I will read COVA And learn more about planets.

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JL

 

 

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Dear Jyotisha learner I am suggesting you to read COVA

(by Sanjay Rath). There you can read and learn how to

see effects of planets. It is normal that malefics are

bad in 4th - it represents home, inner qualities of

heart of the person (now connect planetary karakatwas

with these), also these planets will have argala on

lagna...think in those lines

Best wishes, Bojan Vidakovic

OM TAT SAT

--- Jyotish Learner <vedicastro_mind > wrote:

 

> || Om Gan Ganapataye Namah ||

>

> Namaste Rafal Guru Ji,

> Pranaam,

>

> Ok that clears my doubt of ketu in 7th so tahts

> good it wont give denial but xmartial affairs.

>

> Guru Ji , I have 1 more important question to you

> , I have seen few charts.

> Where I have observed malefics in 4th house.

>

> Now 4th house is house of comforts , mother ,

> conveyances.

>

> Can I conclude that presnce of malefics in 4th

> would deny 4th bahva to native??

>

> It also says about our approach towards relatives

> so what may be effect.

>

> I have 1 chart where in native has ketu in 4th but

> still native loves mother perhaps Moon in Lgna may

> be that is reason.

>

> I feel ketu may be give spirirtual efects more to

> native as such nodes in kendra makes one spiritual i

> guess.

>

> Please help in determining effectof malefics in

> 4th house.

>

> Best Wishes,

> JL

>

> Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:

> Dear JL,

>

> it can give extramaritial affair as one is

> attracted towards multipliness in relationship area,

> this should be checked by Durga mantra. Ketu in

> seventh can give detachment also (COVA). Ketu

> positions shows sudden actions, avastha show how it

> works while Varga gives details and techniques of

> usages.

>

> regards

> rafal gendarz

>

> -

> Jyotish Learner

> Srijagannath

> Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:28 AM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

>

>

> Dear Gurujis,

> Namaskar,

>

> Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

> I am asking alone.

> In any house does that bhava destroys.

> ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no

> siblings.

> 12th may be deny bed pleasure.

> 1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless

> native.

>

> What are your experiences.

>

> Regards,

> JL

>

>

>

> Thanks,

> Jyotish Learner

>

>

>

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Dear Rafal....one more question. How do we judge nodes in second

from the UL or second from seventh? My belief is that they sustain

the marriage and avoid any kind of extra marital affairs. Am I

correct?

 

regards

Aru

 

 

, "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme wrote:

>

> hraum namah adityaya

> Dear Aru,

>

> there are many combination for extramaritialities, what i wrote is

from Sarwartha Chintamani. nodes in seventh gives this kind of

things..

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

> -

> Aravinda

>

> Wednesday, July 05, 2006 6:02 AM

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

>

>

> Dear Rafal.............on the contrary Ketu in the seventh can

give

> vairagya and the person will shy away from marriage as ketu is a

> planet for sanyasa. For extra marital affairs I think we have to

> examine the darapada and the influence of venus and mars on the

> darapada and to some extent the UL also.

>

> regards

> Aru

>

> , "Rafal Gendarz"

> <starsuponme@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear JL,

> >

> > it can give extramaritial affair as one is attracted towards

> multipliness in relationship area, this should be checked by

Durga

> mantra. Ketu in seventh can give detachment also (COVA). Ketu

> positions shows sudden actions, avastha show how it works while

> Varga gives details and techniques of usages.

> >

> > regards

> > rafal gendarz

> >

> > -

> > Jyotish Learner

> > Srijagannath

> > Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:28 AM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Gurujis,

> > Namaskar,

> >

> > Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

> > I am asking alone.

> > In any house does that bhava destroys.

> > ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no siblings.

> > 12th may be deny bed pleasure.

> > 1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless native.

> >

> > What are your experiences.

> >

> > Regards,

> > JL

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Jyotish Learner

> >

> >

> > -------------------------

> -----------

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Dear Aru, Namaskar

 

Please let me try and help. BPHS

(Upapadaadhyaaya, Shlokas 7-12) says that

malefics in the 2nd from UL will not sustain the

marriage. It goes on to talk about the ill

effects of Rahu influencing the 2nd from UL with

other planets (you will find that a lot of them

are physical ailments - same as the 2nd from

AL!). Certainly Rahu's influence along with

Venus can indicate extramarital affairs. Rahu in general will bring scandal.

 

But there is more to this, because any planet,

even a benefic, in the 2nd from UL is capable of

breaking the marriage. What we need to see is

the relationship between that planet and the

planets in the UL itself (or the lord). If they

are friendly, then it will support the marriage,

otherwise it will try to break it.

 

I hope that helps. I'm sure other members will add/correct if necessary.

 

Best wishes,

 

Samir

 

 

 

 

At 07:00 06/07/2006, you wrote:

>Dear Rafal....one more question. How do we judge nodes in second

>from the UL or second from seventh? My belief is that they sustain

>the marriage and avoid any kind of extra marital affairs. Am I

>correct?

>

>regards

>Aru

>

>

>, "Rafal Gendarz"

><starsuponme wrote:

> >

> > hraum namah adityaya

> > Dear Aru,

> >

> > there are many combination for extramaritialities, what i wrote is

>from Sarwartha Chintamani. nodes in seventh gives this kind of

>things..

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> > -

> > Aravinda

> >

> > Wednesday, July 05, 2006 6:02 AM

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

> >

> >

> > Dear Rafal.............on the contrary Ketu in the seventh can

>give

> > vairagya and the person will shy away from marriage as ketu is a

> > planet for sanyasa. For extra marital affairs I think we have to

> > examine the darapada and the influence of venus and mars on the

> > darapada and to some extent the UL also.

> >

> > regards

> > Aru

> >

> > , "Rafal Gendarz"

> > <starsuponme@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear JL,

> > >

> > > it can give extramaritial affair as one is attracted towards

> > multipliness in relationship area, this should be checked by

>Durga

> > mantra. Ketu in seventh can give detachment also (COVA). Ketu

> > positions shows sudden actions, avastha show how it works while

> > Varga gives details and techniques of usages.

> > >

> > > regards

> > > rafal gendarz

> > >

> > > -

> > > Jyotish Learner

> > > Srijagannath

> > > Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:28 AM

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Ketu in 7h

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Gurujis,

> > > Namaskar,

> > >

> > > Does presence of ketu in 7th deny marriage.

> > > I am asking alone.

> > > In any house does that bhava destroys.

> > > ex:5th may be deny children 3rd may be no siblings.

> > > 12th may be deny bed pleasure.

> > > 1 may be good for spirituality bbut headless native.

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> > > What are your experiences.

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>~ om tat sat ~

>Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

>Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

>(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

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Dear Rafal ji,

 

Thanks for a very informative post.

 

Sir please guide me about my UL.

My UL is in Gemini, should i worship ganesha so that my UL is empowered.

19-07-1983

10.35 am

jodhpur-India

 

thanks and Best Regards

Tarun

 

Rafal Gendarz wrote:

 

 

 

> vyam vyasadevaya namah

> Dear Tarun,

> comments below

> regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

>

> -

> ** Tarun <tarun.virgo >

> *To:*

> <>

> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 05, 2006 12:06 PM

> *Subject:* Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Bond

>

> Dear Rafal ji,

>

> Thanks for replying my mail.

>

> This mail has definitely enlighten my doubts. Sir i wished to ask

> that how much venus influence should be seen for such type of cases.

>

> [rafal]

>

> you can study extramaritial cases from "crux of vedic astrology".

> moon in kona to mercury gives loose morals, and also

> mercury/shukra in scorpio (deb of moon). this is checked by

> Jupiter (Brhaspati accepting Buddha) in Kona to Navamsa Lagna.

> there is no question of how much, because there is need for depth

> study and there is no shortcuts to this..sarwartha cintamani

> points also malefics in ninth for this.. 2nd from Upapada shows

> only to which upapada this extramaritialities will come..but they

> must be there in chart (of native or spouse).

>

>

> Sir what about A7 placements as Visti ji said that A-7 shows the

> persons coming to you and there intentions, means house in which

> A7 comes. Like if A7 comes in cancer or if it comes in Sign of

> saturn like capricorn or aquarious.

>

> [rafal] this will show lagna of short-terms partners and

> buisness-companies. bhava will/can indicate source of initiative

> while sign will show place/nature. bhava is always important for

> us while rasi is for others/world

>

> Many says that if a person have venus in 5th house then his mind

> always moves in making such kind of relations and he gets bored in

> having relations with one single person.

>

> [rafal] This is for romantic personality which fall quickly in

> love..but not neccesary loose morals or short-term attitude.

> Getting bored comes from lack of harmony in relationship..deva

> will always feel bored with rakshasa and vice versa...rahu and

> ketu need excitement therefore there is need for

> compatibility...if You talk about getting bored coming from

> shadripus(attitude towards many partners or many various emotions

> coming from relation) then there is need for full-colour or

> many-colour partner like rahu-type (diplomacy) are. If they cannot

> find them then it is still karma (fasting for correction). If You

> talk about boring coming from realization and high conciousness

> then either celibacy (sani on UL without Jup influence with AL

> yuti) or duty-oriented brahmana marriage with higher ambitions

> that simply having fun..(ketu in seventh or sevent lord AK)..then

> again this partner should be there to fill the space...people have

> variouos attitudes/conciousness as material world has raja guna

> (buddha - variety like sour-sweet dishes).

>

>

>

>

> Should Navamasa should be given prime importance. in this regards.

> As jupiter roles sincerity and honesty & above all it rules the

> sense of right and wrong.

>

> [rafal] navamsa is always more concrete but start with rasi. to be

> good jyotishi there is need for holistic approach coming from

> satva guna...so say vyam vyasadevya namah..

>

> Please guide me further

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Tarun

>

>

>

>

> Rafal Gendarz wrote:

>

>> /hraum adityaya namah/

>> Dear Tarun,

>>

>> This kind of extramaritial events are due to karma done in

>> our previous lives which is seen by presence of afflicted Venus

>> or A7 in second to specific Upapada. Second bhava from A12 will

>> tell us what is the excuse partner give to break the marriage

>> while true reason is seen in Nava-amsa where detailed situation

>> exists. In Kali yuga the quality of relationship is low therefore

>> we shouldnt be surprised by events You mentioned in Your mail.

>> There are eight types of Vivaha and every has its own

>> characteristics. If nodes influence the seventh bhava in navamsa

>> then first relationship is Pisaca Vivaha and can begin at some

>> party etc. Guru is Brahma, Mars Daiva, Moon Arsha and Surya

>> Prajapatya. Asura Graha defines the left four marriages.

>>

>> Tarun, mental tie is not enough. Morality and resposnibility

>> is important. This is seen by the Satwik and Holy Jupiter present

>> in Kona to Navamsa Lagna or Moon. Mental ties can be seen by Kuta

>> matching (Vasya koota, Gana koota and other..).

>>

>> Next thing is how the partner treat us & how we treat the

>> partner - there can be mismatch, as we can treat our girl as A7

>> and she can have UL attitude or vice versa.

>>

>> Upapada fasting is remedy for all this mess..through

>> mantra we can be free (to some degree) from pecularities of lower

>> forces..

>>

>> hope this gives some light..

>>

>> Regards

>> Rafal Gendarz

>>

>>

>> -

>> ** Tarun <tarun.virgo >

>> *To:*

>> <>

>> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:55 AM

>> *Subject:* [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Bond

>>

>> Dear Visit ji & Rafal ji,

>>

>> i read an article published in newspaper today that now a

>> days 90 %

>> divorce cases are increasing because of the intimate

>> relationship

>> developing between the woman and the men working in her

>> office or her

>> circle.

>> Husband and wife are living with each other but the true

>> sense of

>> support and the friendship is lacking between the couple,

>> which is

>> needed to run the happy married life.and so their

>> relationship outside

>> the marriage, starts.

>> Even in my case the relationship broke due to the same problem.

>>

>> Sir is there any proper astrological meaning of this term

>> which we can

>> define about the mental bond between the couple instead of

>> just living

>> together. A proper mental bond which is needed.

>>

>> Thanks and Regards

>>

>> Tarun Agarwal

>>

>

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