Guest guest Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Dear Members I request members to share their experiences of yogakarka becoming badhkesh.. Parashar does not suggest that badhaka theory overrules yogakarka theory. For example - for kumbha lagna venus is badhkesh, now will it cease to work as yogakarka? If yes, and Parashar could have stated while, defining yogakarka fundamentals. Badhaka theory is primarily defined by Prasna Marg and that too has additional conditions required for badhaka. OR badhaka house can exist with yogakarka planet, where badhakesh has no role!!! regards / Prafulla Gang Live every day as if it were your last, because one of these days, it will be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Dear Ranjan ji I agree, it must be observed in charts, and based upon experience only - we must draw conclusions. Yes, Badhaka rashi / house concept is fine..but will it override yoga graha..In my limited experience, I found yogagraha sukra quite delivering well for kumbha lagna - instead of creating badha for the natives. I look forward to hear from experience of other astrologers. Prashan Marg has linked badhaka to additional condition of kharesh and to the curses of the chart. Parashari is silent on it. So Badhaka rashi can have its role in its dasha etc; but Badhkesh need not be damaging planet, if it is yogakarka for specific lagna. Coming to the interesting points you raised on karako bhava nasho read with modified definition per chara karaka ( I infact, do not consider it for chart reading unless there are afflictions to such planet and bhava. For me - It is less preferred positioning for a karaka - as if afflicted in transit / natal - the entire karaka gets spoiled, as bahava and karaka both will be afflicted at the same time, without saving grace. Else - it does not damage the house, on its own). regards / Prafulla Gang Live every day as if it were your last, because one of these days, it will be. > > jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com > Tue, 04 Jul 2006 22:46:18 -0000 > > Re: Yogakarka becoming Badhkesh (Technical - different > viewpoint) > > Prafulla, > > A few points from memory, so do check to see if my calcified old > neurons are playing tricks! > > My bias is to go to BPHS generally because I consider it the most > transparent, comprehensive and well-organized treatise. Although > badhakasthana is mentioned in other texts too, Parashara specifically > discusses it in the context of rashi dashas, particularly chara. > Badhakesha is not specifically mentioned. Maybe I read too much in > that but maybe research-minded can see if in a nativity's experience, > the planets in badhaksthana are more vicious or the otherwise > unafflicted badhasthana adhipati. Again, a few charts would need to > be tested before making up the mind. > > I know given the general jyotish framework this may sound > counterintuitive (after all isn't the king the same as the nation he > rules over? But, is he? Always??). > > Two thoughts I would like to inject here: Give the 'karako > bhavnashaya' theory a look with charak karakas (I prefer 7) and also > the kujavata ketu, sanivad rahu's applicability more in the rashi > dasha context. > > I will now go sit like a good boy at the back of the class, before > the headmaster spots me and comes at me with his cane! > > RR > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Members >> >> I request members to share their experiences of yogakarka becoming > badhkesh. Parashar does not suggest that badhaka theory overrules > yogakarka theory. For example - for kumbha lagna venus is badhkesh, > now will it cease to work as yogakarka? If yes, and Parashar could > have stated while, defining yogakarka fundamentals. Badhaka theory is > primarily defined by Prasna Marg and that too has additional > conditions required for badhaka. OR badhaka house can exist with > yogakarka planet, where badhakesh has no role!!! >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> Live every day as if it were your last, because one of these days, > it will be. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Dear Srihaneshh ji Many thanks for sharing your experience. No, I am not mixing it. While looking at a role of a planet, we often get to see many roles (e.g. yoga karaka, badhakesh etc). I am just seeking fellow members' experience. Even I think the same that yogakaraka will prevail. Yes, there has been threads on this on vedic-astroogy group and many of the thread, I have been participant too. Could you see any consensus on the thread? regards / Prafulla Gang We all have our time machines. Some take us back, They're called memories. Some take us forward, they're called dreams. > > sriganeshh > Wed, 05 Jul 2006 05:22:36 -0000 > > Re: Yogakarka becoming Badhkesh (Technical - viewpoints) > > Prafullaji, > > adding to your post...i also seen sukra delivering quite exceptionally > well for kumbha lagna...the mahadasha and antars are always quite good > so far...abt his bhadaka aspect..i had not seen much... > but one basic question for my understanding.? is it not we are mixing > two different theories..? i have seen some threads on this same topic > in vedic astrology as well as jyotish vidya groups...can you more > light on this please? > > sriganeshh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Dear Ranjan ji Yes, badhaka raashi works as badhakasthana..and planets positioned there can be affected.Not the Badhkesh. I did observe sometimes back, mars in 9th for leo lagna giving good results.. regards / Prafulla Gang We all have our time machines. Some take us back, They're called memories. Some take us forward, they're called dreams. > > jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com > Wed, 05 Jul 2006 23:00:15 -0000 > > Re: Yogakarka becoming Badhkesh (Technical - different > viewpoint) > > Prafulla, > > Let me restate. What I was trying to say was that perhaps ruler of > badhakasthana (badhakesha) does not turn into a malefic just by > owning the badhaksthana! Badhaksthana on the other hand could be a > malefic zone. > > Another way to test this would be cases where otherwise untainted > yogakarakas or other yoga-giving planets end up in an otherwise good > place, like the 9th or 7th in fixed or dwiswabhava lagna charts. > Would the presence of such beneficial planets in the badhaka zone > take away some of their beneficience? > > Happy researching! > > RR > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Ranjan ji >> >> I agree, it must be observed in charts, and based upon experience > only - we must draw conclusions. Yes, Badhaka rashi / house concept > is fine..but will it override yoga graha..In my limited experience, I > found yogagraha sukra quite delivering well for kumbha lagna - > instead of creating badha for the natives. I look forward to hear > from experience of other astrologers. >> >> Prashan Marg has linked badhaka to additional condition of kharesh > and to the curses of the chart. Parashari is silent on it. So Badhaka > rashi can have its role in its dasha etc; but Badhkesh need not be > damaging planet, if it is yogakarka for specific lagna. >> >> Coming to the interesting points you raised on karako bhava nasho > read with modified definition per chara karaka ( I infact, do not > consider it for chart reading unless there are afflictions to such > planet and bhava. For me - It is less preferred positioning for a > karaka - as if afflicted in transit / natal - the entire karaka gets > spoiled, as bahava and karaka both will be afflicted at the same > time, without saving grace. Else - it does not damage the house, on > its own). >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> Live every day as if it were your last, because one of these days, > it will be. >> >> >>> >>> jyotish_vani >>> Tue, 04 Jul 2006 22:46:18 -0000 >>> >>> Re: Yogakarka becoming Badhkesh (Technical - > different >>> viewpoint) >>> >>> Prafulla, >>> >>> A few points from memory, so do check to see if my calcified old >>> neurons are playing tricks! >>> >>> My bias is to go to BPHS generally because I consider it the most >>> transparent, comprehensive and well-organized treatise. Although >>> badhakasthana is mentioned in other texts too, Parashara > specifically >>> discusses it in the context of rashi dashas, particularly chara. >>> Badhakesha is not specifically mentioned. Maybe I read too much in >>> that but maybe research-minded can see if in a nativity's > experience, >>> the planets in badhaksthana are more vicious or the otherwise >>> unafflicted badhasthana adhipati. Again, a few charts would need > to >>> be tested before making up the mind. >>> >>> I know given the general jyotish framework this may sound >>> counterintuitive (after all isn't the king the same as the nation > he >>> rules over? But, is he? Always??). >>> >>> Two thoughts I would like to inject here: Give the 'karako >>> bhavnashaya' theory a look with charak karakas (I prefer 7) and > also >>> the kujavata ketu, sanivad rahu's applicability more in the rashi >>> dasha context. >>> >>> I will now go sit like a good boy at the back of the class, before >>> the headmaster spots me and comes at me with his cane! >>> >>> RR >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> >>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Dear Members >>>> >>>> I request members to share their experiences of yogakarka > becoming >>> badhkesh. Parashar does not suggest that badhaka theory overrules >>> yogakarka theory. For example - for kumbha lagna venus is > badhkesh, >>> now will it cease to work as yogakarka? If yes, and Parashar could >>> have stated while, defining yogakarka fundamentals. Badhaka > theory is >>> primarily defined by Prasna Marg and that too has additional >>> conditions required for badhaka. OR badhaka house can exist with >>> yogakarka planet, where badhakesh has no role!!! >>>> >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang >>>> >>>> Live every day as if it were your last, because one of these > days, >>> it will be. >>>> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Dear Members, Date of Birth - !3 Nov 1962 Time - 8:43 am Place - Allahabad He is a Scorpio Ascendant. Moon for Scorpio lagna is a badhak as the ninth house lord. In this particular case it is exalted and vargottam. Will it give good results in its antar currently running? Or as badhak and so strong become a more powerful badhak.If we apply the principal of malefic if strong becomes more powerful to create more harm? According to me if a planet becomes vargottam the dosha is not there. Please help me in my quest to learn and reason. Vatsala Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Members I request members to share their experiences of yogakarka becoming badhkesh. Parashar does not suggest that badhaka theory overrules yogakarka theory. For example - for kumbha lagna venus is badhkesh, now will it cease to work as yogakarka? If yes, and Parashar could have stated while, defining yogakarka fundamentals. Badhaka theory is primarily defined by Prasna Marg and that too has additional conditions required for badhaka. OR badhaka house can exist with yogakarka planet, where badhakesh has no role!!! regards / Prafulla Gang Live every day as if it were your last, because one of these days, it will be. India Answers: Share what you know. Learn something new Click here Catch all the FIFA World Cup 2006 action on India Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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