Shivam Posted July 4, 2006 Report Share Posted July 4, 2006 Is he the Sun-God who Krsna told the BG to originally? Isn't Surya-Narayana also Visnu(Krsna)? Is he worshipable according to ISKCON (Like SitaRama, RadheKrishna, Jagannatha?) ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narayani Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Hare Krsna, Here is a quote from a lecture Srila Prabhupada gave: Prabhupada: So Bhagavan means the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Absolute Truth is realized in three phases: brahmeti paramatmeti bhagavan iti sabdyate [sB 1.2.11]. Absolute Truth can be realized in the beginning as impersonal Brahman, which is the objective of the jnanis, and next, Paramatma, which is the objective of the yogis, and at last, the last word in the absolute understanding is person, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Ultimate issue is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, just like we understand that in the sun globe there is the Supreme Person or the surya-narayana, or the chief person within the sun planet. His name is also given in the Bhagavad-gita-Vivasvan. The Lord says in the Fourth Chapter, imam vivasvate yogam proktavan aham avyayam: [bg. 4.1] "I first of all explained this science, this yoga system of Bhagavad-gita, to Vivasvan, the sun-god." Vivasvan manave prahur manur iksvakave 'bravit. And Vivasvan, the sun-god, he explained to Manu, and Manu explained to his son. In this way, by the disciplic succession the knowledge has come down. So when we speak of jnana, knowledge, it must be learned from a person. So Bhagavan, the last word in the understanding of Absolute Truth, He says in this Bhagavad-gita. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivam Posted July 6, 2006 Author Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Hare Krsna,Here is a quote from a lecture Srila Prabhupada gave: Prabhupada: So Bhagavan means the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Absolute Truth is realized in three phases: brahmeti paramatmeti bhagavan iti sabdyate [sB 1.2.11]. Absolute Truth can be realized in the beginning as impersonal Brahman, which is the objective of the jnanis, and next, Paramatma, which is the objective of the yogis, and at last, the last word in the absolute understanding is person, the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Ultimate issue is the Supreme Personality of Godhead, just like we understand that in the sun globe there is the Supreme Person or the surya-narayana, or the chief person within the sun planet. His name is also given in the Bhagavad-gita-Vivasvan. The Lord says in the Fourth Chapter, imam vivasvate yogam proktavan aham avyayam: [bg. 4.1] "I first of all explained this science, this yoga system of Bhagavad-gita, to Vivasvan, the sun-god." Vivasvan manave prahur manur iksvakave 'bravit. And Vivasvan, the sun-god, he explained to Manu, and Manu explained to his son. In this way, by the disciplic succession the knowledge has come down. So when we speak of jnana, knowledge, it must be learned from a person. So Bhagavan, the last word in the understanding of Absolute Truth, He says in this Bhagavad-gita. Hope this helps. Yes this helps but Vivasvan(Surya-Narayana) is Krishna himself correct? Hare Krsna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
narayani Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 Hare Krsna, The sun god, Vivisvan, is a very advanced jiva-atma appointed by Lord Sri Krsna with the governance of the sun planet. He is an individual entity. Technically, one could say that everything is made of God’s energy, and therefore indirectly everything is God. Yet at the same time everything is not God. A simplified example of this concept is sunshine. The sunshine is different from the sun, yet the sunshine is nothing but the sun. It is simultaneously one and different. This is acintya-bhedabheda-tattva. Simultaneously one with and different from Krsna. Each living entity is a part and parcel of the Lord but is still an eternal individual. From Isopanisad: oḿ pūrṇam adaḥ pūrṇam idaḿ pūrṇāt pūrṇam udacyate pūrṇasya pūrṇam ādāya pūrṇam evāvaśiṣyate The Personality of Godhead is perfect and complete, and because He is completely perfect, all emanations from Him, such as this phenomenal world, are perfectly equipped as complete wholes. Whatever is produced of the Complete Whole is also complete in itself. Because He is the Complete Whole, even though so many complete units emanate from Him, He remains the complete balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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