Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 but maybe in some way suffering and purifying may not be opposites. as in the end i think both eventually bring you closer to God. , "gabilu27" <gabilu27 wrote: > > Hi Melissa, > > I think suffering is the opposite of purifying as it shows that we are attached to whatever is > making us suffer. Mantras are purfying, tapasya is purifying, seva is purifying. > > Jai Maa, > Gauri > , "Melissa" <honor@> wrote: > > > > > > As I was reading the below post I thought about suffering..... > > is suffering a way to purifying one self/soul? > > > > a humble student > > melissa > > > > > > , "Nanda" <chandimaakijai@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Parvati wrote on what Swamiji said: > > > The entire sadhana of bringing the Goddess into our lives is the > > way we accomplish the objective of attaining indifference to each and > > every object of existence. The indifference is not the kind of > > indifference that says," I don't care about it." It is the > > indifference that says, "I am not attached to it. > > > I am the witness of the changes. If I say, "Don't change then I am > > going to feel pain because change is HER nature. Change she will and > > change she must because that is HER Nature. " > > > > > > > > > Namaste Parvati, > > > Great Post! Thanks for sharing Swamiji's words on the verses from > > the > > > Kilakam. > > > > > > When I read your post and meditated on the words, something just > > clicked when I redefined the term for myself. > > > > > > In worldly terms, indifference means "I dont care" > > > In spiritual terms, indifference means " I DO care, but I DONT > > suffer" > > > > > > Many a time, our "caring" just results in pain for ourselves and for > > > others. It is a good reminder then not to confuse "caring" and > > > "suffering". A timely reminder too, that repeated Sadhana will > > bring us to such a place of spiritual indifference. > > > > > > Thanks and Jai Maa. > > > Nanda > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Jai Maa! I agree that suffering eventually brings us closer to God, although in a roundabout way; eventually we realize the attachmet and tire of it. We choose to take the path away from it. Finding God this way is like taking the long way home. Performing austerities is sometimes considered suffering inthe West because we are a society of convenience and comfort. Jai Guru! Jaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaai Maa! , "ecjensen_us" <ecjensen_us wrote: > > but maybe in some way suffering and purifying may not be opposites. > as in the end i think both eventually bring you closer to God. > > , "gabilu27" <gabilu27@> wrote: > > > > Hi Melissa, > > > > I think suffering is the opposite of purifying as it shows that we > are attached to whatever is > > making us suffer. Mantras are purfying, tapasya is purifying, > seva is purifying. > > > > Jai Maa, > > Gauri > > , "Melissa" <honor@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > As I was reading the below post I thought about suffering..... > > > is suffering a way to purifying one self/soul? > > > > > > a humble student > > > melissa > > > > > > > > > , "Nanda" <chandimaakijai@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Parvati wrote on what Swamiji said: > > > > The entire sadhana of bringing the Goddess into our lives is > the > > > way we accomplish the objective of attaining indifference to > each and > > > every object of existence. The indifference is not the kind of > > > indifference that says," I don't care about it." It is the > > > indifference that says, "I am not attached to it. > > > > I am the witness of the changes. If I say, "Don't change then > I am > > > going to feel pain because change is HER nature. Change she will > and > > > change she must because that is HER Nature. " > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaste Parvati, > > > > Great Post! Thanks for sharing Swamiji's words on the verses > from > > > the > > > > Kilakam. > > > > > > > > When I read your post and meditated on the words, something > just > > > clicked when I redefined the term for myself. > > > > > > > > In worldly terms, indifference means "I dont care" > > > > In spiritual terms, indifference means " I DO care, but I > DONT > > > suffer" > > > > > > > > Many a time, our "caring" just results in pain for ourselves > and for > > > > others. It is a good reminder then not to confuse "caring" and > > > > "suffering". A timely reminder too, that repeated Sadhana > will > > > bring us to such a place of spiritual indifference. > > > > > > > > Thanks and Jai Maa. > > > > Nanda > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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