punch in the stomach

[Guest guest]

Sat Nam,

I was wondering if anyone knows what is happening in the following situation or has had a similar situation occur:

When talking with a person I have felt like a punch in the stomach/gut area, and a few seconds later the other person puts their hand over their belly, It feels like an immediate loss of energy.

TIA, Lynette

 

 

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360°: Your own space to share what you want with who you want!

[Guest guest]

Dear Lynnette:

 

 

 

When we talk to each other, there's an energy exchange that goes beyond just

words. If an emotion is not acknowledged at least inwardly by the person who

speaks, the listener(s) may feel it. If one of the listeners feels it and

allows it, it relaxes the space of the relationship between all those

involved in this exchange, so the speaker now has an opportunity to feel.

 

 

 

Here's what I experienced once. I was going through a separation. At the

time I was writing about my experiences in order to understand them. I did

not know about meditation or yoga yet. So I set up a situation where a man

was talking to a woman friend of his about his relationship struggle. I was

writing fictionally in order to hopefully go somewhere deeper with it than I

was able to experience in my life. In the story, the woman excuses herself

and throws up. I did not know where to go with this. I let it rest in the

hope that something would clear up.

 

 

 

I forgot about my piece of writing when I was talk with a mutual friend, say

Sue, of myself and the woman I was separating with, say Lillian. At some

point Sue asked me about Lillian and I. I expressed it the best way I could.

And Sue excused herself to go to the bathroom. When she came back she told

me she suddenly had to throw up, she did not even relate it to what I was

speaking about. Then the story I had written came back to me. At the time I

could only think: "Wow! I really need to pay attention to this!" I could

not feel how upset I was about the whole thing. The external world gave me

that feedback. In physics we learn that no energy is lost. This is the way

we experience it as human beings.

 

 

 

Another experience. I was at a retreat to learn a healing practice called

the Rosen method. Part of the way this modality is taught is by doing

check-ins and each person who checks in practices to be in the moment and as

best they can express how they feel. The leaders teach us to be in the

moment by showing us how they accept whatever IS right now and sometimes by

inviting us out of our mental analysis and back in our body experience. The

Rosen approach we were told is done by the practitioner with unconditional

love. One of the participants shared in our check-in that she was scared of

anything that claimed to come from love. One of the facilitators

acknowledged this by reflecting that there is love and there is Love. That

sometimes people will say they love you but will really be very conditional

about it and it hurts. But unconditional love was different. The participant

became quite flustered and could not go there. The facilitator tried to

explain it a different way but without success. So then someone said: "May I

say something?" And everyone wanted to hear. So this person said to the

struggling participant: "When you shared what you shared I felt deep pain in

my heart!" The participant started to cry immediately and she was able to

accept love as we went on with the retreat.

 

 

 

This is an example of what Gururattana just expressed in her most recent

comment about Sat Nam Rasayan. I paraphrase: If we can feel our sensation

space as we speak with each other and allow that to guide the conversation

we are guided by deeper sense of truth.

 

 

 

Blessings,

 

Awtar

[Guest guest]

Hi Doc,

 

You pretty much answered your own question. If you can't avoid this

person find out what the key is - that is what they are using to

connect with you and grab your energy. It might be eye contact, a

certain amount of space, a verbal que. Do you have any history of

boundary violation in your life?

 

Kundaliniyoga, Lynette Wallace

<doctorlynette wrote:

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> Sat Nam,

>

> I was wondering if anyone knows what is happening in the

following situation or has had a similar situation occur:

>

> When talking with a person I have felt like a punch in the

stomach/gut area, and a few seconds later the other person puts

their hand over their belly, It feels like an immediate loss of

energy.

>

> TIA, Lynette

>

>

>

>

> On 7

> 360°: Your own space to share what you want with who you

want!

>

>

[Guest guest]

This is very fascinating from the point of view of disease prevention etc and energy interactions within families. For example one spouse develops cancer or becomes sick. It makes you want to think very careefully about who you are iinteracting with.

So what makes a person so sensitive at feeling their environment? and the interactions in a group?

Osho in one of his books has suggested that meditation makes you very vulnerable to the arrows of thoughts of others and talks about the need for psychic protection by imagining a psychic barrier around yourself everynight before you go to sleep. My 4 year old son talks about people either having "tops" on their heads or no "tops". My children are VERY sensitive and I notice a profound change in their behaviour depending on who they are around. Also if they are away from me for periods of about a week they inevitably end up with the flu or vomiting.

Is there any mantras which can help in this regard?

 

kundalini_yoga (AT) hotmail (DOT) com wrote:

Dear Lynnette:

 

When we talk to each other, there's an energy exchange that goes beyond just

words. If an emotion is not acknowledged at least inwardly by the person who

speaks, the listener(s) may feel it. If one of the listeners feels it

[Guest guest]

Dear Lynette:

 

 

 

Dear Lynette:

 

 

 

"This is very fascinating from the point of view of disease prevention etc

and energy interactions within families. For example one spouse develops

cancer or becomes sick."

 

 

 

Yes interactions between family members are interesting. We get into roles

and play in a drama unless we become aware of what is going on. Then we can

choose to play the drama to bring awareness or choose to rebel out of the

drama, or just laugh. It can all be done very appropriately in a healing way

for all concerned.

 

Diseases have a way to bring everyone out of the current drama. The level of

attachment to the current drama makes people receptive or not to facing the

new situation. It is very useful for awareness. It is an opportunity to

break out of the endless drama and bring more love into our relationships to

self and others.

 

 

 

"It makes you want to think very carefully about who you are interacting

with."

 

 

 

Yes. Trust your inner voice/guidance.

 

"So what makes a person so sensitive at feeling their environment? and the

interactions in a group? "

 

 

 

People with a 9 in their numerology (except for the month) tend to be more

sensitive to their environment because the 9 is associated with the subtle

body. But everyone has a subtle body and this ability is wired in. We are

one. This is one of the ways that we can experience this oneness. It is not

a negative trait; it is what makes us human beings.

 

 

 

"Osho in one of his books has suggested that meditation makes you very

vulnerable to the arrows of thoughts of others and talks about the need for

psychic protection by imagining a psychic barrier around yourself every

night before you go to sleep. My 4 year old son talks about people either

having "tops" on their heads or no "tops". My children are VERY sensitive

and I notice a profound change in their behaviour depending on who they are

around. Also if they are away from me for periods of about a week they

inevitably end up with the flu or vomiting."

 

 

 

Ask your kids why they get the flu or vomit when you are away. Is it the

people around them or is it that they miss you?

 

I want to ask your 4 yr old about his experience of people with "tops" on or

no "tops" on.

 

 

"Is there any mantras which can help in this regard?"

 

 

 

Before using a mantra, what is the real issue? If you are talking about your

kids getting the flu when you are away, then ask them what they need when

you leave them with others for a week. They know.

 

A general mantra for protection is: Aad Gurray Nameh; Jugaad Gurray Nameh;

Sat Gurray Nameh; Siri Guru Devay Nameh.

 

Developing the aura (most of Kundalini yoga does this as it strengthens the

nervous system) and the arc line helps prevent diseases.

 

One exercise for the arc line is as follows. It is called the Dhrib Dhristi

Lochina Karma Kriya ( I googled this and found a description slightly less

precise than the one I got from one of Nirvair Singh's books: the 10 light

bodies, but the effects of this kriya are well described at that site):

 

Jaw position: Place your front teeth gently behind and against the fourth

lower part of the top teeth. Press your tongue against the roof of your

mouth without making your tongue sore!

 

Eyes: Eyes 9/10 closed, gaze at the tip of the nose.

 

Posture: Easy pose, straight spine, hands in Gyan mudra (thumbs and index

tips pressed together, other fingers straight)

 

Chant: Mentally and silently project SA TA NA MA out of the third eye

whether you inhale or exhale.

 

Breath: normal or slow and deep

 

Time:17 minutes

 

Very powerful, bringing an experience of mellow peaceful awakening (my

experience). You may experience the pure effect of this kriya without having

to repeat it many times.

 

 

 

Blessings, Awtar