Official Ramakanta vs. IRM discussion thread

July 12, 2006

Dear Yaduraja Prabhu, PAMHO. AGTSP!

I don't assume your argument is "Our claims are proven because Ramakanta is

defeated". So what is the purpose of saying that I am defeated?

On April 27, 2006 I asked you:

"Do you claim that in 1966 Srila Prabhupada wanted to be the sole diksa guru

for ISKCON?"

And you answered:

"YES."

You have not limited the time period. Therefore your claim includes

following claim:

"In 1966 Srila Prabhupada wanted to be the sole diksa guru for ISKCON for

its entire duration."

So far you have not proven that claim. Neither did you write that you do not

claim it. Since I do not expect that you will ever prove it, I will no

longer ask you to prove it. I have filed it to "IRM's unproven claims".

This finishes the discussion of your point a).

Let us now move to your point b).

On April 2, 2006 you wrote:

> > you are actually claiming that until today Srila Prabhupada did not

> > authorize any person to be a diksa guru in ISKCON.

>

> That is correct.

You can only credibly claim that a certain thing never happened if you

exactly know how it would happen, or if you have heard from an authority

that it never happened. (Please tell me if you don't agree with that.)

You claimed that until today Srila Prabhupada did not authorize anyone to be

diksa-guru. Therefore, you either exactly know how this authorization

happens, or Srila Prabhupada said that it did not and will not happen. Srila

Prabhupada did not say that. So please explain how such an authorization

happens in Srila Prabhupada's presence and absence. If you cannot explain it

and confirm it by quotes, then your claim it meaningless because then you

don't know what you are talking about.

ys Ramakanta dasa

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