Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Hi , This is Prabhakar. In my office i have come across a different person - who is a catholic christian. We just shared our knoweldge about religion. 1. My Christian friend told me that there is only one birth for everyone in the world. 2. God will forgive what ever the sin that you have done in the current birth. 3. Christianity dont have the concept of re-birth. But I told god will always punish the bad people. 1. Hinduism - strongly believe in re-birth. 2. If you do lot of badthings in this life you will be re-born again to pay the penality. Then my christian friend asked me do you know about Re-incarnation ? Since I dont have the much knowledge about re-incarnation ? Please explain ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 SrI: SRImathE Ramanujaya namah: Dear Sri Prabhakar Good question. I have come across also such people As\ctually, it is karma and variuos births that would solve all differences that we c in the world. Why should God create someone as beggar or pigs or dogs? or someone as Prince or President? Why should He be partial to few? why should there be difference at all? All karma from past births resolve this Ask your friend: how does Jesus adminsiter for these difference? if there is only one birth, where is the redemption for the dog or beggar? or someone who is not even a catholic:-) IS God so partial? As per them, if one believes and devoted to Jesus, they go to heaven if not hell then, where is the sloution? Is God so merciless? Hope this helps Regards namo narayana dAsan , "chandrahasan prabhakar" <cprabhakar wrote: > > Hi , This is Prabhakar. In my office i have come across a different person > - who is a catholic christian. > > We just shared our knoweldge about religion. > > 1. My Christian friend told me that there is only one birth for everyone in > the world. > 2. God will forgive what ever the sin that you have done in the current > birth. > 3. Christianity dont have the concept of re-birth. > > But I told god will always punish the bad people. > > 1. Hinduism - strongly believe in re-birth. > 2. If you do lot of badthings in this life you will be re-born again to pay > the penality. > > Then my christian friend asked me do you know about Re- incarnation ? > > Since I dont have the much knowledge about re-incarnation ? Please explain ? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2006 Report Share Posted July 13, 2006 Dear Sri Prabhakar, My views on incarnation. Bible and other religious texts are all come under paurusheya works which has lot of limitations in veracity of its context. We Indians view/grasp ideas from such agama in the light of what apourusheya shruti says as shruti is infallible and authorless(thus does not has defects that an author possess). So, if any agama is in line with and giving out the meanings same as vedas, we take it, else we drop it. There are sadagamas and duragamas likewise. 1 - 3: If god forgives sins committed in one birth and sends him to heaven there would be no concept of hell. As far as I think christianity has a concept of Hell. Going by one birth theory, and the 'assured moksha' for all, the world may witness more of sinners than human beings. There is the flaw. As far as reincarnation is concerned, I think it is a very loosely translated word of 'avatar'. Incarnation is process whereby an entity(Lord) beyond the cycle of births/deaths takes a form which is aprakruthik, to mingle with prakruthik entities. The purpose is to restore world order and to protect good souls. Thus Janma and the incarnation is entirely two different aspects, just like jeeva and paramathma. I think it is only incarnation and why to get confused with the word - reincarnation. But we do have rebirth concept. The best option is to refer Bhagavadgita in which we can elicit enough information on these things. But much depends on how he takes our words, as he may not have 'adhikara'(fittedness) to enther to know or to appreciate the esoteric tenets of our infallible apourusheya text. regards sukumar , "chandrahasan prabhakar" <cprabhakar wrote: > > Hi , This is Prabhakar. In my office i have come across a different person > - who is a catholic christian. > > We just shared our knoweldge about religion. > > 1. My Christian friend told me that there is only one birth for everyone in > the world. > 2. God will forgive what ever the sin that you have done in the current > birth. > 3. Christianity dont have the concept of re-birth. > > But I told god will always punish the bad people. > > 1. Hinduism - strongly believe in re-birth. > 2. If you do lot of badthings in this life you will be re-born again to pay > the penality. > > Then my christian friend asked me do you know about Re- incarnation ? > > Since I dont have the much knowledge about re-incarnation ? Please explain ? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 14, 2006 Report Share Posted July 14, 2006 Dear Prabhakar, Sri Madhavakkannan (whom I know from Singapore!) and Sri Sukumar have given some excellent explanations. Wrt the question, "Then my christian friend asked me do you know about Re-incarnation ?", one of my friends gave an interesting explanation. If you send a fax, you can get a confirmation for the receipt of the fax by ringing the receiving person and cross-checking. In database and other Information technology (computer science, etc) areas, there are well defined protocols for verification and validation (typically called, handshaking, commit-protocols, etc). Obviously this friend of mine is an IT guy. However, it does not answer the query. He then elaborated as follows: You have different sensors and media for communication, verification, etc. One cannot see a fax being sent, so one uses a different channel for verification. One cannot see microwaves, but rice cooks well in microwave oven also and one feels this through different sensors. The truth about re-incarnation will be felt only by those who have these types of sensors (read, knowledge, wisdom and the Lord's grace). For example, Bhisma knew long time back who Karna was. The hunter who sent the arrow at Lord Krishna's toe did not know who he was, until Krishna Himself told him (that he is the re-incarnation of Vali from Ramayana period). It is said that Thyagaraja (of the sankeertha mummoorthy) is a re-incarnation of Valmiki (and people say that he knew that himself, while he was alive). Indeed, even during the Mahabharata war, Arjuna wanted to see Krishna in His full form - i.e., Vishwaroopa darsanam. With his human eyes, Arjuna cannot see Vishwaroopa darsanam. So the Lord gave him a special visualization mechanism to see Him. (Hum, this also perhaps encourages us to do eye or organ donation!). Does this answer your query Prabhakar? dasan Lakshminarasimhan (Western Kentucky) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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