Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 HARI OM TAT SAT HARI OM SHRI SELVAJI LIKEN THE WHOLE PANTHEON OF GODHEAD AND GODHEADS TO THE SUN METAPHORICALLY THERE WILL BE NO CONFUSION AT ALL THE ELEMENT OF ANY DOUBT OR MISAPPREHENSION IS IN THE MIND OF THE ONE WHO IS NOT WITH PURITY OR UNITY IN SHORT THOUGHT DOES NOT NECESSARILY HAVE A SEPARATE EXISTENCE BUT IS LINKED TO JIVA IN ALL ITS MULTIFACETED WORKING IN THE CONSCIOUSNESS OF THE NOW AND HERE AND ALSO ON OTHER DIMENSIONS AND PLANES OF CONSCIOUSNESS THIS IS THE CLOSEST APPROACH TO THE PURANAS AND UNDERSTANDING IT SINCE THE CONCEPTS WERE CRYSTAL CLEAR AND MINDS IN MORE PRISTINE STATE THAN NOW... HOPE THIS CLEARS THE AIR . SATHYASAI BABA HAS SPELT IT OUT VERY CLEARLY IN HIS DISCOURSES WHERE HE TALKS ABOUT THE INCEPTION AND THE BEGINNING OF ALL INTELLIGENCE AND KNOWLEDGE, WHICH AS WE ALL KNOW IS IN THE FIELD WHERE THOUGHT OPERATES YOURS-N-OMNAMASHIVAYAFRATERNITY Nayanika -- In , "Pradeep Balakrishnan" <balakrishnanpradeep wrote: > > Hari Om! Hari Om Tat Sat! > > > > Dear Shri Selvaji, please accept my respectful pranams and namaskarams! > > > > Dhandavat! Dasomsi! > > > > My self agrees with your viewpoint and I did express in one earlier email > thread viz a viz Christian aggression in tirupathi that the treatments that > went out to me when my family visited Tirupathi. I was wearing Rudraksha but > had Sri Krishna tilak. Some jivas end up having both the deeksha's (Hari > and Hara) from their gurunathas based on their past purva janma sukurtham. > > > > Lord Shri Shiva is the biggest Vaishnava (many of my shaivaite friends do > observe nir jala ekadashi every month) and Lord Shri Hari is the biggest > Shaivaite worship where some of my vaishnavas friends do observe the Maha > Shiva Ratri with much respect and bhakthi than some regular shaivaites. > > > > To see a difference in HARI-HREEM-HARA ends that jiva in HELL (14 levels > courtesy Gaurda Puranam) until pralaya as said by Lord Shri Maha Vishnu > himself. ThathaAstu!!! > > > > I do adore all Puranas and respect them!!! > > > > My self does bow to the Lord Shri Tatpursha in you! > > > > Subham Dinam Astu! > > Sarvam Sri Krishna Arpanamastu! > > Om Nama Shivaya Shivaya Namah Om! > > > > _____ > > > [] On Behalf Of Selvaratnam > Selvakumar > Friday, July 07, 2006 8:13 AM > > RE: Misunderstanding created by the > Puranas > > > > Om Namah Sivaya > > > > Dear Sri Lakshmi, > > > > I did not say Puranas are useless, they can certainly create confusions. > There is a misconception even among many Hindus that Hinduism is > Polytheistic. Hindus were never polytheistic in the sense that there are > many equal Gods, the trinity of Brahma, Vishnu and Rudra are based on > stories from Puranas. However you will find in the famous Vedic verse > (Maitri Upanishad 5.2) "That part of Him which is characterized by tama is > called Rudra. That part of Him which belongs to rajas is Brahma. That part > of Him which belongs to sattva is Vishnu." Is this a prayer to a trinity of > three Gods? (certainly not, it is a prayer of adoration to the One Supreme > Lord). Saiva Agamas say in clear terms that Siva Himself manifested into > every visible forms with His own power Sakti. Not only puranic stories > create misunderstanding they can also cause bloodshed, there was heavy > battles between Saivites and Vaishnavites regarding superiority of their > Gods in the middle ages in South India and thousands of people died. However > Great Saivites and Vaishnavites saints restored peace. Do you know > Chidambaram Nataraja Temple in South India?, one of the great Saivite > Temples, there was no Vishnu shrine inside the temple originally but by the > request of a great Rishi (to bring harmony between both communities) it was > later built. You will also find shrines dedicated to Vishnu in many Siva > temples in South India by the request of Saivite saints, but you could > hardly find shrines dedicated to Lord Siva inside Vaishnavite temples > because they heavily rely on puranic stories and majority of them are narrow > minded and often insult Lord Siva and His Devotees, not only that there are > many divisions within Vaishnavism mainly due different interpretations of > puranic stories. > > > > Beginners in the spiritual path are puzzled when they go through Siva Purana > and Vishnu Purana. In Siva Purana, Lord Siva is highly eulogised and an > inferior position is given to Lord Vishnu. Sometimes Vishnu is belittled. In > Vishnu Purana, Lord Hari is highly eulogised and an inferior status is given > to Lord Siva. Sometimes Lord Siva is belittled. This is only to increase the > faith of the devotees in their particular Ishta-Devata. Lord Siva and Lord > Vishnu are one. > > > > I do have a series of audio cassettes on Skanda Purana and the lectures were > given by a great Saivite saint. At the end of the lectures he said the > essence of Skanda Purana is to illustrate the truth that when Jiva attains > Jnana (Divine Wisdom) it becomes free from impurities, namely Anava (ego), > Karma and Maya and hence reunites with Sivam. There are many stories in this > Purana says exactly the same thing. I have also briefly read Siva Purana and > Srimad Bhagavata. One has to look for the hidden meaning of a puranic story > rather than blindly believe it, for example there is a story which says > three giants by the power of penance ruled over three cities with three > flying fortresses- one gold, one of silver and one of copper. Flying their > fortresses, they landed on the cities of the celestials and destroyed them. > Siva fought the three giants and reduced their three cities to ashes. People > who recount this legend do not realise that what Siva destroyed was the > triple impurities-Egoity, Karma and Maya. > > > > Sivaya Namah > > > > Lakshmi Muthuswamy <lakmuthu wrote: > > namaste Selvaratnamji, > > I dont agree with the statement that "puranic stories create > misunderstanding" > > We can call them mythology in english. > > It is these puranic stories which satisfy the fantasy of the children in the > age group of 7 to 10 before the reason begins to dawn on them. Fantasy is a > process of growing up.` > > these stories nurture them psychologically. We have all undergone these > phases ourselves withjout knowing much about them. Please read child > psychology to understand the part the puranas play in a childs life. > > > even today if some people can narrate stories we will sit and listen. > > Thanks to all the pattis and thatahs who narrated them to the children which > is missing in the modern days. > > > have you read Srimad Bhagavatam. The story of Prtaha is a story through > which the importance of environmental protection and its importance can be > taught to the children. > > For the elders when read with the back ground of Vedanta it talks about > jNanam. > > The varaha Purana has description of building a temple. > > All puranas have panca lakshanam. Five main caharcteristics. > creation, the secondary creation, Mnavantara, the dynasties, and past times > of the lord. > Every purana focus on a particular diety. There are 18 puranas. 6 for brhama > and 6 for Vishnu and 6 for Shiva. > > Skanda purana has three chapters called teh Guru Gita which gives us all > about guru and sishya qualities. > > garuda Purana has conversations with Dhavantari and gives us various > remedies for disease and yajnavalkyas treatise on Dharam conduct of life. > Then passgae of the soul afyter death a very beautiful description. > > Puranas talk about rituals, vratas, mantras, stutis, geography, yoga bhakti > Jnana and finally Ashraya support of the creator and what not. > > I can go on and on and on. > > Please make sure at least you read the Linga purana, or shiva purana or vayu > purana or Skanda puarana, at least the synopsis of a few chapters before > passing a generalised comment like this. > > pura api navam =puaranam though ancinet yet its is new > > there are very many inteersting web sites on puranas. Visit the web site on > puranas for gathering more info please. > > No offences meant please. > > with prayers > > Lakshmi Muthuswamy > > > _____ > > > > Everyone is raving about the all-new > <http://us.rd./evt=42297/*http:/advision.webevents./ handra > isers> Mail Beta. > > > > > > _____ > > The all-new > <http://us.rd./mail/uk/taglines/default/nowyoucan/free_from_i sp/*ht > tp:/us.rd./evt=40565/*http:/uk.docs./nowyoucan.html> > Mail goes wherever you go - free your email address from your > Internet provider. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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