Weekdays [Remedial / Technical/vedic history]

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Prafulla,

 

Very good question, about weekdays and when did they start coming

into vogue.

 

I am sure the scholars in ancient scriptures and karmakanda etc would

be able to shed light on this fundamental question. More

significantly, if a similar historical note can be given by those in

the know of western history who knows the reasoning behind weekdays

in their tradition. This would indeed be quite enlightening. We often

take these fundamental things as granted and never question them.

 

Like the order of rashi-rulership (this is the easiest and known to

almost everyone I am certain), the order of vimshottari dashas and

also by extension the order of nakshatras and much much more.

 

Thanks

 

RR

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Neeraj ji

>

> Some of the remedies are sugested for particular days like

saturday, tuesday etc. I am bit curious to know, if these week days

existed prior to british rule in India. I am very keen to know the

days reference in any of the texts suggesting remedies.

>

> In my understanding, these remedies are always to be done on the

constellation day of the planet !!!!

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> We all have our time machines. Some take us back, They're called

memories. Some take us forward, they're called dreams.

>

>

> >

> > gupta_neeraj_2000

> > Tue, 4 Jul 2006 22:37:56 -0700 (PDT)

> >

> > Re: Remedies for Ashtama Sani

> >

> > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

> >

> > Dear Paul,

> >

> > Following are the remedies of Ashtam Shani:

> >

> > 1. Recite Maha-Mritunjaya daily yourself. (Even if you

> > recite one mala or less).

> > 2. Read 3rd Anuvakyam of Rudram Chamakam daily 11

> > times facing towards east.

> > 3. Donate Black Til, Black Urad (pulse), Black Cloth,

> > Mustard oil on Saturdays in morning or in evening.

> > (not during afternoon)

> > 4. Recite 2 lamps on saturday in mustard oil (one near

> > peepal tree and the other one in front of Shani Dev).

> > This should be done in temple and not at home.

> > 5. Offer water to peepal tree on Saturdays.

> >

> > Results: When there is bad period (sadhesati, Ashtam

> > Shani etc), it can be completely warded off, however,

> > the evil effects or losses are lessened. For *example*

> > (instead of job loss or no income, you might be

> > working hard, putting in too much hours and getting

> > less salary). So, it is better to have something ( a

> > job with less money) instead of nothing. This was just

> > an example, so if you are experiencing problems in

> > some particular area of life, the problems will be

> > lessened to a great extent.

> >

> > Regards,

> >

> > Neeraj

> >

> > --- Paul McDonald <paulmcd wrote:

> >

> >> I'm told I'm in Ashtama Sani until July 2007. (Born

> >> Sept. 3, 1957;

> >> 21:35; Louisville, Kentucky, USA - Long. 85

> >> degrees,45'34"W Lat. 38

> >> degrees, 15'15"N; Time Zone 6h W; Daylight Savings 1

> >> hour). Recently

> >> completed 16,000 repetitions of Sani Mantra with

> >> goal of 25,000 by the

> >> first week of August. What other remedies can

> >> anyone recommend as well

> >> as what to expect?

> >>

> >> Thank you.

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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interesting file:

 

http://www.gkindia.com/holidays/weekdays.htm

 

 

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Prafulla,

>

> Very good question, about weekdays and when did they start coming

> into vogue.

>

> I am sure the scholars in ancient scriptures and karmakanda etc

would

> be able to shed light on this fundamental question. More

> significantly, if a similar historical note can be given by those

in

> the know of western history who knows the reasoning behind weekdays

> in their tradition. This would indeed be quite enlightening. We

often

> take these fundamental things as granted and never question them.

>

> Like the order of rashi-rulership (this is the easiest and known to

> almost everyone I am certain), the order of vimshottari dashas and

> also by extension the order of nakshatras and much much more.

>

> Thanks

>

> RR

>

> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Neeraj ji

> >

> > Some of the remedies are sugested for particular days like

> saturday, tuesday etc. I am bit curious to know, if these week days

> existed prior to british rule in India. I am very keen to know the

> days reference in any of the texts suggesting remedies.

> >

> > In my understanding, these remedies are always to be done on the

> constellation day of the planet !!!!

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > We all have our time machines. Some take us back, They're called

> memories. Some take us forward, they're called dreams.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > gupta_neeraj_2000@

> > > Tue, 4 Jul 2006 22:37:56 -0700 (PDT)

> > >

> > > Re: Remedies for Ashtama Sani

> > >

> > > ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

> > >

> > > Dear Paul,

> > >

> > > Following are the remedies of Ashtam Shani:

> > >

> > > 1. Recite Maha-Mritunjaya daily yourself. (Even if you

> > > recite one mala or less).

> > > 2. Read 3rd Anuvakyam of Rudram Chamakam daily 11

> > > times facing towards east.

> > > 3. Donate Black Til, Black Urad (pulse), Black Cloth,

> > > Mustard oil on Saturdays in morning or in evening.

> > > (not during afternoon)

> > > 4. Recite 2 lamps on saturday in mustard oil (one near

> > > peepal tree and the other one in front of Shani Dev).

> > > This should be done in temple and not at home.

> > > 5. Offer water to peepal tree on Saturdays.

> > >

> > > Results: When there is bad period (sadhesati, Ashtam

> > > Shani etc), it can be completely warded off, however,

> > > the evil effects or losses are lessened. For *example*

> > > (instead of job loss or no income, you might be

> > > working hard, putting in too much hours and getting

> > > less salary). So, it is better to have something ( a

> > > job with less money) instead of nothing. This was just

> > > an example, so if you are experiencing problems in

> > > some particular area of life, the problems will be

> > > lessened to a great extent.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > >

> > > Neeraj

> > >

> > > --- Paul McDonald <paulmcd@> wrote:

> > >

> > >> I'm told I'm in Ashtama Sani until July 2007. (Born

> > >> Sept. 3, 1957;

> > >> 21:35; Louisville, Kentucky, USA - Long. 85

> > >> degrees,45'34"W Lat. 38

> > >> degrees, 15'15"N; Time Zone 6h W; Daylight Savings 1

> > >> hour). Recently

> > >> completed 16,000 repetitions of Sani Mantra with

> > >> goal of 25,000 by the

> > >> first week of August. What other remedies can

> > >> anyone recommend as well

> > >> as what to expect?

> > >>

> > >> Thank you.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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dear friends

 

only nakshatra and tidhi were reckoned centuries ago. however, in

the sankalpam even day was included by saying e.g. soma vasare (for

monday). the sankalpam finds mention in the vedas and other

shastras. but not the vasare. even in the itihasas, only nakshatra

and tidhi were mentioned for births of people in those times. even

today some people in south india follow their birthdays only

according to the tidhi and nakshatra and dont follow the date or day.

 

however, in my personal understanding, there is no muhurat for doing

a good thing, and one can do any good thing any time without waiting

for a green signal from someone.

 

when one person is donating, he is giving away something as a daan.

for that he need not wait for any muhurta. muhurta is reckoned only

when one wish to attain the best result in order to get something.

if the daan is done with a view to GAIN LARGER RETURNS WITH INTEREST

AND NOT WITH A WILL TO FEED THE SUFFERING, yes a muhurta is required.

 

with best wishes

pandit arjun

 

, Prafulla Gang <jyotish

wrote:

>

> Dear Ranjan ji

>

> Few years back, I had a lengthy discussion on remedial measures

with a very good astrologer. According to him, remedies (like

fasting, charities etc) got to be done on constellation day (and in

that planet's hora)..not on respective week day. I am expecting,

exprienced members to share their views.

>

> regards / Prafulla Gang

>

> We all have our time machines. Some take us back, They're called

memories. Some take us forward, they're called dreams.

>

>

> >

> > jyotish_vani

> > Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:42:54 -0000

> >

> > Re: Weekdays [Remedial / Technical/vedic history]

> >

> > Prafulla,

> >

> > Very good question, about weekdays and when did they start coming

> > into vogue.

> >

> > I am sure the scholars in ancient scriptures and karmakanda etc

would

> > be able to shed light on this fundamental question. More

> > significantly, if a similar historical note can be given by

those in

> > the know of western history who knows the reasoning behind

weekdays

> > in their tradition. This would indeed be quite enlightening. We

often

> > take these fundamental things as granted and never question them.

> >

> > Like the order of rashi-rulership (this is the easiest and known

to

> > almost everyone I am certain), the order of vimshottari dashas

and

> > also by extension the order of nakshatras and much much more.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> >>

> >> Dear Neeraj ji

> >>

> >> Some of the remedies are sugested for particular days like

> > saturday, tuesday etc. I am bit curious to know, if these week

days

> > existed prior to british rule in India. I am very keen to know

the

> > days reference in any of the texts suggesting remedies.

> >>

> >> In my understanding, these remedies are always to be done on the

> > constellation day of the planet !!!!

> >>

> >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> >>

> >> We all have our time machines. Some take us back, They're called

> > memories. Some take us forward, they're called dreams.

> >>

> >>

> >>>

> >>> gupta_neeraj_2000@

> >>> Tue, 4 Jul 2006 22:37:56 -0700 (PDT)

> >>>

> >>> Re: Remedies for Ashtama Sani

> >>>

> >>> ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

> >>>

> >>> Dear Paul,

> >>>

> >>> Following are the remedies of Ashtam Shani:

> >>>

> >>> 1. Recite Maha-Mritunjaya daily yourself. (Even if you

> >>> recite one mala or less).

> >>> 2. Read 3rd Anuvakyam of Rudram Chamakam daily 11

> >>> times facing towards east.

> >>> 3. Donate Black Til, Black Urad (pulse), Black Cloth,

> >>> Mustard oil on Saturdays in morning or in evening.

> >>> (not during afternoon)

> >>> 4. Recite 2 lamps on saturday in mustard oil (one near

> >>> peepal tree and the other one in front of Shani Dev).

> >>> This should be done in temple and not at home.

> >>> 5. Offer water to peepal tree on Saturdays.

> >>>

> >>> Results: When there is bad period (sadhesati, Ashtam

> >>> Shani etc), it can be completely warded off, however,

> >>> the evil effects or losses are lessened. For *example*

> >>> (instead of job loss or no income, you might be

> >>> working hard, putting in too much hours and getting

> >>> less salary). So, it is better to have something ( a

> >>> job with less money) instead of nothing. This was just

> >>> an example, so if you are experiencing problems in

> >>> some particular area of life, the problems will be

> >>> lessened to a great extent.

> >>>

> >>> Regards,

> >>>

> >>> Neeraj

> >>>

> >>> --- Paul McDonald <paulmcd@> wrote:

> >>>

> >>>> I'm told I'm in Ashtama Sani until July 2007. (Born

> >>>> Sept. 3, 1957;

> >>>> 21:35; Louisville, Kentucky, USA - Long. 85

> >>>> degrees,45'34"W Lat. 38

> >>>> degrees, 15'15"N; Time Zone 6h W; Daylight Savings 1

> >>>> hour). Recently

> >>>> completed 16,000 repetitions of Sani Mantra with

> >>>> goal of 25,000 by the

> >>>> first week of August. What other remedies can

> >>>> anyone recommend as well

> >>>> as what to expect?

> >>>>

> >>>> Thank you.

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>>

> >>

>

[Guest guest]

Rohini Ranjan wrote:

 

More significantly, if a similar historical note can be given by those in

the know of western history who knows the reasoning behind weekdays in their

tradition.

 

Sari:

 

Dear Ranjan and others, this is Sari, a female astrology student from

Finland, Northern Europe.

 

The names of weekdays in most of the Indoeuropean languages come from

Scandinavian mythology, which has characters comparable to Greco-Roman

mythology.

 

Sunday - the Sun (obviously)

Monday - the Moon

Tuesday - Norwegian war god Tiw

Wednesday - Norse god Odin/Woden

Other names:

"Wodanesdag" (Germanic)

"Wodensdag" (Old English)

"Othinnsdagr" ( Old Norse)

"Onsdag" (Danish)

"Wednesday" (English)

Thursday - Norse god Thor, comparable to Zeus

Friday - Norse gods Frigg and Frija, "the queen of witches", wife of

Woden/Odin

Saturday - Saturn but also Norse god Seater. "Seater was honored

representing a time when no one was a slave, a subordinate or a superior.

He also represented a time when age, wisdom, and maturity were respected."

http://www.earth-dancing.com/laugardagr.htm

 

What's interesting, if we think about the names of the weekdays with the

planets and put them in Vimsottari dasa order starting with Jupiter, we get:

Jupiter - Thor

Saturn - Seater

Mercury - Woden/Odin

(Ketu)

Venus - Frigg/Frija

the Sun

the Moon (Luna)

Mars - Tiw

(Rahu)

 

If you know a bit music theory, compare this with the basic seven note major

scale putting Jupiter as Do:

Do - Jupiter - Thor

Re - Saturn - Seater

Mi - Mercury

(semitone Ketu)

Fa - Venus - Frigg/Frija

Sol - the Sun ("solar")

La - the Moon ("lunar")

Ti - Mars - Tiw

(semitone Rahu)

Do - Jupiter again

 

Note that Rahu and Ketu get exactly where the semitones (half-steps) of the

scale belong. It seems that there is a strange connection between the

weekdays, major scale in western music and Vimsottari dasa of Indian

astrology.

 

Best, Sari

[Guest guest]

Dear Sari,

 

Thanks for your post and underscoring the music of spheres! Wikipedia

has actually a rather extensive table of names of weekdays from many

different languages and a lot of other interesting material, such as

order of horas and the five pointed star etc (Usha Shashi's book also

describes that, I recall)

 

RR

 

, "Sari Metsovuori"

<gerdapp wrote:

>

> Rohini Ranjan wrote:

>

> More significantly, if a similar historical note can be given by

those in

> the know of western history who knows the reasoning behind weekdays

in their

> tradition.

>

> Sari:

>

> Dear Ranjan and others, this is Sari, a female astrology student

from

> Finland, Northern Europe.

>

> The names of weekdays in most of the Indoeuropean languages come

from

> Scandinavian mythology, which has characters comparable to Greco-

Roman

> mythology.

>

> Sunday - the Sun (obviously)

> Monday - the Moon

> Tuesday - Norwegian war god Tiw

> Wednesday - Norse god Odin/Woden

> Other names:

> "Wodanesdag" (Germanic)

> "Wodensdag" (Old English)

> "Othinnsdagr" ( Old Norse)

> "Onsdag" (Danish)

> "Wednesday" (English)

> Thursday - Norse god Thor, comparable to Zeus

> Friday - Norse gods Frigg and Frija, "the queen of witches", wife

of

> Woden/Odin

> Saturday - Saturn but also Norse god Seater. "Seater was honored

> representing a time when no one was a slave, a subordinate or a

superior.

> He also represented a time when age, wisdom, and maturity were

respected."

> http://www.earth-dancing.com/laugardagr.htm

>

> What's interesting, if we think about the names of the weekdays

with the

> planets and put them in Vimsottari dasa order starting with

Jupiter, we get:

> Jupiter - Thor

> Saturn - Seater

> Mercury - Woden/Odin

> (Ketu)

> Venus - Frigg/Frija

> the Sun

> the Moon (Luna)

> Mars - Tiw

> (Rahu)

>

> If you know a bit music theory, compare this with the basic seven

note major

> scale putting Jupiter as Do:

> Do - Jupiter - Thor

> Re - Saturn - Seater

> Mi - Mercury

> (semitone Ketu)

> Fa - Venus - Frigg/Frija

> Sol - the Sun ("solar")

> La - the Moon ("lunar")

> Ti - Mars - Tiw

> (semitone Rahu)

> Do - Jupiter again

>

> Note that Rahu and Ketu get exactly where the semitones (half-

steps) of the

> scale belong. It seems that there is a strange connection between

the

> weekdays, major scale in western music and Vimsottari dasa of

Indian

> astrology.

>

> Best, Sari

>