Weekdays [Remedial / Technical/vedic history, philo. too] 6/7

[Guest guest]

Dear Pt.Arjun,

well the surmise seems pretty good, pl quote the sanskrt sloka in transLiteation also will help that is English letters for sanskrot words. use CAPS for the matra or accent. SURE READERS CAN EJOOY THE BENFITS OF SHIVAPURANA BETTER.

i have also said that Nakshatra and thithis are our basis and not the British or Imperial leagacy of days, for all Dharmic activity we use them only. we need peioridic topics of tradition also here at least future generations can see it somehwere as last 304 generations are a confused lot not sure of tradition or or they modern either.

modern to the extent of makig money anyway not as were previous generations who made money just for their genuine needs no aggridisement.

 

panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004 > wrote: dear RR ji

even though i was told and believed that the week days were not used

in vedic era and only nakshatra and tidhi were used, suddenly lord

shiva whispered in my ear to find the answer in his shivapuran.

immediately my hands reached the shivapuran, vidveshwar samhita,

chapter 14 which give comprehensive narration of how days were given

by lord shiva, which i translate succinctly in english below:

the first day of the week was meant for lord shiva himself and the

ruler of this day is sun who gives health.

the second day of the week was meant for shakti and the ruler of

this day is moon who gives wealth.

the third day of the week was meant for kumaraswamy and the ruler of

this day is mars who cures diseases.

the fourth day of the week was meant for vishnu and the ruler of

this day is mercury who gives nutrition or development.

the fifth day of the week was meant for brahma and the ruler of this

day is jupiter who gives longevity of life.

the sixth day of the week was meant for indra and the ruler of this

day is venus who gives enjoyment or pleasures.

the seventh day of the week was meant for yama and the ruler of this

day is saturn who removes fear of death.

worshipping the particular gods on these particular days is

recommended for a person who wish to GET THE RESULTS GIVEN BY THOSE

RESPECTIVE LORDS OR PLANETS.

wish to share more in the next mails.

with best wishes

pandit arjun

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Dear Prafulla,

>

> [and Aavesh too if you are reading this (!) -- Aavesh has been the

> only other individual that brought in the same vibes as you do

into

> my insipid jyotish-journalistic experience, Prafulla. He has not

> spoken to me for a very long time!]

>

> I fully agree with you, Prafulla! Weekdays are a matter of

> convenience and not tradition necessarily :-(

>

> In a proper face to face setting a remedy would be prescribed

based

> on nakshatra and hora etc. I did that recently with yet again with

> very much expected results. But you know what, we jyotishis are to

> blame! We should stop lowering the bar and insist that nakshatra

and

> hora must always be taken into consideration. The weekday

> significance was started out by Krishnamurthi Paddhati followers

if I

> am not mistaken.

>

> My early successes did come from following parts of KP and so I

must

> not pooh pooh those too readily! But KP has also been posed to me

as

> the biggest 'challenge'! Rationally! Placidus for instance for

> starters! And house starting at a cusp, rather than the cusp

> (ascending degree being the house mid). When a table full of

goodies

> and tempting delicacies are available for sampling and picking --

the

> meal becomes that much easier!

>

> But is it nutritious on a daily basis or just another fast food?

>

> That is what JYOTISH (JYOTI-smorgasbord!) is all about for those

who

> are open and really hungry, but still discriminating about what

they

> consume!

>

> RR (TM=Trouble Maker)

>

>

>

> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ranjan ji

> >

> > Few years back, I had a lengthy discussion on remedial measures

> with a very good astrologer. According to him, remedies (like

> fasting, charities etc) got to be done on constellation day (and

in

> that planet's hora)..not on respective week day. I am expecting,

> exprienced members to share their views.

> >

> > regards / Prafulla Gang

> >

> > We all have our time machines. Some take us back, They're called

> memories. Some take us forward, they're called dreams.

> >

> >

> > >

> > > jyotish_vani@

> > > Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:42:54 -0000

> > >

> > > Re: Weekdays [Remedial / Technical/vedic history]

> > >

> > > Prafulla,

> > >

> > > Very good question, about weekdays and when did they start

coming

> > > into vogue.

> > >

> > > I am sure the scholars in ancient scriptures and karmakanda

etc

> would

> > > be able to shed light on this fundamental question. More

> > > significantly, if a similar historical note can be given by

those

> in

> > > the know of western history who knows the reasoning behind

> weekdays

> > > in their tradition. This would indeed be quite enlightening.

We

> often

> > > take these fundamental things as granted and never question

them.

> > >

> > > Like the order of rashi-rulership (this is the easiest and

known

> to

> > > almost everyone I am certain), the order of vimshottari dashas

and

> > > also by extension the order of nakshatras and much much more.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , Prafulla Gang

<jyotish@>

> > > wrote:

> > >>

> > >> Dear Neeraj ji

> > >>

> > >> Some of the remedies are sugested for particular days like

> > > saturday, tuesday etc. I am bit curious to know, if these week

> days

> > > existed prior to british rule in India. I am very keen to know

the

> > > days reference in any of the texts suggesting remedies.

> > >>

> > >> In my understanding, these remedies are always to be done on

the

> > > constellation day of the planet !!!!

> > >>

> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >>

> > >> We all have our time machines. Some take us back, They're

called

> > > memories. Some take us forward, they're called dreams.

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>>

> > >>> gupta_neeraj_2000@

> > >>> Tue, 4 Jul 2006 22:37:56 -0700 (PDT)

> > >>>

> > >>> Re: Remedies for Ashtama Sani

> > >>>

> > >>> ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

> > >>>

> > >>> Dear Paul,

> > >>>

> > >>> Following are the remedies of Ashtam Shani:

> > >>>

> > >>> 1. Recite Maha-Mritunjaya daily yourself. (Even if you

> > >>> recite one mala or less).

> > >>> 2. Read 3rd Anuvakyam of Rudram Chamakam daily 11

> > >>> times facing towards east.

> > >>> 3. Donate Black Til, Black Urad (pulse), Black Cloth,

> > >>> Mustard oil on Saturdays in morning or in evening.

> > >>> (not during afternoon)

> > >>> 4. Recite 2 lamps on saturday in mustard oil (one near

> > >>> peepal tree and the other one in front of Shani Dev).

> > >>> This should be done in temple and not at home.

> > >>> 5. Offer water to peepal tree on Saturdays.

> > >>>

> > >>> Results: When there is bad period (sadhesati, Ashtam

> > >>> Shani etc), it can be completely warded off, however,

> > >>> the evil effects or losses are lessened. For *example*

> > >>> (instead of job loss or no income, you might be

> > >>> working hard, putting in too much hours and getting

> > >>> less salary). So, it is better to have something ( a

> > >>> job with less money) instead of nothing. This was just

> > >>> an example, so if you are experiencing problems in

> > >>> some particular area of life, the problems will be

> > >>> lessened to a great extent.

> > >>>

> > >>> Regards,

> > >>>

> > >>> Neeraj

> > >>>

> > >>> --- Paul McDonald <paulmcd@> wrote:

> > >>>

> > >>>> I'm told I'm in Ashtama Sani until July 2007. (Born

> > >>>> Sept. 3, 1957;

> > >>>> 21:35; Louisville, Kentucky, USA - Long. 85

> > >>>> degrees,45'34"W Lat. 38

> > >>>> degrees, 15'15"N; Time Zone 6h W; Daylight Savings 1

> > >>>> hour). Recently

> > >>>> completed 16,000 repetitions of Sani Mantra with

> > >>>> goal of 25,000 by the

> > >>>> first week of August. What other remedies can

> > >>>> anyone recommend as well

> > >>>> as what to expect?

> > >>>>

> > >>>> Thank you.

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

around

> > >>>

> > >>

> >

>

 

 

Prashantkumar G B

-*- The services of this astrologer are free on group but

off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone.

Please fix times for this in advance -*-

09840051861

 

 

 

 

Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically different. Just radically better.

[Guest guest]

dear kumar ji

 

as requested by you, i have scanned the relevant pages of shivapuran

and posted in the files section under the filename weekdays.

 

in the first page, verse 12 starts with "AADI SRUSHTAU MAHADEVA

SARVAJNA KARUNAKARA: SARVA LOKOPAKARARTHA VAARATKALPITAVANPRABHU"

 

verse 20 further states "VAARESHAANKALPAVITYADAU JYOTISHCHAKRA

PRATISHTITHAAN" This verse means that by creation of these weekdays

(and attribution of planets), lord shiva has ratified (glorified!)

the jyotish shastra.

 

translation of original sanskrit verses to english is little

difficult for me and any typos of the verses may be overlooked even

while meanings are correct.

 

with best wishes

pandit arjun

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Dear Pt.Arjun,

> well the surmise seems pretty good, pl quote the sanskrt sloka

in transLiteation also will help that is English letters for

sanskrot words. use CAPS for the matra or accent. SURE READERS CAN

EJOOY THE BENFITS OF SHIVAPURANA BETTER.

>

> i have also said that Nakshatra and thithis are our basis and

not the British or Imperial leagacy of days, for all Dharmic

activity we use them only. we need peioridic topics of tradition

also here at least future generations can see it somehwere as last

304 generations are a confused lot not sure of tradition or or they

modern either.

> modern to the extent of makig money anyway not as were previous

generations who made money just for their genuine needs no

aggridisement.

>

>

>

>

>

>

> panditarjun2004 <panditarjun2004

wrote: dear RR ji

>

> even though i was told and believed that the week days were not

used

> in vedic era and only nakshatra and tidhi were used, suddenly

lord

> shiva whispered in my ear to find the answer in his shivapuran.

> immediately my hands reached the shivapuran, vidveshwar samhita,

> chapter 14 which give comprehensive narration of how days were

given

> by lord shiva, which i translate succinctly in english below:

>

> the first day of the week was meant for lord shiva himself and

the

> ruler of this day is sun who gives health.

>

> the second day of the week was meant for shakti and the ruler of

> this day is moon who gives wealth.

>

> the third day of the week was meant for kumaraswamy and the

ruler of

> this day is mars who cures diseases.

>

> the fourth day of the week was meant for vishnu and the ruler of

> this day is mercury who gives nutrition or development.

>

> the fifth day of the week was meant for brahma and the ruler of

this

> day is jupiter who gives longevity of life.

>

> the sixth day of the week was meant for indra and the ruler of

this

> day is venus who gives enjoyment or pleasures.

>

> the seventh day of the week was meant for yama and the ruler of

this

> day is saturn who removes fear of death.

>

> worshipping the particular gods on these particular days is

> recommended for a person who wish to GET THE RESULTS GIVEN BY

THOSE

> RESPECTIVE LORDS OR PLANETS.

>

> wish to share more in the next mails.

>

> with best wishes

> pandit arjun

>

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Prafulla,

> >

> > [and Aavesh too if you are reading this (!) -- Aavesh has been

the

> > only other individual that brought in the same vibes as you do

> into

> > my insipid jyotish-journalistic experience, Prafulla. He has

not

> > spoken to me for a very long time!]

> >

> > I fully agree with you, Prafulla! Weekdays are a matter of

> > convenience and not tradition necessarily :-(

> >

> > In a proper face to face setting a remedy would be prescribed

> based

> > on nakshatra and hora etc. I did that recently with yet again

with

> > very much expected results. But you know what, we jyotishis

are to

> > blame! We should stop lowering the bar and insist that

nakshatra

> and

> > hora must always be taken into consideration. The weekday

> > significance was started out by Krishnamurthi Paddhati

followers

> if I

> > am not mistaken.

> >

> > My early successes did come from following parts of KP and so

I

> must

> > not pooh pooh those too readily! But KP has also been posed to

me

> as

> > the biggest 'challenge'! Rationally! Placidus for instance for

> > starters! And house starting at a cusp, rather than the cusp

> > (ascending degree being the house mid). When a table full of

> goodies

> > and tempting delicacies are available for sampling and

picking --

> the

> > meal becomes that much easier!

> >

> > But is it nutritious on a daily basis or just another fast

food?

> >

> > That is what JYOTISH (JYOTI-smorgasbord!) is all about for

those

> who

> > are open and really hungry, but still discriminating about

what

> they

> > consume!

> >

> > RR (TM=Trouble Maker)

> >

> >

> >

> > , Prafulla Gang

<jyotish@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ranjan ji

> > >

> > > Few years back, I had a lengthy discussion on remedial

measures

> > with a very good astrologer. According to him, remedies (like

> > fasting, charities etc) got to be done on constellation day

(and

> in

> > that planet's hora)..not on respective week day. I am

expecting,

> > exprienced members to share their views.

> > >

> > > regards / Prafulla Gang

> > >

> > > We all have our time machines. Some take us back, They're

called

> > memories. Some take us forward, they're called dreams.

> > >

> > >

> > > >

> > > > jyotish_vani@

> > > > Wed, 05 Jul 2006 22:42:54 -0000

> > > >

> > > > Re: Weekdays [Remedial / Technical/vedic

history]

> > > >

> > > > Prafulla,

> > > >

> > > > Very good question, about weekdays and when did they start

> coming

> > > > into vogue.

> > > >

> > > > I am sure the scholars in ancient scriptures and

karmakanda

> etc

> > would

> > > > be able to shed light on this fundamental question. More

> > > > significantly, if a similar historical note can be given

by

> those

> > in

> > > > the know of western history who knows the reasoning behind

> > weekdays

> > > > in their tradition. This would indeed be quite

enlightening.

> We

> > often

> > > > take these fundamental things as granted and never

question

> them.

> > > >

> > > > Like the order of rashi-rulership (this is the easiest and

> known

> > to

> > > > almost everyone I am certain), the order of vimshottari

dashas

> and

> > > > also by extension the order of nakshatras and much much

more.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , Prafulla Gang

> <jyotish@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >>

> > > >> Dear Neeraj ji

> > > >>

> > > >> Some of the remedies are sugested for particular days like

> > > > saturday, tuesday etc. I am bit curious to know, if these

week

> > days

> > > > existed prior to british rule in India. I am very keen to

know

> the

> > > > days reference in any of the texts suggesting remedies.

> > > >>

> > > >> In my understanding, these remedies are always to be done

on

> the

> > > > constellation day of the planet !!!!

> > > >>

> > > >> regards / Prafulla Gang

> > > >>

> > > >> We all have our time machines. Some take us back, They're

> called

> > > > memories. Some take us forward, they're called dreams.

> > > >>

> > > >>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> gupta_neeraj_2000@

> > > >>> Tue, 4 Jul 2006 22:37:56 -0700 (PDT)

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Re: Remedies for Ashtama Sani

> > > >>>

> > > >>> ~ Om Namo Narayanaya ~

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Dear Paul,

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Following are the remedies of Ashtam Shani:

> > > >>>

> > > >>> 1. Recite Maha-Mritunjaya daily yourself. (Even if you

> > > >>> recite one mala or less).

> > > >>> 2. Read 3rd Anuvakyam of Rudram Chamakam daily 11

> > > >>> times facing towards east.

> > > >>> 3. Donate Black Til, Black Urad (pulse), Black Cloth,

> > > >>> Mustard oil on Saturdays in morning or in evening.

> > > >>> (not during afternoon)

> > > >>> 4. Recite 2 lamps on saturday in mustard oil (one near

> > > >>> peepal tree and the other one in front of Shani Dev).

> > > >>> This should be done in temple and not at home.

> > > >>> 5. Offer water to peepal tree on Saturdays.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Results: When there is bad period (sadhesati, Ashtam

> > > >>> Shani etc), it can be completely warded off, however,

> > > >>> the evil effects or losses are lessened. For *example*

> > > >>> (instead of job loss or no income, you might be

> > > >>> working hard, putting in too much hours and getting

> > > >>> less salary). So, it is better to have something ( a

> > > >>> job with less money) instead of nothing. This was just

> > > >>> an example, so if you are experiencing problems in

> > > >>> some particular area of life, the problems will be

> > > >>> lessened to a great extent.

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Regards,

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Neeraj

> > > >>>

> > > >>> --- Paul McDonald <paulmcd@> wrote:

> > > >>>

> > > >>>> I'm told I'm in Ashtama Sani until July 2007. (Born

> > > >>>> Sept. 3, 1957;

> > > >>>> 21:35; Louisville, Kentucky, USA - Long. 85

> > > >>>> degrees,45'34"W Lat. 38

> > > >>>> degrees, 15'15"N; Time Zone 6h W; Daylight Savings 1

> > > >>>> hour). Recently

> > > >>>> completed 16,000 repetitions of Sani Mantra with

> > > >>>> goal of 25,000 by the

> > > >>>> first week of August. What other remedies can

> > > >>>> anyone recommend as well

> > > >>>> as what to expect?

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>> Thank you.

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

> around

> > > >>>

> > > >>

> > >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Prashantkumar G B

>

> -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

group but

> off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone.

> Please fix times for this in advance -*-

> 09840051861

>

>

>

>

>

> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

different. Just radically better.

>

>