A quick Question on Software Usage for KP Method..Ayanamsha check

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Did you change the Ayanmsha to Krishnamurthy?

 

Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008 > wrote:

Om Krishna Guru

 

Namaste All,

 

Today I have started reading the first KP reader. Also attempted to

cast the Birtch Chart per Page No : 62 with the following Birth

Details using JHora software.

 

The Birth Details given in the KP Reader I at Page No : 62 is:

Date of Birth : Mar 8th 1938

Time of Birth : 19:40 Hrs ( 7:40 PM )

Co-Ordinates : 11 N 39 , 78 E 12.

 

When I casted the chart using the above birth data in JHora software

using the KP Ayanamsa, I have found few discrepancies between the

longitudes mentioned in the book vs calculated by JHora. At the same

time, some of the Calculation are matching with the Book.

 

The descrepency I found , for example:-

 

1) As per Book : Lagna is 13 Deg 27, but per JHora I am getting 13

Deg 25.32 Min.

2) As per Book : Rahu is 07 Deg 47, This is matching with JHora

Calculation.

 

Also as per the Book Page 63, the period running at that time of the

marriage ( Nov 19th 1961 for this native) was :: Rahu-Budha-Guru-Rahu

 

But When I see this using the 360.25 days year definition, I am

getting

:: Rahu-Budha-Guru-Kuja

 

But when I changed the year definition to 360 Savana Years, then I am

getting the same as the Book, meaning Rahu-Budha-Guru-Rahu. So is

this definition is correct for me to continue using JHora Software?

 

Can some one, who is using Jhora for the KP purpose may please help

me to define the setting in JHora, so that the calculation and dasa

bhukti will match with the KP books, so that I can go forward in my

studies without any doubt in mind, whether I am making any mistakes.

 

I have already got the Raichur Ji's DOS based Software, but I do not

know how to use this software to find the Shookshma dasa for the

above given marriage date yet.

 

I am also in the process of purchasing the KPAstro Ver 2.5 from

India, but I may get that in few weeks as it has to be shipped to me

to USA from India.

 

So meanwhile, if some one can help me to get started with Jhora

setting changes in order to get correct KP charts and calculation,

that would be a great help.

 

Alternatively, please suggest a winsdows based software which

calculates as per the KP prescribed calculation and have the

capability to change the calculations on the fly like JHora.

I am willing to pay for this KP software too. Please suggest.

 

If I am asking a very basic and stupid question, which may be not

useful for the rest of the members, so may I request you to write to

me privatly with your reply, so that we do not bother other members

with this basic questions and also not to waste their time too.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Regards

Raghunatha Rao

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Tatvam Asi Ji

 

Still you don't get the exact sub lords and dasa correctly which is required

as the KP system.So you need to use it using KP software only,i even tried

with many software but all of them giving me different sub lords which is very important concept in prediction using the KP system.Above right sub lord can only be given by KP Padhadathi can be give only by KP software.

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote: Did you change the Ayanmsha to Krishnamurthy?

 

Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008 > wrote:

Om Krishna Guru

 

Namaste All,

 

Today I have started reading the first KP reader. Also attempted to

cast the Birtch Chart per Page No : 62 with the following Birth

Details using JHora software.

 

The Birth Details given in the KP Reader I at Page No : 62 is:

Date of Birth : Mar 8th 1938

Time of Birth : 19:40 Hrs ( 7:40 PM )

Co-Ordinates : 11 N 39 , 78 E 12.

 

When I casted the chart using the above birth data in JHora software

using the KP Ayanamsa, I have found few discrepancies between the

longitudes mentioned in the book vs calculated by JHora. At the same

time, some of the Calculation are matching with the Book.

 

The descrepency I found , for example:-

 

1) As per Book : Lagna is 13 Deg 27, but per JHora I am getting 13

Deg 25.32 Min.

2) As per Book : Rahu is 07 Deg 47, This is matching with JHora

Calculation.

 

Also as per the Book Page 63, the period running at that time of the

marriage ( Nov 19th 1961 for this native) was :: Rahu-Budha-Guru-Rahu

 

But When I see this using the 360.25 days year definition, I am

getting

:: Rahu-Budha-Guru-Kuja

 

But when I changed the year definition to 360 Savana Years, then I am

getting the same as the Book, meaning Rahu-Budha-Guru-Rahu. So is

this definition is correct for me to continue using JHora Software?

 

Can some one, who is using Jhora for the KP purpose may please help

me to define the setting in JHora, so that the calculation and dasa

bhukti will match with the KP books, so that I can go forward in my

studies without any doubt in mind, whether I am making any mistakes.

 

I have already got the Raichur Ji's DOS based Software, but I do not

know how to use this software to find the Shookshma dasa for the

above given marriage date yet.

 

I am also in the process of purchasing the KPAstro Ver 2.5 from

India, but I may get that in few weeks as it has to be shipped to me

to USA from India.

 

So meanwhile, if some one can help me to get started with Jhora

setting changes in order to get correct KP charts and calculation,

that would be a great help.

 

Alternatively, please suggest a winsdows based software which

calculates as per the KP prescribed calculation and have the

capability to change the calculations on the fly like JHora.

I am willing to pay for this KP software too. Please suggest.

 

If I am asking a very basic and stupid question, which may be not

useful for the rest of the members, so may I request you to write to

me privatly with your reply, so that we do not bother other members

with this basic questions and also not to waste their time too.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Regards

Raghunatha Rao

 

 

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Dear Santhosh,

Then why is J HORA still giving KP as option?

It can well be dispensed with.

Tatvam-Asi

santhosh A <santhosh_room_41 > wrote:

Dear Tatvam Asi Ji

 

Still you don't get the exact sub lords and dasa correctly which is required

as the KP system.So you need to use it using KP software only,i even tried

with many software but all of them giving me different sub lords which is very important concept in prediction using the KP system.Above right sub lord can only be given by KP Padhadathi can be give only by KP software.

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote: Did you change the Ayanmsha to Krishnamurthy?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008 > wrote:

Om Krishna Guru

 

Namaste All,

 

Today I have started reading the first KP reader. Also attempted to

cast the Birtch Chart per Page No : 62 with the following Birth

Details using JHora software.

 

The Birth Details given in the KP Reader I at Page No : 62 is:

Date of Birth : Mar 8th 1938

Time of Birth : 19:40 Hrs ( 7:40 PM )

Co-Ordinates : 11 N 39 , 78 E 12.

 

When I casted the chart using the above birth data in JHora software

using the KP Ayanamsa, I have found few discrepancies between the

longitudes mentioned in the book vs calculated by JHora. At the same

time, some of the Calculation are matching with the Book.

 

The descrepency I found , for example:-

 

1) As per Book : Lagna is 13 Deg 27, but per JHora I am getting 13

Deg 25.32 Min.

2) As per Book : Rahu is 07 Deg 47, This is matching with JHora

Calculation.

 

Also as per the Book Page 63, the period running at that time of the

marriage ( Nov 19th 1961 for this native) was :: Rahu-Budha-Guru-Rahu

 

But When I see this using the 360.25 days year definition, I am

getting

:: Rahu-Budha-Guru-Kuja

 

But when I changed the year definition to 360 Savana Years, then I am

getting the same as the Book, meaning Rahu-Budha-Guru-Rahu. So is

this definition is correct for me to continue using JHora Software?

 

Can some one, who is using Jhora for the KP purpose may please help

me to define the setting in JHora, so that the calculation and dasa

bhukti will match with the KP books, so that I can go forward in my

studies without any doubt in mind, whether I am making any mistakes.

 

I have already got the Raichur Ji's DOS based Software, but I do not

know how to use this software to find the Shookshma dasa for the

above given marriage date yet.

 

I am also in the process of purchasing the KPAstro Ver 2.5 from

India, but I may get that in few weeks as it has to be shipped to me

to USA from India.

 

So meanwhile, if some one can help me to get started with Jhora

setting changes in order to get correct KP charts and calculation,

that would be a great help.

 

Alternatively, please suggest a winsdows based software which

calculates as per the KP prescribed calculation and have the

capability to change the calculations on the fly like JHora.

I am willing to pay for this KP software too. Please suggest.

 

If I am asking a very basic and stupid question, which may be not

useful for the rest of the members, so may I request you to write to

me privatly with your reply, so that we do not bother other members

with this basic questions and also not to waste their time too.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Regards

Raghunatha Rao

 

 

 

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Dear Tatavam Asi Ji

 

A very good question but i don't know ,but i tried to compare the results of the Exclusive KP software with JHora ,as i am also very very confortable with JHORA

which give me a very very acurate vedic calculations which no other software give till date.I even tried to use intially JHORA for KP ,but latter i found the sub lord in JHORA and dasa's are different from KP software..I had wrote about this to PVR also.

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote: Dear Santhosh,

Then why is J HORA still giving KP as option?

It can well be dispensed with.

Tatvam-Asi

santhosh A <santhosh_room_41 > wrote:

Dear Tatvam Asi Ji

 

Still you don't get the exact sub lords and dasa correctly which is required

as the KP system.So you need to use it using KP software only,i even tried

with many software but all of them giving me different sub lords which is very important concept in prediction using the KP system.Above right sub lord can only be given by KP Padhadathi can be give only by KP software.

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

Tatvam-Asi <nameisego > wrote: Did you change the Ayanmsha to Krishnamurthy?

 

Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008 > wrote:

Om Krishna Guru

 

Namaste All,

 

Today I have started reading the first KP reader. Also attempted to

cast the Birtch Chart per Page No : 62 with the following Birth

Details using JHora software.

 

The Birth Details given in the KP Reader I at Page No : 62 is:

Date of Birth : Mar 8th 1938

Time of Birth : 19:40 Hrs ( 7:40 PM )

Co-Ordinates : 11 N 39 , 78 E 12.

 

When I casted the chart using the above birth data in JHora software

using the KP Ayanamsa, I have found few discrepancies between the

longitudes mentioned in the book vs calculated by JHora. At the same

time, some of the Calculation are matching with the Book.

 

The descrepency I found , for example:-

 

1) As per Book : Lagna is 13 Deg 27, but per JHora I am getting 13

Deg 25.32 Min.

2) As per Book : Rahu is 07 Deg 47, This is matching with JHora

Calculation.

 

Also as per the Book Page 63, the period running at that time of the

marriage ( Nov 19th 1961 for this native) was :: Rahu-Budha-Guru-Rahu

 

But When I see this using the 360.25 days year definition, I am

getting

:: Rahu-Budha-Guru-Kuja

 

But when I changed the year definition to 360 Savana Years, then I am

getting the same as the Book, meaning Rahu-Budha-Guru-Rahu. So is

this definition is correct for me to continue using JHora Software?

 

Can some one, who is using Jhora for the KP purpose may please help

me to define the setting in JHora, so that the calculation and dasa

bhukti will match with the KP books, so that I can go forward in my

studies without any doubt in mind, whether I am making any mistakes.

 

I have already got the Raichur Ji's DOS based Software, but I do not

know how to use this software to find the Shookshma dasa for the

above given marriage date yet.

 

I am also in the process of purchasing the KPAstro Ver 2.5 from

India, but I may get that in few weeks as it has to be shipped to me

to USA from India.

 

So meanwhile, if some one can help me to get started with Jhora

setting changes in order to get correct KP charts and calculation,

that would be a great help.

 

Alternatively, please suggest a winsdows based software which

calculates as per the KP prescribed calculation and have the

capability to change the calculations on the fly like JHora.

I am willing to pay for this KP software too. Please suggest.

 

If I am asking a very basic and stupid question, which may be not

useful for the rest of the members, so may I request you to write to

me privatly with your reply, so that we do not bother other members

with this basic questions and also not to waste their time too.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Regards

Raghunatha Rao

 

 

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Namaste friends,

 

Planetary longitudes calculated by softwares depend on the planetary

motion algorithm used. While JHora and most commercial general

purpose Jyotish softwares of today use ephemeris based on NASA's

latest models, it is likely that the KP softwares you refer to use

approximate analytical models.

 

Thus, some minor deviation in planetary longitudes and resulting

mismatches in subs etc is entirely possible.

 

If the other KP software also uses the latest models, the longitudes

should match and subs should match.

 

If you believe that the calculations used by Krishnamoorthy, as

given in his books, were "perfect" despite not using the latest NASA

models and if you simply want those calculations to be replicated

exactly, you will have to use a software that somebody wrote for

that specific purpose. However, the thing to ponder is: Is that

really the right thing to do?

 

Also, I believe Krishnamoorthy progressed ayanamsa at a linear rate.

While we don't know the exact value of ayanamsa, modern science does

have an accurate model of the nonlinear manner in which ayanamsa

changes. JHora has only the non-linear ayanamsas. Though Lahiri and

Krishnamoorthy may have used linear ayanamsas that were progressed

at a constant rate every year, it is not logical to follow them

blindly, knowing that that is inaccurate based on current scientific

knowledge.

 

Again, if you simply want to replicate Krishnamoorthy's calculations

not worrying about the scientific inaccuracies in those, you may use

a software that specifically attempts that.

 

If you want to use KP methods with a nonlinear adoptation of

Krishnamoorthy's ayanamsa and with the latest planetary longitude

calculation algorithms, then only use the KP tab of JHora.

 

Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,

Narasimha

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Free Jyotish software (Windows): <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>

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-------------------------------

 

vedic astrology, santhosh A

<santhosh_room_41 wrote:

>

> Dear Tatavam Asi Ji

>

> A very good question but i don't know ,but i tried to compare

the results of the Exclusive KP software with JHora ,as i am also

very very confortable with JHORA

> which give me a very very acurate vedic calculations which no

other software give till date.I even tried to use intially JHORA for

KP ,but latter i found the sub lord in JHORA and dasa's are

different from KP software..I had wrote about this to PVR also.

>

> Regards

> Santhosh

>

> Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote:

Dear Santhosh,

>

> Then why is J HORA still giving KP as option?

> It can well be dispensed with.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> santhosh A <santhosh_room_41 wrote:

> Dear Tatvam Asi Ji

>

> Still you don't get the exact sub lords and dasa correctly which

is required

> as the KP system.So you need to use it using KP software only,i

even tried

> with many software but all of them giving me different sub lords

which is very important concept in prediction using the KP

system.Above right sub lord can only be given by KP Padhadathi can

be give only by KP software.

>

> Regards

> Santhosh

>

> Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: Did you change the Ayanmsha to

Krishnamurthy?

>

> Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008 wrote:

> Om Krishna Guru

>

> Namaste All,

>

> Today I have started reading the first KP reader. Also attempted

to

> cast the Birtch Chart per Page No : 62 with the following Birth

> Details using JHora software.

>

> The Birth Details given in the KP Reader I at Page No : 62 is:

> Date of Birth : Mar 8th 1938

> Time of Birth : 19:40 Hrs ( 7:40 PM )

> Co-Ordinates : 11 N 39 , 78 E 12.

>

> When I casted the chart using the above birth data in JHora

software

> using the KP Ayanamsa, I have found few discrepancies between the

> longitudes mentioned in the book vs calculated by JHora. At the

same

> time, some of the Calculation are matching with the Book.

>

> The descrepency I found , for example:-

>

> 1) As per Book : Lagna is 13 Deg 27, but per JHora I am getting

13

> Deg 25.32 Min.

> 2) As per Book : Rahu is 07 Deg 47, This is matching with JHora

> Calculation.

>

> Also as per the Book Page 63, the period running at that time of

the

> marriage ( Nov 19th 1961 for this native) was :: Rahu-Budha-Guru-

Rahu

>

> But When I see this using the 360.25 days year definition, I am

> getting

> :: Rahu-Budha-Guru-Kuja

>

> But when I changed the year definition to 360 Savana Years, then

I am

> getting the same as the Book, meaning Rahu-Budha-Guru-Rahu. So is

> this definition is correct for me to continue using JHora

Software?

>

> Can some one, who is using Jhora for the KP purpose may please

help

> me to define the setting in JHora, so that the calculation and

dasa

> bhukti will match with the KP books, so that I can go forward in

my

> studies without any doubt in mind, whether I am making any

mistakes.

>

> I have already got the Raichur Ji's DOS based Software, but I do

not

> know how to use this software to find the Shookshma dasa for the

> above given marriage date yet.

>

> I am also in the process of purchasing the KPAstro Ver 2.5 from

> India, but I may get that in few weeks as it has to be shipped to

me

> to USA from India.

>

> So meanwhile, if some one can help me to get started with Jhora

> setting changes in order to get correct KP charts and

calculation,

> that would be a great help.

>

> Alternatively, please suggest a winsdows based software which

> calculates as per the KP prescribed calculation and have the

> capability to change the calculations on the fly like JHora.

> I am willing to pay for this KP software too. Please suggest.

>

> If I am asking a very basic and stupid question, which may be not

> useful for the rest of the members, so may I request you to write

to

> me privatly with your reply, so that we do not bother other

members

> with this basic questions and also not to waste their time too.

>

> Thanks for your help in advance.

>

> Regards

> Raghunatha Rao

>

>

> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

different. Just radically better.

>

>

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Dear All

 

I fully agree with to exlusively KP software for doing KP system and JHORA

for vedic system ,not to mix both of these.Even in KP they use ruling planets extensively ,they take agents for rahu and ketu,House sub and start lords as per Placidius,planet links,cuspal links and some KP practioners use western aspects like conjunction,oppositions instead of vedic etc .So unless you have exact calculations for each system as they follow it is very difficult to do a research.

 

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

pvr108 <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Namaste friends,

Planetary longitudes calculated by softwares depend on the planetary

motion algorithm used. While JHora and most commercial general

purpose Jyotish softwares of today use ephemeris based on NASA's

latest models, it is likely that the KP softwares you refer to use

approximate analytical models.

Thus, some minor deviation in planetary longitudes and resulting

mismatches in subs etc is entirely possible.

If the other KP software also uses the latest models, the longitudes

should match and subs should match.

If you believe that the calculations used by Krishnamoorthy, as

given in his books, were "perfect" despite not using the latest NASA

models and if you simply want those calculations to be replicated

exactly, you will have to use a software that somebody wrote for

that specific purpose. However, the thing to ponder is: Is that

really the right thing to do?

Also, I believe Krishnamoorthy progressed ayanamsa at a linear rate.

While we don't know the exact value of ayanamsa, modern science does

have an accurate model of the nonlinear manner in which ayanamsa

changes. JHora has only the non-linear ayanamsas. Though Lahiri and

Krishnamoorthy may have used linear ayanamsas that were progressed

at a constant rate every year, it is not logical to follow them

blindly, knowing that that is inaccurate based on current scientific

knowledge.

Again, if you simply want to replicate Krishnamoorthy's calculations

not worrying about the scientific inaccuracies in those, you may use

a software that specifically attempts that.

If you want to use KP methods with a nonlinear adoptation of

Krishnamoorthy's ayanamsa and with the latest planetary longitude

calculation algorithms, then only use the KP tab of JHora.

Sarvam SreeKrishnaarpanamastu,

Narasimha

-------------------------

Free Jyotish lessons (MP3): <http://vedicastro.home.comcast.net>

Free Jyotish software (Windows): <http://www.VedicAstrologer.org>

Sri Jagannath Centre (SJC) website: <http://www.SriJagannath.org>

-------------------------

vedic astrology, santhosh A

<santhosh_room_41 wrote:

>

> Dear Tatavam Asi Ji

>

> A very good question but i don't know ,but i tried to compare

the results of the Exclusive KP software with JHora ,as i am also

very very confortable with JHORA

> which give me a very very acurate vedic calculations which no

other software give till date.I even tried to use intially JHORA for

KP ,but latter i found the sub lord in JHORA and dasa's are

different from KP software..I had wrote about this to PVR also.

>

> Regards

> Santhosh

>

> Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote:

Dear Santhosh,

>

> Then why is J HORA still giving KP as option?

> It can well be dispensed with.

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

>

>

> santhosh A <santhosh_room_41 wrote:

> Dear Tatvam Asi Ji

>

> Still you don't get the exact sub lords and dasa correctly which

is required

> as the KP system.So you need to use it using KP software only,i

even tried

> with many software but all of them giving me different sub lords

which is very important concept in prediction using the KP

system.Above right sub lord can only be given by KP Padhadathi can

be give only by KP software.

>

> Regards

> Santhosh

>

> Tatvam-Asi <nameisego wrote: Did you change the Ayanmsha to

Krishnamurthy?

>

> Raghunatha RaoNemani <raon1008 wrote:

> Om Krishna Guru

>

> Namaste All,

>

> Today I have started reading the first KP reader. Also attempted

to

> cast the Birtch Chart per Page No : 62 with the following Birth

> Details using JHora software.

>

> The Birth Details given in the KP Reader I at Page No : 62 is:

> Date of Birth : Mar 8th 1938

> Time of Birth : 19:40 Hrs ( 7:40 PM )

> Co-Ordinates : 11 N 39 , 78 E 12.

>

> When I casted the chart using the above birth data in JHora

software

> using the KP Ayanamsa, I have found few discrepancies between the

> longitudes mentioned in the book vs calculated by JHora. At the

same

> time, some of the Calculation are matching with the Book.

>

> The descrepency I found , for example:-

>

> 1) As per Book : Lagna is 13 Deg 27, but per JHora I am getting

13

> Deg 25.32 Min.

> 2) As per Book : Rahu is 07 Deg 47, This is matching with JHora

> Calculation.

>

> Also as per the Book Page 63, the period running at that time of

the

> marriage ( Nov 19th 1961 for this native) was :: Rahu-Budha-Guru-

Rahu

>

> But When I see this using the 360.25 days year definition, I am

> getting

> :: Rahu-Budha-Guru-Kuja

>

> But when I changed the year definition to 360 Savana Years, then

I am

> getting the same as the Book, meaning Rahu-Budha-Guru-Rahu. So is

> this definition is correct for me to continue using JHora

Software?

>

> Can some one, who is using Jhora for the KP purpose may please

help

> me to define the setting in JHora, so that the calculation and

dasa

> bhukti will match with the KP books, so that I can go forward in

my

> studies without any doubt in mind, whether I am making any

mistakes.

>

> I have already got the Raichur Ji's DOS based Software, but I do

not

> know how to use this software to find the Shookshma dasa for the

> above given marriage date yet.

>

> I am also in the process of purchasing the KPAstro Ver 2.5 from

> India, but I may get that in few weeks as it has to be shipped to

me

> to USA from India.

>

> So meanwhile, if some one can help me to get started with Jhora

> setting changes in order to get correct KP charts and

calculation,

> that would be a great help.

>

> Alternatively, please suggest a winsdows based software which

> calculates as per the KP prescribed calculation and have the

> capability to change the calculations on the fly like JHora.

> I am willing to pay for this KP software too. Please suggest.

>

> If I am asking a very basic and stupid question, which may be not

> useful for the rest of the members, so may I request you to write

to

> me privatly with your reply, so that we do not bother other

members

> with this basic questions and also not to waste their time too.

>

> Thanks for your help in advance.

>

> Regards

> Raghunatha Rao

>

>

> Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

different. Just radically better.

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>