Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Hi Suresh, I cast your chart and dasa per TA based on the birthdata provided by you and I am listing vimsottari dasa covering dates of various events you mention. I am failing to understand when you say every event is tallying. One thing I am sure of is that I know how to cast a horoscope using TA. Actually I would like to believe that TA works better but I am trying to find definitive proofs. Your Marriage: May 6, 1991 Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) Ket AD: 1990-11-22 (7:25:14) - 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) Rah PD: 1991-04-28 (0:14:53) - 1991-06-26 (0:09:20) Your First child: June 14, 1992 Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) Sun PD: 1992-06-08 (7:09:19) - 1992-08-03 (20:53:43) Your Second child: Sept 8, 1993 Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) Jup PD: 1993-06-17 (23:27:19) - 1993-11-13 (3:34:44) Your Trip to US : June 6, 1998 Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): Jup MD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2014-05-21 (4:09:54) Jup AD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2000-07-09 (18:51:13) Jup PD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 1998-09-04 (23:34:27) Would please explain why you say events are happening when dasa changes ? Are you looking at some dasa other than vimsottari ? With Regards, Pratap sureshbalaraman <sureshbalaraman > wrote: With Taruns ayanamsha,every event that has happened is tallying for me.My marriage May 6,1991.My first born,daughter June 14,1992.My second born ,son,spet 8,1993.My coming to usa June 6,1998.My wife starting a home based biz,gosh,i only wish he predicts my future,events too.Though i thank,Tarun from the bottom of my heart.Now my Nakshatara is Uttaraphalguni,my dasa is Ju/Ve.Hip Hip Hooray. SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Dear Pratap, Thanks for analysing my horoscope.I failed to mention on August 10,1990(12 PM IST),my father acheived Moksha,and recently my mother joined my father on May 7,2006(3PM IST).Even this i corrabarated with Taruns Ayanamsha,and of the opinion the,Vimshottari Dasha Systems, Maha Dasa,Antar Dasha,Pratyantar Dasha,Sookshma Antar Dasha,Prana Antar Dasha,Deha Antar Dasha,gives me the underlying planetary influence for a particular event.I like the argument as Tarun has put forth,wherein he does NOT ask anyone to shelve Lahiri etc but try to use his researched Ayanamsa,which is sceintifically,astronomically accurate. If,you have anyway of informing me,with present Maha Dasa ie Guru Mhadasa,Ketu Antar Dasa,Mercury Pratyantar Dasa....etc as Taruns ayanamsha,is wrong,Please explain to me.I am convinced,please tell me why you are not convinced,if you wish.But your feedback is appreciated,for i am excited about Taruns findings,which in my opinion is right way. Suresh , Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria wrote: > > Hi Suresh, > > I cast your chart and dasa per TA based on the birthdata provided by you and I am listing vimsottari dasa covering dates of various events you mention. I am failing to understand when you say every event is tallying. One thing I am sure of is that I know how to cast a horoscope using TA. Actually I would like to believe that TA works better but I am trying to find definitive proofs. > > Your Marriage: May 6, 1991 > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > Ket AD: 1990-11-22 (7:25:14) - 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) > Rah PD: 1991-04-28 (0:14:53) - 1991-06-26 (0:09:20) > > Your First child: June 14, 1992 > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > Sun PD: 1992-06-08 (7:09:19) - 1992-08-03 (20:53:43) > > Your Second child: Sept 8, 1993 > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > Jup PD: 1993-06-17 (23:27:19) - 1993-11-13 (3:34:44) > > Your Trip to US : June 6, 1998 > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > Jup MD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2014-05-21 (4:09:54) > Jup AD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2000-07-09 (18:51:13) > Jup PD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 1998-09-04 (23:34:27) > > Would please explain why you say events are happening when dasa changes ? Are you looking at some dasa other than vimsottari ? > > With Regards, > > Pratap > > > > > sureshbalaraman <sureshbalaraman wrote: > With Taruns ayanamsha,every event that has happened is tallying for > me.My marriage May 6,1991.My first born,daughter June 14,1992.My > second born ,son,spet 8,1993.My coming to usa June 6,1998.My wife > starting a home based biz,gosh,i only wish he predicts my > future,events too.Though i thank,Tarun from the bottom of my heart.Now > my Nakshatara is Uttaraphalguni,my dasa is Ju/Ve.Hip Hip Hooray. > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2006 Report Share Posted July 10, 2006 Suresh ji, No need to feel that everyone is after the ayanamsha that you follow. On the other hand people are spending time to look at the data you gave and understand it. Instead of getting sucked into the emotional upheaval that is going on right now here, I would request you to focus on just explaining serious questions, one at a time. For starters let us start with your first date, the date of arrival in US. I have posted something along those lines as has Pratap and we do not understand why jupiter and not rahu is better explaining that event, by far the most significant one in your life from the way you describe the happenings. Please do not harbour any fear about people trying to necessarily pull you down or your ayanamsha. I say this because you are the first person who has sincerely reported the birthdata and events that made you change your mind and use this ayanamsha. Now all we want is some more details -- the reasons I gave in the other post posted just minutes ago. I hope you will not pull back having done the right thing which many had been asking other researchers. Thanks RR , "sureshbalaraman" <sureshbalaraman wrote: > > Dear Pratap, > > Thanks for analysing my horoscope.I failed to mention on August > 10,1990(12 PM IST),my father acheived Moksha,and recently my mother > joined my father on May 7,2006(3PM IST).Even this i corrabarated with > Taruns Ayanamsha,and of the opinion the,Vimshottari Dasha Systems, > Maha Dasa,Antar Dasha,Pratyantar Dasha,Sookshma Antar Dasha,Prana > Antar Dasha,Deha Antar Dasha,gives me the underlying planetary > influence for a particular event.I like the argument as Tarun has put > forth,wherein he does NOT ask anyone to shelve Lahiri etc but try to > use his researched Ayanamsa,which is sceintifically,astronomically > accurate. > > If,you have anyway of informing me,with present Maha Dasa ie Guru > Mhadasa,Ketu Antar Dasa,Mercury Pratyantar Dasa....etc as Taruns > ayanamsha,is wrong,Please explain to me.I am convinced,please tell me > why you are not convinced,if you wish.But your feedback is > appreciated,for i am excited about Taruns findings,which in my opinion > is right way. > > Suresh > > , Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria@> > wrote: > > > > Hi Suresh, > > > > I cast your chart and dasa per TA based on the birthdata provided > by you and I am listing vimsottari dasa covering dates of various > events you mention. I am failing to understand when you say every > event is tallying. One thing I am sure of is that I know how to cast a > horoscope using TA. Actually I would like to believe that TA works > better but I am trying to find definitive proofs. > > > > Your Marriage: May 6, 1991 > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > Ket AD: 1990-11-22 (7:25:14) - 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) > > Rah PD: 1991-04-28 (0:14:53) - 1991-06-26 (0:09:20) > > > > Your First child: June 14, 1992 > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > > Sun PD: 1992-06-08 (7:09:19) - 1992-08-03 (20:53:43) > > > > Your Second child: Sept 8, 1993 > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > > Jup PD: 1993-06-17 (23:27:19) - 1993-11-13 (3:34:44) > > > > Your Trip to US : June 6, 1998 > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > Jup MD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2014-05-21 (4:09:54) > > Jup AD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2000-07-09 (18:51:13) > > Jup PD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 1998-09-04 (23:34:27) > > > > Would please explain why you say events are happening when dasa > changes ? Are you looking at some dasa other than vimsottari ? > > > > With Regards, > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > sureshbalaraman <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > With Taruns ayanamsha,every event that has happened is tallying for > > me.My marriage May 6,1991.My first born,daughter June 14,1992.My > > second born ,son,spet 8,1993.My coming to usa June 6,1998.My wife > > starting a home based biz,gosh,i only wish he predicts my > > future,events too.Though i thank,Tarun from the bottom of my heart.Now > > my Nakshatara is Uttaraphalguni,my dasa is Ju/Ve.Hip Hip Hooray. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Dear RR, I am happy that experienced astrology buffs are taken the magnifying glass to test the situation.Important consideration for me with Tarun,is,he is able to convince me that Western Astrology Sun position and Indian Astrology Sun position is the same,which is how it ought to be.When we have one zodiac,how can Sun Signs be different??was my long query over the years.With this,Taruns,brilliant research,in my opinion,he has bridged the impossible. As far as your reasoning;,untill 48 hrs i was thinking Rahu bhagwan has destryed me temperorarily.I was just waiting patiently until guru bhagwan takes over on oct 2007,when things should change for me. But now,it appears to me,Rahu bhagwan while leaving me took me to the heights of my desire,(1998)ie live in usa.which he gave it to me. Though at the corner of my mind,i ask myself how ridiculous i am,that i changed my mind so fast.Somehow,i am having that gut feeling as people say about Tarun.I really want people to scrutinise,analyse threadbare,have postive fulfilling and enriching knowledge here. Thanks Suresh , "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Suresh ji, > > No need to feel that everyone is after the ayanamsha that you follow. > On the other hand people are spending time to look at the data you > gave and understand it. Instead of getting sucked into the emotional > upheaval that is going on right now here, I would request you to > focus on just explaining serious questions, one at a time. For > starters let us start with your first date, the date of arrival in > US. I have posted something along those lines as has Pratap and we do > not understand why jupiter and not rahu is better explaining that > event, by far the most significant one in your life from the way you > describe the happenings. > > Please do not harbour any fear about people trying to necessarily > pull you down or your ayanamsha. I say this because you are the first > person who has sincerely reported the birthdata and events that made > you change your mind and use this ayanamsha. Now all we want is some > more details -- the reasons I gave in the other post posted just > minutes ago. I hope you will not pull back having done the right > thing which many had been asking other researchers. > > Thanks > > RR > > > , "sureshbalaraman" > <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > Thanks for analysing my horoscope.I failed to mention on August > > 10,1990(12 PM IST),my father acheived Moksha,and recently my mother > > joined my father on May 7,2006(3PM IST).Even this i corrabarated > with > > Taruns Ayanamsha,and of the opinion the,Vimshottari Dasha Systems, > > Maha Dasa,Antar Dasha,Pratyantar Dasha,Sookshma Antar Dasha,Prana > > Antar Dasha,Deha Antar Dasha,gives me the underlying planetary > > influence for a particular event.I like the argument as Tarun has > put > > forth,wherein he does NOT ask anyone to shelve Lahiri etc but try to > > use his researched Ayanamsa,which is sceintifically,astronomically > > accurate. > > > > If,you have anyway of informing me,with present Maha Dasa ie Guru > > Mhadasa,Ketu Antar Dasa,Mercury Pratyantar Dasa....etc as Taruns > > ayanamsha,is wrong,Please explain to me.I am convinced,please tell > me > > why you are not convinced,if you wish.But your feedback is > > appreciated,for i am excited about Taruns findings,which in my > opinion > > is right way. > > > > Suresh > > > > , Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Suresh, > > > > > > I cast your chart and dasa per TA based on the birthdata > provided > > by you and I am listing vimsottari dasa covering dates of various > > events you mention. I am failing to understand when you say every > > event is tallying. One thing I am sure of is that I know how to > cast a > > horoscope using TA. Actually I would like to believe that TA works > > better but I am trying to find definitive proofs. > > > > > > Your Marriage: May 6, 1991 > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > Ket AD: 1990-11-22 (7:25:14) - 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) > > > Rah PD: 1991-04-28 (0:14:53) - 1991-06-26 (0:09:20) > > > > > > Your First child: June 14, 1992 > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > > > Sun PD: 1992-06-08 (7:09:19) - 1992-08-03 (20:53:43) > > > > > > Your Second child: Sept 8, 1993 > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > > > Jup PD: 1993-06-17 (23:27:19) - 1993-11-13 (3:34:44) > > > > > > Your Trip to US : June 6, 1998 > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > Jup MD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2014-05-21 (4:09:54) > > > Jup AD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2000-07-09 (18:51:13) > > > Jup PD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 1998-09-04 (23:34:27) > > > > > > Would please explain why you say events are happening when dasa > > changes ? Are you looking at some dasa other than vimsottari ? > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sureshbalaraman <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > With Taruns ayanamsha,every event that has happened is tallying > for > > > me.My marriage May 6,1991.My first born,daughter June 14,1992.My > > > second born ,son,spet 8,1993.My coming to usa June 6,1998.My wife > > > starting a home based biz,gosh,i only wish he predicts my > > > future,events too.Though i thank,Tarun from the bottom of my > heart.Now > > > my Nakshatara is Uttaraphalguni,my dasa is Ju/Ve.Hip Hip Hooray. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Dear members, I would like to comment on the arrival to USA event of suresh ji as how it happened in Jupiter Dasha, you all know that Jupiter is lord of fourth house and seventh house, now you can see that Jupiter is placed in fifth house, with Saturn which is lord of fifth and sixth house. the year was 37 if you total 3+7 is one the number of sun, sun is lord of 12th house. sun is placed in sixth house which aspect to 12 house its own house, you all know that seventh house rules, foreign places, journey, journey within a journey (referred by light on life page number 139) Jupiter aspect to ninth house. as soon the Dasha started it lead him to go to foreign land. Jupiter is aspected by the lord of third house eight house., transit at the time of event Jupiter was placed in seventh house. ketu which gives the change in life was placed in sixth house where natal sun is placed. so you can see as soon the Dasha of Jupiter started the person arrived to foreign land. i am sure that these events can be explained by some how with other ayanamsha but you can see the dates are important as i have said that when ever a Dasha changes on the same date a person experience a event like in this case. Tarun Chopra www.occultwizard.com On 7/11/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote: > > Suresh ji, > > No need to feel that everyone is after the ayanamsha that you follow. > On the other hand people are spending time to look at the data you > gave and understand it. Instead of getting sucked into the emotional > upheaval that is going on right now here, I would request you to > focus on just explaining serious questions, one at a time. For > starters let us start with your first date, the date of arrival in > US. I have posted something along those lines as has Pratap and we do > not understand why jupiter and not rahu is better explaining that > event, by far the most significant one in your life from the way you > describe the happenings. > > Please do not harbour any fear about people trying to necessarily > pull you down or your ayanamsha. I say this because you are the first > person who has sincerely reported the birthdata and events that made > you change your mind and use this ayanamsha. Now all we want is some > more details -- the reasons I gave in the other post posted just > minutes ago. I hope you will not pull back having done the right > thing which many had been asking other researchers. > > Thanks > > RR > > <%40>, > "sureshbalaraman" > <sureshbalaraman wrote: > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > Thanks for analysing my horoscope.I failed to mention on August > > 10,1990(12 PM IST),my father acheived Moksha,and recently my mother > > joined my father on May 7,2006(3PM IST).Even this i corrabarated > with > > Taruns Ayanamsha,and of the opinion the,Vimshottari Dasha Systems, > > Maha Dasa,Antar Dasha,Pratyantar Dasha,Sookshma Antar Dasha,Prana > > Antar Dasha,Deha Antar Dasha,gives me the underlying planetary > > influence for a particular event.I like the argument as Tarun has > put > > forth,wherein he does NOT ask anyone to shelve Lahiri etc but try to > > use his researched Ayanamsa,which is sceintifically,astronomically > > accurate. > > > > If,you have anyway of informing me,with present Maha Dasa ie Guru > > Mhadasa,Ketu Antar Dasa,Mercury Pratyantar Dasa....etc as Taruns > > ayanamsha,is wrong,Please explain to me.I am convinced,please tell > me > > why you are not convinced,if you wish.But your feedback is > > appreciated,for i am excited about Taruns findings,which in my > opinion > > is right way. > > > > Suresh > > > > <%40>, > Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Suresh, > > > > > > I cast your chart and dasa per TA based on the birthdata > provided > > by you and I am listing vimsottari dasa covering dates of various > > events you mention. I am failing to understand when you say every > > event is tallying. One thing I am sure of is that I know how to > cast a > > horoscope using TA. Actually I would like to believe that TA works > > better but I am trying to find definitive proofs. > > > > > > Your Marriage: May 6, 1991 > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > Ket AD: 1990-11-22 (7:25:14) - 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) > > > Rah PD: 1991-04-28 (0:14:53) - 1991-06-26 (0:09:20) > > > > > > Your First child: June 14, 1992 > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > > > Sun PD: 1992-06-08 (7:09:19) - 1992-08-03 (20:53:43) > > > > > > Your Second child: Sept 8, 1993 > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > > > Jup PD: 1993-06-17 (23:27:19) - 1993-11-13 (3:34:44) > > > > > > Your Trip to US : June 6, 1998 > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > Jup MD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2014-05-21 (4:09:54) > > > Jup AD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2000-07-09 (18:51:13) > > > Jup PD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 1998-09-04 (23:34:27) > > > > > > Would please explain why you say events are happening when dasa > > changes ? Are you looking at some dasa other than vimsottari ? > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sureshbalaraman <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > With Taruns ayanamsha,every event that has happened is tallying > for > > > me.My marriage May 6,1991.My first born,daughter June 14,1992.My > > > second born ,son,spet 8,1993.My coming to usa June 6,1998.My wife > > > starting a home based biz,gosh,i only wish he predicts my > > > future,events too.Though i thank,Tarun from the bottom of my > heart.Now > > > my Nakshatara is Uttaraphalguni,my dasa is Ju/Ve.Hip Hip Hooray. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2006 Report Share Posted July 11, 2006 Dear Suresh, Even with TC ayanamsha, you would be quite a few degrees away from tropical value, so your statement that the tropical sun and sidereal sun will be the same, is incorrect. Even if you mean by same sun as sun in same rashi, such would be the case about 2/3rd times. It is a simple math that even a math-challenged individual like me can figure out. It should be a non-sequiter for other more erudite members many of whom are engineers, accountants, and otherwise very intelligent! Rahu does represent foreign lands and cultures while Guru does not! Again, caveat must be sounded that not everyone goes to a foreign country when rahu dasha or bhukti is operating and certainly not ONLY when a dasha or sub period is changing! Some planets give effects early, others in middle and others at the end of a period. Even this rule fails in some cases but far less number of times than the rule (if there is one!) that says that all major events happen/occur only when a dasha or other period changes! Belief, bhakti, epiphany are all great experiences and I do not want to hurt your feelings or support structure but it would be dishonest of me to not point out or to stop asking questions about this. RR RR , "sureshbalaraman" <sureshbalaraman wrote: > > Dear RR, > > I am happy that experienced astrology buffs are taken the magnifying > glass to test the situation.Important consideration for me with > Tarun,is,he is able to convince me that Western Astrology Sun > position and Indian Astrology Sun position is the same,which is how > it ought to be.When we have one zodiac,how can Sun Signs be > different??was my long query over the years.With > this,Taruns,brilliant research,in my opinion,he has bridged the > impossible. > > As far as your reasoning;,untill 48 hrs i was thinking Rahu bhagwan > has destryed me temperorarily.I was just waiting patiently until > guru bhagwan takes over on oct 2007,when things should change for me. > > But now,it appears to me,Rahu bhagwan while leaving me took me to > the heights of my desire,(1998)ie live in usa.which he gave it to me. > > Though at the corner of my mind,i ask myself how ridiculous i > am,that i changed my mind so fast.Somehow,i am having that gut > feeling as people say about Tarun.I really want people to > scrutinise,analyse threadbare,have postive fulfilling and enriching > knowledge here. > > Thanks > > Suresh > , "crystal pages" > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Suresh ji, > > > > No need to feel that everyone is after the ayanamsha that you > follow. > > On the other hand people are spending time to look at the data you > > gave and understand it. Instead of getting sucked into the > emotional > > upheaval that is going on right now here, I would request you to > > focus on just explaining serious questions, one at a time. For > > starters let us start with your first date, the date of arrival in > > US. I have posted something along those lines as has Pratap and we > do > > not understand why jupiter and not rahu is better explaining that > > event, by far the most significant one in your life from the way > you > > describe the happenings. > > > > Please do not harbour any fear about people trying to necessarily > > pull you down or your ayanamsha. I say this because you are the > first > > person who has sincerely reported the birthdata and events that > made > > you change your mind and use this ayanamsha. Now all we want is > some > > more details -- the reasons I gave in the other post posted just > > minutes ago. I hope you will not pull back having done the right > > thing which many had been asking other researchers. > > > > Thanks > > > > RR > > > > > > , "sureshbalaraman" > > <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > Thanks for analysing my horoscope.I failed to mention on August > > > 10,1990(12 PM IST),my father acheived Moksha,and recently my > mother > > > joined my father on May 7,2006(3PM IST).Even this i corrabarated > > with > > > Taruns Ayanamsha,and of the opinion the,Vimshottari Dasha > Systems, > > > Maha Dasa,Antar Dasha,Pratyantar Dasha,Sookshma Antar Dasha,Prana > > > Antar Dasha,Deha Antar Dasha,gives me the underlying planetary > > > influence for a particular event.I like the argument as Tarun > has > > put > > > forth,wherein he does NOT ask anyone to shelve Lahiri etc but > try to > > > use his researched Ayanamsa,which is > sceintifically,astronomically > > > accurate. > > > > > > If,you have anyway of informing me,with present Maha Dasa ie Guru > > > Mhadasa,Ketu Antar Dasa,Mercury Pratyantar Dasa....etc as Taruns > > > ayanamsha,is wrong,Please explain to me.I am convinced,please > tell > > me > > > why you are not convinced,if you wish.But your feedback is > > > appreciated,for i am excited about Taruns findings,which in my > > opinion > > > is right way. > > > > > > Suresh > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > <pkaneria@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Suresh, > > > > > > > > I cast your chart and dasa per TA based on the birthdata > > provided > > > by you and I am listing vimsottari dasa covering dates of various > > > events you mention. I am failing to understand when you say every > > > event is tallying. One thing I am sure of is that I know how to > > cast a > > > horoscope using TA. Actually I would like to believe that TA > works > > > better but I am trying to find definitive proofs. > > > > > > > > Your Marriage: May 6, 1991 > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > > Ket AD: 1990-11-22 (7:25:14) - 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) > > > > Rah PD: 1991-04-28 (0:14:53) - 1991-06-26 (0:09:20) > > > > > > > > Your First child: June 14, 1992 > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > > > > Sun PD: 1992-06-08 (7:09:19) - 1992-08-03 (20:53:43) > > > > > > > > Your Second child: Sept 8, 1993 > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > > > > Jup PD: 1993-06-17 (23:27:19) - 1993-11-13 (3:34:44) > > > > > > > > Your Trip to US : June 6, 1998 > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > Jup MD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2014-05-21 (4:09:54) > > > > Jup AD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2000-07-09 (18:51:13) > > > > Jup PD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 1998-09-04 (23:34:27) > > > > > > > > Would please explain why you say events are happening when > dasa > > > changes ? Are you looking at some dasa other than vimsottari ? > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sureshbalaraman <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > With Taruns ayanamsha,every event that has happened is > tallying > > for > > > > me.My marriage May 6,1991.My first born,daughter June > 14,1992.My > > > > second born ,son,spet 8,1993.My coming to usa June 6,1998.My > wife > > > > starting a home based biz,gosh,i only wish he predicts my > > > > future,events too.Though i thank,Tarun from the bottom of my > > heart.Now > > > > my Nakshatara is Uttaraphalguni,my dasa is Ju/Ve.Hip Hip > Hooray. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > RELISH > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Dear RR, I understand your interpretation of Rahus influence.But i will also give you why Guru has brought me here,sometime later. I am happy to be an Aquarian Sun Sign.Because practically i have lived all my life like an aquarian.Always surprising people with my outlandish thoughts.More later. Suresh. , "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Dear Suresh, > > Even with TC ayanamsha, you would be quite a few degrees away from > tropical value, so your statement that the tropical sun and sidereal > sun will be the same, is incorrect. Even if you mean by same sun as > sun in same rashi, such would be the case about 2/3rd times. It is a > simple math that even a math-challenged individual like me can figure > out. It should be a non-sequiter for other more erudite members many > of whom are engineers, accountants, and otherwise very intelligent! > > Rahu does represent foreign lands and cultures while Guru does not! > Again, caveat must be sounded that not everyone goes to a foreign > country when rahu dasha or bhukti is operating and certainly not ONLY > when a dasha or sub period is changing! Some planets give effects > early, others in middle and others at the end of a period. Even this > rule fails in some cases but far less number of times than the rule > (if there is one!) that says that all major events happen/occur only > when a dasha or other period changes! > > Belief, bhakti, epiphany are all great experiences and I do not want > to hurt your feelings or support structure but it would be dishonest > of me to not point out or to stop asking questions about this. > > RR > > RR > > > > , "sureshbalaraman" > <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > Dear RR, > > > > I am happy that experienced astrology buffs are taken the > magnifying > > glass to test the situation.Important consideration for me with > > Tarun,is,he is able to convince me that Western Astrology Sun > > position and Indian Astrology Sun position is the same,which is how > > it ought to be.When we have one zodiac,how can Sun Signs be > > different??was my long query over the years.With > > this,Taruns,brilliant research,in my opinion,he has bridged the > > impossible. > > > > As far as your reasoning;,untill 48 hrs i was thinking Rahu bhagwan > > has destryed me temperorarily.I was just waiting patiently until > > guru bhagwan takes over on oct 2007,when things should change for > me. > > > > But now,it appears to me,Rahu bhagwan while leaving me took me to > > the heights of my desire,(1998)ie live in usa.which he gave it to > me. > > > > Though at the corner of my mind,i ask myself how ridiculous i > > am,that i changed my mind so fast.Somehow,i am having that gut > > feeling as people say about Tarun.I really want people to > > scrutinise,analyse threadbare,have postive fulfilling and enriching > > knowledge here. > > > > Thanks > > > > Suresh > > , "crystal pages" > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Suresh ji, > > > > > > No need to feel that everyone is after the ayanamsha that you > > follow. > > > On the other hand people are spending time to look at the data > you > > > gave and understand it. Instead of getting sucked into the > > emotional > > > upheaval that is going on right now here, I would request you to > > > focus on just explaining serious questions, one at a time. For > > > starters let us start with your first date, the date of arrival > in > > > US. I have posted something along those lines as has Pratap and > we > > do > > > not understand why jupiter and not rahu is better explaining that > > > event, by far the most significant one in your life from the way > > you > > > describe the happenings. > > > > > > Please do not harbour any fear about people trying to necessarily > > > pull you down or your ayanamsha. I say this because you are the > > first > > > person who has sincerely reported the birthdata and events that > > made > > > you change your mind and use this ayanamsha. Now all we want is > > some > > > more details -- the reasons I gave in the other post posted just > > > minutes ago. I hope you will not pull back having done the right > > > thing which many had been asking other researchers. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > , "sureshbalaraman" > > > <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > Thanks for analysing my horoscope.I failed to mention on August > > > > 10,1990(12 PM IST),my father acheived Moksha,and recently my > > mother > > > > joined my father on May 7,2006(3PM IST).Even this i > corrabarated > > > with > > > > Taruns Ayanamsha,and of the opinion the,Vimshottari Dasha > > Systems, > > > > Maha Dasa,Antar Dasha,Pratyantar Dasha,Sookshma Antar > Dasha,Prana > > > > Antar Dasha,Deha Antar Dasha,gives me the underlying planetary > > > > influence for a particular event.I like the argument as Tarun > > has > > > put > > > > forth,wherein he does NOT ask anyone to shelve Lahiri etc but > > try to > > > > use his researched Ayanamsa,which is > > sceintifically,astronomically > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > If,you have anyway of informing me,with present Maha Dasa ie > Guru > > > > Mhadasa,Ketu Antar Dasa,Mercury Pratyantar Dasa....etc as Taruns > > > > ayanamsha,is wrong,Please explain to me.I am convinced,please > > tell > > > me > > > > why you are not convinced,if you wish.But your feedback is > > > > appreciated,for i am excited about Taruns findings,which in my > > > opinion > > > > is right way. > > > > > > > > Suresh > > > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > <pkaneria@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi Suresh, > > > > > > > > > > I cast your chart and dasa per TA based on the birthdata > > > provided > > > > by you and I am listing vimsottari dasa covering dates of > various > > > > events you mention. I am failing to understand when you say > every > > > > event is tallying. One thing I am sure of is that I know how to > > > cast a > > > > horoscope using TA. Actually I would like to believe that TA > > works > > > > better but I am trying to find definitive proofs. > > > > > > > > > > Your Marriage: May 6, 1991 > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > > > Ket AD: 1990-11-22 (7:25:14) - 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) > > > > > Rah PD: 1991-04-28 (0:14:53) - 1991-06-26 (0:09:20) > > > > > > > > > > Your First child: June 14, 1992 > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > > > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > > > > > Sun PD: 1992-06-08 (7:09:19) - 1992-08-03 (20:53:43) > > > > > > > > > > Your Second child: Sept 8, 1993 > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > > > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > > > > > Jup PD: 1993-06-17 (23:27:19) - 1993-11-13 (3:34:44) > > > > > > > > > > Your Trip to US : June 6, 1998 > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > > Jup MD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2014-05-21 (4:09:54) > > > > > Jup AD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2000-07-09 (18:51:13) > > > > > Jup PD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 1998-09-04 (23:34:27) > > > > > > > > > > Would please explain why you say events are happening when > > dasa > > > > changes ? Are you looking at some dasa other than vimsottari ? > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sureshbalaraman <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > > With Taruns ayanamsha,every event that has happened is > > tallying > > > for > > > > > me.My marriage May 6,1991.My first born,daughter June > > 14,1992.My > > > > > second born ,son,spet 8,1993.My coming to usa June 6,1998.My > > wife > > > > > starting a home based biz,gosh,i only wish he predicts my > > > > > future,events too.Though i thank,Tarun from the bottom of my > > > heart.Now > > > > > my Nakshatara is Uttaraphalguni,my dasa is Ju/Ve.Hip Hip > > Hooray. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > RELISH > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 Dear Suresh, You do not have to change ayanamsha or zodiac to identify with the Kumbha! Just look at your chart (sidereal, of course!) , "sureshbalaraman" <sureshbalaraman wrote: > > Dear RR, > > I understand your interpretation of Rahus influence.But i will also > give you why Guru has brought me here,sometime later. > > I am happy to be an Aquarian Sun Sign.Because practically i have > lived all my life like an aquarian.Always surprising people with my > outlandish thoughts.More later. > > Suresh. > > , "crystal pages" > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > Dear Suresh, > > > > Even with TC ayanamsha, you would be quite a few degrees away from > > tropical value, so your statement that the tropical sun and > sidereal > > sun will be the same, is incorrect. Even if you mean by same sun > as > > sun in same rashi, such would be the case about 2/3rd times. It is > a > > simple math that even a math-challenged individual like me can > figure > > out. It should be a non-sequiter for other more erudite members > many > > of whom are engineers, accountants, and otherwise very intelligent! > > > > Rahu does represent foreign lands and cultures while Guru does > not! > > Again, caveat must be sounded that not everyone goes to a foreign > > country when rahu dasha or bhukti is operating and certainly not > ONLY > > when a dasha or sub period is changing! Some planets give effects > > early, others in middle and others at the end of a period. Even > this > > rule fails in some cases but far less number of times than the > rule > > (if there is one!) that says that all major events happen/occur > only > > when a dasha or other period changes! > > > > Belief, bhakti, epiphany are all great experiences and I do not > want > > to hurt your feelings or support structure but it would be > dishonest > > of me to not point out or to stop asking questions about this. > > > > RR > > > > RR > > > > > > > > , "sureshbalaraman" > > <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear RR, > > > > > > I am happy that experienced astrology buffs are taken the > > magnifying > > > glass to test the situation.Important consideration for me with > > > Tarun,is,he is able to convince me that Western Astrology Sun > > > position and Indian Astrology Sun position is the same,which is > how > > > it ought to be.When we have one zodiac,how can Sun Signs be > > > different??was my long query over the years.With > > > this,Taruns,brilliant research,in my opinion,he has bridged the > > > impossible. > > > > > > As far as your reasoning;,untill 48 hrs i was thinking Rahu > bhagwan > > > has destryed me temperorarily.I was just waiting patiently until > > > guru bhagwan takes over on oct 2007,when things should change > for > > me. > > > > > > But now,it appears to me,Rahu bhagwan while leaving me took me > to > > > the heights of my desire,(1998)ie live in usa.which he gave it > to > > me. > > > > > > Though at the corner of my mind,i ask myself how ridiculous i > > > am,that i changed my mind so fast.Somehow,i am having that gut > > > feeling as people say about Tarun.I really want people to > > > scrutinise,analyse threadbare,have postive fulfilling and > enriching > > > knowledge here. > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Suresh > > > , "crystal pages" > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Suresh ji, > > > > > > > > No need to feel that everyone is after the ayanamsha that you > > > follow. > > > > On the other hand people are spending time to look at the data > > you > > > > gave and understand it. Instead of getting sucked into the > > > emotional > > > > upheaval that is going on right now here, I would request you > to > > > > focus on just explaining serious questions, one at a time. For > > > > starters let us start with your first date, the date of > arrival > > in > > > > US. I have posted something along those lines as has Pratap > and > > we > > > do > > > > not understand why jupiter and not rahu is better explaining > that > > > > event, by far the most significant one in your life from the > way > > > you > > > > describe the happenings. > > > > > > > > Please do not harbour any fear about people trying to > necessarily > > > > pull you down or your ayanamsha. I say this because you are > the > > > first > > > > person who has sincerely reported the birthdata and events > that > > > made > > > > you change your mind and use this ayanamsha. Now all we want > is > > > some > > > > more details -- the reasons I gave in the other post posted > just > > > > minutes ago. I hope you will not pull back having done the > right > > > > thing which many had been asking other researchers. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sureshbalaraman" > > > > <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for analysing my horoscope.I failed to mention on > August > > > > > 10,1990(12 PM IST),my father acheived Moksha,and recently my > > > mother > > > > > joined my father on May 7,2006(3PM IST).Even this i > > corrabarated > > > > with > > > > > Taruns Ayanamsha,and of the opinion the,Vimshottari Dasha > > > Systems, > > > > > Maha Dasa,Antar Dasha,Pratyantar Dasha,Sookshma Antar > > Dasha,Prana > > > > > Antar Dasha,Deha Antar Dasha,gives me the underlying > planetary > > > > > influence for a particular event.I like the argument as > Tarun > > > has > > > > put > > > > > forth,wherein he does NOT ask anyone to shelve Lahiri etc > but > > > try to > > > > > use his researched Ayanamsa,which is > > > sceintifically,astronomically > > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > If,you have anyway of informing me,with present Maha Dasa ie > > Guru > > > > > Mhadasa,Ketu Antar Dasa,Mercury Pratyantar Dasa....etc as > Taruns > > > > > ayanamsha,is wrong,Please explain to me.I am > convinced,please > > > tell > > > > me > > > > > why you are not convinced,if you wish.But your feedback is > > > > > appreciated,for i am excited about Taruns findings,which in > my > > > > opinion > > > > > is right way. > > > > > > > > > > Suresh > > > > > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > <pkaneria@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Suresh, > > > > > > > > > > > > I cast your chart and dasa per TA based on the birthdata > > > > provided > > > > > by you and I am listing vimsottari dasa covering dates of > > various > > > > > events you mention. I am failing to understand when you say > > every > > > > > event is tallying. One thing I am sure of is that I know how > to > > > > cast a > > > > > horoscope using TA. Actually I would like to believe that TA > > > works > > > > > better but I am trying to find definitive proofs. > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Marriage: May 6, 1991 > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > > > > Ket AD: 1990-11-22 (7:25:14) - 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) > > > > > > Rah PD: 1991-04-28 (0:14:53) - 1991-06-26 (0:09:20) > > > > > > > > > > > > Your First child: June 14, 1992 > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > > > > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > > > > > > Sun PD: 1992-06-08 (7:09:19) - 1992-08-03 (20:53:43) > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Second child: Sept 8, 1993 > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > > > > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > > > > > > Jup PD: 1993-06-17 (23:27:19) - 1993-11-13 (3:34:44) > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Trip to US : June 6, 1998 > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > > > Jup MD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2014-05-21 (4:09:54) > > > > > > Jup AD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2000-07-09 (18:51:13) > > > > > > Jup PD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 1998-09-04 (23:34:27) > > > > > > > > > > > > Would please explain why you say events are happening > when > > > dasa > > > > > changes ? Are you looking at some dasa other than > vimsottari ? > > > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sureshbalaraman <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > > > With Taruns ayanamsha,every event that has happened is > > > tallying > > > > for > > > > > > me.My marriage May 6,1991.My first born,daughter June > > > 14,1992.My > > > > > > second born ,son,spet 8,1993.My coming to usa June > 6,1998.My > > > wife > > > > > > starting a home based biz,gosh,i only wish he predicts my > > > > > > future,events too.Though i thank,Tarun from the bottom of > my > > > > heart.Now > > > > > > my Nakshatara is Uttaraphalguni,my dasa is Ju/Ve.Hip Hip > > > Hooray. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY > AND > > > RELISH > > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2006 Report Share Posted July 12, 2006 OK , "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani wrote: > > Dear Suresh, > > You do not have to change ayanamsha or zodiac to identify with the > Kumbha! > > Just look at your chart (sidereal, of course!) > > > , "sureshbalaraman" > <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > Dear RR, > > > > I understand your interpretation of Rahus influence.But i will also > > give you why Guru has brought me here,sometime later. > > > > I am happy to be an Aquarian Sun Sign.Because practically i have > > lived all my life like an aquarian.Always surprising people with my > > outlandish thoughts.More later. > > > > Suresh. > > > > , "crystal pages" > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Suresh, > > > > > > Even with TC ayanamsha, you would be quite a few degrees away > from > > > tropical value, so your statement that the tropical sun and > > sidereal > > > sun will be the same, is incorrect. Even if you mean by same sun > > as > > > sun in same rashi, such would be the case about 2/3rd times. It > is > > a > > > simple math that even a math-challenged individual like me can > > figure > > > out. It should be a non-sequiter for other more erudite members > > many > > > of whom are engineers, accountants, and otherwise very > intelligent! > > > > > > Rahu does represent foreign lands and cultures while Guru does > > not! > > > Again, caveat must be sounded that not everyone goes to a foreign > > > country when rahu dasha or bhukti is operating and certainly not > > ONLY > > > when a dasha or sub period is changing! Some planets give effects > > > early, others in middle and others at the end of a period. Even > > this > > > rule fails in some cases but far less number of times than the > > rule > > > (if there is one!) that says that all major events happen/occur > > only > > > when a dasha or other period changes! > > > > > > Belief, bhakti, epiphany are all great experiences and I do not > > want > > > to hurt your feelings or support structure but it would be > > dishonest > > > of me to not point out or to stop asking questions about this. > > > > > > RR > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sureshbalaraman" > > > <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear RR, > > > > > > > > I am happy that experienced astrology buffs are taken the > > > magnifying > > > > glass to test the situation.Important consideration for me with > > > > Tarun,is,he is able to convince me that Western Astrology Sun > > > > position and Indian Astrology Sun position is the same,which is > > how > > > > it ought to be.When we have one zodiac,how can Sun Signs be > > > > different??was my long query over the years.With > > > > this,Taruns,brilliant research,in my opinion,he has bridged the > > > > impossible. > > > > > > > > As far as your reasoning;,untill 48 hrs i was thinking Rahu > > bhagwan > > > > has destryed me temperorarily.I was just waiting patiently > until > > > > guru bhagwan takes over on oct 2007,when things should change > > for > > > me. > > > > > > > > But now,it appears to me,Rahu bhagwan while leaving me took me > > to > > > > the heights of my desire,(1998)ie live in usa.which he gave it > > to > > > me. > > > > > > > > Though at the corner of my mind,i ask myself how ridiculous i > > > > am,that i changed my mind so fast.Somehow,i am having that gut > > > > feeling as people say about Tarun.I really want people to > > > > scrutinise,analyse threadbare,have postive fulfilling and > > enriching > > > > knowledge here. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > Suresh > > > > , "crystal pages" > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Suresh ji, > > > > > > > > > > No need to feel that everyone is after the ayanamsha that you > > > > follow. > > > > > On the other hand people are spending time to look at the > data > > > you > > > > > gave and understand it. Instead of getting sucked into the > > > > emotional > > > > > upheaval that is going on right now here, I would request you > > to > > > > > focus on just explaining serious questions, one at a time. > For > > > > > starters let us start with your first date, the date of > > arrival > > > in > > > > > US. I have posted something along those lines as has Pratap > > and > > > we > > > > do > > > > > not understand why jupiter and not rahu is better explaining > > that > > > > > event, by far the most significant one in your life from the > > way > > > > you > > > > > describe the happenings. > > > > > > > > > > Please do not harbour any fear about people trying to > > necessarily > > > > > pull you down or your ayanamsha. I say this because you are > > the > > > > first > > > > > person who has sincerely reported the birthdata and events > > that > > > > made > > > > > you change your mind and use this ayanamsha. Now all we want > > is > > > > some > > > > > more details -- the reasons I gave in the other post posted > > just > > > > > minutes ago. I hope you will not pull back having done the > > right > > > > > thing which many had been asking other researchers. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "sureshbalaraman" > > > > > <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for analysing my horoscope.I failed to mention on > > August > > > > > > 10,1990(12 PM IST),my father acheived Moksha,and recently > my > > > > mother > > > > > > joined my father on May 7,2006(3PM IST).Even this i > > > corrabarated > > > > > with > > > > > > Taruns Ayanamsha,and of the opinion the,Vimshottari Dasha > > > > Systems, > > > > > > Maha Dasa,Antar Dasha,Pratyantar Dasha,Sookshma Antar > > > Dasha,Prana > > > > > > Antar Dasha,Deha Antar Dasha,gives me the underlying > > planetary > > > > > > influence for a particular event.I like the argument as > > Tarun > > > > has > > > > > put > > > > > > forth,wherein he does NOT ask anyone to shelve Lahiri etc > > but > > > > try to > > > > > > use his researched Ayanamsa,which is > > > > sceintifically,astronomically > > > > > > accurate. > > > > > > > > > > > > If,you have anyway of informing me,with present Maha Dasa > ie > > > Guru > > > > > > Mhadasa,Ketu Antar Dasa,Mercury Pratyantar Dasa....etc as > > Taruns > > > > > > ayanamsha,is wrong,Please explain to me.I am > > convinced,please > > > > tell > > > > > me > > > > > > why you are not convinced,if you wish.But your feedback is > > > > > > appreciated,for i am excited about Taruns findings,which in > > my > > > > > opinion > > > > > > is right way. > > > > > > > > > > > > Suresh > > > > > > > > > > > > , Pratap Kaneria > > > > <pkaneria@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Suresh, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I cast your chart and dasa per TA based on the > birthdata > > > > > provided > > > > > > by you and I am listing vimsottari dasa covering dates of > > > various > > > > > > events you mention. I am failing to understand when you say > > > every > > > > > > event is tallying. One thing I am sure of is that I know > how > > to > > > > > cast a > > > > > > horoscope using TA. Actually I would like to believe that > TA > > > > works > > > > > > better but I am trying to find definitive proofs. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Marriage: May 6, 1991 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > > > > > Ket AD: 1990-11-22 (7:25:14) - 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) > > > > > > > Rah PD: 1991-04-28 (0:14:53) - 1991-06-26 (0:09:20) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your First child: June 14, 1992 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > > > > > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > > > > > > > Sun PD: 1992-06-08 (7:09:19) - 1992-08-03 (20:53:43) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Second child: Sept 8, 1993 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > > > > > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > > > > > > > Jup PD: 1993-06-17 (23:27:19) - 1993-11-13 (3:34:44) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Trip to US : June 6, 1998 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > > > > Jup MD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2014-05-21 (4:09:54) > > > > > > > Jup AD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2000-07-09 (18:51:13) > > > > > > > Jup PD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 1998-09-04 (23:34:27) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would please explain why you say events are happening > > when > > > > dasa > > > > > > changes ? Are you looking at some dasa other than > > vimsottari ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sureshbalaraman <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > > > > With Taruns ayanamsha,every event that has happened is > > > > tallying > > > > > for > > > > > > > me.My marriage May 6,1991.My first born,daughter June > > > > 14,1992.My > > > > > > > second born ,son,spet 8,1993.My coming to usa June > > 6,1998.My > > > > wife > > > > > > > starting a home based biz,gosh,i only wish he predicts my > > > > > > > future,events too.Though i thank,Tarun from the bottom of > > my > > > > > heart.Now > > > > > > > my Nakshatara is Uttaraphalguni,my dasa is Ju/Ve.Hip Hip > > > > Hooray. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY > > AND > > > > RELISH > > > > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 Dear Mr. Chopra, Specifically addressing your premise/theory that significant changes would take place only when a period or subperiod changes, i.e., at the very early phase of the period -- When classics indicate that some factors give the result in the early part, others in the mid and still others in the last part of a dasha - - is that wrong advice given by classics? What else is wrongly stated in the classics? Particularly where fundamental principles are involved, like the above?? Where do parallax correction and solar vs savanamana years figure in your calculations (repeat questions that have remained unanswered). Thanks in advance for your response and tolerating my persistence ;-) RR , "Tarun Chopra" <occultwizard.tarun wrote: > > Dear members, > I would like to comment on the arrival to USA event of suresh ji as how it > happened in Jupiter Dasha, you all know that Jupiter is lord of fourth house > and seventh house, now you can see that Jupiter is placed in fifth house, > with Saturn which is lord of fifth and sixth house. the year was 37 if you > total 3+7 is one the number of sun, sun is lord of 12th house. sun is placed > in sixth house which aspect to 12 house its own house, > > you all know that seventh house rules, foreign places, journey, journey > within a journey (referred by light on life page number 139) Jupiter aspect > to ninth house. as soon the Dasha started it lead him to go to foreign land. > > > Jupiter is aspected by the lord of third house eight house., > > transit at the time of event Jupiter was placed in seventh house. ketu which > gives the change in life was placed in sixth house where natal sun is > placed. > > so you can see as soon the Dasha of Jupiter started the person arrived to > foreign land. i am sure that these events can be explained by some how with > other ayanamsha but you can see the dates are important as i have said that > when ever a Dasha changes on the same date a person experience a event like > in this case. > > Tarun Chopra > www.occultwizard.com > > > > On 7/11/06, crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote: > > > > Suresh ji, > > > > No need to feel that everyone is after the ayanamsha that you follow. > > On the other hand people are spending time to look at the data you > > gave and understand it. Instead of getting sucked into the emotional > > upheaval that is going on right now here, I would request you to > > focus on just explaining serious questions, one at a time. For > > starters let us start with your first date, the date of arrival in > > US. I have posted something along those lines as has Pratap and we do > > not understand why jupiter and not rahu is better explaining that > > event, by far the most significant one in your life from the way you > > describe the happenings. > > > > Please do not harbour any fear about people trying to necessarily > > pull you down or your ayanamsha. I say this because you are the first > > person who has sincerely reported the birthdata and events that made > > you change your mind and use this ayanamsha. Now all we want is some > > more details -- the reasons I gave in the other post posted just > > minutes ago. I hope you will not pull back having done the right > > thing which many had been asking other researchers. > > > > Thanks > > > > RR > > > > <% 40>, > > "sureshbalaraman" > > <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Pratap, > > > > > > Thanks for analysing my horoscope.I failed to mention on August > > > 10,1990(12 PM IST),my father acheived Moksha,and recently my mother > > > joined my father on May 7,2006(3PM IST).Even this i corrabarated > > with > > > Taruns Ayanamsha,and of the opinion the,Vimshottari Dasha Systems, > > > Maha Dasa,Antar Dasha,Pratyantar Dasha,Sookshma Antar Dasha,Prana > > > Antar Dasha,Deha Antar Dasha,gives me the underlying planetary > > > influence for a particular event.I like the argument as Tarun has > > put > > > forth,wherein he does NOT ask anyone to shelve Lahiri etc but try to > > > use his researched Ayanamsa,which is sceintifically,astronomically > > > accurate. > > > > > > If,you have anyway of informing me,with present Maha Dasa ie Guru > > > Mhadasa,Ketu Antar Dasa,Mercury Pratyantar Dasa....etc as Taruns > > > ayanamsha,is wrong,Please explain to me.I am convinced,please tell > > me > > > why you are not convinced,if you wish.But your feedback is > > > appreciated,for i am excited about Taruns findings,which in my > > opinion > > > is right way. > > > > > > Suresh > > > > > > <% 40>, > > Pratap Kaneria <pkaneria@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Suresh, > > > > > > > > I cast your chart and dasa per TA based on the birthdata > > provided > > > by you and I am listing vimsottari dasa covering dates of various > > > events you mention. I am failing to understand when you say every > > > event is tallying. One thing I am sure of is that I know how to > > cast a > > > horoscope using TA. Actually I would like to believe that TA works > > > better but I am trying to find definitive proofs. > > > > > > > > Your Marriage: May 6, 1991 > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > > Ket AD: 1990-11-22 (7:25:14) - 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) > > > > Rah PD: 1991-04-28 (0:14:53) - 1991-06-26 (0:09:20) > > > > > > > > Your First child: June 14, 1992 > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > > > > Sun PD: 1992-06-08 (7:09:19) - 1992-08-03 (20:53:43) > > > > > > > > Your Second child: Sept 8, 1993 > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > Rah MD: 1980-05-20 (10:54:55) - 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) > > > > Ven AD: 1991-12-10 (7:51:29) - 1994-12-10 (2:16:19) > > > > Jup PD: 1993-06-17 (23:27:19) - 1993-11-13 (3:34:44) > > > > > > > > Your Trip to US : June 6, 1998 > > > > > > > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > > > Jup MD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2014-05-21 (4:09:54) > > > > Jup AD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 2000-07-09 (18:51:13) > > > > Jup PD: 1998-05-21 (1:35:56) - 1998-09-04 (23:34:27) > > > > > > > > Would please explain why you say events are happening when dasa > > > changes ? Are you looking at some dasa other than vimsottari ? > > > > > > > > With Regards, > > > > > > > > Pratap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sureshbalaraman <sureshbalaraman@> wrote: > > > > With Taruns ayanamsha,every event that has happened is tallying > > for > > > > me.My marriage May 6,1991.My first born,daughter June 14,1992.My > > > > second born ,son,spet 8,1993.My coming to usa June 6,1998.My wife > > > > starting a home based biz,gosh,i only wish he predicts my > > > > future,events too.Though i thank,Tarun from the bottom of my > > heart.Now > > > > my Nakshatara is Uttaraphalguni,my dasa is Ju/Ve.Hip Hip Hooray. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH > > > THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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