Guest guest Posted July 15, 2006 Report Share Posted July 15, 2006 The knower is not ahamkara which is the product of ignorance. Advaitin claims that anubhuthi is without a knower, asraya and the known, vishaya. Due to illusion it appears as the knower as the shell silver appears as silver. Anubhuthi is the adhishtAna or substratum of illusion like the silver and hence real. Ramanuja says that this is untenable. The perception is always is of the form 'I perceive, ' and not as 'I am the perception.' Anubhuthi shows the knower to be separate from the object of perception as when Devadatta is seen having a staff, it is not the perception of the staff alone but also the one who is holding the staff. So the experience 'I perceive' shows the 'I' having the anubhuthi, and is not of anubhuthi only. Ramnuja refutes the view that the concept of knower is an illusion,mithyA, as in the identification of AthmA with the body saying 'I am stout'etc.If so, even the identification if anubhuthi with the AtmA would be delusion because it is perceived by the one under illusion. If it is argued that the knowledge of Brahman which removes all illusion does not affect perception, anubhuthi ,(the perception in the abstract meaning and not that of objects) and hence it is not an illusion, then the same argument holds good for the Self which is having the perception.and is hence the knower and therefore cannot be mithyA. ` Advaitin contends that since the Self is devoid of changes it cannot be the knower. Knowing involves changes as knowing is an action and the AthmA is actionless. To be a knower requires an object to be known and the action of knowing, all of which are the effects of avidhya. So the knowership abides in ahamkara and not in the Self. Otherwise the imperfections of the body will adhere to the Self. Ramanuja refutes this. JnAthrthva, knowership does not belong to the ahamkara which is jada, It is distinguished from the Self on the same grounds that the body and other objects which are all dhrsyas, objects of perception, are , being outward, being perceived. Ahamkara is also perceived and hence not the perceiver.. It is also the product of avidhya and therefore jada. Being not the perceiver the ahamkara cannot be the knower. The reason given to show that the knower is not the Self, namely, that it is subject to change, is not correct, says Ramanuja, 'na cha jnAthrthvam vikriyaAthmakam jnAthrthvam hi jnAnaguNAsrayathvam jnAnam cha asya nithyasya svAbhAvika dharmathvEna nithyam; nithyam cha Athmanah "nAthmA sruthEh" ithi vakshyathi.' The knower is not subject to changes . JnAthrthvam, knowership, has jnAna as its attribute and jnAna is the essential attribute of the Self which is eternal and hence jnAna is also eternal. That the Self is eternal is shown by the suthras ' nAthmA srutheh'(BS.2-3-18), jnO athaEva (2-3- 19 which means that the Self is not a product but is eternal and so is the knowledge which is its attribute which is confirmed by the sruti texts. It could not be argued that if jnAna is eternal and the essential characterestic of the Self, then one should be knowing all at all times because the jnAna though unlimited by nature attains samkocha vikAsa, contraction and expansion depending on the state of bondage and that of release. The contraction of jnAna is not svAbhAvika, natural but is due to the amount of karma at a particular time and therefore it is karmakrtha, effect of karma. Thus the Self is changeless in reality. So the jnAhrthva, knowership pertains only to the Self and not to ahamkara, ego. Advaitin comes up with an explanation that the ahamkara appears to be the knower due to close proximity with the perception, anubhuthi created by the falling of shadow upon one another. Ramanuja asks him 'kA chitcchAyApatthih? kim ahmakAracchAyApatthih samvidhah uthasamvicchAyApatthih ahamkaarasya? na thAvath samvidhah jnAthrthva ANbhyupagamAth;nApyahamkArasya, ukthareethyA thasya jadasya jnAthrthva ayOgAth.' It should be specified as to the shadow of which falls on which. Either ahamkara casts its shadow on the samvid or vice versa. Samvid is not accepted as the knower as shown already and ahamkara is jada being the product of avidhya, and therefore cannot be the knower.There is yet another valid reason for neither of them to be the knower, says Ramanuja, 'dhvayOrapi achAkshushthvAccha,na hi achAkshushANAm cchAyA dhrshtA,' both being not seen by the eye and a thing not seen is not known to cast a shadow. If it is said to be similar to the situation where a piece of iron put into the fire attains the heat of the fire and thus the knowership appears in ahamkAra with the contact of anubhuthi that also fails to prove the point. Since anubhuthi itself is not a knower it cannot impart the knowership to ahamkAra. Advaitin tries to surmount this difficulty by saying that neither ahamkAra nor anubhuthi is the knower. AhamkAra only reflects anubhuthi like a mirror and gives an appearance of anubhuthi to be in it.So ahamkAra seems to be the knower of anubhuthi. This argument is forwarded on the basis that the concept of knower is not real according to the theory of advaita.Even this cannot be accepted because ahmkAra is incapable of manifesting anything being a jada and anubhuthi is said to be self-proved and manifests everything else including ahamkAra. Ramnuja quotes from 'Athmasiddhi' of Yamunacharya to disprove this explanation. It says,'shAnthAngAra iva Adhithyam ahamkArO jadAthmikA svayamjyothisham aAthmAnam vyanakthi ithi na yukthimath,' AhamkAra being insentient cannot manifest the Athma, which is self illumined as an extinguished fire cannot manifest the Sun. As anubhuthi is self-proved according to the advaitin it is contradictory to ahamkAra which is jada and if anubhuthi is said to be manifested by ahamkAra it ceases to be anubhuthi as per the theory of advaita. To quote from Athmasiddhi again, 'vyangthrvyangyathvamanyOnyam na cha syAt prAthikoolyathah vyangyathvE ananubhuthithvam AthmanisyAth yathA ghatE.' The relationship of the manifestor and manifested cannot happen between two entities of conflicting nature.It cannot be said that like the rays of the Sun enter through a hole are manifested on the hand samvid is manifested in ahamkAra because the rays of the Sun are not manifested by the palm which only obstructs them and they manifest themselves. .. Ramanuja asks, 'kimchAsyasmvitsvarupasya Athmanh ahamkAra nirvarthyA abhivyakthih kim rupA?,' what is the nature of the manifestation of samvid, which is Athman, for advaitins? It is not produced since samvid or anubhuthi is said to be unoriginated. Nor does it appear, as the anubnuthi is said to be not the object of another perception. It cannot also be an indirect manifestation through another means like the sense-contact with the object or by removing the obstruction that prevents manifestation.The first kind is seen in the perception of jati by seeing the vyakthi, the object that belongs to the jati and the perception of the face in the mirror by the contact of the eye with the image.The second is the removal of defect from the perceiver which obstructs the perception, as the control of mind and senses through samadhamadhi in order to help the comprehension of the sasthras, which provide the knowledge of Brahman.Ramanuja dismisses both kinds of manifestation of anubhuthi by ahamkara by quoting from Athmasiddhih. "KaraNAnAm abhoomithvAth na thathsambandha hEthuthA; ahamarThasyaboddhrthvAthna sa thenaiva soDhyathE." The first is not possible since anubhuthi is not an object of sense perception and the second also is impossible since ahamkara is the perceiver according to advaitin and hence cannot remove its own defect. Neither does Ahamkara help perception in the way that a lamp helps the eye to perceive the object which was hitherto in darkness. There can be no obstacle to be removed in the case of perception through ahamkAra. AjnAna cannot reside in anubhuthi which is self -luminous and ajnAna can only be removed by jnAna. Since samvid is said to be of the nature of jnAna, being the same as Atman,ajAna cannot reside in it as jnAna and ajnAna are mutually exclusive. AjnAna, ignorance can reside only in the knower and not in the known, like ghata. Since anubhuthi, identical with Athma for advaitin, is not the knower but a mere perception and a witness ajnAna cannot reside in it. Moreover if ajnana is said to be a bhava padhArtha, a positive entiy it will be refuted later. If on the otherhand it is mere absence of jnAna, it is not an obstacle and comes to an end as soon as the jnAna arises. So by no reason whatsoever ahamkAra can manifest anubhuthi. Also the contention that anubhuthi is manifested by ahamkAra as abiding in it is not acceptable. The manifesting agents like a bright light do not show the object they manifest, as abiding in them. Even a mirror does not manifest the face but only the light does it which when reflected inside the mirror shows the face as though it is inside the mirror.Similarlt the jnAna is the manifestor and not the ahamkAra. anubhuthi being self-proved is not perceived by the eye and hence ahamkAra cannot show it as an erraneous perception appearing itself as a knower. AhamkAra is therfore not the knower and thre real knower is the Self and the anubhuthi is not the Self. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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