Rules to be observed by Vaishnavaite devotee

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Respected Sri Vaishnava Bhakthaas,

When a Vaishnavite devotee has undergone what a layman would call

Pancha Samskaram at the hands of a Jiyar, can he go to a non-

vaishnava temple such as Shiva, Vinayaka and Muruga?

Had Ramanuja laid down any restriction?

I would be grateful for an opinion/advice.

Shrimathe Ramanujaaya Namaha!

Adiyen Devarajan.

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Jaisrimannarayana

 

My humble point is whether a married girl requires any

restrictions/instructions to desist her from going to other

houses when her husband is fully able in all respects.

Similarly a vaishnavite who has undergone Pancha samskaram and then Saranagathi is akin to getting married to Lord Srimannarayana through the lineage of Bhagawad Ramanujacharya. Thus there is no need to go to any other shrine unrelated to Lord Srimannarayana or Bhagawad Ramanuja

Jaisrimannarayana

Dr.Kilambi Ramakrishna Ramanuja Dasan

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SrI:

Dear Sri Venkat

Interesting query:

 

Sri Satakopar clarifies your query:

This is not applicable for vaishnavas alone. In fact, it is aptly

applied to all jeevathmas. [who believe in vedas]

extract from thiruvaymozhi 4.10

 

1. When there were no dEvA, dEva kulam, human life, or any tatvam

like mahat, - during that kaalam, Emperumaan started creating the

world. The four-faced BrahmA, dEvAs, their lOkam and all other

beings were all created by Him. Such Bhagawaan, my Emperumaan is

standing most gracefully at Thirukkurugoor as Adhipiraan. When He

stands in such archA form, why do you all search for other demi-

Gods? Not at all called for.

 

2. Oh Guys! who live at various places in the world! (AzhwAr

addresses us only across the net!). That Adhi Piraan has also

created the God whom you love so much and worship (including you).

He is filled entirely with greatest kalyANa guNAs and is faultless

and blemishless. He stands most beautifully at Thirukurugoor. Please

praise Him in good stOthrams, dancing and singing His glories and

reach His Lotus Feet.

 

3. Emperumaan Sriman Narayanan only created all other demi Gods and

all worlds in this universe. He is the One who swallowed the

universe during the cosmic cycle and protected it. Later He brought

it out by spitting the universe. He is the One who measured the

universe in His one step. He is the One who brought the Mother Earth

out and saved during His Varaaha avathaaram. Even after knowing all

these greatest deeds of His, don't you all realize that He is the

Paran? He is The One who stands at Thirukurugoor as Adhipiraan and

is the one worshipped by dEvAs. Oh Guys of different places! There

is No Other God that does not have This Paran Adhipiraan as the

antharyaami in them; If there is one, come on, come and talk to me;

I will explain to you and clarify your doubts: ( I do not tell;

AzhwAr says this point blank.) All (demi)Gods are His sarIram only;

 

4. That Bhagawaan, Sriman Narayanan alone is the Chief of BrahmA and

Sivan and all other dEvAs. Sriman Narayanan removed the head (of

BrahmA) that got stuck with Sivan's hand. With this, get to know

that He alone is the Chief; There is no use of talking uselessly

trying to establish His Parathvam of Thriukkurugoor AdhiPiraan to

people who believe in only guesswork.

 

5. Oh Guys! who talk about different PuraaNas! The samaNargaL,

(Jains), Buddhists, your demi Gods, and in you, in every being, He,

Emperumaan stays as antharyaami. He is the same one who stands most

gracefully at Thirukurugoor as Adhi Piraan. He is the Adhi Naathan.

There is not an iota of lie in all my statements. Hence, Please pray

to Him ONLY and get saved.

 

6. There is also a reason for your getting confused and praying to

other demi Gods. It is your karma palan. It is due to your past

action and you have to pay respects to the actions arising out of

your own past actions (in previous births). If everyone comes to

know His Parathvam and gets saved then He will have no one to play

His leelAs; Realize that and get saved by taking refuge at His Feet

of Thirugurugoor AdhiPiraan. He stands majestically there; He is the

Chief. Hence, look for a way to get saved faster!

 

7. When there is Sriman Narayanan stands gere so gracefully, you

all are approaching other deities and hence have taken so many

births. At least after realizing this, become a servant of

ADHINAATHAN. Get enslaved by Him, who is worshipped even by dEvAs

and is standing at Thirukurugoor.

 

8. When MarkaNedEyan approached Sivan, He saved MarkaNdEyan. It was

possible for Sivan, since Emperumaan showerd His grace on Sivan.

When Such Emperumaan Sriman Narayanan is standing at Thirukkurugoor,

can we talk about other deities and other demi Gods? What

nonsensical thing is that!

 

9. Adhinaathan is immeasurable and incomprehensible; Even the people

of other six religions, maayaavaadins argue with any amount of

logic, it is still not possible to measure His kalYANa guNAs. He is

there at the most fertile land of Thirukkurugoor as Adhipiraan. Have

His form in your mental eye and at the back of your minds; To get

saved and prtected by Him, that is the best way.

 

10. Adhinaatha PerumAL stands at Thirukkurugoor as the Most

faultless, Most Blemishless Lord. In Hi side, all dEvAs, all worlds,

all beings and non-beings, are all His sarIram; Like that everything

is in Him; Such Greatest Piraan, Parathvam, Primordial Chief is

standing gracefully at Thirukkurugoor. Best purushaartham and best

way is to become His servant eternally and serve Him, who is

Vaamanan and KaNNan.

 

So.... why to go to others when they themselves look to Him for alms?

regards

Namo Narayana

dasan

 

 

 

, "Devarajan Venkataramanan"

<devarajanvenkata wrote:

>

> Respected Sri Vaishnava Bhakthaas,

> When a Vaishnavite devotee has undergone what a layman would call

> Pancha Samskaram at the hands of a Jiyar, can he go to a non-

> vaishnava temple such as Shiva, Vinayaka and Muruga?

> Had Ramanuja laid down any restriction?

> I would be grateful for an opinion/advice.

> Shrimathe Ramanujaaya Namaha!

> Adiyen Devarajan.

>

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Namaste!

 

Very optly quoted. Thanks for the elaboration, particularly point 6 on

prarabdha which also determines jeevas for going to other temples, is hard

hitting.

 

One more point that I would think in this regard is on 'adhikara' -

fittedness, which decides as to who shall pray whom. Some gaudiya

vaishnavas say that krishna bhakti will not come to a jeeva so easily, it is

after many births of strenous sadhana that one will be chosen to be a

devotee of krishna. Likewise, the one who is fit to pray to Him pray Him

while others languish their time by praying to others. Thus 'adhikara'

works in disguise within a jeeva so that he will chose his beloved idol for

worship.

 

For one who has adhikara/fittedness to pray/contemplate on Narayana, put him

in the middle of a temple housing various other gods, beautifully carved

idols and huge gopuras, he will not be satisfied, and he looks/searches for

any 'Narayana' sannidhi there.

 

Infact, a vishnu bhaktha becomes very impatient when he is made to enter

other temples. Because he had a vision of beauty of Narayana and he tends

to put him on high priority thus any other idol will not satisfy him much

less lessen the impatience in him to see Narayana.

 

sorry for my ranting.

 

sukumar