Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Dear Prafulla, Yes you are right! When I said, I prefer this over the other -- I was being selfish and as anyone else just wanted to get it over with! IN that frame of mind, the faster moving planets are more welcome obviously! But if an average modern human being lives for 84 years -- let us say! He/She would go through nearly three saturn returns nearly seven jupiter returns I would not even count the venus, mars, sun, and LUNAR returns through all those years! But what about uranus? Its period is 84 years! It is not as if we do not know about it? Is it that inconsequential? Why can we not look at it? What is stopping us from doing that, individually?? rohiniranjan , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Ranjan ji > > Many thanks. Yes, transit will trigger with dasha coincidence. Under dasha calculation (whether KP / your ayanamsa calculation / lahiri / my calculation with modified lahiri etc) - somewhere odd dasha was engaged..bringing bit uncertainity all of sudden. > > When you say - you will prefer afflicted mercury / moon; I presume,you said this for their fast movements - so that, they restore the reversals as well quickly. > > When mercury moved to mithuna, I found some old payments coming in as well. Yes, the upsetting is settling for me at mental level (day before, I was sitting and observing one after another event...puzzling and bit frustrating, not depressing though). > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we star in it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > > > > > > jyotish_vani > > Sat, 22 Jul 2006 03:19:07 -0000 > > > > Re: surprising turn of events > > > > Dear Prafulla ... > > > > Astrological patterns and cycles are linked with time and cycles of > > time! Whatever prevails!! > > > > Personally, I would much rather have mercury or moon afflicted ... > > > > rather than saturn or rahu, or Guru! > > > > Speaking from the jyotish and vimshottari dasha viewpoint, of course. > > > > It would have been a lot worse if Sages included planets all the way > > upto pluto~ > > > > Then we would be looking at transits going all the way up to 248 > > years! > > > > This is not a pick or peck at tropical astrological brethren/sistren > > who are more daring than most of us jyotishis who have traditionally > > been content with stopping at saturn. > > > > I am confident that we will someday get it and understand all nine > > indicators in the 12 realms! > > > > RR > > > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Shri Sharma ji > >> > >> Many thanks for your reply. I use "panna" for quite a time. Mercury > > is in debilitation in D10 transit only. > >> > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we star > > in it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > >> > >> > >>> > >>> polite_astro@ > >>> Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:43:10 -0700 (PDT) > >>> > >>> Re: surprising turn of events > >>> > >>> ll HARE RAM ll > >>> Dear Mr.Prafulla, > >>> Delibilation and retrogradation of Mercury is the main cause of > >>> surprising events because it is also running in pratayanter > > dasa.Now you > >>> should wear a Ruby. > >>> > >>> God bless > >>> Shashie Shekhar > >>> > >>> > >>> Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote: > >>> Dear Members > >>> > >>> I have been going through few meaningful conversations in past > > few weeks > >>> and was about to conclude them (in my expectation in July end > > week). > >>> > >>> All of sudden, 4 such communications have either been postponed > > (or have > >>> come to dead end) in past 24 hours. I have a client, who also > > faced the > >>> identical situation. > >>> > >>> Coming to specific positioning, perhaps - mercury ® in mithuna, > > saturn > >>> combusting and venus entering into ardra constellation might have > > given > >>> this. Mercury / sun also in close aspect from rahu. (as for me - > > leo > >>> lagna - venus being lord of communication; mercury ruler of 2nd > > and 11th; > >>> sun being lagnesh)...OR it might be my misinterpretation; and once > >>> mercury gets direct, sun / mercury gets out of rahu's close > > aspect; these > >>> communications gets revived or new such opportunities surfaces > > with quick > >>> conclusions. > >>> > >>> My chart details - March 8, 1967; 17.40 IST; 26N17 / 73E04 > >>> > >>> I will appreciate, if the above scenerio can be analysed by > > members. and > >>> I am also curious to know, if other members also facing the > > difficulties > >>> in communications / sudden reversals. > >>> > >>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>> > >>> In order to live free and happily you must sacrifice boredom. It > > is not > >>> always an easy sacrifice. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > > RELISH THE > >>> TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > >>> > >>> > >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2006 Report Share Posted July 22, 2006 Prafulla, This is purely conjectural and not researched or thoroughly tested, but it is my belief that the periodicities of planets has a role to play in choosing only the 7 bodies. Saturn's orbit is nearly 30 years and so one with a full term of life can experience 2 or 3 cycles in one lifetimes. AStrology is based on cyclical patterns repeating themselves in lifetime. The period of uranus is 84 years, of neptune and pluto a lot longer (96 and 248 years). These planets are perhaps of significance in the lifetimes of institutions, societies and nations, which have longer lifetimes. There is one thought I have heard somewhere that for most ordinary people they are not sensitive or receptive to the influence of transsaturnines and need to get to a perceptive level before they can come in the influence sphere of U, N and P. Re-engineering nakshatra dashas to include transsaturnine planets would be a herculean effort and as you have seen, even changing one simple factor like ayanamsha can disturb the traditional systems quite a bit. As it stands we do not really understand the rationale behind say -- vimshottari dasha periods (why venus has 20 and sun only 6?). Altering the periods would be risky business -- like taking apart a mercedes engine to add parts to it (without being a car engineer). It would be safer to use the transsaturnines in transits and also with the existing rashi-based dashas. This way you are not altering the infrastructure of dashas and yet testing new influences. RR , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Ranjan ji > > Many a times, I do feel considering all three outer planets, but then we are not given any dasha effects (and constellation rulership, aspects etc). Will it be prudent to be considering transit (general rules with being square/trine etc) & progression only, without the role of their dashas/constellation etc. and this question, takes me back to square. > > Currently uranus is transiting in kumbha (almost close to natal mercury in my chart too). Let me dig more on this and try to see, what can I read from it. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we star in it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > > > > > > jyotish_vani > > Sat, 22 Jul 2006 04:36:17 -0000 > > > > Re: surprising turn of events [uranus] > > > > Dear Prafulla, > > > > Yes you are right! When I said, I prefer this over the other -- I was > > being selfish and as anyone else just wanted to get it over with! > > > > IN that frame of mind, the faster moving planets are more welcome > > obviously! > > > > But if an average modern human being lives for 84 years -- let us say! > > > > He/She would go through nearly three saturn returns > > nearly seven jupiter returns > > I would not even count the venus, mars, sun, and LUNAR returns > > through all those years! > > > > But what about uranus? > > > > Its period is 84 years! > > > > It is not as if we do not know about it? Is it that inconsequential? > > Why can we not look at it? What is stopping us from doing that, > > individually?? > > > > rohiniranjan > > > > > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Ranjan ji > >> > >> Many thanks. Yes, transit will trigger with dasha coincidence. > > Under dasha calculation (whether KP / your ayanamsa calculation / > > lahiri / my calculation with modified lahiri etc) - somewhere odd > > dasha was engaged..bringing bit uncertainity all of sudden. > >> > >> When you say - you will prefer afflicted mercury / moon; I > > presume,you said this for their fast movements - so that, they > > restore the reversals as well quickly. > >> > >> When mercury moved to mithuna, I found some old payments coming in > > as well. Yes, the upsetting is settling for me at mental level (day > > before, I was sitting and observing one after another > > event...puzzling and bit frustrating, not depressing though). > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we star > > in it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > >> > >> > >>> > >>> jyotish_vani@ > >>> Sat, 22 Jul 2006 03:19:07 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: surprising turn of events > >>> > >>> Dear Prafulla ... > >>> > >>> Astrological patterns and cycles are linked with time and cycles > > of > >>> time! Whatever prevails!! > >>> > >>> Personally, I would much rather have mercury or moon afflicted ... > >>> > >>> rather than saturn or rahu, or Guru! > >>> > >>> Speaking from the jyotish and vimshottari dasha viewpoint, of > > course. > >>> > >>> It would have been a lot worse if Sages included planets all the > > way > >>> upto pluto~ > >>> > >>> Then we would be looking at transits going all the way up to 248 > >>> years! > >>> > >>> This is not a pick or peck at tropical astrological > > brethren/sistren > >>> who are more daring than most of us jyotishis who have > > traditionally > >>> been content with stopping at saturn. > >>> > >>> I am confident that we will someday get it and understand all nine > >>> indicators in the 12 realms! > >>> > >>> RR > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear Shri Sharma ji > >>>> > >>>> Many thanks for your reply. I use "panna" for quite a time. > > Mercury > >>> is in debilitation in D10 transit only. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>> > >>>> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we > > star > >>> in it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> polite_astro@ > >>>>> Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:43:10 -0700 (PDT) > >>>>> > >>>>> Re: surprising turn of events > >>>>> > >>>>> ll HARE RAM ll > >>>>> Dear Mr.Prafulla, > >>>>> Delibilation and retrogradation of Mercury is the main cause > > of > >>>>> surprising events because it is also running in pratayanter > >>> dasa.Now you > >>>>> should wear a Ruby. > >>>>> > >>>>> God bless > >>>>> Shashie Shekhar > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote: > >>>>> Dear Members > >>>>> > >>>>> I have been going through few meaningful conversations in past > >>> few weeks > >>>>> and was about to conclude them (in my expectation in July end > >>> week). > >>>>> > >>>>> All of sudden, 4 such communications have either been postponed > >>> (or have > >>>>> come to dead end) in past 24 hours. I have a client, who also > >>> faced the > >>>>> identical situation. > >>>>> > >>>>> Coming to specific positioning, perhaps - mercury ® in > > mithuna, > >>> saturn > >>>>> combusting and venus entering into ardra constellation might > > have > >>> given > >>>>> this. Mercury / sun also in close aspect from rahu. (as for me - > >>> leo > >>>>> lagna - venus being lord of communication; mercury ruler of 2nd > >>> and 11th; > >>>>> sun being lagnesh)...OR it might be my misinterpretation; and > > once > >>>>> mercury gets direct, sun / mercury gets out of rahu's close > >>> aspect; these > >>>>> communications gets revived or new such opportunities surfaces > >>> with quick > >>>>> conclusions. > >>>>> > >>>>> My chart details - March 8, 1967; 17.40 IST; 26N17 / 73E04 > >>>>> > >>>>> I will appreciate, if the above scenerio can be analysed by > >>> members. and > >>>>> I am also curious to know, if other members also facing the > >>> difficulties > >>>>> in communications / sudden reversals. > >>>>> > >>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>> > >>>>> In order to live free and happily you must sacrifice boredom. It > >>> is not > >>>>> always an easy sacrifice. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > >>> RELISH THE > >>>>> TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 And what if the 'row' or even war was initiated and imposed by others? Interesting but that is the quandry that Israel is in these days! Other sides may have other takes on history as it is unfolding in the outer reality! I say 'interesting' but our hearts go to the 'collaterals' who are always damaged, suffer the most while the soldier, on right or wrong side or path ends up being known as a martyr! RR , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Ranjan ji > > I will explore the outer planets through transit analysis system. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > After every "victory" you have more enemies. > > > > > > jyotish_vani > > Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:01:49 -0000 > > > > Re: surprising turn of events [uranus] > > > > Prafulla, > > > > This is purely conjectural and not researched or thoroughly tested, > > but it is my belief that the periodicities of planets has a role to > > play in choosing only the 7 bodies. Saturn's orbit is nearly 30 years > > and so one with a full term of life can experience 2 or 3 cycles in > > one lifetimes. AStrology is based on cyclical patterns repeating > > themselves in lifetime. > > > > The period of uranus is 84 years, of neptune and pluto a lot longer > > (96 and 248 years). These planets are perhaps of significance in the > > lifetimes of institutions, societies and nations, which have longer > > lifetimes. > > > > There is one thought I have heard somewhere that for most ordinary > > people they are not sensitive or receptive to the influence of > > transsaturnines and need to get to a perceptive level before they can > > come in the influence sphere of U, N and P. > > > > Re-engineering nakshatra dashas to include transsaturnine planets > > would be a herculean effort and as you have seen, even changing one > > simple factor like ayanamsha can disturb the traditional systems > > quite a bit. As it stands we do not really understand the rationale > > behind say -- vimshottari dasha periods (why venus has 20 and sun > > only 6?). Altering the periods would be risky business -- like taking > > apart a mercedes engine to add parts to it (without being a car > > engineer). > > > > It would be safer to use the transsaturnines in transits and also > > with the existing rashi-based dashas. This way you are not altering > > the infrastructure of dashas and yet testing new influences. > > > > RR > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Ranjan ji > >> > >> Many a times, I do feel considering all three outer planets, but > > then we are not given any dasha effects (and constellation rulership, > > aspects etc). Will it be prudent to be considering transit (general > > rules with being square/trine etc) & progression only, without the > > role of their dashas/constellation etc. and this question, takes me > > back to square. > >> > >> Currently uranus is transiting in kumbha (almost close to natal > > mercury in my chart too). Let me dig more on this and try to see, > > what can I read from it. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we star > > in it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > >> > >> > >>> > >>> jyotish_vani@ > >>> Sat, 22 Jul 2006 04:36:17 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: surprising turn of events [uranus] > >>> > >>> Dear Prafulla, > >>> > >>> Yes you are right! When I said, I prefer this over the other -- I > > was > >>> being selfish and as anyone else just wanted to get it over with! > >>> > >>> IN that frame of mind, the faster moving planets are more welcome > >>> obviously! > >>> > >>> But if an average modern human being lives for 84 years -- let us > > say! > >>> > >>> He/She would go through nearly three saturn returns > >>> nearly seven jupiter returns > >>> I would not even count the venus, mars, sun, and LUNAR returns > >>> through all those years! > >>> > >>> But what about uranus? > >>> > >>> Its period is 84 years! > >>> > >>> It is not as if we do not know about it? Is it that > > inconsequential? > >>> Why can we not look at it? What is stopping us from doing that, > >>> individually?? > >>> > >>> rohiniranjan > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear Ranjan ji > >>>> > >>>> Many thanks. Yes, transit will trigger with dasha coincidence. > >>> Under dasha calculation (whether KP / your ayanamsa calculation / > >>> lahiri / my calculation with modified lahiri etc) - somewhere odd > >>> dasha was engaged..bringing bit uncertainity all of sudden. > >>>> > >>>> When you say - you will prefer afflicted mercury / moon; I > >>> presume,you said this for their fast movements - so that, they > >>> restore the reversals as well quickly. > >>>> > >>>> When mercury moved to mithuna, I found some old payments coming > > in > >>> as well. Yes, the upsetting is settling for me at mental level > > (day > >>> before, I was sitting and observing one after another > >>> event...puzzling and bit frustrating, not depressing though). > >>>> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>> > >>>> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we > > star > >>> in it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> jyotish_vani@ > >>>>> Sat, 22 Jul 2006 03:19:07 -0000 > >>>>> > >>>>> Re: surprising turn of events > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Prafulla ... > >>>>> > >>>>> Astrological patterns and cycles are linked with time and cycles > >>> of > >>>>> time! Whatever prevails!! > >>>>> > >>>>> Personally, I would much rather have mercury or moon > > afflicted ... > >>>>> > >>>>> rather than saturn or rahu, or Guru! > >>>>> > >>>>> Speaking from the jyotish and vimshottari dasha viewpoint, of > >>> course. > >>>>> > >>>>> It would have been a lot worse if Sages included planets all the > >>> way > >>>>> upto pluto~ > >>>>> > >>>>> Then we would be looking at transits going all the way up to 248 > >>>>> years! > >>>>> > >>>>> This is not a pick or peck at tropical astrological > >>> brethren/sistren > >>>>> who are more daring than most of us jyotishis who have > >>> traditionally > >>>>> been content with stopping at saturn. > >>>>> > >>>>> I am confident that we will someday get it and understand all > > nine > >>>>> indicators in the 12 realms! > >>>>> > >>>>> RR > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> , Prafulla Gang > > <jyotish@> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Shri Sharma ji > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Many thanks for your reply. I use "panna" for quite a time. > >>> Mercury > >>>>> is in debilitation in D10 transit only. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we > >>> star > >>>>> in it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> polite_astro@ > >>>>>>> Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:43:10 -0700 (PDT) > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Re: surprising turn of events > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> ll HARE RAM ll > >>>>>>> Dear Mr.Prafulla, > >>>>>>> Delibilation and retrogradation of Mercury is the main cause > >>> of > >>>>>>> surprising events because it is also running in pratayanter > >>>>> dasa.Now you > >>>>>>> should wear a Ruby. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> God bless > >>>>>>> Shashie Shekhar > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote: > >>>>>>> Dear Members > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I have been going through few meaningful conversations in past > >>>>> few weeks > >>>>>>> and was about to conclude them (in my expectation in July end > >>>>> week). > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> All of sudden, 4 such communications have either been > > postponed > >>>>> (or have > >>>>>>> come to dead end) in past 24 hours. I have a client, who also > >>>>> faced the > >>>>>>> identical situation. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Coming to specific positioning, perhaps - mercury ® in > >>> mithuna, > >>>>> saturn > >>>>>>> combusting and venus entering into ardra constellation might > >>> have > >>>>> given > >>>>>>> this. Mercury / sun also in close aspect from rahu. (as for > > me - > >>>>> leo > >>>>>>> lagna - venus being lord of communication; mercury ruler of > > 2nd > >>>>> and 11th; > >>>>>>> sun being lagnesh)...OR it might be my misinterpretation; and > >>> once > >>>>>>> mercury gets direct, sun / mercury gets out of rahu's close > >>>>> aspect; these > >>>>>>> communications gets revived or new such opportunities surfaces > >>>>> with quick > >>>>>>> conclusions. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> My chart details - March 8, 1967; 17.40 IST; 26N17 / 73E04 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I will appreciate, if the above scenerio can be analysed by > >>>>> members. and > >>>>>>> I am also curious to know, if other members also facing the > >>>>> difficulties > >>>>>>> in communications / sudden reversals. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> In order to live free and happily you must sacrifice boredom. > > It > >>>>> is not > >>>>>>> always an easy sacrifice. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > >>>>> RELISH THE > >>>>>>> TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Prafulla, Your quotes say it all, really! Sigh!! RR , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Ranjan ji > > I received few quotes on war (from a mailing list), very relevant and provoking. - let me reproduce it. > > *** > > War is a racket. It always has been. It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. > > If you are neutral in situations of injustice, you have chosen the side of the oppressor. If an elephant has its foot on the tail of a mouse and you say that you are neutral, the mouse will not appreciate your neutrality. > > *** > > Israel's invasion on lebanon is very unfortunate, and so was Bomb blast at Mumbai. It is difficult to really justify these wars / terrorist attacks. People on the other side, often do by escalating these actions. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > After every "victory" you have more enemies. > > > > > > jyotish_vani > > Mon, 24 Jul 2006 23:34:42 -0000 > > > > Re: surprising turn of events [uranus] > > > > And what if the 'row' or even war was initiated and imposed by > > others? Interesting but that is the quandry that Israel is in these > > days! Other sides may have other takes on history as it is unfolding > > in the outer reality! > > > > I say 'interesting' but our hearts go to the 'collaterals' who are > > always damaged, suffer the most while the soldier, on right or wrong > > side or path ends up being known as a martyr! > > > > RR > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Ranjan ji > >> > >> I will explore the outer planets through transit analysis system. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> After every "victory" you have more enemies. > >> > >> > >>> > >>> jyotish_vani@ > >>> Sat, 22 Jul 2006 20:01:49 -0000 > >>> > >>> Re: surprising turn of events [uranus] > >>> > >>> Prafulla, > >>> > >>> This is purely conjectural and not researched or thoroughly > > tested, > >>> but it is my belief that the periodicities of planets has a role > > to > >>> play in choosing only the 7 bodies. Saturn's orbit is nearly 30 > > years > >>> and so one with a full term of life can experience 2 or 3 cycles > > in > >>> one lifetimes. AStrology is based on cyclical patterns repeating > >>> themselves in lifetime. > >>> > >>> The period of uranus is 84 years, of neptune and pluto a lot > > longer > >>> (96 and 248 years). These planets are perhaps of significance in > > the > >>> lifetimes of institutions, societies and nations, which have > > longer > >>> lifetimes. > >>> > >>> There is one thought I have heard somewhere that for most ordinary > >>> people they are not sensitive or receptive to the influence of > >>> transsaturnines and need to get to a perceptive level before they > > can > >>> come in the influence sphere of U, N and P. > >>> > >>> Re-engineering nakshatra dashas to include transsaturnine planets > >>> would be a herculean effort and as you have seen, even changing > > one > >>> simple factor like ayanamsha can disturb the traditional systems > >>> quite a bit. As it stands we do not really understand the > > rationale > >>> behind say -- vimshottari dasha periods (why venus has 20 and sun > >>> only 6?). Altering the periods would be risky business -- like > > taking > >>> apart a mercedes engine to add parts to it (without being a car > >>> engineer). > >>> > >>> It would be safer to use the transsaturnines in transits and also > >>> with the existing rashi-based dashas. This way you are not > > altering > >>> the infrastructure of dashas and yet testing new influences. > >>> > >>> RR > >>> > >>> , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > >>> wrote: > >>>> > >>>> Dear Ranjan ji > >>>> > >>>> Many a times, I do feel considering all three outer planets, but > >>> then we are not given any dasha effects (and constellation > > rulership, > >>> aspects etc). Will it be prudent to be considering transit > > (general > >>> rules with being square/trine etc) & progression only, without the > >>> role of their dashas/constellation etc. and this question, takes > > me > >>> back to square. > >>>> > >>>> Currently uranus is transiting in kumbha (almost close to natal > >>> mercury in my chart too). Let me dig more on this and try to see, > >>> what can I read from it. > >>>> > >>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>> > >>>> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we > > star > >>> in it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> jyotish_vani@ > >>>>> Sat, 22 Jul 2006 04:36:17 -0000 > >>>>> > >>>>> Re: surprising turn of events [uranus] > >>>>> > >>>>> Dear Prafulla, > >>>>> > >>>>> Yes you are right! When I said, I prefer this over the other - - > > I > >>> was > >>>>> being selfish and as anyone else just wanted to get it over > > with! > >>>>> > >>>>> IN that frame of mind, the faster moving planets are more > > welcome > >>>>> obviously! > >>>>> > >>>>> But if an average modern human being lives for 84 years -- let > > us > >>> say! > >>>>> > >>>>> He/She would go through nearly three saturn returns > >>>>> nearly seven jupiter returns > >>>>> I would not even count the venus, mars, sun, and LUNAR returns > >>>>> through all those years! > >>>>> > >>>>> But what about uranus? > >>>>> > >>>>> Its period is 84 years! > >>>>> > >>>>> It is not as if we do not know about it? Is it that > >>> inconsequential? > >>>>> Why can we not look at it? What is stopping us from doing that, > >>>>> individually?? > >>>>> > >>>>> rohiniranjan > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> , Prafulla Gang > > <jyotish@> > >>>>> wrote: > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Dear Ranjan ji > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Many thanks. Yes, transit will trigger with dasha coincidence. > >>>>> Under dasha calculation (whether KP / your ayanamsa > > calculation / > >>>>> lahiri / my calculation with modified lahiri etc) - somewhere > > odd > >>>>> dasha was engaged..bringing bit uncertainity all of sudden. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> When you say - you will prefer afflicted mercury / moon; I > >>>>> presume,you said this for their fast movements - so that, they > >>>>> restore the reversals as well quickly. > >>>>>> > >>>>>> When mercury moved to mithuna, I found some old payments coming > >>> in > >>>>> as well. Yes, the upsetting is settling for me at mental level > >>> (day > >>>>> before, I was sitting and observing one after another > >>>>> event...puzzling and bit frustrating, not depressing though). > >>>>>> > >>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>> > >>>>>> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and we > >>> star > >>>>> in it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > >>>>>> > >>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> jyotish_vani@ > >>>>>>> Sat, 22 Jul 2006 03:19:07 -0000 > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Re: surprising turn of events > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Dear Prafulla ... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Astrological patterns and cycles are linked with time and > > cycles > >>>>> of > >>>>>>> time! Whatever prevails!! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Personally, I would much rather have mercury or moon > >>> afflicted ... > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> rather than saturn or rahu, or Guru! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Speaking from the jyotish and vimshottari dasha viewpoint, of > >>>>> course. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> It would have been a lot worse if Sages included planets all > > the > >>>>> way > >>>>>>> upto pluto~ > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> Then we would be looking at transits going all the way up to > > 248 > >>>>>>> years! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> This is not a pick or peck at tropical astrological > >>>>> brethren/sistren > >>>>>>> who are more daring than most of us jyotishis who have > >>>>> traditionally > >>>>>>> been content with stopping at saturn. > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> I am confident that we will someday get it and understand all > >>> nine > >>>>>>> indicators in the 12 realms! > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> RR > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> , Prafulla Gang > >>> <jyotish@> > >>>>>>> wrote: > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Dear Shri Sharma ji > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Many thanks for your reply. I use "panna" for quite a time. > >>>>> Mercury > >>>>>>> is in debilitation in D10 transit only. > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> Our life is a great movie, we direct it, we produce it, and > > we > >>>>> star > >>>>>>> in it. So turn off the TV and live your life!! > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> polite_astro@ > >>>>>>>>> Fri, 21 Jul 2006 11:43:10 -0700 (PDT) > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Re: surprising turn of events > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> ll HARE RAM ll > >>>>>>>>> Dear Mr.Prafulla, > >>>>>>>>> Delibilation and retrogradation of Mercury is the main > > cause > >>>>> of > >>>>>>>>> surprising events because it is also running in pratayanter > >>>>>>> dasa.Now you > >>>>>>>>> should wear a Ruby. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> God bless > >>>>>>>>> Shashie Shekhar > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> wrote: > >>>>>>>>> Dear Members > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I have been going through few meaningful conversations in > > past > >>>>>>> few weeks > >>>>>>>>> and was about to conclude them (in my expectation in July > > end > >>>>>>> week). > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> All of sudden, 4 such communications have either been > >>> postponed > >>>>>>> (or have > >>>>>>>>> come to dead end) in past 24 hours. I have a client, who > > also > >>>>>>> faced the > >>>>>>>>> identical situation. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Coming to specific positioning, perhaps - mercury ® in > >>>>> mithuna, > >>>>>>> saturn > >>>>>>>>> combusting and venus entering into ardra constellation might > >>>>> have > >>>>>>> given > >>>>>>>>> this. Mercury / sun also in close aspect from rahu. (as for > >>> me - > >>>>>>> leo > >>>>>>>>> lagna - venus being lord of communication; mercury ruler of > >>> 2nd > >>>>>>> and 11th; > >>>>>>>>> sun being lagnesh)...OR it might be my misinterpretation; > > and > >>>>> once > >>>>>>>>> mercury gets direct, sun / mercury gets out of rahu's close > >>>>>>> aspect; these > >>>>>>>>> communications gets revived or new such opportunities > > surfaces > >>>>>>> with quick > >>>>>>>>> conclusions. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> My chart details - March 8, 1967; 17.40 IST; 26N17 / 73E04 > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> I will appreciate, if the above scenerio can be analysed by > >>>>>>> members. and > >>>>>>>>> I am also curious to know, if other members also facing the > >>>>>>> difficulties > >>>>>>>>> in communications / sudden reversals. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> regards / Prafulla Gang > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> In order to live free and happily you must sacrifice > > boredom. > >>> It > >>>>>>> is not > >>>>>>>>> always an easy sacrifice. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND > >>>>>>> RELISH THE > >>>>>>>>> TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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