If you could travel back in time....

[Guest guest]

Would you go ~500 or 5000 years back?

[Guest guest]

To ayodhya. To hang with guha, jatayu, et al.

 

mahaksadasa

[Guest guest]

New York, 1965.

[Guest guest]

If my wishes could come true, I would like be to be born in March, 1496 A.D. at Sri Nabadwip Dham.

[Tirisilex]

If I were to travel thru time I'd want to stop at several places.. I'd go see Krishna when he was present on earth.. Buddha.. Jesus.. and other great saints of the great religions.. I wish to talk with each one keep records of what they answered.. Just to satisfy my curiosity.

[gHari]

Of course, if you really want, in your next life you could be born in the universe where Lord Krishna arrives for His pastimes. So the question is not simply academic. Srila Bhaktisiddhanta said that Sri Caitanya's pastimes in Gaura-lila are always happening here, sometimes they are visible, sometimes not.

[Pankaja_Dasa]

Back to school to beat the crap out of some 'poeple'.

[Guest guest]

I can identify with that, Pankaja prabhu! Excellent!

 

Still laughing out loud.

[gHari]

Excerpt from "<a href=http://www.guardian-of-devotion.de/books/HEARTHALO.PDF target=new>Heart and Halo</a>" by Srila Sridhara Maharaja:

 

In Adi-lila 10.53, it is explained that Srila Gadadhar Das, the twenty-third branch of the Chaitanya tree, is considered to be a united form of Candrakanti, who is the effulgence of Srimati Radharani, and Purnananda, who is the foremost of Lord Balarama’s very dear girlfriends. Thus Srila Gadadhar Das was one of the associates of both Chaitanya Mahaprabhu and Nityananda Prabhu.)

 

 

It is as if Mahaprabhu has taken away Gadadhar Pandit’s soul, and the body is still standing! That is the position of Gadadhar Pandit; he is quite empty, and following Mahaprabhu. He is not full in himself. Something, the most important thing, his heart, has been taken by Mahaprabhu, so he has no other alternative but to follow Him. He is wholly given to Mahaprabhu. Gadadhar Pandit’s position, the part he played, was something like that of Radharani, Her heart stolen by Krishna, the empty body still standing. Radha-bhava-dyuti-subalitam naumi Krsna-svarupam: He was fully engrossed in the conception of Sri Gauranga. Gauranga had taken everything from him, so he had no other alternative; he was fully engrossed, captured completely by Him.

 

 

We find his activity throughout his whole life was like this. Of the other devotees, some were ordered to go to Vrndavan, and some were allowed to go to Vrndavan, and some were allowed to go there, but though Gadadhar Pandit wanted to visit Vrndavan with Mahaprabhu Himself, he was denied: “No, you won’t go.” When Jagadananda Pandit asked to go there, Mahaprabhu, with hesitation, granted him permission, “Yes, go there, but move always under the guidance of Rupa and Sanatana.” He also gave him some special instructions: “Do this, and this, and don’t do that.” But Gadadhar Pandit was not allowed to go there.

 

 

He was the representation of Srimati Radharani Herself, yet his peculiar position was such: the Queen of Vrndavan, but now transferred to Nabadwip. His position had become just the opposite; he could not enter Vrndavan! He prayed for permission, but Mahaprabhu did not give it. He said, “No, stay and live here.” And he had to do so. Sri Gadadhar Pandit represents the predominated moiety of the Whole. The Whole consists of predominating and predominated moieties, and he represents the predominated half. He is one half of the Absolute Truth. In the teachings of Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, whose preaching was inspired by Sri Gadadhar Pandit and Sriman Mahaprabhu, we also find all the substance that is present in that plane of vibration. These two personalities, Sri Gadadhar Pandit and Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakur, are our great gurus, our guides, and be offering our worship to them we can sow the seed of our highest benefit. By the grace of that great Guru Maharaj Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Goswami Prabhupada, we have been able to understand this.

 

 

And Bhaktivinoda Thakura, though generally he has his own position, as understood from the consideration of the disciple, Prabhupada Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura has seen Srimad Radharani in him: a ‘relative’ vision. He once said that Radharani represents the full play of astanayika, the eight characteristics of the heroine; we see that they are all perfectly represented in Her. In other places we may find partial representations of them, but we find them fully manifest only in Her.

 

 

He said, “I see my gurudeva as Guna-manjari, and in that manjari form he has some partial representation of Radharani. But if I attempt to look more deeply, I find him identified fully with Her; the eight kinds of qualities displayed in the service of Krishna (asta-nayika) are to be found there. If I look at him with my head a little more erect, I can see that he is one with Radharani. Acaryam mam vijaniyat: know the Acarya as Myself. If I give more attention to this sastric rule and try to search out the meaning, I find that Radharani comes to take Her place there, in the position of my gurudeva.” In this way he has seen in Bhaktivinoda Thakura the fullest representation of the cult of Sri Gauranga.

 

 

This realization is expressed in his poem where he says that he saw Svarupa Damodara Goswami in Gaura-kisor Dasa Babaji, and Sri Gadadhar Pandita in Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura. In one place he has written: gadadhara-din dhari’ paiyacche gaura-hari, that he has accepted the day of the disappearance of Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura to be identified with that of Sri Gadadhar Pandit.. In another place, <B>in his poem at the conclusion of his Sri Chaitanya-caritamrta commentary, he has written: “Here, in Nabadwip-dhama, the eternal pastimes are going on continuously; only those who have got that deep vision can perceive it.

 

 

gadadhara mitra-vara, sri svarupa damodara,

 

sada kala gaura-krsna yaje

 

jagatera dekhi’ klesa, dhariya bhiksuka-vesa,

 

aharahah krsna-nama bhaje

 

sri gaura icchaya dui, mahima ki kava mui,

 

aprakrta parisada-katha

 

prakata haiya seve, krsna-gaurabhinna-deve,

 

aprakasya katha yatha tatha

 

 

He says; “It is very difficult to perceive the sweet will of Sri Gauranga, but if we can lift ourselves to that level, we see that Svarupa Damodar Goswami and Sri Gadadhar Pandit are always engaged in their service here in Nabadwip. Sometimes it is suppressed and sometimes it is appearing on the surface. In that plane all is going on by the sweet will of Sri Gauranga, without any restriction. But now I find that those two have appeared on the surface as Srila Gaura-kisora Dasa Babaji and Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura. I have seen it with my own eye of divine service but this is not to be advertised, not to be given publicity anywhere and everywhere; people will laugh at it. But this is my heartfelt conclusion.”</b> He has written this in his poem concluding Sri Chaitanya-caritamrta.

 

 

So Gadadhar Pandit was identified with Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura. That was the vision of our Gurudeva, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta Saraswati Thakura. He could see in them the same identity. He considered siksa-guru parampara to be the most substantial thing. Eliminating the sahajiya-vada which gives much importance to the outer cover, try to look within, and see things more deeply. Try to understand the deeper vibrations of the outside environment, and see within yourself also. Dive deep, and you will find the plane of the finest vibration which will carry that news to you, and you will see that truth.

 

So those who are worried about 'living' gurus please feel confident to chant <B>Sri Krsna Caitanya Prabhu Nityananda Sri Advaita Gadadhara Srivasadi Gaura-bhakta-vrinda</b>.

[Pankaja_Dasa]

I would go back to when Krishna killed Paundaraka, who was trying to imitate Krishna as Vishnu. It says in Krishna Book that Krishna could'nt stop laughing. And when He killed Siksupala. In Mahabharata serial they didn't show Paundaraka, it would have been good. ! Paundraka! Hahaha.

 

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