Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 Experience and Knowledge: Another obstacle a Vedantic student encounters is his longing for experience of that supreme state or supreme self. It is commonly believed that experience of non-duality (advaita anubhava) is the goal of Vedanta where the mind is absorbed in a state of thoughtlessness or nirvikalpaka samAdhi. What is involved is not the experience of advaita but understanding the advaitic (nondualistic) and dvaitic (dualistic) experiences. Everyday, everyone experiences dvaita and advaita. During the waking and dream states one experience duality or tripuTi – the three-fold aspect of experiencer, experienced and experiencing. These three are mutually exclusive and therefore mutually limit each other. In the deep sleep state, there is complete absence of dvaita, duality, where concept of space, time and all problems associated with duality are absorbed. Here the experiencer and experienced are absorbed into one. In the experience of deep sleep, one is momentarily free from all duality although these exist in potential form as the mind was folded. Due to the absence of duality one is relatively happy. However, there is no knowledge of advaita in deep sleep state, since instrument of knowledge, the mind, is also folded. Hence, it is not the lack of experience of advaita but lack of understanding or knowledge of the advaitic nature of the reality. Vedanta teaching can only give knowledge of advaita and not experience of advaita. It is a common misunderstanding that after learning Vedanta, that one has to sit and meditate on that to experience advaita for self-realization. ‘advaitic experience’ is a contradiction in term, since in any experience there is an experiencer, experienced and experiencing. In some systems of philosophy the nirvikalpa samAdhi involving elimination of thoughts is glorified to the degree that the seekers struggle to gain that experience. Hence, it is understood by some that after studying Vedanta one has to sit for meditation to experience the advaita-state. Any experience is time bound, involves duality or potential duality, and does not involve understanding of the reality. As one swami puts it ‘ignorant agitated individual’ has become ‘ignorant quiet individual’ in the nirvikalpa samAdhi, remaining ‘ignorant’ in both states. There are some who think that all one has to do is to sit in meditation enquiring ‘who am I’ and that is the direct path, and there is no need of scriptural study. Inquiry of Brahman is not thoughtless affair; it involves deep analysis of duality that one experiences recognizing the underlying reality using the scriptural knowledge. ‘State of absence of duality’ is not advaita but only a potential dvaita since all duality in deep sleep state are only in the potential form. Non-duality in spite of duality involves an understanding that duality is only apparent and is not a reality. The reality is the existent-consciousness that ‘I am’ is limitless eternal entity and is the substantive for all duality. Hence, it is non-negatable knowledge or absolute knowledge, which is of the nature of Brahman. We can briefly state the difference between experience and knowledge to insure that we are not longing for experience but knowledge. In principle, listening to a teacher ‘shravaNam’ should accomplish the fact since the truth is eternal ever-existent principle, provided the mind is pure enough to accept the teaching as the fact. The strong preconceived notions of the mind, that I am this body, I am this mind or I am this intellect, make the mind not to recognize that I am the subject and not an object. It requires an unbiased mind or pure mind to accept I am ‘that’, which is unqualified existence-consciousness principle, since all qualifications belong to objects, which are finite, and not the subject I. Hence, dhyAnam or meditation is only for internalizing the teaching by continuous contemplation on the teachings of the Vedanta until the mind is purified enough to see the truth as truth. Scriptural study and contemplation on the teaching are the only means to assimilate the understanding that ‘I am’ the existent-conscious-unlimited, sat-chit-Ananda and not the body-mind-intellect complex that I habitually identify as I am this. For our benefit, we can summarize the differences between knowledge and experience. a) Experience is time bound while knowledge is eternal. b) Experience can be contradicted by another experience. d) Relative knowledge is valid at relative level and not at absolute level. e) One relative knowledge can supersede another relative knowledge (like quantum mechanics superseding classical mechanics). f) Knowledge should resolve the contradictory experiences. g) Absolute knowledge cannot be contradicted. h) All knowledge we know of .. is an attributive knowledge. i) Attributive knowledge is only relative knowledge. j) All attributive knowledge is supported by the absolute knowledge. k) Brahman, as well as the subject ‘I’ cannot be known, since both are not objects to be known. l) Brahman cannot be different from the subject ‘I’ since absolute infinite cannot exclude anything. m) Brahman is sat-chit-ananda and the subject ‘I’ is also sat-chit-ananda. n) sat-chit-ananda is indivisible, and identity of Brahman and ‘I’, the subject is established. MAnDUkya upaniShad confirms that the self ‘I’ is Brahman, ‘ayam Atma Brahman’. o) Objects have no other substantive other than Brahman. Moreover no other substantives other than Brahman can exist, since Brahman is absolutely infinite. Scriptures confirm that ‘sarvam khalvidam Brahma’, everything is indeed Brahman. And ‘neha nAnAsti kincana’, there is nothing other than Brahman. p) If one sees some thing other than Brahman, then that is mithya. Since it is seen, it is not asat, and since it is not real, it is not sat. Hence, it is called mithya (sat asat vilaxanam). q) Conversely, anything that is seen is mithya. Anything that is experienced is mithya, since Brahman cannot be seen or experienced since it is not an object for experience. r) All objective knowledge is only attributive knowledge since substantive Brahman cannot be perceived. Hence all attributive knowledge is mithya. s) Ignorance is 'not knowing who I am', as a result of which, taking what I am not, as I am. t) Bondage is due to the ignorance of my self. Because of this, I take something other than myself as myself and suffer the consequence of that misunderstanding. Liberation is knowing my self as myself and for that Vedanta is the only pramANa or means of knowledge. Liberation is understanding that I am limitless Brahman. The apparent plurality remains the same, but there is no more misunderstanding in the mind that the apparent plurality is reality. Hence it recognition that I am beyond the thoughts - thoughts raise in me, sustained by me and go back into me. Knowledge destroys ignorance means it is the destruction of notional mind which is nothing but ignorance. The objective mind remains which now understands that plurality that appears is only appearances and not real. Hence the upanishad says 'manaeva manuShyAnAm kAraNam bandha moxayoH' - mind is responsible for both bondage and liberation. Some of these concepts become clearer when we analyze the Upanishad mantras. UpaniShad: There are several meanings for the word upanishad – it is normally split as upa + ni + Shad. upa can mean ‘guru upa sadanam’ meaning it is the knowledge that should be gathered by approaching a guru (that is, it cannot be gained by just self-study). upa also means close and closest to one is oneself. Hence it can also mean self-knowledge. ni stands for ‘nischaya jnAnam’ that knowledge which is free from any doubts. Shad means ‘ava sAdayati’ can mean carrier or destroyer. It caries the student to knowledge of the truth or it destroys the ignorance because of which one see the truth as truth. Hence, purpose of the study of the upaniShad is indicated by the very word. MAnDUkya upaniShad is from atharvaNa Veda and is attributed to a sage ManDUka. ManDUka means one who revels or who is ever happy. He revels in himself by himself – Atmanyeva AtmanA tuShTaH since himself that he revels is nothing but limitlessness or happiness itself. It is very small and comprehensive upaniShad. Because of its importance AcArya GauDapAda has written kArika or gloss on the upaniShad and the upaniShad is generally studied along with kArika. GauDapAda is considered as teacher of Shankara’s teacher, GovindapAda or grand teacher of Shankara bhagavadpAda. Shankara has written commentary on both the upaniShad and kArika and down the line Anandagiri has written notes on Shankara bhAShya. upaniShad with kArika has four chapters called prakaraNa. The first chapter is called Agama prakaraNa consisting of all upaniShad mantras and few kArikas on them. The second chapter is called vaithathya prakaraNa discussing the mitya aspect of the world. The third chapter is called advaita prakaraNa dealing with the advaitic nature of the self and non-creation aspect the world. Finally the fourth chapter is called AlAtashanti prakaraNa where in GauDapAda refutes others philosophies existing at that time. ------------------ Invocation Mantra: Om! bhadram karNebhiH shRNuyAma devAH bhadram pashyemAxabhiryajatrAH| sthirairangaiH tuShTuvAgm sastanUbhiH vyaShema devahitam yadAyuH|| svasti na indro vRiddhashravaaH| svasti naH pUShA visvavEdAH|\ svasti nastArtarxyo ariShTanemiH| svasti no bRihaspatirdadhaatue, Om! ShantiH ShantiH ShantiH| Oh! Gods, May we hear through our ears what is auspicious: Oh! Worshipful ones, may we see through our eyes what is auspicious. May we live our allotted life hale and healthy glorifying thee. May the ancient and famous Lord Indra, the all-knowing Lord Sun, and the fast moving Lord VAyu and the master of spiritual wealth Bruhaspati all bless us so that our intellect can understand the scriptures and our heart can follow the teachings. Let there peace without any disturbance from sources unknown (Adidaivika) and let there be peace without any disturbance from all external sources (Adibhautika) and let there be peace from all disturbances from within (aadhyaatmika). Peace! Peace! Peace! The prayer is essentially for three things. 1) May we live long enough to complete our spiritual journey. 2) During this time may we live hale and healthy with all the equipments functioning without any problem and all the sense organs and mind involved only in learning auspicious things. 3) May we be free from all obstacles, at least during our study, so that we can listen with balanced mind and intellect, the truths expounded in the scriptures. With that prayerful attitude, invoking Gods grace on us, let us study the scriptures Hari OM! Sadananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 H.N.Sreenivasa Murthy advaitin, kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada wrote: > > Experience and Knowledge: Dear Sri Sadanandaji, This posting of yours will certainly remove all the misconceptions which many are having. You have, in a very brilliant manner, expounded the pristine pure teaching of Upanishadic Sages. Many of the truths which you have stated have been given a go-by by many and this has resulted in the confusion in their minds. My heartfelt thanks to you for highlighting the vital points which every student of Vedanta who is sincerely after Brahmavidya has to keep in his mind. With warm and respectful regards, Sreenivasa Murthy. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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