Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 I posted this a while ago. Get the book. ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Text PAMHO:11290607 (47 lines) Shyamasundara (das) ACBSP (Vedic Astrologer) (USA) 21-Mar-06 00:42 -0500 Vedic Astrology (Symposium hosted by Shyamasundara Das) [1599] Comment: Text PAMHO:11300218 by Prahladananda Swami Comment: Text PAMHO:11306168 by isckcon Naadi Predictions --------------------------- Dear Maharajas, Prabhus, and Matajis, Please accept my humble obeisance. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. Bhakta-vijna-vinasa Narasimhadeva ki jaya! For those of you who were interested in the Brghu reading that Indradyumna Swami had and wondered where and how you could get one then you may be interested in the following book: "Naadi Predictions" by Wing Commander Shashikant Oak, published by Fusion Books out of Delhi. The inside of the book says it can also be procured from the following website: www.diamondpocketbooks.com. (He spells it Naadi but is generally spelled Nadi, though it is a long A.) This book is not about how to make Nadi predictions but rather about the authors experience with Nadis - Brghu Samhita belongs to the genre of astrology literature called Nadi Grantha. It contains not only his thoughts and experience with Nadis but because he was stationed in many parts of India (Air force personnel) he also gives the names, addresses, prices and comments on 64 Naadi readers that he has consulted in Tamil Nadu (the most), Maharastra, Punjab, Delhi, Kerala, Karnataka and Andra Pradesh. One has to be very careful with Nadi readers as some are cheats and cheating is done in very clever ways. A few years ago when I was Sri Rangam I asked the locals if there were any Nadi readers around, they said yes, but also said he was no good - a cheat. So buyer be ware. Even if they are not cheats you may not be able to find your exact chart and they may use one which is similar and thus get only partial accuracy. My astrology teacher in Kerala, Krsnan Potti, told me that he had been to many Nadis in South India, the best one being in Tanjore, but even that one was only 70% accurate when it came to future predictions. Your mileage may vary. I have personally had readings from the Brghu Samhita, Suka Nadi, and Kala Chandra Nadi. In many areas they said the same things and filled in gaps for each other, but in other areas they contradicted each other. For example they gave different ages for longevity and when it came to marriage one said I would not get married, one said that I would definitely get married, and the third said I might get married; hence all bases were covered (-: As an astrologer it is interesting to note that the Nadis I consulted use house=sign system of house division, Jaimini system is notable by its absence, Vimshottari Mahadasa seems to be favored to the exclusion of others and Navamsa is considered quite important. Your humble servant Shyamasundara Dasa (Text PAMHO:11290607) ----- ------- End of Forwarded Message ------ > dear kanti pr > > pamho > AGTSP > Pr if you get the detail address and phone no of that astrologer of > jaypur then please forward me that as well as there are few devotee at our > place who also want to visit that place > thank you > your servant > acyuta lila das > > > Dear Prabhu, > hare krishna > please accept my humble obeisances > All glories to Srila Prabhupada. > > i am sorry to disturbe all of you. > There is one astrologer (read from brghu samhita) near jaipur,rajasthan, > india.Many of our seniour devotees and maharaja's also visit to this > astrologer. One of my friend from US who is in jaipur today wanted to > visit this atrologer. So i need his contact info. > Any info. (address,telephone no) in this reagard will be very helpful. > thanking in advance > servant of servant > kanti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 There are few devotees in Vrindavan who I know that regularly go and see the person in Udaipur (the one from Indradyumna swami's story). It sees that everything the sadhu ever said was extremely accurate. He is also very humble, doesn't take any money and loves when devotees come (after being frustrated will all the rest that come to see him). However, the problem is that he is very old and is pretty much retired now. He hardly does any readings anymore. There is a young relative of his who does it now but devotees who met him are very reserved about his readings. So in a nutshell, if you can go there and meet the old sadhu, you'll get a very good reading done. I hope this helps. Ys Kanakabja das > > Shyamasundara (das) ACBSP (Vedic Astrologer) (USA) > [shyamasundara.ACBSP (AT) pamho (DOT) net] > 28 July 2006 06:35 > Acyutalila (das) RNS (Pune - IN); (Temple) Delhi (India); Ganga IDS; > Yadu-srestha (das) PVS (TP Perth - AU); Astrology > astrologer in jaipur > > I posted this a while ago. Get the book. > > ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- > > Text PAMHO:11290607 (47 lines) > Shyamasundara (das) ACBSP (Vedic Astrologer) (USA) > 21-Mar-06 00:42 -0500 > Vedic Astrology (Symposium hosted by Shyamasundara Das) [1599] > Comment: Text PAMHO:11300218 by Prahladananda Swami > Comment: Text PAMHO:11306168 by isckcon > Naadi Predictions > --------------------------- > Dear Maharajas, Prabhus, and Matajis, > > Please accept my humble obeisance. All glories to Srila Prabhupada. > Bhakta-vijna-vinasa Narasimhadeva ki jaya! > > For those of you who were interested in the Brghu reading that Indradyumna > Swami had and wondered where and how you could get one then you may be > interested in the following book: > > "Naadi Predictions" by Wing Commander Shashikant Oak, published by Fusion > Books out of Delhi. The inside of the book says it can also be procured > from > the following website: www.diamondpocketbooks.com. (He spells it Naadi but > is generally spelled Nadi, though it is a long A.) > > This book is not about how to make Nadi predictions but rather about the > authors experience with Nadis - Brghu Samhita belongs to the genre of > astrology literature called Nadi Grantha. It contains not only his > thoughts > and experience with Nadis but because he was stationed in many parts of > India (Air force personnel) he also gives the names, addresses, prices and > comments on 64 Naadi readers that he has consulted in Tamil Nadu (the > most), > Maharastra, Punjab, Delhi, Kerala, Karnataka and Andra Pradesh. > > One has to be very careful with Nadi readers as some are cheats and > cheating > is done in very clever ways. A few years ago when I was Sri Rangam I asked > the locals if there were any Nadi readers around, they said yes, but also > said he was no good - a cheat. So buyer be ware. Even if they are not > cheats > you may not be able to find your exact chart and they may use one which is > similar and thus get only partial accuracy. My astrology teacher in Kerala, > Krsnan Potti, told me that he had been to many Nadis in South India, the > best one being in Tanjore, but even that one was only 70% accurate when it > came to future predictions. Your mileage may vary. > > I have personally had readings from the Brghu Samhita, Suka Nadi, and Kala > Chandra Nadi. In many areas they said the same things and filled in gaps > for > each other, but in other areas they contradicted each other. For example > they gave different ages for longevity and when it came to marriage one > said > I would not get married, one said that I would definitely get married, and > the third said I might get married; hence all bases were covered (-: > > As an astrologer it is interesting to note that the Nadis I consulted use > house=sign system of house division, Jaimini system is notable by its > absence, Vimshottari Mahadasa seems to be favored to the exclusion of > others > and Navamsa is considered quite important. > > Your humble servant > > Shyamasundara Dasa > (Text PAMHO:11290607) ----- > > ------- End of Forwarded Message ------ > > > > > > > > > dear kanti pr > > > > pamho > > AGTSP > > Pr if you get the detail address and phone no of that astrologer of > > jaypur then please forward me that as well as there are few devotee at > our > > place who also want to visit that place > > thank you > > your servant > > acyuta lila das > > > > > > Dear Prabhu, > > hare krishna > > please accept my humble obeisances > > All glories to Srila Prabhupada. > > > > i am sorry to disturbe all of you. > > There is one astrologer (read from brghu samhita) near jaipur,rajasthan, > > india.Many of our seniour devotees and maharaja's also visit to this > > astrologer. One of my friend from US who is in jaipur today wanted to > > visit this atrologer. So i need his contact info. > > Any info. (address,telephone no) in this reagard will be very helpful. > > thanking in advance > > servant of servant > > kanti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Dear Kanakabja dasa, Please accept my greetings and the blessings of Lord Krsna. All glories to Srila Prabhupada! > There are few devotees in Vrindavan who I know that regularly go and see > the person in Udaipur (the one from Indradyumna swami's story). It sees > that everything the sadhu ever said was extremely accurate. He is also > very humble, doesn't take any money and loves when devotees come (after > being frustrated will all the rest that come to see him). > > However, the problem is that he is very old and is pretty much retired > now. He hardly does any readings anymore. There is a young relative of his > who does it now but devotees who met him are very reserved about his > readings. > > So in a nutshell, if you can go there and meet the old sadhu, you'll get a > very good reading done. My experience was completely different. I went with three devotees and he told all of us about the same thing. I heard the tape recording of his reading to another devotee and he told him about the same things he told us, which was about the same thing he told Indradyumna Maharaja. I think he has become the friend of the devotees by flattering them. I also observed that he was not reading from the paper that he chose when he was giving his readings, but was more or less making it up as he went on. Hope all is well. Yours in the service of Srila Prabhupada! Prahladananda Swami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 > Dear Kanakabja dasa, > Please accept my greetings and the blessings of Lord Krsna. All > glories to Srila Prabhupada! > > > There are few devotees in Vrindavan who I know that regularly go and see > > the person in Udaipur (the one from Indradyumna swami's story). It sees > > that everything the sadhu ever said was extremely accurate. He is also > > very humble, doesn't take any money and loves when devotees come (after > > being frustrated will all the rest that come to see him). > > > > However, the problem is that he is very old and is pretty much retired > > now. He hardly does any readings anymore. There is a young relative of > > his who does it now but devotees who met him are very reserved about his > > readings. > > > > So in a nutshell, if you can go there and meet the old sadhu, you'll get > > a very good reading done. > > My experience was completely different. I went with three devotees > and he told all of us about the same thing. I heard the tape recording of > his reading to another devotee and he told him about the same things he > told us, which was about the same thing he told Indradyumna Maharaja. I > think he has become the friend of the devotees by flattering them. > > I also observed that he was not reading from the paper that he chose > when he was giving his readings, but was more or less making it up as he > went on. > > Hope all is well. > > Yours in the service of Srila Prabhupada! > Prahladananda Swami Another point is that Jaipura and Udaipur are totally different places so we may be talking about different persons. But Maharaja's point should be kept in mind. A lot of cheating does go on in the name of astrology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Dear Maharaj Please accept my humble obeisances. All glories to Srila Prabhupada! I'm note sure if we are talking about the same person. His readings WERE really accurate and no, he didn't tell everyone the same thing about building the temples, publishing books etc. I'll give you an example: A devotee lady from Europe went to see him with three other devotees. She wasn't too bothered but she went along. The sadhu in near Udaipur perfectly described her past and present to minute details - number of siblings, children, husband, their personal circumstances etc. Then he asked her if she favours one of her brothers over the other. She said no, she likes them both the same. He was quite insistent on this point till he said: Then you must be worrying about one more than the other. That was spot on. Just before leaving from India, her brother's wife went for a scan because she was pregnant. She was told that the child will have Down syndrome and advised her to terminate the pregnancy. So everyone in the family was very concerned. After she said that, the sadhu just dismissed it saying that the doctors made mistake and the kid will be ok. As soon as she was back in Vrindavan, she called her brother to tell him that. Before she managed to mention anything, he said that they went for another test that day and the doctors apologetically said that the first test was wrong and that the baby is ok! Also, all the predictions to this day were accurate to a month. That doesn't sound anything like the reading that IDS had. Another point I remember is when a devotee who was sadhu's regular visitor did his reading at that time, on that sheet for that specific day it said that he will come with 1 man and two woman and the exact time they will come! That was written down and he could read it for him self. And also, why would he flatter devotees if he doesn't take any money from them? So that makes me doubt that we are talking about the same person. Your servant Kanakabja das > > Prahladananda Swami [Prahladananda.Swami (AT) pamho (DOT) net] > 28 July 2006 22:11 > Shyamasundara (das) ACBSP (Vedic Astrologer) (USA); Acyutalila > (das) RNS (Pune - IN); (Temple) Delhi (India); Ganga IDS; Kanakabja > (das) (MTE Manor - UK); Yadu-srestha (das) PVS (TP Perth - AU); > Astrology > RE: astrologer in jaipur > > Dear Kanakabja dasa, > Please accept my greetings and the blessings of Lord Krsna. All > glories to Srila Prabhupada! > > > There are few devotees in Vrindavan who I know that regularly go and > > see the person in Udaipur (the one from Indradyumna swami's story). > > It sees that everything the sadhu ever said was extremely accurate. > > He is also very humble, doesn't take any money and loves when > > devotees come (after being frustrated will all the rest that come to see him). > > > > However, the problem is that he is very old and is pretty much > > retired now. He hardly does any readings anymore. There is a young > > relative of > his > > who does it now but devotees who met him are very reserved about his > > readings. > > > > So in a nutshell, if you can go there and meet the old sadhu, you'll > > get > a > > very good reading done. > > My experience was completely different. I went with three devotees > and he told all of us about the same thing. I heard the tape > recording of his reading to another devotee and he told him about the > same things he told us, which was about the same thing he told > Indradyumna Maharaja. I think he has become the friend of the > devotees by flattering them. > > I also observed that he was not reading from the paper that he chose > when he was giving his readings, but was more or less making it up as > he went on. > > Hope all is well. > > Yours in the service of Srila Prabhupada! > Prahladananda Swami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Dear Shyamasundara prabhu, Please accept my obeisances. _/\ò_ All glories to Srila Prabhupada! > It seems that there are to diametricly opposed experiences regarding this > astrologer. It may be that as Kanakabja suggests that perhaps you are > speaking about two different persons. Would it be possible to find out the > names and addresses of the astrologers involved? This is the name and address of the man I went to see: Brhgu Pandita Nathulal Village Karoi (Karoe) 40 KM From Bilwara Phone: 01482-284605 Hope all is well. Yours servant, Prahladananda Swami Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 > Dear Shyamasundara prabhu, > Please accept my obeisances. _/\ò_ All glories to Srila Prabhupada! > > > It seems that there are to diametricly opposed experiences regarding > > this astrologer. It may be that as Kanakabja suggests that perhaps you > > are speaking about two different persons. Would it be possible to find > > out the names and addresses of the astrologers involved? > > This is the name and address of the man I went to see: > > > Brhgu Pandita Nathulal > Village Karoi (Karoe) > 40 KM From Bilwara > Phone: 01482-284605 > > Hope all is well. > > Yours servant, > Prahladananda Swami Thank you Maharaja. Now Kanakabja Prabhu is this the same person that you are referring to? Shyama Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 > > It seems that there are to diametricly opposed experiences regarding > this > > astrologer. It may be that as Kanakabja suggests that perhaps you are > > speaking about two different persons. Would it be possible to find out > the > > names and addresses of the astrologers involved? > > This is the name and address of the man I went to see: > > > Brhgu Pandita Nathulal > Village Karoi (Karoe) > 40 KM From Bilwara > Phone: 01482-284605 > Yep, that's the same person. Ys Kanakabja das Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Kanakabja forgot t include others so I am forwarding his reply. Of course the reply seems to indicate that your milage may vary when you consult this astrologer as different persons have had very different experiences with him. (-: ---------- Forwarded Message ---------- Letter PAMHO:12005855 (29 lines) [W1] Internet: "Kanakabja Das" <kanakabja (AT) pamho (DOT) net> 02-Aug-06 06:51 -0400 (11:51 +0100) Shyamasundara (das) ACBSP (Vedic Astrologer) (USA) [32148] Reference: Text PAMHO:11998569 by Shyamasundara (das) ACBSP (Vedic Astrologer) (USA) Remark: Sender is not authenticated RE: astrologer in jaipur --------------------------- > > Dear Shyamasundara prabhu, > > Please accept my obeisances. _/\ò_ All glories to Srila Prabhupada! > > > > > It seems that there are to diametricly opposed experiences regarding > > > this astrologer. It may be that as Kanakabja suggests that perhaps you > > > are speaking about two different persons. Would it be possible to find > > > out the names and addresses of the astrologers involved? > > > > This is the name and address of the man I went to see: > > > > > > Brhgu Pandita Nathulal > > Village Karoi (Karoe) > > 40 KM From Bilwara > > Phone: 01482-284605 > > > > Hope all is well. > > > > Yours servant, > > Prahladananda Swami > > Thank you Maharaja. Now Kanakabja Prabhu is this the same person that you > are referring to? Yep, that’s the same person. Ys Kanakabja das (Text PAMHO:12005855) ----- ------- End of Forwarded Message ------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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