Guest guest Posted July 24, 2006 Report Share Posted July 24, 2006 DoshapariHarAShTakam continued – Verse – 4 yassamshritah svahitadhIrvyasanAturastat doShasya tam prati vacah astu tadanyadoSham yadvacmi tanmama na kim Xataye svadoSha cintaiva me tadapanodphalocitAh atah The author says that one can talk about others defects, under any one of the following three conditions only: Condition no.1 – Yassamshritah – If the person has approached me for guidance, either as a student, son or as one seeking shelter in me, with an attitude of taking guidance from me. Condition no.2 – sva-hitadhIh- he is personally interested in getting his doshas corrected. He should have given me permission saying " If I have got any defects, please point them to me, because I want to change." Condition no.3 – vyasanAturah – the other person must be suffering or in difficulty due to dosha. Under any one of these conditions, I have a right to talk or point out the dosha in him/her. Since he has given me permission, he is not going to mistake / feel hurt, as he interested in correcting/changing himself. He has shraddha and bhakti as he has taken guidance from me. My advice is not going to be misunderstood. He/she will apply himself and try to change himself/herself. Tad doShasya tam partyi vacah: point out, that that doSha, to that that person, with that that person's permission. (typical Tamil translated English) Who on earth will give me such an open-minded permission? If given an opportunity, even my own family members will give me a non-stop commentary about me for hours. None of us are ready for this, because we do not want to listen/face our own defects. Then we have no right to find fault with other people. Exception to the rule is, that one of the above conditions applies. Tad anya dosham vachmi – if I talk about the defects of the other person to a third person Tan mama kim xataye? Will it not be harmful to me? So there is only one thing left for me to do sva – doShaive cintaiva me – if at all I have to think/talk of doShas, Oh Lord I must think/talk of the doShas of only one blessed person in the world. Who is this blessed person? It is mama- me and mine alone. How? Here the author gives a strong warning. There are some people who always think about their doShas and in the process develop guilt, inferiority complex, frustration, depression etc. This inferiority complex is dangerous. He /she will constantly brood over that, damaging his personality. There fore, the thought, that should be entertained is ` How should I avoid these doshas?' That I am inferior is not a healthy thinking, labelling myself, as `I am no good/ or good for nothing' is not the purpose. The thinking has to be tadapanodaphala ucitA atah- I have got such and such a defect, how can I eliminate that? What are the methods that I should adopt for elimination? Rather than condemning myself, I should constantly question myself, constantly think about the solutions, read books regarding that, adopt measures to change my attitude, will help me progress. This is INTROSPECTION. To be continued…… Om namo narayanaya Lakshmi Muthuswamy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Lakshmiji - PraNAms. Enjoying your posts. --- lakmuthu <lakmuthu > wrote: > Who on earth will give me such an open-minded permission? If given an > opportunity, even my own family members will give me a non-stop > commentary about me for hours. I could not resist laughing with your above statement. Yes it is very easy to find faults with others and difficult to discover our own. Hari Om! Sadananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 There ia a poem in Telugu like this # tappulennuvAru tanDopatamDambulurvi janulakella vunDu tappu # meaning there are many people to find faults of others but all the people on earth are at fault on one occasion or other.I agree with Sadananda that it is very easy to find fault of others.Though it is not difficult to discover our own fault we try to defend our faults even after realising that we are at fault due to ego. Regards, Jabalimuni. kuntimaddi sadananda <kuntimaddisada > wrote: Lakshmiji - PraNAms. Enjoying your posts. --- lakmuthu <lakmuthu > wrote: > Who on earth will give me such an open-minded permission? If given an > opportunity, even my own family members will give me a non-stop > commentary about me for hours. I could not resist laughing with your above statement. Yes it is very easy to find faults with others and difficult to discover our own. Hari Om! Sadananda Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2006 Report Share Posted July 25, 2006 Thank you Jabala muni-ji for that Telegu poem! May i also share a doha ( two lined verse) from hindu sufi saint Kabir ? Bura Jo Dekhan Main Chala, Bura Naa Milya Koye Jo Munn Khoja Apnaa, To Mujhse Bura Naa Koye Translation I searched for the crooked, met not a single one When searched myself, "I" found the crooked one This doha deals with our perception behavior and tendencies. It has been invariably noticed that we tend to find fault with someone else for our situations and circumstances. Our "I", the ego, always tries to put blame on others. Non-awareness of our own self is the cause of this attitude. Resultantly, we find ourselves being busy in criticizing and condemning others and conveniently term them as crooked or evil. So Kabir says that instead of finding fault and maligning others, dive deep into your own-self. Amazingly, an honest introspection will reveal that all fault lies with "me" and "my" own perceptions and attitudes. If there is any evil or crookedness, it is in "me". Correcting this and opting for a loving and compassionate attitude will change one's perceptions and the world will appear wonderful all over again. – Rajender Krishan http://www.boloji.com here are parallel verses from the Bible Don't judge, so that you won't be judged. For with whatever judgment you judge, you will be judged; and with whatever measure you measure, it will be measured to you. Why do you see the speck that is in your brother's eye, but don't consider the beam that is in your own eye? Or how will you tell your brother,'Let me remove the speck from your eye;' and behold, the beam is in your own eye? You hypocrite! First remove the beam out of your own eye, and then you can see clearly to remove the speck out of your brother's eye. (Matthew 7.5) Gosh! LAKSHMIJI ! YOU MADE US THINK and do some real introspection ! THANK YOU, SWEETHEART! advaitin, Jabali Muni <jabalimuni wrote: > > There ia a poem in Telugu like this > # tappulennuvAru tanDopatamDambulurvi janulakella vunDu tappu # > meaning there are many people to find faults of others but all >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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