Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Dear all, Please help me. I am Sharath.C.Athrey and i have been told that i have KALA SARPA DOSHA. I am not being successful in whatever i do now a days. The dosha is in the tenth house or tenth stage. Please help me by telling me what is the remedy for this dosha. I am really very worried as i am finding very difficult to concentrate on my studies. Please someone do consider my request and reply m back with the remedy. Thank you all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Dear, Here the masters will be able to help You if You give them the details of Your birth, date, time of birth and place. whenever they will have spare time to do so. Please do not press for solutions early. Though You may remind them once in a while. Try to give enquiries for more pressing things rather than common queries as You would be taking at least one hours valuable time of theirs, and unless enquiry relates to trouble faced in life, one should not put it. Regards, one karsevak. , "athrey_sharath" <athrey_sharath wrote: > > Dear all, > > Please help me. I am Sharath.C.Athrey and i have been told that > i have KALA SARPA DOSHA. I am not being successful in whatever i do > now a days. The dosha is in the tenth house or tenth stage. Please > help me by telling me what is the remedy for this dosha. I am really > very worried as i am finding very difficult to concentrate on my > studies. Please someone do consider my request and reply m back with > the remedy. > > Thank you all. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Mr.Sharath Athreya, Things like Kal Sarpa Yoga, helps only quacks...please post ur birth details.... Thanq Wish U all success, With Humbleness, ------------Please dont send me any private message-------------------- , "athrey_sharath" <athrey_sharath wrote: > > Dear all, > > Please help me. I am Sharath.C.Athrey and i have been told that > i have KALA SARPA DOSHA. I am not being successful in whatever i do > now a days. The dosha is in the tenth house or tenth stage. Please > help me by telling me what is the remedy for this dosha. I am really > very worried as i am finding very difficult to concentrate on my > studies. Please someone do consider my request and reply m back with > the remedy. > > Thank you all. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 Dear , The term Kalasarpa Dosha may not be mentioned in the old texts,but probably the hemming of all planets bewteen Rahu/Ketu axis has been given this name. Just like a particular combination of planets gives Guru Chandala Yoga, or Sunpha Yoga, or Anapha Yoga or Gajakesari Yoga. All these combinations have been given names, in the same way the particular position in which planets is placed which causes the effects which are known to incur when Kalasarpa Yoga is there in someones Kundli viz.late progress, etc. must have been given this name in recent years. Like when we address someone as Bhondu, others who hear the name would know that this man is not having enough intelligence. Or when we call someone as Seth Sahab , others know that the person called thus must be a big man. What I mean is common traits-common malefic effects-with this particular combination incurring. What we have to see is beyond the curtain. That this person has this combination and will have effects which are quite common when we see in other natives lives also who have the same combination. For ex. Rahu-Sun combination may produce some common effects in various natives lives who have same combination, may not be complete common depending in which rashi or house placed, yet few common traits. We cannot dismiss this as ...helps only quacks.... The pandits sitting in Trimbakeshwar mandir (Jyotirlinga-Nasik) who do nivarana for ill effects of this combination, I do not have heart or mind or authority or knowledge to call them as quacks. This is not personal, but just a review, to see this combination in new light and no biased block in mind kept ,without giving it space to watch from different approaches of logic. Regards, Bhaskar. , "astrologer_gaurav" <gg_0202 wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Mr.Sharath Athreya, > Things like Kal Sarpa Yoga, helps only quacks...please post ur birth > details.... > Thanq > Wish U all success, > With Humbleness, > > ------------Please dont send me any private message----------------- --- > > > > > , "athrey_sharath" > <athrey_sharath@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > Please help me. I am Sharath.C.Athrey and i have been told > that > > i have KALA SARPA DOSHA. I am not being successful in whatever i do > > now a days. The dosha is in the tenth house or tenth stage. Please > > help me by telling me what is the remedy for this dosha. I am really > > very worried as i am finding very difficult to concentrate on my > > studies. Please someone do consider my request and reply m back with > > the remedy. > > > > Thank you all. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 dear friends before asking for any remedies, the querent must furnish the following without which the astrologer would not be able to give specific remedies: 1. birth details 2. present city and country of living in the past several times we suggested certain simple remedies and the querent writes back saying, i am living in an island, this country or that country where these remedies cannot be done. once one gentleman wrote back saying that he is on a ship for six months and hence suggest something that is workable only in a ship and not on the land. hence if you furnish this beforehand you can save your as well as the astrologer's time. as regards observation by some astrologers that ksy exist only for quacks, i would advise them that just because this does not find mention in the classics does not mean it does not exist. similarly mangal dosha and grahana yoga also do not find place in classics but its negative results are found. any astrologer has his own right and choice to whether believe a yoga or not, whether belive in god or not, BUT HE SHALL NOT CRITICISE OTHER BELIEVERS. i must have written at least 100 messages in the past on ksy in this group alone. i believe that a HALF BLIND CHART is not good for a native. with best wishes and blessings pandit arjun , "bhaskar_jyotish" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear, > > Here the masters will be able to help You if You give them the > details of Your birth, date, time of birth and place. > whenever they will have spare time to do so. > Please do not press for solutions early. Though You may remind them > once in a while. Try to give enquiries for more pressing things > rather than common queries as You would be taking at least one hours > valuable time of theirs, and unless enquiry relates to trouble faced > in life, one should not put it. > > Regards, > one karsevak. > > > > > , "athrey_sharath" > <athrey_sharath@> wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > Please help me. I am Sharath.C.Athrey and i have been told > that > > i have KALA SARPA DOSHA. I am not being successful in whatever i do > > now a days. The dosha is in the tenth house or tenth stage. Please > > help me by telling me what is the remedy for this dosha. I am > really > > very worried as i am finding very difficult to concentrate on my > > studies. Please someone do consider my request and reply m back > with > > the remedy. > > > > Thank you all. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Dear Gaurav Gosh Sir, Thanks for he reply u made. I wil be givin my birth details below and please do help me sir as i am the only son for y parents and i ave to study well and get into a good job which i am unable to do it. I am attaching my horoscope. Please do the neeful sir. Its my humble request. I want u ppl guide me. Thanking you Sharath.C.Athrey --- astrologer_gaurav wrote: > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Mr.Sharath Athreya, > Things like Kal Sarpa Yoga, helps only > quacks...please post ur birth > details.... > Thanq > Wish U all success, > With Humbleness, > > ------------Please dont send me any private > message-------------------- > > > > > , > "athrey_sharath" > <athrey_sharath wrote: > > > > Dear all, > > > > Please help me. I am Sharath.C.Athrey and i > have been told > that > > i have KALA SARPA DOSHA. I am not being successful > in whatever i do > > now a days. The dosha is in the tenth house or > tenth stage. Please > > help me by telling me what is the remedy for this > dosha. I am really > > very worried as i am finding very difficult to > concentrate on my > > studies. Please someone do consider my request and > reply m back with > > the remedy. > > > > Thank you all. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Shree Sharath, Please write your birthdata...dont attach any horoscope...& your queries... Thanq With Humbleness, Wish u all success, --------------please dont send me any private mail------------------- , sharath athrey <athrey_sharath wrote: > > Dear Gaurav Gosh Sir, > > Thanks for he reply u made. I wil be givin my birth > details below and please do help me sir as i am the > only son for y parents and i ave to study well and get > into a good job which i am unable to do it. > > I am attaching my horoscope. Please do the neeful sir. > Its my humble request. I want u ppl guide me. > > Thanking you > > Sharath.C.Athrey > > --- astrologer_gaurav <gg_0202 wrote: > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Mr.Sharath Athreya, > > Things like Kal Sarpa Yoga, helps only > > quacks...please post ur birth > > details.... > > Thanq > > Wish U all success, > > With Humbleness, > > > > ------------Please dont send me any private > > message-------------------- > > > > > > > > > > , > > "athrey_sharath" > > <athrey_sharath@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > Please help me. I am Sharath.C.Athrey and i > > have been told > > that > > > i have KALA SARPA DOSHA. I am not being successful > > in whatever i do > > > now a days. The dosha is in the tenth house or > > tenth stage. Please > > > help me by telling me what is the remedy for this > > dosha. I am really > > > very worried as i am finding very difficult to > > concentrate on my > > > studies. Please someone do consider my request and > > reply m back with > > > the remedy. > > > > > > Thank you all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Dear Sir, My birth date details are as follows: DOB: 28th Feb, 1984 Birth time: 6:20 p.m Birth Day: Tuesday. Birth Place: Bangalore. Sir, I hope the above information is enough and i assume tht this the information tht u asked for. Thanking you Sharath.C.Athrey --- astrologer_gaurav wrote: > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Shree Sharath, > Please write your birthdata...dont attach any > horoscope...& your > queries... > Thanq > With Humbleness, > Wish u all success, > > --------------please dont send me any private > mail------------------- > , sharath > athrey > <athrey_sharath wrote: > > > > Dear Gaurav Gosh Sir, > > > > Thanks for he reply u made. I wil be givin my > birth > > details below and please do help me sir as i am > the > > only son for y parents and i ave to study well and > get > > into a good job which i am unable to do it. > > > > I am attaching my horoscope. Please do the neeful > sir. > > Its my humble request. I want u ppl guide me. > > > > Thanking you > > > > Sharath.C.Athrey > > > > --- astrologer_gaurav <gg_0202 wrote: > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > Dear Mr.Sharath Athreya, > > > Things like Kal Sarpa Yoga, helps only > > > quacks...please post ur birth > > > details.... > > > Thanq > > > Wish U all success, > > > With Humbleness, > > > > > > ------------Please dont send me any private > > > message-------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > "athrey_sharath" > > > <athrey_sharath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > Please help me. I am Sharath.C.Athrey > and i > > > have been told > > > that > > > > i have KALA SARPA DOSHA. I am not being > successful > > > in whatever i do > > > > now a days. The dosha is in the tenth house or > > > tenth stage. Please > > > > help me by telling me what is the remedy for > this > > > dosha. I am really > > > > very worried as i am finding very difficult to > > > concentrate on my > > > > studies. Please someone do consider my request > and > > > reply m back with > > > > the remedy. > > > > > > > > Thank you all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > protection around > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Sharath, Even if i say that i believe in KSY...i will say that you dont have those cultivated "Kal Sarpa Yoga"...All planets r not between Rahu- Ketu axis.... You must have been fooled!!! As per Vimshottari dasa, you are running through Ra-Mars...Mars is afflicted in 3rd ..though a yogakarak...cannot bring too good results..& falls in 6th frm dasanath....while in 12th frm Navamsha Lagna...where it becomes 6th & 11th lord... Dont worry...you have strong Jupiter... Things may turn into a good shape after Saturn moves to leo... Thanq, With Humbleness Wish u all success, . ---------------please dont send me any private mail------------------ , sharath athrey <athrey_sharath wrote: > > > Dear Sir, > > My birth date details are as follows: > > > DOB: 28th Feb, 1984 > Birth time: 6:20 p.m > Birth Day: Tuesday. > Birth Place: Bangalore. > > Sir, I hope the above information is enough and i > assume tht this the information tht u asked for. > > Thanking you > > Sharath.C.Athrey > > > --- astrologer_gaurav <gg_0202 wrote: > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Shree Sharath, > > Please write your birthdata...dont attach any > > horoscope...& your > > queries... > > Thanq > > With Humbleness, > > Wish u all success, > > > > --------------please dont send me any private > > mail------------------- > > , sharath > > athrey > > <athrey_sharath@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gaurav Gosh Sir, > > > > > > Thanks for he reply u made. I wil be givin my > > birth > > > details below and please do help me sir as i am > > the > > > only son for y parents and i ave to study well and > > get > > > into a good job which i am unable to do it. > > > > > > I am attaching my horoscope. Please do the neeful > > sir. > > > Its my humble request. I want u ppl guide me. > > > > > > Thanking you > > > > > > Sharath.C.Athrey > > > > > > --- astrologer_gaurav <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > > Dear Mr.Sharath Athreya, > > > > Things like Kal Sarpa Yoga, helps only > > > > quacks...please post ur birth > > > > details.... > > > > Thanq > > > > Wish U all success, > > > > With Humbleness, > > > > > > > > ------------Please dont send me any private > > > > message-------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > "athrey_sharath" > > > > <athrey_sharath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > Please help me. I am Sharath.C.Athrey > > and i > > > > have been told > > > > that > > > > > i have KALA SARPA DOSHA. I am not being > > successful > > > > in whatever i do > > > > > now a days. The dosha is in the tenth house or > > > > tenth stage. Please > > > > > help me by telling me what is the remedy for > > this > > > > dosha. I am really > > > > > very worried as i am finding very difficult to > > > > concentrate on my > > > > > studies. Please someone do consider my request > > and > > > > reply m back with > > > > > the remedy. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > protection around > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Sharath, please ignore the previous mail....as i entered wrng data... U dont have that so-called "KSY"...as all planets are not hemmed between Ra-Ketu Axis... As per Vimshottari,u r running through Ra-Saturn Dasa..am qt sure...this thing started frm when Saturn entered Cancer...but before that things were not too Good too...saturn becomes the 5th & 6th lord & retro+exalted in 3rd house....While frm Dasanath..its in 6th...however..few good results mite happen as Saturn is posted in Upachaya... Dont worry...u have strong Jupiter May God Bless you, Thanq With Humbleness, Wish u all succes, -----------------please dont send me any private mail---------------- , "astrologer_gaurav" <gg_0202 wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Sharath, > Even if i say that i believe in KSY...i will say that you dont have > those cultivated "Kal Sarpa Yoga"...All planets r not between Rahu- > Ketu axis.... > You must have been fooled!!! > As per Vimshottari dasa, you are running through Ra-Mars...Mars is > afflicted in 3rd ..though a yogakarak...cannot bring too good > results..& falls in 6th frm dasanath....while in 12th frm Navamsha > Lagna...where it becomes 6th & 11th lord... > Dont worry...you have strong Jupiter... > Things may turn into a good shape after Saturn moves to leo... > Thanq, > With Humbleness > Wish u all success, > . > ---------------please dont send me any private mail---------------- -- > > > > > > , sharath athrey > <athrey_sharath@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > My birth date details are as follows: > > > > > > DOB: 28th Feb, 1984 > > Birth time: 6:20 p.m > > Birth Day: Tuesday. > > Birth Place: Bangalore. > > > > Sir, I hope the above information is enough and i > > assume tht this the information tht u asked for. > > > > Thanking you > > > > Sharath.C.Athrey > > > > > > --- astrologer_gaurav <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > Dear Shree Sharath, > > > Please write your birthdata...dont attach any > > > horoscope...& your > > > queries... > > > Thanq > > > With Humbleness, > > > Wish u all success, > > > > > > --------------please dont send me any private > > > mail------------------- > > > , sharath > > > athrey > > > <athrey_sharath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav Gosh Sir, > > > > > > > > Thanks for he reply u made. I wil be givin my > > > birth > > > > details below and please do help me sir as i am > > > the > > > > only son for y parents and i ave to study well and > > > get > > > > into a good job which i am unable to do it. > > > > > > > > I am attaching my horoscope. Please do the neeful > > > sir. > > > > Its my humble request. I want u ppl guide me. > > > > > > > > Thanking you > > > > > > > > Sharath.C.Athrey > > > > > > > > --- astrologer_gaurav <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > > > Dear Mr.Sharath Athreya, > > > > > Things like Kal Sarpa Yoga, helps only > > > > > quacks...please post ur birth > > > > > details.... > > > > > Thanq > > > > > Wish U all success, > > > > > With Humbleness, > > > > > > > > > > ------------Please dont send me any private > > > > > message-------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > "athrey_sharath" > > > > > <athrey_sharath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > Please help me. I am Sharath.C.Athrey > > > and i > > > > > have been told > > > > > that > > > > > > i have KALA SARPA DOSHA. I am not being > > > successful > > > > > in whatever i do > > > > > > now a days. The dosha is in the tenth house or > > > > > tenth stage. Please > > > > > > help me by telling me what is the remedy for > > > this > > > > > dosha. I am really > > > > > > very worried as i am finding very difficult to > > > > > concentrate on my > > > > > > studies. Please someone do consider my request > > > and > > > > > reply m back with > > > > > > the remedy. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 Thank you very much Sir. I am really pleased to hear that i dont have KSY. Thanks once again. It had really got into my mind and i was unable to do any work. Sir i wil be contactin u thru mail if i hav any doubts or queries. Thank you Sharath.C.Athrey --- astrologer_gaurav wrote: > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Sharath, > please ignore the previous mail....as i entered wrng > data... > > U dont have that so-called "KSY"...as all planets > are not hemmed > between Ra-Ketu Axis... > As per Vimshottari,u r running through Ra-Saturn > Dasa..am qt > sure...this thing started frm when Saturn entered > Cancer...but > before that things were not too Good too...saturn > becomes the 5th & > 6th lord & retro+exalted in 3rd house....While frm > Dasanath..its in > 6th...however..few good results mite happen as > Saturn is posted in > Upachaya... > Dont worry...u have strong Jupiter > May God Bless you, > Thanq > With Humbleness, > Wish u all succes, > > -----------------please dont send me any private > mail---------------- > , > "astrologer_gaurav" > <gg_0202 wrote: > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > Dear Sharath, > > Even if i say that i believe in KSY...i will say > that you dont > have > > those cultivated "Kal Sarpa Yoga"...All planets r > not between Rahu- > > Ketu axis.... > > You must have been fooled!!! > > As per Vimshottari dasa, you are running through > Ra-Mars...Mars is > > afflicted in 3rd ..though a yogakarak...cannot > bring too good > > results..& falls in 6th frm dasanath....while in > 12th frm Navamsha > > Lagna...where it becomes 6th & 11th lord... > > Dont worry...you have strong Jupiter... > > Things may turn into a good shape after Saturn > moves to leo... > > Thanq, > > With Humbleness > > Wish u all success, > > . > > ---------------please dont send me any private > mail---------------- > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > , sharath > athrey > > <athrey_sharath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Sir, > > > > > > My birth date details are as follows: > > > > > > > > > DOB: 28th Feb, 1984 > > > Birth time: 6:20 p.m > > > Birth Day: Tuesday. > > > Birth Place: Bangalore. > > > > > > Sir, I hope the above information is enough and > i > > > assume tht this the information tht u asked for. > > > > > > Thanking you > > > > > > Sharath.C.Athrey > > > > > > > > > --- astrologer_gaurav <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > > Dear Shree Sharath, > > > > Please write your birthdata...dont attach any > > > > horoscope...& your > > > > queries... > > > > Thanq > > > > With Humbleness, > > > > Wish u all success, > > > > > > > > --------------please dont send me any private > > > > mail------------------- > > > > , > sharath > > > > athrey > > > > <athrey_sharath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gaurav Gosh Sir, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for he reply u made. I wil be > givin my > > > > birth > > > > > details below and please do help me sir as i > am > > > > the > > > > > only son for y parents and i ave to study > well and > > > > get > > > > > into a good job which i am unable to do it. > > > > > > > > > > I am attaching my horoscope. Please do the > neeful > > > > sir. > > > > > Its my humble request. I want u ppl guide > me. > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you > > > > > > > > > > Sharath.C.Athrey > > > > > > > > > > --- astrologer_gaurav <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > > > > Dear Mr.Sharath Athreya, > > > > > > Things like Kal Sarpa Yoga, helps only > > > > > > quacks...please post ur birth > > > > > > details.... > > > > > > Thanq > > > > > > Wish U all success, > > > > > > With Humbleness, > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------Please dont send me any > private > > > > > > message-------------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > > > > "athrey_sharath" > > > > > > <athrey_sharath@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please help me. I am > Sharath.C.Athrey > > > > and i > > > > > > have been told > > > > > > that > > > > > > > i have KALA SARPA DOSHA. I am not being > > > > successful > > > > > > in whatever i do > > > > > > > now a days. The dosha is in the tenth > house or > > > > > > tenth stage. Please > > > > > > > help me by telling me what is the remedy > for > > > > this > > > > > > dosha. I am really > > > > > > > very worried as i am finding very > difficult to > > > > > > concentrate on my > > > > > > > studies. Please someone do consider my > request > > > > and > > > > > > reply m back with > > > > > > > the remedy. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best > spam > > > > protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > > removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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