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Dear Sourav,

Thanks for adding more input regarding AL and UL.. One doubt, now, in a case like mine there was intention for marriage (though it did not fructify), I think my new UL will be 8 th from the current UL.. If in future when I get married, will the relationship be influenced by the conditions of the rasi chart AL and UL being together, or the new UL which will be 8 th from current UL.

I hope i have been able to put my question across clearly, as i am not able to phrase it correctly.

Regards,

Neelay

Sourav <souravc108 > wrote:

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Ramesh and Neelay,

Namaskar. AL conjoining UL shows that Marriage will be very important for the status of the person and viceversa. Notice that the marakas to UL and AL are same. Hence, when the person's status goes up marriage/relationship goes well and the reverse and to keep marriage well may require a lot of attention and sacrifice. UL in trines to AL usually makes society think them as a good match.

Best wishes,

Sourav

==============================================================

, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" <ramesh.gangaramani wrote:

>

> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

>

> Dear Neelay,

> I think AL and UL being together shows good relationship between partners.

> This is often extended to read as selection of partners by the individuals

> themselves. Involvement of 5H and 5L would strengthen such possibility. LL

> in 7H often shows the native being dominated by spouse and others.

> For a good marriage fasting is recommended on the day represented by lord of

> the 1st UL even if first serious relationship did not fructify.

> You may also want to request Visti to recommend a remedy for Jupiter's

> affliction by Saturn, Rahu and Mars.

> Best Wishes,

> Ramesh

>

>

> _____

>

> [] On

> Behalf Of neelay

> Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:53 AM

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from US to

> India

>

>

>

>

> Dear Ramesh,

>

> I am working fulltime now, so yes income is coming from abroad. I am not

> very career motivated, so I am not sure how my career will be strong.

>

> Regarding desire for love marriage , denial from family, and the person

> being fom different background. You are right on target. My friend was of

> different caste, and yes there were differences in cultural background, but

> caste and the differences was not the primary issue for denial. Anyway, all

> that happened last year. Fasting on Sat would not make sense now, as my

> friend has already moved on with his life, and am not interested in marriage

> for some time.

>

> Thanks once again for taking interest in my chart. however, just for

> learning purpose, i had a question, does AL and UL being togetehr alwasy

> show love marriage. I thought it shows that the person would be submissive

> to the spouse.

>

> Regards,

> Neelay

>

>

>

> "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani wrote:

>

> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

>

> Dear Neelay,

> Thank you for the information. Mars in 10H from Moon and 10L from Moon in

> movable sign are 2 indications of you working or getting income from abroad,

> so that is very likely in future too. Strong career is the feature of the

> chart. Competitive environment will bring out the best. Rahu as AK and Ketu

> associated with AL shows, you will turn spiritual as you move on.

> AL and UL are in the same house, may indicate love marriage, Ketu's

> association may indicate person from different culture. May not be easy to

> get approval from family! If you face issues, fasting on Saturdays, sunrise

> to sunset will help.

> 9L moon is debilitated, gets neecha bhanga through Mars. Wearing a pearl may

> still be a good idea!

> Best Wishes,

> Ramesh

>

>

>

> _____

>

> [] On

> Behalf Of neelay

> Monday, July 17, 2006 12:24 PM

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from US to

> India

>

>

> Dear Ramesh,

>

> Thanks for replying. No, the move has nothing to do with marriage. I am

> single right now and plan to stay that way for few years. Reason for move is

> some personal problems and difficulties. There are factors which are

> compelling me to stay back , but there are equally strong factors for a move

> back to India. That's why the dilemma. Therefore was seeking guidance

> through stars. :-)

>

> I have not worked fulltime in US. I was a student all along doing my BS and

> MS in Computer Science. I worked part time on campus as generally most

> students work.

>

> Yes, there was a change in my career. I did my +2 in commerce and even one

> year of college in India in BCom. Then this radical change of career and I

> came to US to start my undergraduate studies in Comp Sc from scratch.

>

> hope my feedback has been clear enough.

>

> Regards,

> Neelay

>

> "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani wrote:

>

> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

>

> Dear Neelay,

> Venus MD is due to start a few days. Venus is 7L and 12L. 7H shows frequent

> travels whereas 12h shows long distance travels and relocation. Venus is

> also placed in 8H of transformation. It is placed in trines to AL and hence

> should give you good results. Jupiter is transiting through 12H which is 9th

> from AL, this transit Jupiter is also aspecting AL and hence change should

> be smooth and good.

> Can you please tell us reason for this move? May be able to learn something

> from your response. Venus natural karka for marriage, is 7L and also DK, D9

> lagna lord, wonder if the move has anything to do with marriage?

> 10L from lagna as well as Moon is exalted Sun placed in movable sign, so you

> must have started working in foreign country. You should have a good career

> ahead of you. I am also curious to know the your career field. There are

> many planets having influence. Must have many changes in type of career over

> time. Just wondering if Jupiter, Mercury and Moon have greater influence for

> now. Jupiter stands for Finance, legal, teaching. Mercury is for trading

> and finance, Moon shows social contact, dealing with people.

> Best Wishes,

> Ramesh

>

>

>

> _____

>

> [] On

> Behalf Of neelay

> Friday, July 07, 2006 12:25 PM

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from US to India

>

>

>

> Best Wishes

> Neelay

> _____

>

> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great

> <http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http://us.rd./ev

> t=39666/*http://messenger.> rates starting at 1¢/min.

>

>

>

>

> Best Wishes

> Neelay

> _____

>

>

> Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new

> <http://us.rd./evt=42241/*http://advision.webevents./handr

> aisers> Mail Beta.

>

>

>

>

> Best Wishes

> Neelay

>

>

> _____

>

> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great

> <http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http://us.rd./ev

> t=39666/*http://messenger.> rates starting at 1¢/min.

>

 

 

 

 

Best Wishes

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Dear Sourav,

Thanks for adding more input regarding AL and UL.. One doubt, now, in a case like mine there was intention for marriage (though it did not fructify), I think my new UL will be 8 th from the current UL.. If in future when I get married, will the relationship be influenced by the conditions of the rasi chart AL and UL being together, or the new UL which will be 8 th from current UL.

I hope i have been able to put my question across clearly, as i am not able to phrase it correctly.

Regards,

Neelay

Sourav <souravc108 > wrote:

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Ramesh and Neelay,

Namaskar. AL conjoining UL shows that Marriage will be very important for the status of the person and viceversa. Notice that the marakas to UL and AL are same. Hence, when the person's status goes up marriage/relationship goes well and the reverse and to keep marriage well may require a lot of attention and sacrifice. UL in trines to AL usually makes society think them as a good match.

Best wishes,

Sourav

==============================================================

, "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" <ramesh.gangaramani wrote:

>

> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

>

> Dear Neelay,

> I think AL and UL being together shows good relationship between partners.

> This is often extended to read as selection of partners by the individuals

> themselves. Involvement of 5H and 5L would strengthen such possibility. LL

> in 7H often shows the native being dominated by spouse and others.

> For a good marriage fasting is recommended on the day represented by lord of

> the 1st UL even if first serious relationship did not fructify.

> You may also want to request Visti to recommend a remedy for Jupiter's

> affliction by Saturn, Rahu and Mars.

> Best Wishes,

> Ramesh

>

>

> _____

>

> [] On

> Behalf Of neelay

> Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:53 AM

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from US to

> India

>

>

>

>

> Dear Ramesh,

>

> I am working fulltime now, so yes income is coming from abroad. I am not

> very career motivated, so I am not sure how my career will be strong.

>

> Regarding desire for love marriage , denial from family, and the person

> being fom different background. You are right on target. My friend was of

> different caste, and yes there were differences in cultural background, but

> caste and the differences was not the primary issue for denial. Anyway, all

> that happened last year. Fasting on Sat would not make sense now, as my

> friend has already moved on with his life, and am not interested in marriage

> for some time.

>

> Thanks once again for taking interest in my chart. however, just for

> learning purpose, i had a question, does AL and UL being togetehr alwasy

> show love marriage. I thought it shows that the person would be submissive

> to the spouse.

>

> Regards,

> Neelay

>

>

>

> "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani wrote:

>

> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

>

> Dear Neelay,

> Thank you for the information. Mars in 10H from Moon and 10L from Moon in

> movable sign are 2 indications of you working or getting income from abroad,

> so that is very likely in future too. Strong career is the feature of the

> chart. Competitive environment will bring out the best. Rahu as AK and Ketu

> associated with AL shows, you will turn spiritual as you move on.

> AL and UL are in the same house, may indicate love marriage, Ketu's

> association may indicate person from different culture. May not be easy to

> get approval from family! If you face issues, fasting on Saturdays, sunrise

> to sunset will help.

> 9L moon is debilitated, gets neecha bhanga through Mars. Wearing a pearl may

> still be a good idea!

> Best Wishes,

> Ramesh

>

>

>

> _____

>

> [] On

> Behalf Of neelay

> Monday, July 17, 2006 12:24 PM

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from US to

> India

>

>

> Dear Ramesh,

>

> Thanks for replying. No, the move has nothing to do with marriage. I am

> single right now and plan to stay that way for few years. Reason for move is

> some personal problems and difficulties. There are factors which are

> compelling me to stay back , but there are equally strong factors for a move

> back to India. That's why the dilemma. Therefore was seeking guidance

> through stars. :-)

>

> I have not worked fulltime in US. I was a student all along doing my BS and

> MS in Computer Science. I worked part time on campus as generally most

> students work.

>

> Yes, there was a change in my career. I did my +2 in commerce and even one

> year of college in India in BCom. Then this radical change of career and I

> came to US to start my undergraduate studies in Comp Sc from scratch.

>

> hope my feedback has been clear enough.

>

> Regards,

> Neelay

>

> "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani wrote:

>

> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

>

> Dear Neelay,

> Venus MD is due to start a few days. Venus is 7L and 12L. 7H shows frequent

> travels whereas 12h shows long distance travels and relocation. Venus is

> also placed in 8H of transformation. It is placed in trines to AL and hence

> should give you good results. Jupiter is transiting through 12H which is 9th

> from AL, this transit Jupiter is also aspecting AL and hence change should

> be smooth and good.

> Can you please tell us reason for this move? May be able to learn something

> from your response. Venus natural karka for marriage, is 7L and also DK, D9

> lagna lord, wonder if the move has anything to do with marriage?

> 10L from lagna as well as Moon is exalted Sun placed in movable sign, so you

> must have started working in foreign country. You should have a good career

> ahead of you. I am also curious to know the your career field. There are

> many planets having influence. Must have many changes in type of career over

> time. Just wondering if Jupiter, Mercury and Moon have greater influence for

> now. Jupiter stands for Finance, legal, teaching. Mercury is for trading

> and finance, Moon shows social contact, dealing with people.

> Best Wishes,

> Ramesh

>

>

>

> _____

>

> [] On

> Behalf Of neelay

> Friday, July 07, 2006 12:25 PM

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from US to India

>

>

>

> Best Wishes

> Neelay

> _____

>

> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great

> <http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http://us.rd./ev

> t=39666/*http://messenger.> rates starting at 1¢/min.

>

>

>

>

> Best Wishes

> Neelay

> _____

>

>

> Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new

> <http://us.rd./evt=42241/*http://advision.webevents./handr

> aisers> Mail Beta.

>

>

>

>

> Best Wishes

> Neelay

>

>

> _____

>

> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great

> <http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http://us.rd./ev

> t=39666/*http://messenger.> rates starting at 1¢/min.

>

 

 

 

 

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|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Neelay,

 

namaskar. Please reconsider and not be quick in

making decisions like new UL. I think now-a-days many students are

quickly counting affairs and counting UL's. UL is significant only for

marriage (ceremonial and consummated) AND for living together, sharing,

compromising, sacrificing etc. for atleast 1 year or so (typically). An

affair, even though very fond, is NOT UL it it does not satisfy the

above considerations. Most affairs fall in A7 category or relate to 5th

house/lord (emotions). Please read my comments in the Sohamsa list

within last couple of weeks, directed to Sundeep on this topic. I will

be happy to clarify/discuss after your reading.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

========================================================================\

==================================

, neelay <neelay2006 wrote:

>

> Dear Sourav,

>

> Thanks for adding more input regarding AL and UL.. One doubt, now, in

a case like mine there was intention for marriage (though it did not

fructify), I think my new UL will be 8 th from the current UL.. If in

future when I get married, will the relationship be influenced by the

conditions of the rasi chart AL and UL being together, or the new UL

which will be 8 th from current UL.

>

> I hope i have been able to put my question across clearly, as i am not

able to phrase it correctly.

>

> Regards,

> Neelay

>

>

> Sourav souravc108 wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> Dear Ramesh and Neelay,

> Namaskar. AL conjoining UL shows that Marriage will be very important

for the status of the person and viceversa. Notice that the marakas to

UL and AL are same. Hence, when the person's status goes up

marriage/relationship goes well and the reverse and to keep marriage

well may require a lot of attention and sacrifice. UL in trines to AL

usually makes society think them as a good match.

> Best wishes,

> Sourav

> ==============================================================

>

>

> , "Ramesh F. Gangaramani"

ramesh.gangaramani@ wrote:

> >

> > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> >

> > Dear Neelay,

> > I think AL and UL being together shows good relationship between

partners.

> > This is often extended to read as selection of partners by the

individuals

> > themselves. Involvement of 5H and 5L would strengthen such

possibility. LL

> > in 7H often shows the native being dominated by spouse and others.

> > For a good marriage fasting is recommended on the day represented by

lord of

> > the 1st UL even if first serious relationship did not fructify.

> > You may also want to request Visti to recommend a remedy for

Jupiter's

> > affliction by Saturn, Rahu and Mars.

> > Best Wishes,

> > Ramesh

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

[] On

> > Behalf Of neelay

> > Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:53 AM

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from

US to

> > India

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Ramesh,

> >

> > I am working fulltime now, so yes income is coming from abroad. I am

not

> > very career motivated, so I am not sure how my career will be

strong.

> >

> > Regarding desire for love marriage , denial from family, and the

person

> > being fom different background. You are right on target. My friend

was of

> > different caste, and yes there were differences in cultural

background, but

> > caste and the differences was not the primary issue for denial.

Anyway, all

> > that happened last year. Fasting on Sat would not make sense now, as

my

> > friend has already moved on with his life, and am not interested in

marriage

> > for some time.

> >

> > Thanks once again for taking interest in my chart. however, just for

> > learning purpose, i had a question, does AL and UL being togetehr

alwasy

> > show love marriage. I thought it shows that the person would be

submissive

> > to the spouse.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Neelay

> >

> >

> >

> > "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani@ wrote:

> >

> > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> >

> > Dear Neelay,

> > Thank you for the information. Mars in 10H from Moon and 10L from

Moon in

> > movable sign are 2 indications of you working or getting income from

abroad,

> > so that is very likely in future too. Strong career is the feature

of the

> > chart. Competitive environment will bring out the best. Rahu as AK

and Ketu

> > associated with AL shows, you will turn spiritual as you move on.

> > AL and UL are in the same house, may indicate love marriage, Ketu's

> > association may indicate person from different culture. May not be

easy to

> > get approval from family! If you face issues, fasting on Saturdays,

sunrise

> > to sunset will help.

> > 9L moon is debilitated, gets neecha bhanga through Mars. Wearing a

pearl may

> > still be a good idea!

> > Best Wishes,

> > Ramesh

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

[] On

> > Behalf Of neelay

> > Monday, July 17, 2006 12:24 PM

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from

US to

> > India

> >

> >

> > Dear Ramesh,

> >

> > Thanks for replying. No, the move has nothing to do with marriage. I

am

> > single right now and plan to stay that way for few years. Reason for

move is

> > some personal problems and difficulties. There are factors which are

> > compelling me to stay back , but there are equally strong factors

for a move

> > back to India. That's why the dilemma. Therefore was seeking

guidance

> > through stars. :-)

> >

> > I have not worked fulltime in US. I was a student all along doing my

BS and

> > MS in Computer Science. I worked part time on campus as generally

most

> > students work.

> >

> > Yes, there was a change in my career. I did my +2 in commerce and

even one

> > year of college in India in BCom. Then this radical change of career

and I

> > came to US to start my undergraduate studies in Comp Sc from

scratch.

> >

> > hope my feedback has been clear enough.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Neelay

> >

> > "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani@ wrote:

> >

> > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> >

> > Dear Neelay,

> > Venus MD is due to start a few days. Venus is 7L and 12L. 7H shows

frequent

> > travels whereas 12h shows long distance travels and relocation.

Venus is

> > also placed in 8H of transformation. It is placed in trines to AL

and hence

> > should give you good results. Jupiter is transiting through 12H

which is 9th

> > from AL, this transit Jupiter is also aspecting AL and hence change

should

> > be smooth and good.

> > Can you please tell us reason for this move? May be able to learn

something

> > from your response. Venus natural karka for marriage, is 7L and also

DK, D9

> > lagna lord, wonder if the move has anything to do with marriage?

> > 10L from lagna as well as Moon is exalted Sun placed in movable

sign, so you

> > must have started working in foreign country. You should have a good

career

> > ahead of you. I am also curious to know the your career field. There

are

> > many planets having influence. Must have many changes in type of

career over

> > time. Just wondering if Jupiter, Mercury and Moon have greater

influence for

> > now. Jupiter stands for Finance, legal, teaching. Mercury is for

trading

> > and finance, Moon shows social contact, dealing with people.

> > Best Wishes,

> > Ramesh

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

[] On

> > Behalf Of neelay

> > Friday, July 07, 2006 12:25 PM

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from US

to India

> >

> >

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Neelay

> > _____

> >

> > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great

> >

<http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http://us.rd..co\

m/ev

> > t=39666/*http://messenger.> rates starting at 1¢/min.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Neelay

> > _____

> >

> >

> > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new

> >

<http://us.rd./evt=42241/*http://advision.webevents./h\

andr

> > aisers> Mail Beta.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Neelay

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great

> >

<http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http://us.rd..co\

m/ev

> > t=39666/*http://messenger.> rates starting at 1¢/min.

> >

Best Wishes

> Neelay

>

>

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Dear Sourav,

If I can ask you a small thing here......

Sanjayji spoke in one of the Atri SJC classes about what the definition of a marriage is. He said for Kali Yuga this definition has been given by Sri Krishna and according to it if a man and woman stay together in mind (not body), for a period of 1 year, then it is to be considered as a marriage.

If I remember right, he said that ceremony part was not important. Even if the cermony was not there, it is still a marriage.

After reading your mails about UL, I am a little confused. In Supriti's chart also you took 1st UL, although she herself thinks it is the 2nd. It would be nice if you (and of course, other members) could clarify further why a marriage has to be ceremonial and consummated. Do you think that the sharing, compromising, and sacrificing, cannot come otherwise in a relationship?

Regards,

Divya

Sourav <souravc108 > wrote:

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Neelay,

namaskar. Please reconsider and not be quick in making decisions like new UL. I think now-a-days many students are quickly counting affairs and counting UL's. UL is significant only for marriage (ceremonial and consummated) AND for living together, sharing, compromising, sacrificing etc. for atleast 1 year or so (typically). An affair, even though very fond, is NOT UL it it does not satisfy the above considerations. Most affairs fall in A7 category or relate to 5th house/lord (emotions). Please read my comments in the Sohamsa list within last couple of weeks, directed to Sundeep on this topic. I will be happy to clarify/discuss after your reading.

Best wishes,

Sourav

==========================================================================================================

, neelay <neelay2006 wrote:

>

> Dear Sourav,

>

> Thanks for adding more input regarding AL and UL.. One doubt, now, in a case like mine there was intention for marriage (though it did not fructify), I think my new UL will be 8 th from the current UL.. If in future when I get married, will the relationship be influenced by the conditions of the rasi chart AL and UL being together, or the new UL which will be 8 th from current UL.

>

> I hope i have been able to put my question across clearly, as i am not able to phrase it correctly.

>

> Regards,

> Neelay

>

>

> Sourav souravc108 wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> Dear Ramesh and Neelay,

> Namaskar. AL conjoining UL shows that Marriage will be very important for the status of the person and viceversa. Notice that the marakas to UL and AL are same. Hence, when the person's status goes up marriage/relationship goes well and the reverse and to keep marriage well may require a lot of attention and sacrifice. UL in trines to AL usually makes society think them as a good match.

> Best wishes,

> Sourav

> ==============================================================

>

>

> , "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani@ wrote:

> >

> > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> >

> > Dear Neelay,

> > I think AL and UL being together shows good relationship between partners.

> > This is often extended to read as selection of partners by the individuals

> > themselves. Involvement of 5H and 5L would strengthen such possibility. LL

> > in 7H often shows the native being dominated by spouse and others.

> > For a good marriage fasting is recommended on the day represented by lord of

> > the 1st UL even if first serious relationship did not fructify.

> > You may also want to request Visti to recommend a remedy for Jupiter's

> > affliction by Saturn, Rahu and Mars.

> > Best Wishes,

> > Ramesh

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > [] On

> > Behalf Of neelay

> > Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:53 AM

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from US to

> > India

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Ramesh,

> >

> > I am working fulltime now, so yes income is coming from abroad. I am not

> > very career motivated, so I am not sure how my career will be strong.

> >

> > Regarding desire for love marriage , denial from family, and the person

> > being fom different background. You are right on target. My friend was of

> > different caste, and yes there were differences in cultural background, but

> > caste and the differences was not the primary issue for denial. Anyway, all

> > that happened last year. Fasting on Sat would not make sense now, as my

> > friend has already moved on with his life, and am not interested in marriage

> > for some time.

> >

> > Thanks once again for taking interest in my chart. however, just for

> > learning purpose, i had a question, does AL and UL being togetehr alwasy

> > show love marriage. I thought it shows that the person would be submissive

> > to the spouse.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Neelay

> >

> >

> >

> > "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani@ wrote:

> >

> > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> >

> > Dear Neelay,

> > Thank you for the information. Mars in 10H from Moon and 10L from Moon in

> > movable sign are 2 indications of you working or getting income from abroad,

> > so that is very likely in future too. Strong career is the feature of the

> > chart. Competitive environment will bring out the best. Rahu as AK and Ketu

> > associated with AL shows, you will turn spiritual as you move on.

> > AL and UL are in the same house, may indicate love marriage, Ketu's

> > association may indicate person from different culture. May not be easy to

> > get approval from family! If you face issues, fasting on Saturdays, sunrise

> > to sunset will help.

> > 9L moon is debilitated, gets neecha bhanga through Mars. Wearing a pearl may

> > still be a good idea!

> > Best Wishes,

> > Ramesh

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > [] On

> > Behalf Of neelay

> > Monday, July 17, 2006 12:24 PM

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from US to

> > India

> >

> >

> > Dear Ramesh,

> >

> > Thanks for replying. No, the move has nothing to do with marriage. I am

> > single right now and plan to stay that way for few years. Reason for move is

> > some personal problems and difficulties. There are factors which are

> > compelling me to stay back , but there are equally strong factors for a move

> > back to India. That's why the dilemma. Therefore was seeking guidance

> > through stars. :-)

> >

> > I have not worked fulltime in US. I was a student all along doing my BS and

> > MS in Computer Science. I worked part time on campus as generally most

> > students work.

> >

> > Yes, there was a change in my career. I did my +2 in commerce and even one

> > year of college in India in BCom. Then this radical change of career and I

> > came to US to start my undergraduate studies in Comp Sc from scratch.

> >

> > hope my feedback has been clear enough.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Neelay

> >

> > "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani@ wrote:

> >

> > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> >

> > Dear Neelay,

> > Venus MD is due to start a few days. Venus is 7L and 12L. 7H shows frequent

> > travels whereas 12h shows long distance travels and relocation. Venus is

> > also placed in 8H of transformation. It is placed in trines to AL and hence

> > should give you good results. Jupiter is transiting through 12H which is 9th

> > from AL, this transit Jupiter is also aspecting AL and hence change should

> > be smooth and good.

> > Can you please tell us reason for this move? May be able to learn something

> > from your response. Venus natural karka for marriage, is 7L and also DK, D9

> > lagna lord, wonder if the move has anything to do with marriage?

> > 10L from lagna as well as Moon is exalted Sun placed in movable sign, so you

> > must have started working in foreign country. You should have a good career

> > ahead of you. I am also curious to know the your career field. There are

> > many planets having influence. Must have many changes in type of career over

> > time. Just wondering if Jupiter, Mercury and Moon have greater influence for

> > now. Jupiter stands for Finance, legal, teaching. Mercury is for trading

> > and finance, Moon shows social contact, dealing with people.

> > Best Wishes,

> > Ramesh

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > [] On

> > Behalf Of neelay

> > Friday, July 07, 2006 12:25 PM

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from US to India

> >

> >

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Neelay

> > _____

> >

> > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great

> > <http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http://us.rd./ev

> > t=39666/*http://messenger.> rates starting at 1¢/min.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Neelay

> > _____

> >

> >

> > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new

> > <http://us.rd./evt=42241/*http://advision.webevents./handr

> > aisers> Mail Beta.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Neelay

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great

> > <http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http://us.rd./ev

> > t=39666/*http://messenger.> rates starting at 1¢/min.

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Best Wishes

> Neelay

>

>

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Dear Divya,

 

Namaskar. Comments below.

 

Best wishes,

 

Sourav

 

================================================================

, Divya <touchbase_divya wrote:

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Sourav,

>

> If I can ask you a small thing here......

>

> Sanjayji spoke in one of the Atri SJC classes about what the

definition of a marriage is. He said for Kali Yuga this definition has

been given by Sri Krishna and according to it if a man and woman stay

together in mind (not body), for a period of 1 year, then it is to be

considered as a marriage.

>

> If I remember right, he said that ceremony part was not important.

Even if the cermony was not there, it is still a marriage.

 

[sourav]: Please note my message in Sohamsa. I didn't marriage ceremony

is necessary. Yet where there is marriage ceremony there is a UL ( or

else how do we change UL by Kumbha Vivaha)

 

 

>

> After reading your mails about UL, I am a little confused. In

Supriti's chart also you took 1st UL, although she herself thinks it is

the 2nd.

 

[sourav]: I am not sure. My dasha analysis is showing Navamsa 7H as

husband's lagna and affliction of the 5th house in Navamsa as the broken

affair. If the first affair is 'as good as marriage' the dasa will show

break of this marriage. 8th from 7th house. Without being unnecessarily

curious, I will stick to what I am seeing based on given information.

 

It would be nice if you (and of course, other members) could clarify

further why a marriage has to be ceremonial and consummated. Do you

think that the sharing, compromising, and sacrificing, cannot come

otherwise in a relationship?

 

[sourav]: So then every kind of sharing compromising should come under

UL ? I think I put AND. I meant OR. my messages to Sundeep in Sohamsa is

clearer. In any case these are subjective calls and need to be verified

based on facts and dashas.

 

 

>

>

> Regards,

> Divya

>

>

>

> Sourav souravc108 wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> Dear Neelay,

> namaskar. Please reconsider and not be quick in making decisions like

new UL. I think now-a-days many students are quickly counting affairs

and counting UL's. UL is significant only for marriage (ceremonial and

consummated) AND for living together, sharing, compromising, sacrificing

etc. for atleast 1 year or so (typically). An affair, even though very

fond, is NOT UL it it does not satisfy the above considerations. Most

affairs fall in A7 category or relate to 5th house/lord (emotions).

Please read my comments in the Sohamsa list within last couple of weeks,

directed to Sundeep on this topic. I will be happy to clarify/discuss

after your reading.

> Best wishes,

> Sourav

>

========================================================================\

==================================

> , neelay neelay2006@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sourav,

> >

> > Thanks for adding more input regarding AL and UL.. One doubt, now,

in a case like mine there was intention for marriage (though it did not

fructify), I think my new UL will be 8 th from the current UL.. If in

future when I get married, will the relationship be influenced by the

conditions of the rasi chart AL and UL being together, or the new UL

which will be 8 th from current UL.

> >

> > I hope i have been able to put my question across clearly, as i am

not able to phrase it correctly.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Neelay

> >

> >

> > Sourav souravc108@ wrote:

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > Dear Ramesh and Neelay,

> > Namaskar. AL conjoining UL shows that Marriage will be very

important for the status of the person and viceversa. Notice that the

marakas to UL and AL are same. Hence, when the person's status goes up

marriage/relationship goes well and the reverse and to keep marriage

well may require a lot of attention and sacrifice. UL in trines to AL

usually makes society think them as a good match.

> > Best wishes,

> > Sourav

> > ==============================================================

> >

> >

> > , "Ramesh F. Gangaramani"

ramesh.gangaramani@ wrote:

> > >

> > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> > >

> > > Dear Neelay,

> > > I think AL and UL being together shows good relationship between

partners.

> > > This is often extended to read as selection of partners by the

individuals

> > > themselves. Involvement of 5H and 5L would strengthen such

possibility. LL

> > > in 7H often shows the native being dominated by spouse and others.

> > > For a good marriage fasting is recommended on the day represented

by lord of

> > > the 1st UL even if first serious relationship did not fructify.

> > > You may also want to request Visti to recommend a remedy for

Jupiter's

> > > affliction by Saturn, Rahu and Mars.

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

[] On

> > > Behalf Of neelay

> > > Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:53 AM

> > >

> > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move

from US to

> > > India

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > >

> > > I am working fulltime now, so yes income is coming from abroad. I

am not

> > > very career motivated, so I am not sure how my career will be

strong.

> > >

> > > Regarding desire for love marriage , denial from family, and the

person

> > > being fom different background. You are right on target. My friend

was of

> > > different caste, and yes there were differences in cultural

background, but

> > > caste and the differences was not the primary issue for denial.

Anyway, all

> > > that happened last year. Fasting on Sat would not make sense now,

as my

> > > friend has already moved on with his life, and am not interested

in marriage

> > > for some time.

> > >

> > > Thanks once again for taking interest in my chart. however, just

for

> > > learning purpose, i had a question, does AL and UL being togetehr

alwasy

> > > show love marriage. I thought it shows that the person would be

submissive

> > > to the spouse.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Neelay

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani@ wrote:

> > >

> > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> > >

> > > Dear Neelay,

> > > Thank you for the information. Mars in 10H from Moon and 10L from

Moon in

> > > movable sign are 2 indications of you working or getting income

from abroad,

> > > so that is very likely in future too. Strong career is the feature

of the

> > > chart. Competitive environment will bring out the best. Rahu as AK

and Ketu

> > > associated with AL shows, you will turn spiritual as you move on.

> > > AL and UL are in the same house, may indicate love marriage,

Ketu's

> > > association may indicate person from different culture. May not be

easy to

> > > get approval from family! If you face issues, fasting on

Saturdays, sunrise

> > > to sunset will help.

> > > 9L moon is debilitated, gets neecha bhanga through Mars. Wearing a

pearl may

> > > still be a good idea!

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

[] On

> > > Behalf Of neelay

> > > Monday, July 17, 2006 12:24 PM

> > >

> > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move

from US to

> > > India

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > >

> > > Thanks for replying. No, the move has nothing to do with marriage.

I am

> > > single right now and plan to stay that way for few years. Reason

for move is

> > > some personal problems and difficulties. There are factors which

are

> > > compelling me to stay back , but there are equally strong factors

for a move

> > > back to India. That's why the dilemma. Therefore was seeking

guidance

> > > through stars. :-)

> > >

> > > I have not worked fulltime in US. I was a student all along doing

my BS and

> > > MS in Computer Science. I worked part time on campus as generally

most

> > > students work.

> > >

> > > Yes, there was a change in my career. I did my +2 in commerce and

even one

> > > year of college in India in BCom. Then this radical change of

career and I

> > > came to US to start my undergraduate studies in Comp Sc from

scratch.

> > >

> > > hope my feedback has been clear enough.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Neelay

> > >

> > > "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani@ wrote:

> > >

> > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> > >

> > > Dear Neelay,

> > > Venus MD is due to start a few days. Venus is 7L and 12L. 7H shows

frequent

> > > travels whereas 12h shows long distance travels and relocation.

Venus is

> > > also placed in 8H of transformation. It is placed in trines to AL

and hence

> > > should give you good results. Jupiter is transiting through 12H

which is 9th

> > > from AL, this transit Jupiter is also aspecting AL and hence

change should

> > > be smooth and good.

> > > Can you please tell us reason for this move? May be able to learn

something

> > > from your response. Venus natural karka for marriage, is 7L and

also DK, D9

> > > lagna lord, wonder if the move has anything to do with marriage?

> > > 10L from lagna as well as Moon is exalted Sun placed in movable

sign, so you

> > > must have started working in foreign country. You should have a

good career

> > > ahead of you. I am also curious to know the your career field.

There are

> > > many planets having influence. Must have many changes in type of

career over

> > > time. Just wondering if Jupiter, Mercury and Moon have greater

influence for

> > > now. Jupiter stands for Finance, legal, teaching. Mercury is for

trading

> > > and finance, Moon shows social contact, dealing with people.

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

[] On

> > > Behalf Of neelay

> > > Friday, July 07, 2006 12:25 PM

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from

US to India

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Neelay

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls.

Great

> > >

<http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http://us.rd..co\

m/ev

> > > t=39666/*http://messenger.> rates starting at 1¢/min.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Neelay

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new

> > >

<http://us.rd./evt=42241/*http://advision.webevents./h\

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> > > aisers> Mail Beta.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Best Wishes

> > > Neelay

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls.

Great

> > >

<http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http://us.rd..co\

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> > > t=39666/*http://messenger.> rates starting at 1¢/min.

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Neelay

> >

> >

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Dear Sourav,

Thanks for your reply. I read the mail you wrote to Sundeep in Sohamsa. And I now understand better what you have written.

But then, should we take into consideration this Lord Krishna's definition of marriage for Kali Yuga?

Regards,

Divya

 

Sourav <souravc108 > wrote:

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Divya,

Namaskar. Comments below.

Best wishes,

Sourav

================================================================

, Divya <touchbase_divya wrote:

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Sourav,

>

> If I can ask you a small thing here......

>

> Sanjayji spoke in one of the Atri SJC classes about what the definition of a marriage is. He said for Kali Yuga this definition has been given by Sri Krishna and according to it if a man and woman stay together in mind (not body), for a period of 1 year, then it is to be considered as a marriage.

>

> If I remember right, he said that ceremony part was not important. Even if the cermony was not there, it is still a marriage.

[sourav]: Please note my message in Sohamsa. I didn't marriage ceremony is necessary. Yet where there is marriage ceremony there is a UL ( or else how do we change UL by Kumbha Vivaha)

>

> After reading your mails about UL, I am a little confused. In Supriti's chart also you took 1st UL, although she herself thinks it is the 2nd.

[sourav]: I am not sure. My dasha analysis is showing Navamsa 7H as husband's lagna and affliction of the 5th house in Navamsa as the broken affair. If the first affair is 'as good as marriage' the dasa will show break of this marriage. 8th from 7th house. Without being unnecessarily curious, I will stick to what I am seeing based on given information.

It would be nice if you (and of course, other members) could clarify further why a marriage has to be ceremonial and consummated. Do you think that the sharing, compromising, and sacrificing, cannot come otherwise in a relationship?

[sourav]: So then every kind of sharing compromising should come under UL ? I think I put AND. I meant OR. my messages to Sundeep in Sohamsa is clearer. In any case these are subjective calls and need to be verified based on facts and dashas.

>

>

> Regards,

> Divya

>

>

>

> Sourav souravc108 wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> Dear Neelay,

> namaskar. Please reconsider and not be quick in making decisions like new UL. I think now-a-days many students are quickly counting affairs and counting UL's. UL is significant only for marriage (ceremonial and consummated) AND for living together, sharing, compromising, sacrificing etc. for atleast 1 year or so (typically). An affair, even though very fond, is NOT UL it it does not satisfy the above considerations. Most affairs fall in A7 category or relate to 5th house/lord (emotions). Please read my comments in the Sohamsa list within last couple of weeks, directed to Sundeep on this topic. I will be happy to clarify/discuss after your reading.

> Best wishes,

> Sourav

> ==========================================================================================================

> , neelay neelay2006@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sourav,

> >

> > Thanks for adding more input regarding AL and UL.. One doubt, now, in a case like mine there was intention for marriage (though it did not fructify), I think my new UL will be 8 th from the current UL.. If in future when I get married, will the relationship be influenced by the conditions of the rasi chart AL and UL being together, or the new UL which will be 8 th from current UL.

> >

> > I hope i have been able to put my question across clearly, as i am not able to phrase it correctly.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Neelay

> >

> >

> > Sourav souravc108@ wrote:

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> > Dear Ramesh and Neelay,

> > Namaskar. AL conjoining UL shows that Marriage will be very important for the status of the person and viceversa. Notice that the marakas to UL and AL are same. Hence, when the person's status goes up marriage/relationship goes well and the reverse and to keep marriage well may require a lot of attention and sacrifice. UL in trines to AL usually makes society think them as a good match.

> > Best wishes,

> > Sourav

> > ==============================================================

> >

> >

> > , "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani@ wrote:

> > >

> > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> > >

> > > Dear Neelay,

> > > I think AL and UL being together shows good relationship between partners.

> > > This is often extended to read as selection of partners by the individuals

> > > themselves. Involvement of 5H and 5L would strengthen such possibility. LL

> > > in 7H often shows the native being dominated by spouse and others.

> > > For a good marriage fasting is recommended on the day represented by lord of

> > > the 1st UL even if first serious relationship did not fructify.

> > > You may also want to request Visti to recommend a remedy for Jupiter's

> > > affliction by Saturn, Rahu and Mars.

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > [] On

> > > Behalf Of neelay

> > > Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:53 AM

> > >

> > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from US to

> > > India

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > >

> > > I am working fulltime now, so yes income is coming from abroad. I am not

> > > very career motivated, so I am not sure how my career will be strong.

> > >

> > > Regarding desire for love marriage , denial from family, and the person

> > > being fom different background. You are right on target. My friend was of

> > > different caste, and yes there were differences in cultural background, but

> > > caste and the differences was not the primary issue for denial. Anyway, all

> > > that happened last year. Fasting on Sat would not make sense now, as my

> > > friend has already moved on with his life, and am not interested in marriage

> > > for some time.

> > >

> > > Thanks once again for taking interest in my chart. however, just for

> > > learning purpose, i had a question, does AL and UL being togetehr alwasy

> > > show love marriage. I thought it shows that the person would be submissive

> > > to the spouse.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Neelay

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani@ wrote:

> > >

> > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> > >

> > > Dear Neelay,

> > > Thank you for the information. Mars in 10H from Moon and 10L from Moon in

> > > movable sign are 2 indications of you working or getting income from abroad,

> > > so that is very likely in future too. Strong career is the feature of the

> > > chart. Competitive environment will bring out the best. Rahu as AK and Ketu

> > > associated with AL shows, you will turn spiritual as you move on.

> > > AL and UL are in the same house, may indicate love marriage, Ketu's

> > > association may indicate person from different culture. May not be easy to

> > > get approval from family! If you face issues, fasting on Saturdays, sunrise

> > > to sunset will help.

> > > 9L moon is debilitated, gets neecha bhanga through Mars. Wearing a pearl may

> > > still be a good idea!

> > > Best Wishes,

> > > Ramesh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > [] On

> > > Behalf Of neelay

> > > Monday, July 17, 2006 12:24 PM

> > >

> > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from US to

> > > India

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Ramesh,

> > >

> > > Thanks for replying. No, the move has nothing to do with marriage. I am

> > > single right now and plan to stay that way for few years. Reason for move is

> > > some personal problems and difficulties. There are factors which are

> > > compelling me to stay back , but there are equally strong factors for a move

> > > back to India. That's why the dilemma. Therefore was seeking guidance

> > > through stars. :-)

> > >

> > > I have not worked fulltime in US. I was a student all along doing my BS and

> > > MS in Computer Science. I worked part time on campus as generally most

> > > students work.

> > >

> > > Yes, there was a change in my career. I did my +2 in commerce and even one

> > > year of college in India in BCom. Then this radical change of career and I

> > > came to US to start my undergraduate studies in Comp Sc from scratch.

> > >

> > > hope my feedback has been clear enough.

> > >

> > > Regards,

> > > Neelay

> > >

> > > "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani@ wrote:

> > >

> > > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> > >

> > > Dear Neelay,

> > > Venus MD is due to start a few days. Venus is 7L and 12L. 7H shows frequent

> > > travels whereas 12h shows long distance travels and relocation. Venus is

> > > also placed in 8H of transformation. It is placed in trines to AL and hence

> > > should give you good results. Jupiter is transiting through 12H which is 9th

> > > from AL, this transit Jupiter is also aspecting AL and hence change should

> > > be smooth and good.

> > > Can you please tell us reason for this move? May be able to learn something

> > > from your response. Venus natural karka for marriage, is 7L and also DK, D9

> > > lagna lord, wonder if the move has anything to do with marriage?

> > > 10L from lagna as well as Moon is exalted Sun placed in movable sign, so you

> > > must have started working in foreign country. You should have a good career

> > > ahead of you. I am also curious to know the your career field. There are

> > > many planets having influence. Must have many changes in type of career over

> > > time. Just wondering if Jupiter, Mercury and Moon have greater influence for

> > > now. Jupiter stands for Finance, legal, teaching. Mercury is for trading

> > > and finance, Moon shows social contact, dealing with people.

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Dear Sourav,

Thanks for the clarification. I also went and read your exchange of post on Sohamsa with Sundeep. I guess my UL does not change, as I did not have a live in relationship with my friend. The affair was almost 3 yrs but now I come to think of it, I never though about marriage till the very end. But that may be because, I thougt marriage would be the inevitable outcome . Wishful thinking :).

Your zeal and enthusiasm in replying and explaining to others is highly commedable. For beginners like us, your detailed explanations are a great resource.

Thanks a lot.

Regards,

neelay

 

 

Sourav <souravc108 > wrote:

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Neelay,

namaskar. Please reconsider and not be quick in making decisions like new UL. I think now-a-days many students are quickly counting affairs and counting UL's. UL is significant only for marriage (ceremonial and consummated) AND for living together, sharing, compromising, sacrificing etc. for atleast 1 year or so (typically). An affair, even though very fond, is NOT UL it it does not satisfy the above considerations. Most affairs fall in A7 category or relate to 5th house/lord (emotions). Please read my comments in the Sohamsa list within last couple of weeks, directed to Sundeep on this topic. I will be happy to clarify/discuss after your reading.

Best wishes,

Sourav

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, neelay <neelay2006 wrote:

>

> Dear Sourav,

>

> Thanks for adding more input regarding AL and UL.. One doubt, now, in a case like mine there was intention for marriage (though it did not fructify), I think my new UL will be 8 th from the current UL.. If in future when I get married, will the relationship be influenced by the conditions of the rasi chart AL and UL being together, or the new UL which will be 8 th from current UL.

>

> I hope i have been able to put my question across clearly, as i am not able to phrase it correctly.

>

> Regards,

> Neelay

>

>

> Sourav souravc108 wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> Dear Ramesh and Neelay,

> Namaskar. AL conjoining UL shows that Marriage will be very important for the status of the person and viceversa. Notice that the marakas to UL and AL are same. Hence, when the person's status goes up marriage/relationship goes well and the reverse and to keep marriage well may require a lot of attention and sacrifice. UL in trines to AL usually makes society think them as a good match.

> Best wishes,

> Sourav

> ==============================================================

>

>

> , "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani@ wrote:

> >

> > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> >

> > Dear Neelay,

> > I think AL and UL being together shows good relationship between partners.

> > This is often extended to read as selection of partners by the individuals

> > themselves. Involvement of 5H and 5L would strengthen such possibility. LL

> > in 7H often shows the native being dominated by spouse and others.

> > For a good marriage fasting is recommended on the day represented by lord of

> > the 1st UL even if first serious relationship did not fructify.

> > You may also want to request Visti to recommend a remedy for Jupiter's

> > affliction by Saturn, Rahu and Mars.

> > Best Wishes,

> > Ramesh

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > [] On

> > Behalf Of neelay

> > Wednesday, July 26, 2006 1:53 AM

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from US to

> > India

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Ramesh,

> >

> > I am working fulltime now, so yes income is coming from abroad. I am not

> > very career motivated, so I am not sure how my career will be strong.

> >

> > Regarding desire for love marriage , denial from family, and the person

> > being fom different background. You are right on target. My friend was of

> > different caste, and yes there were differences in cultural background, but

> > caste and the differences was not the primary issue for denial. Anyway, all

> > that happened last year. Fasting on Sat would not make sense now, as my

> > friend has already moved on with his life, and am not interested in marriage

> > for some time.

> >

> > Thanks once again for taking interest in my chart. however, just for

> > learning purpose, i had a question, does AL and UL being togetehr alwasy

> > show love marriage. I thought it shows that the person would be submissive

> > to the spouse.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Neelay

> >

> >

> >

> > "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani@ wrote:

> >

> > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> >

> > Dear Neelay,

> > Thank you for the information. Mars in 10H from Moon and 10L from Moon in

> > movable sign are 2 indications of you working or getting income from abroad,

> > so that is very likely in future too. Strong career is the feature of the

> > chart. Competitive environment will bring out the best. Rahu as AK and Ketu

> > associated with AL shows, you will turn spiritual as you move on.

> > AL and UL are in the same house, may indicate love marriage, Ketu's

> > association may indicate person from different culture. May not be easy to

> > get approval from family! If you face issues, fasting on Saturdays, sunrise

> > to sunset will help.

> > 9L moon is debilitated, gets neecha bhanga through Mars. Wearing a pearl may

> > still be a good idea!

> > Best Wishes,

> > Ramesh

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > [] On

> > Behalf Of neelay

> > Monday, July 17, 2006 12:24 PM

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from US to

> > India

> >

> >

> > Dear Ramesh,

> >

> > Thanks for replying. No, the move has nothing to do with marriage. I am

> > single right now and plan to stay that way for few years. Reason for move is

> > some personal problems and difficulties. There are factors which are

> > compelling me to stay back , but there are equally strong factors for a move

> > back to India. That's why the dilemma. Therefore was seeking guidance

> > through stars. :-)

> >

> > I have not worked fulltime in US. I was a student all along doing my BS and

> > MS in Computer Science. I worked part time on campus as generally most

> > students work.

> >

> > Yes, there was a change in my career. I did my +2 in commerce and even one

> > year of college in India in BCom. Then this radical change of career and I

> > came to US to start my undergraduate studies in Comp Sc from scratch.

> >

> > hope my feedback has been clear enough.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Neelay

> >

> > "Ramesh F. Gangaramani" ramesh.gangaramani@ wrote:

> >

> > || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat ||

> >

> > Dear Neelay,

> > Venus MD is due to start a few days. Venus is 7L and 12L. 7H shows frequent

> > travels whereas 12h shows long distance travels and relocation. Venus is

> > also placed in 8H of transformation. It is placed in trines to AL and hence

> > should give you good results. Jupiter is transiting through 12H which is 9th

> > from AL, this transit Jupiter is also aspecting AL and hence change should

> > be smooth and good.

> > Can you please tell us reason for this move? May be able to learn something

> > from your response. Venus natural karka for marriage, is 7L and also DK, D9

> > lagna lord, wonder if the move has anything to do with marriage?

> > 10L from lagna as well as Moon is exalted Sun placed in movable sign, so you

> > must have started working in foreign country. You should have a good career

> > ahead of you. I am also curious to know the your career field. There are

> > many planets having influence. Must have many changes in type of career over

> > time. Just wondering if Jupiter, Mercury and Moon have greater influence for

> > now. Jupiter stands for Finance, legal, teaching. Mercury is for trading

> > and finance, Moon shows social contact, dealing with people.

> > Best Wishes,

> > Ramesh

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > [] On

> > Behalf Of neelay

> > Friday, July 07, 2006 12:25 PM

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Guidance needed in making a move from US to India

> >

> >

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Neelay

> > _____

> >

> > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great

> > <http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http://us.rd./ev

> > t=39666/*http://messenger.> rates starting at 1¢/min.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Neelay

> > _____

> >

> >

> > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new

> > <http://us.rd./evt=42241/*http://advision.webevents./handr

> > aisers> Mail Beta.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Best Wishes

> > Neelay

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great

> > <http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http://us.rd./ev

> > t=39666/*http://messenger.> rates starting at 1¢/min.

> >

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> Best Wishes

> Neelay

>

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