[Restricted, personal, non-astrological, I call it verse, You may not!]

[Guest guest]

When trust dies

What remains? Or awaits??

Perhaps only rebirth of LOVE ...

that must rekindle baby trust, yet again ...

Like every single birth

You have experienced here or elsewhere!

 

All births come in crying, but ...

How many do we manage to send back smiling to the Maker?

Each of us individually -- not in pairs, groups, cliques/cohorts

But simply alone, individually

As each of us promised to as we parachuted back down to Earth!

 

The Second Coming, unlike the FIRST one some 2000 years ago --

Perhaps would be a personal event

The Lamb shall come in truly with a whisper

That many of us will miss the first time ...

But not entirely, or forever!

 

 

Rohiniranjan

[Guest guest]

Ranjanda,

Rooh ki khamoshi hi to khuda ki awaaz hai, aap ne hi

to kaha tha.

Khuda ki awaaz to hamesha hi goonjti rahti hai.

Trust ..or yakeen to waham se bhi naazuk hota hai.

Trust, therefore, is what is eternal and forever in

this world, which changes every moment.

Love, then is also eternal and unchanging or shashwat!

What cannot die cannot take birth or even rebirth.

It is only that with time certain shadows lengthen and

darkness intermingles with bright sunshine leading to

confusion in human thoughts and emotions.

But as we agreed, the soul needs no illumination for

it glows with the warmth and love which is beyond

words and possibly, even a poet cannot express it!!

 

An immortal sufi verse goes thus:

 

"I have two ways of loving You:

A selfish one

And another way that is worthy of You.

In my selfish love, I remember You and You alone.

In that other love, You lift the veil

And let me feast my eyes on Your Living Face."

 

 

 

 

Who knows, perhaps, only the Lord...that what ends and

waits for rebirth is the illusion or not.

regards

 

rishi

 

 

--- crystal pages <jyotish_vani (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote:

 

> When trust dies

> What remains? Or awaits??

> Perhaps only rebirth of LOVE ...

> that must rekindle baby trust, yet again ...

> Like every single birth

> You have experienced here or elsewhere!

>

> All births come in crying, but ...

> How many do we manage to send back smiling to the

> Maker?

> Each of us individually -- not in pairs, groups,

> cliques/cohorts

> But simply alone, individually

> As each of us promised to as we parachuted back down

> to Earth!

>

> The Second Coming, unlike the FIRST one some 2000

> years ago --

> Perhaps would be a personal event

> The Lamb shall come in truly with a whisper

> That many of us will miss the first time ...

> But not entirely, or forever!

>

>

> Rohiniranjan

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

, "crystal pages" <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> When trust dies

> What remains? Or awaits??

> Perhaps only rebirth of LOVE ...

> that must rekindle baby trust, yet again ...

> Like every single birth

> You have experienced here or elsewhere!

>

> All births come in crying, but ...

> How many do we manage to send back smiling to the Maker?

> Each of us individually -- not in pairs, groups, cliques/cohorts

> But simply alone, individually

> As each of us promised to as we parachuted back down to Earth!

>

> The Second Coming, unlike the FIRST one some 2000 years ago --

> Perhaps would be a personal event

> The Lamb shall come in truly with a whisper

> That many of us will miss the first time ...

> But not entirely, or forever!

>

>

> Rohiniranjan

 

RR,

 

You've been touched with the divine.

 

Sorry, but no poetry allowed on this newsgroup! Only hard facts. ;-)

 

The Kidder in Sedona.

[Guest guest]

Short topical answer -- Rishi

 

Love is Internet

Trust is your internet service provider allowing you to connect!

 

 

RR

 

, rishi shukla

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> Ranjanda,

> Rooh ki khamoshi hi to khuda ki awaaz hai, aap ne hi

> to kaha tha.

> Khuda ki awaaz to hamesha hi goonjti rahti hai.

> Trust ..or yakeen to waham se bhi naazuk hota hai.

> Trust, therefore, is what is eternal and forever in

> this world, which changes every moment.

> Love, then is also eternal and unchanging or shashwat!

> What cannot die cannot take birth or even rebirth.

> It is only that with time certain shadows lengthen and

> darkness intermingles with bright sunshine leading to

> confusion in human thoughts and emotions.

> But as we agreed, the soul needs no illumination for

> it glows with the warmth and love which is beyond

> words and possibly, even a poet cannot express it!!

>

> An immortal sufi verse goes thus:

>

> "I have two ways of loving You:

> A selfish one

> And another way that is worthy of You.

> In my selfish love, I remember You and You alone.

> In that other love, You lift the veil

> And let me feast my eyes on Your Living Face."

>

>

>

>

> Who knows, perhaps, only the Lord...that what ends and

> waits for rebirth is the illusion or not.

> regards

>

> rishi

>

>

> --- crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> > When trust dies

> > What remains? Or awaits??

> > Perhaps only rebirth of LOVE ...

> > that must rekindle baby trust, yet again ...

> > Like every single birth

> > You have experienced here or elsewhere!

> >

> > All births come in crying, but ...

> > How many do we manage to send back smiling to the

> > Maker?

> > Each of us individually -- not in pairs, groups,

> > cliques/cohorts

> > But simply alone, individually

> > As each of us promised to as we parachuted back down

> > to Earth!

> >

> > The Second Coming, unlike the FIRST one some 2000

> > years ago --

> > Perhaps would be a personal event

> > The Lamb shall come in truly with a whisper

> > That many of us will miss the first time ...

> > But not entirely, or forever!

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

The operative part being:

Perhaps would be a personal event

> > The Lamb shall come in truly with a whisper

> > That many of us will miss the first time ...

> > But not entirely, or forever!

 

I agree, the path is well lighted though just a bit tricky.

Thankyou!

rishi

 

 

 

 

, rishi shukla

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> Ranjanda,

> Rooh ki khamoshi hi to khuda ki awaaz hai, aap ne hi

> to kaha tha.

> Khuda ki awaaz to hamesha hi goonjti rahti hai.Perhaps would be a

personal event

> > The Lamb shall come in truly with a whisper

> > That many of us will miss the first time ...

> > But not entirely, or forever!

 

> Trust ..or yakeen to waham se bhi naazuk hota hai.

> Trust, therefore, is what is eternal and forever in

> this world, which changes every moment.

> Love, then is also eternal and unchanging or shashwat!

> What cannot die cannot take birth or even rebirth.

> It is only that with time certain shadows lengthen and

> darkness intermingles with bright sunshine leading to

> confusion in human thoughts and emotions.

> But as we agreed, the soul needs no illumination for

> it glows with the warmth and love which is beyond

> words and possibly, even a poet cannot express it!!

>

> An immortal sufi verse goes thus:

>

> "I have two ways of loving You:

> A selfish one

> And another way that is worthy of You.

> In my selfish love, I remember You and You alone.

> In that other love, You lift the veil

> And let me feast my eyes on Your Living Face."

>

>

>

>

> Who knows, perhaps, only the Lord...that what ends and

> waits for rebirth is the illusion or not.

> regards

>

> rishi

>

>

> --- crystal pages <jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> > When trust dies

> > What remains? Or awaits??

> > Perhaps only rebirth of LOVE ...

> > that must rekindle baby trust, yet again ...

> > Like every single birth

> > You have experienced here or elsewhere!

> >

> > All births come in crying, but ...

> > How many do we manage to send back smiling to the

> > Maker?

> > Each of us individually -- not in pairs, groups,

> > cliques/cohorts

> > But simply alone, individually

> > As each of us promised to as we parachuted back down

> > to Earth!

> >

> > The Second Coming, unlike the FIRST one some 2000

> > years ago --

> > > >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Haizen, the one living amongst energy spots of Sedona ;-)

 

How can one be a divinator without being touched by the divine?

 

All of us are in the same boat! And we have sump pumps installed,

just in case ...!

 

RR

 

, "haizen" <haizen wrote:

>

> , "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > When trust dies

> > What remains? Or awaits??

> > Perhaps only rebirth of LOVE ...

> > that must rekindle baby trust, yet again ...

> > Like every single birth

> > You have experienced here or elsewhere!

> >

> > All births come in crying, but ...

> > How many do we manage to send back smiling to the Maker?

> > Each of us individually -- not in pairs, groups, cliques/cohorts

> > But simply alone, individually

> > As each of us promised to as we parachuted back down to Earth!

> >

> > The Second Coming, unlike the FIRST one some 2000 years ago --

> > Perhaps would be a personal event

> > The Lamb shall come in truly with a whisper

> > That many of us will miss the first time ...

> > But not entirely, or forever!

> >

> >

> > Rohiniranjan

>

> RR,

>

> You've been touched with the divine.

>

> Sorry, but no poetry allowed on this newsgroup! Only hard facts. ;-)

>

> The Kidder in Sedona.

>

[Guest guest]

What an adult senses as "tricky", a child sees as a fairy tale and an

enjoyable play.

 

The child really has no sense of what will be coming when he grows up!

 

The grown up has forgotten what it was like to be a child!

 

SAD? You bet!!

 

Total recall is the only answer to global comprehension and peace!

 

<I do not have it, but do sense that that is the way to go!>

 

ranjan

 

 

, "rishi_2000in"

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> The operative part being:

> Perhaps would be a personal event

> > > The Lamb shall come in truly with a whisper

> > > That many of us will miss the first time ...

> > > But not entirely, or forever!

>

> I agree, the path is well lighted though just a bit tricky.

> Thankyou!

> rishi

>

>

>

>

> , rishi shukla

> <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> >

> > Ranjanda,

> > Rooh ki khamoshi hi to khuda ki awaaz hai, aap ne hi

> > to kaha tha.

> > Khuda ki awaaz to hamesha hi goonjti rahti hai.Perhaps would be a

> personal event

> > > The Lamb shall come in truly with a whisper

> > > That many of us will miss the first time ...

> > > But not entirely, or forever!

>

> > Trust ..or yakeen to waham se bhi naazuk hota hai.

> > Trust, therefore, is what is eternal and forever in

> > this world, which changes every moment.

> > Love, then is also eternal and unchanging or shashwat!

> > What cannot die cannot take birth or even rebirth.

> > It is only that with time certain shadows lengthen and

> > darkness intermingles with bright sunshine leading to

> > confusion in human thoughts and emotions.

> > But as we agreed, the soul needs no illumination for

> > it glows with the warmth and love which is beyond

> > words and possibly, even a poet cannot express it!!

> >

> > An immortal sufi verse goes thus:

> >

> > "I have two ways of loving You:

> > A selfish one

> > And another way that is worthy of You.

> > In my selfish love, I remember You and You alone.

> > In that other love, You lift the veil

> > And let me feast my eyes on Your Living Face."

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Who knows, perhaps, only the Lord...that what ends and

> > waits for rebirth is the illusion or not.

> > regards

> >

> > rishi

> >

> >

> > --- crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > > When trust dies

> > > What remains? Or awaits??

> > > Perhaps only rebirth of LOVE ...

> > > that must rekindle baby trust, yet again ...

> > > Like every single birth

> > > You have experienced here or elsewhere!

> > >

> > > All births come in crying, but ...

> > > How many do we manage to send back smiling to the

> > > Maker?

> > > Each of us individually -- not in pairs, groups,

> > > cliques/cohorts

> > > But simply alone, individually

> > > As each of us promised to as we parachuted back down

> > > to Earth!

> > >

> > > The Second Coming, unlike the FIRST one some 2000

> > > years ago --

> > > > >

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Those of us in India, treat ISP's as the will of God, will allow to

connect when it wants to.

Trust is if I have power supply and then.....get betrayed everyday

for a few hours.Ofcourse, those in Metro cities get betrayed less.

Love then a distant childish demand!!

So then lucky you!

regards

rishi

 

 

 

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Short topical answer -- Rishi

>

> Love is Internet

> Trust is your internet service provider allowing you to connect!

>

>

> RR

>

> , rishi shukla

> <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> >

> > Ranjanda,

> > Rooh ki khamoshi hi to khuda ki awaaz hai, aap ne hi

> > to kaha tha.

> > Khuda ki awaaz to hamesha hi goonjti rahti hai.

> > Trust ..or yakeen to waham se bhi naazuk hota hai.

> > Trust, therefore, is what is eternal and forever in

> > this world, which changes every moment.

> > Love, then is also eternal and unchanging or shashwat!

> > What cannot die cannot take birth or even rebirth.

> > It is only that with time certain shadows lengthen and

> > darkness intermingles with bright sunshine leading to

> > confusion in human thoughts and emotions.

> > But as we agreed, the soul needs no illumination for

> > it glows with the warmth and love which is beyond

> > words and possibly, even a poet cannot express it!!

> >

> > An immortal sufi verse goes thus:

> >

> > "I have two ways of loving You:

> > A selfish one

> > And another way that is worthy of You.

> > In my selfish love, I remember You and You alone.

> > In that other love, You lift the veil

> > And let me feast my eyes on Your Living Face."

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Who knows, perhaps, only the Lord...that what ends and

> > waits for rebirth is the illusion or not.

> > regards

> >

> > rishi

> >

> >

> > --- crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > > When trust dies

> > > What remains? Or awaits??

> > > Perhaps only rebirth of LOVE ...

> > > that must rekindle baby trust, yet again ...

> > > Like every single birth

> > > You have experienced here or elsewhere!

> > >

> > > All births come in crying, but ...

> > > How many do we manage to send back smiling to the

> > > Maker?

> > > Each of us individually -- not in pairs, groups,

> > > cliques/cohorts

> > > But simply alone, individually

> > > As each of us promised to as we parachuted back down

> > > to Earth!

> > >

> > > The Second Coming, unlike the FIRST one some 2000

> > > years ago --

> > > Perhaps would be a personal event

> > > The Lamb shall come in truly with a whisper

> > > That many of us will miss the first time ...

> > > But not entirely, or forever!

> > >

> > >

> > > Rohiniranjan

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Rishibhai,

 

We all pay the price! In different currencies perhaps but the

Universal Tax Collector is watching all of us -- unless you are

working for IT (gender reference significant! And not an acronym for

information technology)

 

ranjan

 

, "rishi_2000in"

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> Those of us in India, treat ISP's as the will of God, will allow to

> connect when it wants to.

> Trust is if I have power supply and then.....get betrayed everyday

> for a few hours.Ofcourse, those in Metro cities get betrayed less.

> Love then a distant childish demand!!

> So then lucky you!

> regards

> rishi

>

>

>

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Short topical answer -- Rishi

> >

> > Love is Internet

> > Trust is your internet service provider allowing you to connect!

> >

> >

> > RR

> >

> > , rishi shukla

> > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Ranjanda,

> > > Rooh ki khamoshi hi to khuda ki awaaz hai, aap ne hi

> > > to kaha tha.

> > > Khuda ki awaaz to hamesha hi goonjti rahti hai.

> > > Trust ..or yakeen to waham se bhi naazuk hota hai.

> > > Trust, therefore, is what is eternal and forever in

> > > this world, which changes every moment.

> > > Love, then is also eternal and unchanging or shashwat!

> > > What cannot die cannot take birth or even rebirth.

> > > It is only that with time certain shadows lengthen and

> > > darkness intermingles with bright sunshine leading to

> > > confusion in human thoughts and emotions.

> > > But as we agreed, the soul needs no illumination for

> > > it glows with the warmth and love which is beyond

> > > words and possibly, even a poet cannot express it!!

> > >

> > > An immortal sufi verse goes thus:

> > >

> > > "I have two ways of loving You:

> > > A selfish one

> > > And another way that is worthy of You.

> > > In my selfish love, I remember You and You alone.

> > > In that other love, You lift the veil

> > > And let me feast my eyes on Your Living Face."

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Who knows, perhaps, only the Lord...that what ends and

> > > waits for rebirth is the illusion or not.

> > > regards

> > >

> > > rishi

> > >

> > >

> > > --- crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > When trust dies

> > > > What remains? Or awaits??

> > > > Perhaps only rebirth of LOVE ...

> > > > that must rekindle baby trust, yet again ...

> > > > Like every single birth

> > > > You have experienced here or elsewhere!

> > > >

> > > > All births come in crying, but ...

> > > > How many do we manage to send back smiling to the

> > > > Maker?

> > > > Each of us individually -- not in pairs, groups,

> > > > cliques/cohorts

> > > > But simply alone, individually

> > > > As each of us promised to as we parachuted back down

> > > > to Earth!

> > > >

> > > > The Second Coming, unlike the FIRST one some 2000

> > > > years ago --

> > > > Perhaps would be a personal event

> > > > The Lamb shall come in truly with a whisper

> > > > That many of us will miss the first time ...

> > > > But not entirely, or forever!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well, if IT works then!

 

 

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> Rishibhai,

>

> We all pay the price! In different currencies perhaps but the

> Universal Tax Collector is watching all of us -- unless you are

> working for IT (gender reference significant! And not an acronym

for

> information technology)

>

> ranjan

>

> , "rishi_2000in"

> <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> >

> > Those of us in India, treat ISP's as the will of God, will allow

to

> > connect when it wants to.

> > Trust is if I have power supply and then.....get betrayed

everyday

> > for a few hours.Ofcourse, those in Metro cities get betrayed

less.

> > Love then a distant childish demand!!

> > So then lucky you!

> > regards

> > rishi

> >

> >

> >

> > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Short topical answer -- Rishi

> > >

> > > Love is Internet

> > > Trust is your internet service provider allowing you to

connect!

> > >

> > >

> > > RR

> > >

> > > , rishi shukla

> > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Ranjanda,

> > > > Rooh ki khamoshi hi to khuda ki awaaz hai, aap ne hi

> > > > to kaha tha.

> > > > Khuda ki awaaz to hamesha hi goonjti rahti hai.

> > > > Trust ..or yakeen to waham se bhi naazuk hota hai.

> > > > Trust, therefore, is what is eternal and forever in

> > > > this world, which changes every moment.

> > > > Love, then is also eternal and unchanging or shashwat!

> > > > What cannot die cannot take birth or even rebirth.

> > > > It is only that with time certain shadows lengthen and

> > > > darkness intermingles with bright sunshine leading to

> > > > confusion in human thoughts and emotions.

> > > > But as we agreed, the soul needs no illumination for

> > > > it glows with the warmth and love which is beyond

> > > > words and possibly, even a poet cannot express it!!

> > > >

> > > > An immortal sufi verse goes thus:

> > > >

> > > > "I have two ways of loving You:

> > > > A selfish one

> > > > And another way that is worthy of You.

> > > > In my selfish love, I remember You and You alone.

> > > > In that other love, You lift the veil

> > > > And let me feast my eyes on Your Living Face."

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Who knows, perhaps, only the Lord...that what ends and

> > > > waits for rebirth is the illusion or not.

> > > > regards

> > > >

> > > > rishi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > When trust dies

> > > > > What remains? Or awaits??

> > > > > Perhaps only rebirth of LOVE ...

> > > > > that must rekindle baby trust, yet again ...

> > > > > Like every single birth

> > > > > You have experienced here or elsewhere!

> > > > >

> > > > > All births come in crying, but ...

> > > > > How many do we manage to send back smiling to the

> > > > > Maker?

> > > > > Each of us individually -- not in pairs, groups,

> > > > > cliques/cohorts

> > > > > But simply alone, individually

> > > > > As each of us promised to as we parachuted back down

> > > > > to Earth!

> > > > >

> > > > > The Second Coming, unlike the FIRST one some 2000

> > > > > years ago --

> > > > > Perhaps would be a personal event

> > > > > The Lamb shall come in truly with a whisper

> > > > > That many of us will miss the first time ...

> > > > > But not entirely, or forever!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

around

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

At the risk of being branded personal communication, this exchange

between us, I would say that IT works!

 

I was of course referring to Saturn as IT. Saturn is the tax

collector in my framework and hopefully of others' too.

 

Lot of individuals seem to feel that if we just send in the payments

just before Saturn visits us ALL will be fine! I respectfully submit

that that may not be the case! Payments and prepayments used as an

excuse to avoid the Tax Collector may not be the most efficient

strategy. Anticipatory preparation is the word that this ant will

utilize perhaps! I apologize for my oxymoron! How can preparation be

anything but anticipatory?

 

Let us say someone would experience a sub-sub period of saturn during

March to June 2007 it might be a good idea to give the eyes lots of

rest prior to that period and to take some anticipatory steps that

would make sure that one's finances and work sector are taken care

of. There is an adage amongst handymen and amateur carpenters:

Measure twice, cut once! Such an anticipatory cautious approach goes

a long way!

 

ranjan

, "rishi_2000in"

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> Well, if IT works then!

>

>

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > Rishibhai,

> >

> > We all pay the price! In different currencies perhaps but the

> > Universal Tax Collector is watching all of us -- unless you are

> > working for IT (gender reference significant! And not an acronym

> for

> > information technology)

> >

> > ranjan

> >

> > , "rishi_2000in"

> > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Those of us in India, treat ISP's as the will of God, will

allow

> to

> > > connect when it wants to.

> > > Trust is if I have power supply and then.....get betrayed

> everyday

> > > for a few hours.Ofcourse, those in Metro cities get betrayed

> less.

> > > Love then a distant childish demand!!

> > > So then lucky you!

> > > regards

> > > rishi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , "crystal pages"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Short topical answer -- Rishi

> > > >

> > > > Love is Internet

> > > > Trust is your internet service provider allowing you to

> connect!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > RR

> > > >

> > > > , rishi shukla

> > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Ranjanda,

> > > > > Rooh ki khamoshi hi to khuda ki awaaz hai, aap ne hi

> > > > > to kaha tha.

> > > > > Khuda ki awaaz to hamesha hi goonjti rahti hai.

> > > > > Trust ..or yakeen to waham se bhi naazuk hota hai.

> > > > > Trust, therefore, is what is eternal and forever in

> > > > > this world, which changes every moment.

> > > > > Love, then is also eternal and unchanging or shashwat!

> > > > > What cannot die cannot take birth or even rebirth.

> > > > > It is only that with time certain shadows lengthen and

> > > > > darkness intermingles with bright sunshine leading to

> > > > > confusion in human thoughts and emotions.

> > > > > But as we agreed, the soul needs no illumination for

> > > > > it glows with the warmth and love which is beyond

> > > > > words and possibly, even a poet cannot express it!!

> > > > >

> > > > > An immortal sufi verse goes thus:

> > > > >

> > > > > "I have two ways of loving You:

> > > > > A selfish one

> > > > > And another way that is worthy of You.

> > > > > In my selfish love, I remember You and You alone.

> > > > > In that other love, You lift the veil

> > > > > And let me feast my eyes on Your Living Face."

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Who knows, perhaps, only the Lord...that what ends and

> > > > > waits for rebirth is the illusion or not.

> > > > > regards

> > > > >

> > > > > rishi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > When trust dies

> > > > > > What remains? Or awaits??

> > > > > > Perhaps only rebirth of LOVE ...

> > > > > > that must rekindle baby trust, yet again ...

> > > > > > Like every single birth

> > > > > > You have experienced here or elsewhere!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > All births come in crying, but ...

> > > > > > How many do we manage to send back smiling to the

> > > > > > Maker?

> > > > > > Each of us individually -- not in pairs, groups,

> > > > > > cliques/cohorts

> > > > > > But simply alone, individually

> > > > > > As each of us promised to as we parachuted back down

> > > > > > to Earth!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The Second Coming, unlike the FIRST one some 2000

> > > > > > years ago --

> > > > > > Perhaps would be a personal event

> > > > > > The Lamb shall come in truly with a whisper

> > > > > > That many of us will miss the first time ...

> > > > > > But not entirely, or forever!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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[Guest guest]

A conventional jyotish story goes:

Shanidev knocked at Lord Shiva's door and informed that it is time

for the dhaiyya ( the two and a half year period). The Lord decided

to do something about this tax collector who does not hesitate to

even seek from the Lord. Quickly, He used anticipatory planning and

said, " Shanidev, there are pending important matters so why don't

you come next week"

Shanidev obliged, afterall who can refuse Lord Shiva.

Meanwhile, the Lord decided to get away and ensure that Shanidev

doesn't reach Him. In deep uninhabited forests, far from everyone

the Lord found a spot and stood on his head in sheeershashan, for

they say Shani sits on the head.

Shanidev reached the spot and found Lord Shiva standing on his head,

so Shanidev quietly circled the spot for the next two and a half

years with the Lord adamant that He wouldn't allow Shani to reach

His head.

As the dhaiyya ended, the Lord stood up and Shanidev said thanks and

walked away, leaving the Lord to ponder over HIS secere penance for

the period. So much for getting away.

regards

 

rishi

 

 

 

, "crystal pages"

<jyotish_vani wrote:

>

> At the risk of being branded personal communication, this exchange

> between us, I would say that IT works!

>

> I was of course referring to Saturn as IT. Saturn is the tax

> collector in my framework and hopefully of others' too.

>

> Lot of individuals seem to feel that if we just send in the

payments

> just before Saturn visits us ALL will be fine! I respectfully

submit

> that that may not be the case! Payments and prepayments used as an

> excuse to avoid the Tax Collector may not be the most efficient

> strategy. Anticipatory preparation is the word that this ant will

> utilize perhaps! I apologize for my oxymoron! How can preparation

be

> anything but anticipatory?

>

> Let us say someone would experience a sub-sub period of saturn

during

> March to June 2007 it might be a good idea to give the eyes lots

of

> rest prior to that period and to take some anticipatory steps that

> would make sure that one's finances and work sector are taken care

> of. There is an adage amongst handymen and amateur carpenters:

> Measure twice, cut once! Such an anticipatory cautious approach

goes

> a long way!

>

> ranjan

> , "rishi_2000in"

> <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> >

> > Well, if IT works then!

> >

> >

> > , "crystal pages"

> > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Rishibhai,

> > >

> > > We all pay the price! In different currencies perhaps but the

> > > Universal Tax Collector is watching all of us -- unless you

are

> > > working for IT (gender reference significant! And not an

acronym

> > for

> > > information technology)

> > >

> > > ranjan

> > >

> > > , "rishi_2000in"

> > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Those of us in India, treat ISP's as the will of God, will

> allow

> > to

> > > > connect when it wants to.

> > > > Trust is if I have power supply and then.....get betrayed

> > everyday

> > > > for a few hours.Ofcourse, those in Metro cities get betrayed

> > less.

> > > > Love then a distant childish demand!!

> > > > So then lucky you!

> > > > regards

> > > > rishi

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Short topical answer -- Rishi

> > > > >

> > > > > Love is Internet

> > > > > Trust is your internet service provider allowing you to

> > connect!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > RR

> > > > >

> > > > > , rishi shukla

> > > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Ranjanda,

> > > > > > Rooh ki khamoshi hi to khuda ki awaaz hai, aap ne hi

> > > > > > to kaha tha.

> > > > > > Khuda ki awaaz to hamesha hi goonjti rahti hai.

> > > > > > Trust ..or yakeen to waham se bhi naazuk hota hai.

> > > > > > Trust, therefore, is what is eternal and forever in

> > > > > > this world, which changes every moment.

> > > > > > Love, then is also eternal and unchanging or shashwat!

> > > > > > What cannot die cannot take birth or even rebirth.

> > > > > > It is only that with time certain shadows lengthen and

> > > > > > darkness intermingles with bright sunshine leading to

> > > > > > confusion in human thoughts and emotions.

> > > > > > But as we agreed, the soul needs no illumination for

> > > > > > it glows with the warmth and love which is beyond

> > > > > > words and possibly, even a poet cannot express it!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > > An immortal sufi verse goes thus:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "I have two ways of loving You:

> > > > > > A selfish one

> > > > > > And another way that is worthy of You.

> > > > > > In my selfish love, I remember You and You alone.

> > > > > > In that other love, You lift the veil

> > > > > > And let me feast my eyes on Your Living Face."

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Who knows, perhaps, only the Lord...that what ends and

> > > > > > waits for rebirth is the illusion or not.

> > > > > > regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > rishi

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > --- crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > When trust dies

> > > > > > > What remains? Or awaits??

> > > > > > > Perhaps only rebirth of LOVE ...

> > > > > > > that must rekindle baby trust, yet again ...

> > > > > > > Like every single birth

> > > > > > > You have experienced here or elsewhere!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > All births come in crying, but ...

> > > > > > > How many do we manage to send back smiling to the

> > > > > > > Maker?

> > > > > > > Each of us individually -- not in pairs, groups,

> > > > > > > cliques/cohorts

> > > > > > > But simply alone, individually

> > > > > > > As each of us promised to as we parachuted back down

> > > > > > > to Earth!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > The Second Coming, unlike the FIRST one some 2000

> > > > > > > years ago --

> > > > > > > Perhaps would be a personal event

> > > > > > > The Lamb shall come in truly with a whisper

> > > > > > > That many of us will miss the first time ...

> > > > > > > But not entirely, or forever!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection

> > around

> > > > > >

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> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

GOOD ONE

Bhaskar.

 

 

, "rishi_2000in"

<rishi_2000in wrote:

>

> A conventional jyotish story goes:

> Shanidev knocked at Lord Shiva's door and informed that it is time

> for the dhaiyya ( the two and a half year period). The Lord decided

> to do something about this tax collector who does not hesitate to

> even seek from the Lord. Quickly, He used anticipatory planning and

> said, " Shanidev, there are pending important matters so why don't

> you come next week"

> Shanidev obliged, afterall who can refuse Lord Shiva.

> Meanwhile, the Lord decided to get away and ensure that Shanidev

> doesn't reach Him. In deep uninhabited forests, far from everyone

> the Lord found a spot and stood on his head in sheeershashan, for

> they say Shani sits on the head.

> Shanidev reached the spot and found Lord Shiva standing on his

head,

> so Shanidev quietly circled the spot for the next two and a half

> years with the Lord adamant that He wouldn't allow Shani to reach

> His head.

> As the dhaiyya ended, the Lord stood up and Shanidev said thanks

and

> walked away, leaving the Lord to ponder over HIS secere penance for

> the period. So much for getting away.

> regards

>

> rishi

>

>

>

> , "crystal pages"

> <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> >

> > At the risk of being branded personal communication, this

exchange

> > between us, I would say that IT works!

> >

> > I was of course referring to Saturn as IT. Saturn is the tax

> > collector in my framework and hopefully of others' too.

> >

> > Lot of individuals seem to feel that if we just send in the

> payments

> > just before Saturn visits us ALL will be fine! I respectfully

> submit

> > that that may not be the case! Payments and prepayments used as

an

> > excuse to avoid the Tax Collector may not be the most efficient

> > strategy. Anticipatory preparation is the word that this ant will

> > utilize perhaps! I apologize for my oxymoron! How can preparation

> be

> > anything but anticipatory?

> >

> > Let us say someone would experience a sub-sub period of saturn

> during

> > March to June 2007 it might be a good idea to give the eyes lots

> of

> > rest prior to that period and to take some anticipatory steps

that

> > would make sure that one's finances and work sector are taken

care

> > of. There is an adage amongst handymen and amateur carpenters:

> > Measure twice, cut once! Such an anticipatory cautious approach

> goes

> > a long way!

> >

> > ranjan

> > , "rishi_2000in"

> > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Well, if IT works then!

> > >

> > >

> > > , "crystal pages"

> > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Rishibhai,

> > > >

> > > > We all pay the price! In different currencies perhaps but the

> > > > Universal Tax Collector is watching all of us -- unless you

> are

> > > > working for IT (gender reference significant! And not an

> acronym

> > > for

> > > > information technology)

> > > >

> > > > ranjan

> > > >

> > > > , "rishi_2000in"

> > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Those of us in India, treat ISP's as the will of God, will

> > allow

> > > to

> > > > > connect when it wants to.

> > > > > Trust is if I have power supply and then.....get betrayed

> > > everyday

> > > > > for a few hours.Ofcourse, those in Metro cities get

betrayed

> > > less.

> > > > > Love then a distant childish demand!!

> > > > > So then lucky you!

> > > > > regards

> > > > > rishi

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , "crystal pages"

> > > > > <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Short topical answer -- Rishi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Love is Internet

> > > > > > Trust is your internet service provider allowing you to

> > > connect!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > RR

> > > > > >

> > > > > > , rishi shukla

> > > > > > <rishi_2000in@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Ranjanda,

> > > > > > > Rooh ki khamoshi hi to khuda ki awaaz hai, aap ne hi

> > > > > > > to kaha tha.

> > > > > > > Khuda ki awaaz to hamesha hi goonjti rahti hai.

> > > > > > > Trust ..or yakeen to waham se bhi naazuk hota hai.

> > > > > > > Trust, therefore, is what is eternal and forever in

> > > > > > > this world, which changes every moment.

> > > > > > > Love, then is also eternal and unchanging or shashwat!

> > > > > > > What cannot die cannot take birth or even rebirth.

> > > > > > > It is only that with time certain shadows lengthen and

> > > > > > > darkness intermingles with bright sunshine leading to

> > > > > > > confusion in human thoughts and emotions.

> > > > > > > But as we agreed, the soul needs no illumination for

> > > > > > > it glows with the warmth and love which is beyond

> > > > > > > words and possibly, even a poet cannot express it!!

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > An immortal sufi verse goes thus:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > "I have two ways of loving You:

> > > > > > > A selfish one

> > > > > > > And another way that is worthy of You.

> > > > > > > In my selfish love, I remember You and You alone.

> > > > > > > In that other love, You lift the veil

> > > > > > > And let me feast my eyes on Your Living Face."

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Who knows, perhaps, only the Lord...that what ends and

> > > > > > > waits for rebirth is the illusion or not.

> > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > rishi

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- crystal pages <jyotish_vani@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > When trust dies

> > > > > > > > What remains? Or awaits??

> > > > > > > > Perhaps only rebirth of LOVE ...

> > > > > > > > that must rekindle baby trust, yet again ...

> > > > > > > > Like every single birth

> > > > > > > > You have experienced here or elsewhere!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > All births come in crying, but ...

> > > > > > > > How many do we manage to send back smiling to the

> > > > > > > > Maker?

> > > > > > > > Each of us individually -- not in pairs, groups,

> > > > > > > > cliques/cohorts

> > > > > > > > But simply alone, individually

> > > > > > > > As each of us promised to as we parachuted back down

> > > > > > > > to Earth!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > The Second Coming, unlike the FIRST one some 2000

> > > > > > > > years ago --

> > > > > > > > Perhaps would be a personal event

> > > > > > > > The Lamb shall come in truly with a whisper

> > > > > > > > That many of us will miss the first time ...

> > > > > > > > But not entirely, or forever!

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Rohiniranjan

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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> > > around

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