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Devotees and parents

What my mother went through during my teenage years! Single-handedly

maintaining the family consisting of herself, our grandmother, myself and my

sister, and pursuing her professional career in the same time, she was always

concerned about our future and worked hard to give us proper education. “Your

most important asset is knowledge,” she used to say, and so at the age of 17 I

was an avid reader and learner, but had little social skills and no friends.

Then (”Finally!”) a boyfriend appeared on the scene, and I threw myself into

the new experience with enthusiasm of a neophyte who wants to taste life on his

own.

What could be more threatening to my bright future? In my mother’s mind, all

the alarm systems went up, and soon I found myself under home arrest, our

meetings strictly forbidden, our mail controlled, and what not. She didn’t

understand and didn’t trust me. The war was long and painful. She fought to

protect her daughter; I fought, not so much for my boyfriend, but rather for

freedom of choice, without which any “bright future” had no appeal.

At the age of 18 I met the hippies and one summer day they told me about a

Krishna farm at the other end of Poland. Curious, I went there with them,

against my mother’s hysterical interdiction. Or maybe because of it? The

devotees, their dress and habits seemed weird. “I would sooner become a

Christian than that!” But I had to admit that the food was fantastic, and the

sound of the kirtana reverberated in my memory long afterwards, along with the

words of the Maha-mantra.

I presented myself back at home three days later. By that time my mother

invented another means of bringing me back to my senses, or to the shelter of

her feet… She expelled me from home. I remember her stern figure in the doorway

and myself, standing on the stairs in my hippie dress, at midnight. Oh, how I

wanted to at least have the last word! Tell her something to which she would

find no answer! And I found: “Hare Krishna!” I blurted out and triumphantly ran

down the stairs.

If my mother hoped that I would come back next morning, contrite and

repentant, she couldn’t be more wrong. The hippies gave me shelter. Soon I left

my home town and took up university studies: psychology, because this was where

I hoped to find the meaning of life.

For the next three years my mother tried to win me back, in vain. No visits,

no letters. When she refused to pay for my education, hoping to bring me home

in this way, I sued her at court. I grew stronger, she grew weaker. I did have

my own life at last, but the memory of her remained on the bottom of my heart,

like a thorn.

Then one December evening, when I sat in my hostel room dejected, reflecting

on my existence which seemed to be leading nowhere, a boy appeared in my door

with a stack of books. This time everything was different. His words made

sense. I was ready.

Once I took up the practice of Krsna consciousness, everything gradually fell

in its proper place. “I am no longer afraid of my mother!” I discovered one

day. Soon another realization came: I have reasons to be grateful to her — for

my skills, knowledge, traits of character which she trained. Then I first met

my spiritual master; I had a wonderful talk with him, talk in English which I

knew fluently… thanks to my mother, to her effort to pay for my private

lessons, her constant urging against my protests: “Learn it, learn, you will

need it in the future!”

How strange, after so many years, to feel grateful. I felt an inner urge to

thank her. Just go show my gratitude. Give her something. But what do I have,

to give her?? And will she not throw me down the stairs? I cooked some halava,

took my Gita, prayed to Krsna and went to see her. I felt shaky on my legs when

I rang the doorbell. She opened the door and her face broke in a smile of

joyful surprise: “Oh, do come in! You haven’t been home for so long!”

While eating the half-burned halava, as I sat there amazed and overwhelmed,

she asked: “Could you please tell me something about your religion? Your sister

told me…” She listened attentively and appreciatively. “And I am so grateful to

you for my English!”

Now she is a friend of Krsna. She is happy to help me or other devotees. She

doesn’t try anymore to dictate where I should seek happiness. I am in awe of

her love and understanding, her ability to forgive and adjust. I am ashamed of

my own immaturity and cruelty in the past. Did it have to be such a “school of

hard kicks?”

In a way, I was lucky. My family war broke out before I took up Krsna

consciousness, and it was precisely Krsna consciousness that put an end to it.

The bone of contention was just a boyfriend, an ordinary life event — not a

foreign, obscure philosophy which makes youngsters secretly mumble incantations

to a picture of “some strange blue woman with a flute,” or announce to their

parents, “You are not my mother, and I am not Johnny anymore,” and find their

portrait on the pages of the Bhagavatam amongst hogs, dogs, camels and asses.

Parents are definitely a special category, but in our books we don’t find

many practical guidelines on how to deal with them. We can identify the first

oppressed and misunderstood young bhakta in the person of Prahlada Maharaja,

and call his father Hiranyakasipu the pioneer of the anticult movement, with

his allies Sanda and Amarka as the first deprogrammers - unsuccessful, like

others who were to come after them. We meet the four determined brahmacaris,

the Kumaras, who boldly refused their father Brahma when asked to beget

children. Brahma got angry, but they didn’t heed, and they are praised for

that. We can laugh at the attached Daksa who cursed Narada Muni, after the sage

diverted all of Daksa’s sons to the path of self-realization. In the purport,

Srila Prabhupada comments serenely, with a spark of humor: “Prajapati Daksa

cursed Narada Muni by saying that although he had the facility to travel all

over the universe, he would never be able to stay in one place. In

the parampara system from Narada Muni, I have also been cursed. I cannot stay

anywhere, for I have been cursed by the parents of my young disciples…” (SB

6.5.43 purp.).

In the world of the Bhagavatam, right and wrong are easy to tell apart. The

supreme obligation is to give up all material ties and set off in search of

self-realization. Nobody will send the militia to bring you back home because

you happen to be a minor. Where are the happy times of Narada and Dhruva, who

could simply set out to the forest, forever forgetting all the material

attachments, eat dry leaves (no need to ask the parents for a donation), and

within days or months have darsan with the Lord? Narada’s mother, who kept him

tied to herself with the knot of love, was removed from his path by the Lord

Himself as the serpent of time. Dhruva’s mother went straight to the spiritual

world in a Vaikuntha airplane on the strength of her son’s wonderful spiritual

achievement.

Where in the Bhagavatam are these parents who threaten to bring preachers to

courts or who harass temple presidents with complaints? What about locking the

child in a room with a cutlet, or sending him to a psychiatrist to convert him

back to the TV, free sex and cigarettes? But on the other hand, do we find in

the Bhagavatam devotees who, after years of practice, still fall asleep during

japa and class? who steal temple money? or who join, leaving wives and children

behind “like stool”, only to find a new devotee wife in a few years? Like our

parents, we have been brought up in a degraded society. By Lord Caitanya’s

extraordinary mercy, we have begun the process of devotional service even

though we were not exactly on the human level. But let us not think that we can

now become saints without first becoming humans.

Yatra after yatra, ISKCON worldwide goes through the difficult period of

struggle with the anticult movement. This seems to be like a childhood disease,

something one has to live through in order to gain lifelong immunity. And

throughout the world, there is no country where the anticult movement would be

started by someone else than dissatisfied parents. Because parents do care.

They are attached to their children, whether the latter consider it a curse or

a blessing. As one devotee put it, “Parents are persons. Persons have

relationships with other persons. And some of those persons are influential…”

It would be an over-simplification to think that the reason to learn how to

deal with our parents should be merely to avoid trouble for the movement. Pain

is usually an indication that one does something wrong. Doctors have a saying,

‘The cause is more dangerous than the effect.” Generalizing, one can say that

parents get angry because we don’t act properly. If we improve, we can gain

more than just a cease-fire. We can develop skills and values important for our

personal development.Can our dealings with our parents possibly have any impact

on our spiritual life? How about their spiritual life?

How do we see our parents? As an obstacle on the path of self- realization,

to be removed? The haunting memory of our shameful past, to be forgotten as

soon as possible?

“My dear sonny, why don’t you smoke anymore? Why don’t you watch TV, have

girlfriends, drink alcohol, and be normal?” — a mother lamented pitifully while

her son pursued a career of a bold brahmacari preacher. Years later, when he

fell in love with a fixed-up brahmacarini from his preaching team and married

her, the mother welcomed the news with tears of ecstasy: “I have been praying

so much for it!”

Or are they fallen souls heading for hell, only to be saved by our

enlightening preaching? Well, they are genuinely interested in Krsna

consciousness. In this, they differ from all the people in the street, who are

too busy to look at the book, who sweep a preacher aside with an impatient “No

time.” Even if they don’t manifest it, our parents do care. At least most of

them. They want to know “what this thing is all about.” But in preaching to

them, we face one disillusionment after another. They are not humble. Instead

of inquiring submissively, they scrutinize our motives. Trying to learn

something about our process, they will listen to anybody but us: to the

neighbors, priests, newspapers. And if they do listen to us, they stubbornly

refuse to take our words at face value. They find everything in them — but

Krsna consciousness. “Aha, so you want to be a social parasite, without

education, without job? How will you get money? What if you get sick? How will

you maintain

your future family?” Introducing to them the idea of Krsna’s mercy seems

virtually impossible.

The parents are conditioned jivas, deeply illusioned by the conception of

being our proprietors and protectors. “One who identifies his self as the inert

body composed of mucus, bile and air, who assumes his wife and family are

permanently his own…. — such a person is no better than a cow or an ass,” says

Lord Krsna (SB 10.84.13). Nevertheless, let us not be too quick to condemn our

parents’ attachment to us as maya. Srila Prabhupada said that of all the kinds

of material attachment, love of the mother for her child is purest. It most

closely resembles spiritual love, because it is most selfless.

Unfortunately, in our degraded age such wonderful, tender motherly love is

becoming rare. Pathologies spread, families break or live without harmony and

understanding. Still, we should not condemn our parents’ attachment to us. It

may become an asset in their spiritual life. Lord Kapila says: “Every learned

man knows very well that attachment for the material is the greatest

entanglement of the spirit soul. But that same attachment, when applied to the

self-realized devotees, opens the door of liberation.” (SB 3.25.20)

Even though not yet self-realized, we can help our parents. Preaching to

parents is a challenge, because we preach by what we are rather by what we say.

I used to write to parents who complained about their children’s bad behavior,

which they linked with Krsna consciousness: “Devotees of Krsna are trained to

become perfect gentlemen. If your child takes Krsna consciousness seriously,

you will see how he is gradually changing for the better. If he doesn’t, you

should understand that he is not serious about Krsna consciousness.”

A devotee must know how to relate to his parents on the spiritual platform,

but without violating the rules and traditions based on their bodily

relationship. We cannot use our relationships for preaching if we are

simultaneously acting to destroy them. As the parent-child relationship is one

of the closest, our preaching must be extremely personalized. To teach those

who consider themselves his teachers and superiors, a devotee must be adorned

with the symptoms of s sadhu, such as tolerance and genuine compassion which

helps him keep self-control in most trying situations. He must know the

scriptures, but he will be unable to present Krsna consciousness convincingly

unless his theoretical knowledge has already bore the fruit of spiritual

realization. He must know how to apply the teachings according to

desa-kala-patra. All these qualities of a powerful preacher are found on the

madhyama-adhikari platform. Kanistha-adhikari, on the contrary, is

distinguished by his lack

of knowledge of how to relate to devotees and others.

SPIRITUAL PROGRESS BEGINS WITH SRADDHA

………………………………..

There is no sadhu-sanga without sraddha (faith). In other words, our parents

will not accept our preaching unless they trust us. If they cannot understand

our behavior, motives, and values, they will not want to accept what they hear

from us. The difficulty is that they judge us according to THEIR values, which

may be very materialistic, and so they may see us as a failure as long as we

don’t pursue material goals. To evoke sraddha in the degraded society, Lord

Caitanya had to go as far as to accept Mayavadi sannyasa.

It is not advisable that we compromise our basic principles or beliefs,

however there are things we can do to help develop our parents’ sraddha. Here

are a few tips I have collected from various devotees during years of

counseling.

BE RESPECTFUL

Devotee respects all living entities, understanding that the Supreme Lord

resides in their hearts as Paramatma. Aside from that, we have special reasons

to respect our parents: raising a child requires a formidable effort. We have

an obligation to them, and before we hurry to quote the famous

“devarsi-bhutapta-nrnam-pitrnam” verse (SB 11.5.41), we should note that it

speaks about pure devotees. Those who are still materialistic, prakrta-bhaktas,

are never advised to give up carefully discharging their social duties. This is

confirmed by Srila Prabhupada in Bg. 2.38 purport, right before he quotes the

abovementioned verse:

“He who acts for his own sense gratification, either in goodness or in

passion, is subject to the reaction, good or bad. But he who has completely

surrendered himself in the activities of Krsna consciousness is no longer

obliged to anyone, nor is he a debtor to anyone, as one is in the ordinary

course of activities.”

Respecting the parents is one of the pillars of the Vedic culture. In 1966,

when Brahmananda Prabhu’s mother came to the temple for his initiation, Srila

Prabhupada asked his disciple to offer obeisances to her. He encouraged temple

devotees to write letters to parents regularly.

Our parents are much older than us and they have more experience with life.

Even if they are atheists, they may have something interesting to say. If we

see them as demons, they may become demons. In psychology, this phenomenon is

called “labeling.”

And, last but not least, there is the law of karma. The way we treat our

parents now, our children will treat us in the future. Children don’t do what

we say, they do what we do.

DON’T TAKE THE POSITION OF AN AUTHORITY

You may be eighteen or older, you may have graduated, you may have job and

even your own family. You will be considered a grown-up, mature individual,

able to “kill his own snakes,” by everyone… but your parents. As Saunaka Rsi

Prabhu put it, “Your parents remember you as a helpless baby whose napkins they

used to change. This is the vision they worship.” He told a story of an 80 year

old lady whose 60 year old son was a Christian priest. Whenever they met, she

nagged him: “Why don’t you finally get married?”

To evoke sraddha in your parents, you must act somehow consistently with

their image of you as their child. Taking a higher position and sermonizing is

certainly not what they expect of their child.

“If you don’t stop eating meat, do you know what you will become in your next

life? A pig!” - a devotee tried to convince his mother. She retorted promptly:

“Well, I may become a pig, but you are one already!”

THEY WANT TO SEE YOU SAFE

Don’t show extreme callousness toward your material situation. Even if it is

a genuine dependence on Krsna on your part (Are you sure it is not just

carelessness of the youth, or a simplified neophyte understanding of

advancement?), they will take it as a symptom of immaturity. Thus they will

worry and conclude that they still have to ensure your safety — and so they

will try to limit your freedom. Therefore if you are sick, do go see the

doctor. Make sure you eat properly. Dress properly. Sandals in winter are not

appreciated! Don’t travel without tickets or engage in risky business. Don’t

drop out from school, especially not from primary or secondary school.

Education does give some advantages. There are many years ahead of you to

realize it.

You can, however, gently preach to your parents, giving them examples of how

illusory material safety is. Best if these are examples of people they know.

THEY WANT TO SEE YOU HAPPY

Many times one can hear parents saying, “I dreamed that my son would become…

[fill in the blanks]. He didn’t. But I can see that he is happy with what he is

doing. What more can I desire?”

You are happy in the temple, with devotees. But do you ever show happiness,

optimistic attitude when you are at home with family? Do you ever tell them

stories of happy or funny events in your devotee life? There are always

incidents so simple that even nondevotees can relate to them. Share such

stories with your parents. This is also a powerful indirect preaching, because

they hear about devotional service and become acquainted with the topic in an

easy, pleasant way. Thus they lose their fear of the unknown.

THEY WANT YOU TO LOVE THEM

Every parent expects his child to show him love and gratitude. Take time to

spend with your parents, remember about their birthdays, try to please them in

various little ways. If you live away, visit them or call regularly. If the

relationship is tense, calling may be more practical.

Be firm in the basic principles of your behavior, but flexible in details.

Show understanding for their sentiments. Don’t ridicule that which they

consider their holy tradition. There may be meat and alcohol on the Christmas

table, but if you don’t agree to sit together with them, they will take it as a

personal insult. They will be too hurt to be able to look at the situation from

your point of view.

My personal experience was that when I tried to be flexible and tolerant in

details, my mother would feel guilty of her sinful habits, and she would

apologize to me. Now whenever I visit her, she hides all forbidden substances

or removes them from home. This is her way of showing respect to Krsna

consciousness, and this is in itself a kind of service.

Don’t avoid bodily contact. Especially mothers tend to be sensitive in this

regard. As their little child, you used to show affection in this way, and now

your reserve (”Don’t touch me, I’m a monk!”) can hurt them deeply.

One aspect of your loving response is being open to what they want to tell

you. If you visit them only to preach and take some money but never have time

to listen, how can you expect them to feel accepted by you? We know that a

devotee associates with the materialists in order to give them spiritual

knowledge. He should not let himself be dragged down to their mental level. But

preaching is an act of communication. And genuine communication must be

two-sided. It must be dialog. How would you feel if your spiritual master

limited himself to instructing you, without ever reading your letters or

hearing about your life? Maintaining mutual relationships with people around

us, including our parents, is not a waste of time.

If your parents are not very unfavorable, you may even try to ask their

advice sometimes (”I feel such-and-such das got offended by me, how can I clear

up the situation?”). They will feel you take them seriously and they may

surprise you with the depth of their understanding.

THEY WANT TO BE PROUD OF YOU

Perhaps your parents dreamed about another career for you. Still, you may try

to identify values which they wanted you to imbibe, and which are compatible

with Krsna consciousness (cleanliness? regulation? perseverance? honesty?).

Prove to them that you still accept these values, and that they are accepted by

ISKCON in general.

My mother always wanted me to be a good student, to have higher education,

and she especially hoped I would learn to speak English well. Therefore when I

joined, I used to tell her stories of how useful my knowledge is in my service,

of other devotees studying at my university, or how I was asked to interpret

for an important guest in the temple, and so on.

SOME FURTHER IMPORTANT POINTS

………………………..

DON’T DUMP THE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR FAMILY CONFLICTS ON ISKCON

ISKCON is not legally responsible for your conflicts with the parents. It is

a misunderstanding to think that being an ISKCON member gives one the right to

treat one’s family unfairly. If your involvement with ISKCON conflicts your

involvement in the family, this is your PERSONAL problem. Solve it as best you

can and take responsibility before your family members for the solution you

have chosen. Never dump the responsibility on ISKCON! No ISKCON authority is in

the right to instruct you to break off from the family.

Sometimes young devotees feel that running away from home and staying in the

temple will improve their Krsna consciousness and service. But such childish,

irresponsible actions bring unnecessary trouble not only to the parents and to

the devotee in case, but to the whole temple or even yatra, which will by far

overweight the value of all his service.

“The reason my parents give me trouble is that I have joined ISKCON.

Shouldn’t ISKCON give me shelter?” In most cases, family conflicts have much

deeper roots. Maybe you are a teenager searching for your place in life. Your

parents feel they are losing you, and because they are unable to accept the

fact that you are not their little child anymore, they conveniently blame

ISKCON. It is so easy to find the enemy outside. The scenario may be more

dramatic: there may have been psychological problems in your family for many

years. None of its members, including you, is ready to bring them to the

surface and work for a solution. Being a part of the problem, you may not even

be able to realize your own deeper motives in treating your family the way you

do — no matter how many verses you qoute to authorize your actions. Such cases

require professional counseling. But in any case, the responsibility is on you

— not on the temple president, nor on your guru, nor on Krsna.

TAKE PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR CHOICES AND ACTIONS

This advice, closely related witht he preceding one, puts to test our

personal maturity and integrity. It is especially important to those whose

parents are afraid that ISKCON is a sect and will do their children harm.

Amongst devotees, we often account for our actions by referring to an

authority. “My department head told me to do it. My Guru Maharaja wants his

disciples to distribute books. I cannot drink alcohol, this is forbidden. I

cannot watch TV, devotees don’t do it.”

We understand that the basis for our following the authority was our free

choice, and that we wholeheartedly agree with the instructions we follow. But

our parents may not be so sure of that. If we refer to the authority too often,

they may get an impression that we are enslaved, brainwashed, forced to undergo

austerities against our will. Therefore, when you explain your motives, point

to logic and to your free choice, not to the Vedic or ISKCON authority. “I

chant because I like it. 16 rounds a day is standard and I want to keep it.” “I

have chosen to refrain from meat eating because I have become convinced it is

better for my body and mind” (give book titles, including non-ISKCON

publications). “I have to go now because I have promised to my friend X das

that we will distribute books together today.” (not “I have to go, this is my

service”) “Excuse me, I won’t watch this film. There is so much violence in

such films.” (not “Gita says it is maya”) “I will not eat meat

anymore. I cannot stand the thought of slaughter.” (not “only nonhumans eat

meat”)

Another thing you can do to prevent notions of brainwashing etc. is to prove

that you haven’t lost criticism. If your parents criticize ISKCON and are

right, admit it. If they witnessed an incident when the devotees treated you

(or someone else) improperly, don’t try to deny it. Especially don’t do it if

your parents themselves were the victims. Maintaining respect and humility,

express your negative judgment of the particular action, and inform your

parents what you are going to do about it. Unfortunately, ISKCON is not a

society of paramahamsas. Don’t find faults, but don’t try to create an

idealized picture of our movement. Sooner or later they will realize its

falsity and lose all faith. Moreover, the same may happen to you, because

cheaters ultimately cheat themselves.

GIVE YOUR PARENTS FREEDOM TO BE WHAT THEY WANT TO BE

What if your parents don’t respond to your preaching? You should remain

respectful. Lord Krsna Himself respects the minute independence of the living

beings.

Even if our parents do not join ISKCON, by our preaching and good example

they may become less sinful, more religious. Maybe they will become better

Christians? There was a case in Perm when a girl joined Krsna consciousness and

her parents were so inspired by her choice that the father decided to become a

priest and the mother joined a monastery. If we have a sectarian vision

(”Either they join us or go to hell”), the parents will sense it and resist any

preaching. And they will be right, because such attitude proves we do not know

our own philosophy! Don’t cross them out (”They will go to hell anyway”), but

wholeheartedly give them freedom of choice. This is not a psychotechnique. You

have to work it out in your own conscience with the help of your spiritual

realization.

BE PATIENT

“My parents are hopeless! They will never change. What is the use of

associating with them?”

Try to remember your own beginning steps in Krsna consciousness. Did you

accept everything at once? You were young, curious, and you wanted to join the

movement. Your parents are older, more fixed in their ways, and above all, they

didn’t make a decision to join! How much longer does it have to take for them

to accept new ideas and make changes. But if you simply keep contact with them

and preach by your nice example, after some years wonderful things may happen.

Here is a story told by Kirtiraja Prabhu, as I remember it.

Kirtiraja Prabhu lived for many years in Sweden. He kept regular phone

contact with his mother. She never seemed favorable to his way of life. Still

he would call and simply inform her where he was and what he was doing. At one

point he was requested to go to Russia, to help the devotees. This mission was

not at all easy and safe. Before leaving, he called his mother. “I am going to

Russia,” he said, anticipating her nervous reaction. “The devotees there need

help.” “Oh yes, you have to go there, carry out this mission” answered she. He

was so surprised that he exclaimed: “Aren’t you afraid something may happen to

me?!” “Lord Krishna will protect you” - came the answer.

INTROSPECT AND EXAMINE YOUR MOTIVES

Most of us are not completely pure. It is difficult to see one’s own

anarthas. But judging from the absence of ecstatic symptoms, we must still have

impure motives. It is good to reflect sometimes: “Why do I want to be in

ISKCON? Is it so because I only want spiritual life? Or maybe I want to get

away from my family, school and other responsibilities. Maybe I am just

attracted by the exotic lifestyle. Or maybe the philosophy gives me a pretext

to break my personal relationships, because somehow I cannot make them

successful? Maybe I want to be a great devotee, a powerful renunciant worshiped

by the general populace? Do I preach to my parents because I want to help them,

or because I want to hurt them, in revenge for all the bad things they are

doing to me?”

Such introspection may make you more humble and sensitive to the others’

needs. It it a condition of your self-improvement.

SEEK QUALIFIED HELP

The progression of Kali-yuga is marked, amongst other symptoms, by

degradation of family life. There may be problems in your family which are

impossible to solve with usual methods. Your parents may be alcoholics,

criminals, or they may have a mental disease. In such cases, seek professional

help, ideally from a senior devotee who has experience and some education in

this direction. Seeking advice of an authority is always good. At least keep

your authorities informed about the situation. If you leave, let it be a

well-thought and consulted choice.

CONCLUSION

……….

Home is the place from where we start our journey in life. Krsna

consciousness is the most important journey. Therefore let us be careful about

how we make first steps. Sooner or later, we leave our parents behind. But

whether we will leave them satisfied and eager to give us blessings, or the

opposite: angry, fearful, frustrated — may have a great impact on our journey.

if your parents criticize ISKOCN,that may be because they feel they are

losing their children. Family problems - finding the cause outside of the

family, far away from themselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

CHANT HARE KRISHNA HARE KRISHNA KRISHNA KRISHNA HARE HARE

HARE RAMA HARE RAMA RAMA RAMA HARE HARE AND BE HAPPY

Your humble servant

radhabhava gaur das

 

 

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