Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Prafulla, well said and this must be the norm for anyone to make a comment on any subject unless he has studied, worked on it must not post such pieces. and when they do they must provide proof of it and and alternatives if they feel there is one with proof. In the West say US u can be in Jail for giving improper or false predictions some do take cover under temples or charities or even a disclaimer, but the fear is there here we get away with anything leave alone astrology all walks of life, our legal frame work and justice dispensing system r awful with archival laws and methods still from British raj days and addition being politician +criminals nexus.. ON ASTROLOGICAL PRINCIPLES PEOPLE MUST STUDY A FEW CONCEPTS, ICAS, Bharatiya vidya Bhavan and many astro bodies teach well, else they can learn under some guidance and then come into the open world, with an OPEN MIND and test their skills add new ones along the way we learn by the day. anyone saying have have mastered it may be stuck in quick sand. Prafulla Gang <jyotish (AT) inbox (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji Not only this divine profession, any other profession also warrants humble and kinder approach. In this divine subject, since there is no legal framework for jyotishi (no minimum education/experience required, unlike most other professional pursuits), the self regulation becomes very critical. Jyotishi (any branch) has much more responsility towards society and native in specific. His advise decides the course of action for a native, in so many sensitive decision making. regards / Prafulla Gang Lincoln studied by the light of a fireplace. Mozart composed by candlelight. Galileo invented by oil lamp. Didn't they ever think to do their work during the daytime? > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:30:29 -0000 > > Re: MEANINGLESS TRADITIONS ? > > Dear Prafullji, > > Some code of ethics has to be adhered to, for a astrologer while > replying to natives, as also addressing a great subject like this > Divine science of Jyotish. Unfortunately 1-2 years study of books > does not maketh a person a astrologer. Positive thinking,no bias, > respect, humbleness,acknowledgement of own mistakes,inclination > of search for knowledge not learnt before from seniors or texts, > and basically a good human being with a expansive loving heart, > yearning to help all who come in his path, these have to be > hallmarks for a good astrologer, > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji >> >> Ashtakvarga works very well. In fact, there is specific forum > dedicated to it, where case studies are best possible proof of its > applicabiity. Dear Ash can elaborate more on it. >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> Lincoln studied by the light of a fireplace. Mozart composed by > candlelight. Galileo invented by oil lamp. Didn't they ever think to > do their work during the daytime? >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:39:31 -0000 >>> >>> MEANINGLESS TRADITIONS ? >>> >>> Dear All, >>> >>> I have read one of our members posting on some another Forum >>> wherein he has mentioned that ashtakvarga and sadesati are all >>> meaningless traditions. Since I did not want to offend him on that >>> group (and neither here also),I request him to explain the > meaning of >>> this,Because when other education we receive from ParasharMaharaj > we >>> use to our advantage commercially and also gain respect by using > this >>> education. But same Parashar Maharaj who taught Ashtakvarga too, >>> we ban that unceremoniously . Why ? Is it because this member does >>> not know how to use this technique having not studied it > properly, or >>> did he found this technique uselss after applying it to at least > 1000 >>> horoscopes and then formed a decesion ? >>> Please enlighten because when we being Indians write about our own >>> Rishi-Munis teachings as meaningless to foreigners, then what is >>> the world going to respect ? >>> I have succesfully used, Ashtakvarga for transits, and found >>> it to be highly helpful. >>> Also any smart astrologer can just see the Saravashtakvarga >>> chart in absence of Kundli and tell about whole life of native, >>> when what is going to happen, and which department of his life is >>> weak or strong and when going to give results. >>> So please clarify.I am not giving name of member,let him himself >>> clarify. >>> >>> Bhaskar. >> Prashantkumar G B -*- The services of this astrologer are free on group but off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone. Please fix times for this in advance -*- 09840051861 Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 dear friends in one county in USA, foretelling is banned and is a crime there. as suggested by kumarji, all astrologers must give a disclaimer that what all predictions are made by him or her are based on his understanding and there is no guarantee for these predictions coming true. i have not seen or heard a single astrologer till date whose predictions are 100% true in all cases. however, in public groups where readings and predictions are given on charity or for improving the predictive skills, querents are aware that free readings have their own limitations. however, for professional readings when the querents pay a dakshina or fees, there must be disclaimers. on my part i tell all my customers thast astrology is only of the future predictive tools and present karma theory, present blessings/curses and present evil/abhichara also have their own play. since birth chart represents the account statement as on that date, in professional consultancies we also do prashna chart to verify the birth chart and present things and also do various checkings through other systems and then come to a cohesive prediction. these free astrology groups are like charity astrology forums where querents come for free readings or astro students come for free lessons. when a person visit a one room charity hospital in a temple or gurudwara where the doctor comes once in a week to check and distribute free medicines, you cannot expect those doctors to provide multi speciality treatments or best medicines for which the patients have to approach a hospital paying its fees. however, one exception is the incredible lone super speciality hospital in the world at puttaparti in andhra pradesh where bhagawan satya saibaba offers salaries, food, clothing and shelter to all doctors working there and NOT A SINGLE RUPEE IS CHARGED FROM THE PATIENT. i heard many doctors have gone there fulltime doing free services for the rest of their lives. we have NGOs for counselling on dowry, child abuses, women in distress, aids and other physical and mental problems and it is hightime NGOs expand their services into astro services to provide free services along with remedies. with best wishes pandit arjun (the only one certain thing that is a must for all humans is death, yet a human strives to live as if he/she has no death. this is the answer to a query from yaksha with which yudhisthara saved his brothers' lives) , Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote: > > Prafulla, > well said and this must be the norm for anyone to make a comment on any subject unless he has studied, worked on it must not post such pieces. and when they do they must provide proof of it and and alternatives if they feel there is one with proof. > > In the West say US u can be in Jail for giving improper or false predictions some do take cover under temples or charities or even a disclaimer, but the fear is there here we get away with anything leave alone astrology all walks of life, our legal frame work and justice dispensing system r awful with archival laws and methods still from British raj days and addition being politician +criminals nexus.. > > ON ASTROLOGICAL PRINCIPLES PEOPLE MUST STUDY A FEW CONCEPTS, ICAS, Bharatiya vidya Bhavan and many astro bodies teach well, else they can learn under some guidance and then come into the open world, with an OPEN MIND and test their skills add new ones along the way we learn by the day. anyone saying have have mastered it may be stuck in quick sand. > > > > Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji > > Not only this divine profession, any other profession also warrants humble and kinder approach. In this divine subject, since there is no legal framework for jyotishi (no minimum education/experience required, unlike most other professional pursuits), the self regulation becomes very critical. Jyotishi (any branch) has much more responsility towards society and native in specific. His advise decides the course of action for a native, in so many sensitive decision making. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Lincoln studied by the light of a fireplace. Mozart composed by candlelight. Galileo invented by oil lamp. Didn't they ever think to do their work during the daytime? > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Tue, 01 Aug 2006 11:30:29 -0000 > > > > Re: MEANINGLESS TRADITIONS ? > > > > Dear Prafullji, > > > > Some code of ethics has to be adhered to, for a astrologer while > > replying to natives, as also addressing a great subject like this > > Divine science of Jyotish. Unfortunately 1-2 years study of books > > does not maketh a person a astrologer. Positive thinking,no bias, > > respect, humbleness,acknowledgement of own mistakes,inclination > > of search for knowledge not learnt before from seniors or texts, > > and basically a good human being with a expansive loving heart, > > yearning to help all who come in his path, these have to be > > hallmarks for a good astrologer, > > > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish@> > > wrote: > >> > >> Dear Bhaskar ji > >> > >> Ashtakvarga works very well. In fact, there is specific forum > > dedicated to it, where case studies are best possible proof of its > > applicabiity. Dear Ash can elaborate more on it. > >> > >> regards / Prafulla Gang > >> > >> Lincoln studied by the light of a fireplace. Mozart composed by > > candlelight. Galileo invented by oil lamp. Didn't they ever think to > > do their work during the daytime? > >> > >> > >>> > >>> bhaskar_jyotish@ > >>> Tue, 01 Aug 2006 09:39:31 -0000 > >>> > >>> MEANINGLESS TRADITIONS ? > >>> > >>> Dear All, > >>> > >>> I have read one of our members posting on some another Forum > >>> wherein he has mentioned that ashtakvarga and sadesati are all > >>> meaningless traditions. Since I did not want to offend him on that > >>> group (and neither here also),I request him to explain the > > meaning of > >>> this,Because when other education we receive from ParasharMaharaj > > we > >>> use to our advantage commercially and also gain respect by using > > this > >>> education. But same Parashar Maharaj who taught Ashtakvarga too, > >>> we ban that unceremoniously . Why ? Is it because this member does > >>> not know how to use this technique having not studied it > > properly, or > >>> did he found this technique uselss after applying it to at least > > 1000 > >>> horoscopes and then formed a decesion ? > >>> Please enlighten because when we being Indians write about our own > >>> Rishi-Munis teachings as meaningless to foreigners, then what is > >>> the world going to respect ? > >>> I have succesfully used, Ashtakvarga for transits, and found > >>> it to be highly helpful. > >>> Also any smart astrologer can just see the Saravashtakvarga > >>> chart in absence of Kundli and tell about whole life of native, > >>> when what is going to happen, and which department of his life is > >>> weak or strong and when going to give results. > >>> So please clarify.I am not giving name of member,let him himself > >>> clarify. > >>> > >>> Bhaskar. > >> > > > > > > Prashantkumar G B > > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on group but > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone. > Please fix times for this in advance -*- > 09840051861 > > > > > > Messenger with Voice. 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