Visti can you answer ...Marriage in trouble

[Guest guest]

Hare Rama Krishna

Dearest Visti,

CAn you please tell me more about this

" you said " First some more timing; Your navamsa will reveal the

times when your husband leaves and when he comes back."

 

I'd like to know how to use Navamsa for timing seperations verses

divorce etc.

thank-you

Lakshmi

 

 

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti

wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Newbee, Namaskar

>

> Your seventh lord is placed in the sixth house, this causes alot of

> seperation between you and your partner, and being that Venus is

also your

> atmakaraka it becomes all the more important, and you will blame

yourself

> for much of the troubles in the relationship.

>

> The sixth lord - Mercury, is furthermore in the fifth house which

is an

> unwanted placement giving you an unconcious tendency to reject

your husband

> through actions and choice of words. This would not be a major

issue had it

> not been involved in a curse caused by Sun and Saturns

conjunction/aspect on

> Mercury. Since Mercury lords the Upapada itself we can understand

that this

> was the cause of a slightly delayed marriage, and is also the

cause of the

> marital problems in general. To remedy this you need mantra.

>

>

>

> First some more timing;

>

> Your navamsa will reveal the times when your husband leaves and

when he

> comes back. Here the focus is on the eighth house and here we have

Jupiter

> (childbirth/wealth) and Ketu (Growth/expansion of family). Hence

during the

> times of childbirth or times when major family issues arise or when

> financial problems arise, your husband would be prompted to leave

the home.

>

> The eighth lord itself is Mars who is in a parivartana with

Saturn, thus

> empowering them both to give the results of the eighth house and

seperation

> from you.

>

> The seventh house is lorded by Venus and will bring the spouse

back home.

>

> Using Dvisaptati sama dasa (applicable in your chart)

>

> Jupiter-Mars (07/2002 - 8/2003) Your husband left you the first

time.

>

> Venus-Venus (10/2004 - 11/2005) Your husband came back.

>

> Venus-Saturn (11/2005 - 01/2007) Your husband left the second time.

>

> He will be back after this period in Venus-Rahu, but i don't think

> permanently.

>

>

>

> To remedy the soul-level problem and also any eventual health

problems which

> can potentially arise, you must worship Tryambakeshvara. Now,

there is a

> specific Tryambaka mantra given in the Yajur Veda (Black-Yajur

Veda,

> Katha-Grhya Sutra, sloka 37) for the purpose of bringing home and

supporting

> the spouse. The mantra is:

>

>

>

> tryambakaM yajaamahe sugandhiM patipoShaNam|

>

> urvaarukamiva bandhanaanmrtyor mukShiiya maamuShya grhebhyaH||

>

>

>

> Please begin this from a Monday and reciting it 108 times in the

morning.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of icymaiden2000

> 31 July 2006 01:58

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Pls help...Marriage in trouble

>

>

>

> Dear learned friends,

>

> I am new here.

>

> My husband left me 2 months ago, for the second time. We were

> married in April 2001 and our daughter was born in October 2002.

> Shortly after that, husband left us in January 2003 and we were

> reunited in June/July 2005, but he was barely with me for a year

and

> has left us again. I do not know where he is now (India/abroad).

He

> is currently going through the first phase of sade sadi (Leo

> moonsign) and had lot of troubles with his career when he was with

> me for the last year.

>

> Our details are as follows:

>

> Self: 4 September 1965, Chennai, 8:37 pm

>

> Husband: 24 August 1968, Bhopal, 10:10 am

>

>

> Ours was a love marriage. Later astrologers told us that our

> horoscopes didn't match well and accordingly we did have problems.

>

> Please note that we were reunited the first time while his sade

sati

> was going on (It started in September 2004 and we were reunited in

> June/July 2005).

>

> The second phase of his sade sati would start sometime in November

> this year I think. Will that be more hard on him? Will it make him

> realise that he is neglecting his duties towards his daughter?

>

> I am also going through ashtaka shani (Saggitarius moon sign).

>

> Can you please shed some light on why are we being separated time

> and again and when will be reunited again, hopefully this time

> forever.

>

> Thank you a lot.

>

> Newbee

>

[Guest guest]

||Hare Rama Krsna||

 

Dear Lakshmi, Namaskar

 

Its quite simple. The seventh house indicates when you will meet the partner

and the eighth shows when you will be seperated from that partner. Similarly

see the second and third houses for the second spouse, and so on.

 

Best wishes,

 

***

 

Visti Larsen

 

For services and articles visit:

 

<http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

 

***

 

_____

 

[] On

Behalf Of lakshmikary

01 August 2006 16:10

 

[Om Krishna Guru] Visti can you answer ...Marriage in trouble

 

 

 

Hare Rama Krishna

Dearest Visti,

CAn you please tell me more about this

" you said " First some more timing; Your navamsa will reveal the

times when your husband leaves and when he comes back."

 

I'd like to know how to use Navamsa for timing seperations verses

divorce etc.

thank-you

Lakshmi

 

@ <%40>

, "Visti Larsen" <visti

wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Newbee, Namaskar

>

> Your seventh lord is placed in the sixth house, this causes alot of

> seperation between you and your partner, and being that Venus is

also your

> atmakaraka it becomes all the more important, and you will blame

yourself

> for much of the troubles in the relationship.

>

> The sixth lord - Mercury, is furthermore in the fifth house which

is an

> unwanted placement giving you an unconcious tendency to reject

your husband

> through actions and choice of words. This would not be a major

issue had it

> not been involved in a curse caused by Sun and Saturns

conjunction/aspect on

> Mercury. Since Mercury lords the Upapada itself we can understand

that this

> was the cause of a slightly delayed marriage, and is also the

cause of the

> marital problems in general. To remedy this you need mantra.

>

>

>

> First some more timing;

>

> Your navamsa will reveal the times when your husband leaves and

when he

> comes back. Here the focus is on the eighth house and here we have

Jupiter

> (childbirth/wealth) and Ketu (Growth/expansion of family). Hence

during the

> times of childbirth or times when major family issues arise or when

> financial problems arise, your husband would be prompted to leave

the home.

>

> The eighth lord itself is Mars who is in a parivartana with

Saturn, thus

> empowering them both to give the results of the eighth house and

seperation

> from you.

>

> The seventh house is lorded by Venus and will bring the spouse

back home.

>

> Using Dvisaptati sama dasa (applicable in your chart)

>

> Jupiter-Mars (07/2002 - 8/2003) Your husband left you the first

time.

>

> Venus-Venus (10/2004 - 11/2005) Your husband came back.

>

> Venus-Saturn (11/2005 - 01/2007) Your husband left the second time.

>

> He will be back after this period in Venus-Rahu, but i don't think

> permanently.

>

>

>

> To remedy the soul-level problem and also any eventual health

problems which

> can potentially arise, you must worship Tryambakeshvara. Now,

there is a

> specific Tryambaka mantra given in the Yajur Veda (Black-Yajur

Veda,

> Katha-Grhya Sutra, sloka 37) for the purpose of bringing home and

supporting

> the spouse. The mantra is:

>

>

>

> tryambakaM yajaamahe sugandhiM patipoShaNam|

>

> urvaarukamiva bandhanaanmrtyor mukShiiya maamuShya grhebhyaH||

>

>

>

> Please begin this from a Monday and reciting it 108 times in the

morning.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com> http://srigaruda.

<http://srigaruda.com> com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

> @ <%40>

 

[@ <%40>

] On

> Behalf Of icymaiden2000

> 31 July 2006 01:58

> @ <%40>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Pls help...Marriage in trouble

>

>

>

> Dear learned friends,

>

> I am new here.

>

> My husband left me 2 months ago, for the second time. We were

> married in April 2001 and our daughter was born in October 2002.

> Shortly after that, husband left us in January 2003 and we were

> reunited in June/July 2005, but he was barely with me for a year

and

> has left us again. I do not know where he is now (India/abroad).

He

> is currently going through the first phase of sade sadi (Leo

> moonsign) and had lot of troubles with his career when he was with

> me for the last year.

>

> Our details are as follows:

>

> Self: 4 September 1965, Chennai, 8:37 pm

>

> Husband: 24 August 1968, Bhopal, 10:10 am

>

>

> Ours was a love marriage. Later astrologers told us that our

> horoscopes didn't match well and accordingly we did have problems.

>

> Please note that we were reunited the first time while his sade

sati

> was going on (It started in September 2004 and we were reunited in

> June/July 2005).

>

> The second phase of his sade sati would start sometime in November

> this year I think. Will that be more hard on him? Will it make him

> realise that he is neglecting his duties towards his daughter?

>

> I am also going through ashtaka shani (Saggitarius moon sign).

>

> Can you please shed some light on why are we being separated time

> and again and when will be reunited again, hopefully this time

> forever.

>

> Thank you a lot.

>

> Newbee

>

[Guest guest]

Hare Krishna

Dear Visti,

Often I see Saturn transiting over navamsa lagna when people are

making divorce.

But , i was curious what indicates a seperation- where they live

seperately for sometimes many years before getting a divorce and in

some cases, returning to the spouse.

I often get questions like this,,, " my wife/husband moved out ,

left me , when will they return? , or when will they divorce me? etc.

Do you have any charts with accurate times dipicting such events I

can study?

I need to learn to tell a better difference between just seperation,

and seperation as in a legal divorce.

2) Another issue, although a delicate one. How can we see HOW LONG a

marriage will last?I mean timing of it as an event.

 

let us use my chart as an example. I was married in Jupiter/ Venus

and Jupiter was transiting th 7th house in navamsa and 5th house in

rasi.

How could an astrologer tell me when my marriage would end? ie how

to tell the length of a marriage.?

 

thank-you,

Lakshmi

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti

wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Lakshmi, Namaskar

>

> Its quite simple. The seventh house indicates when you will meet

the partner

> and the eighth shows when you will be seperated from that partner.

Similarly

> see the second and third houses for the second spouse, and so on.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of lakshmikary

> 01 August 2006 16:10

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Visti can you answer ...Marriage in

trouble

>

>

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

> Dearest Visti,

> CAn you please tell me more about this

> " you said " First some more timing; Your navamsa will reveal the

> times when your husband leaves and when he comes back."

>

> I'd like to know how to use Navamsa for timing seperations verses

> divorce etc.

> thank-you

> Lakshmi

>

> @ <%40>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@>

> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Newbee, Namaskar

> >

> > Your seventh lord is placed in the sixth house, this causes alot

of

> > seperation between you and your partner, and being that Venus is

> also your

> > atmakaraka it becomes all the more important, and you will blame

> yourself

> > for much of the troubles in the relationship.

> >

> > The sixth lord - Mercury, is furthermore in the fifth house

which

> is an

> > unwanted placement giving you an unconcious tendency to reject

> your husband

> > through actions and choice of words. This would not be a major

> issue had it

> > not been involved in a curse caused by Sun and Saturns

> conjunction/aspect on

> > Mercury. Since Mercury lords the Upapada itself we can

understand

> that this

> > was the cause of a slightly delayed marriage, and is also the

> cause of the

> > marital problems in general. To remedy this you need mantra.

> >

> >

> >

> > First some more timing;

> >

> > Your navamsa will reveal the times when your husband leaves and

> when he

> > comes back. Here the focus is on the eighth house and here we

have

> Jupiter

> > (childbirth/wealth) and Ketu (Growth/expansion of family). Hence

> during the

> > times of childbirth or times when major family issues arise or

when

> > financial problems arise, your husband would be prompted to

leave

> the home.

> >

> > The eighth lord itself is Mars who is in a parivartana with

> Saturn, thus

> > empowering them both to give the results of the eighth house and

> seperation

> > from you.

> >

> > The seventh house is lorded by Venus and will bring the spouse

> back home.

> >

> > Using Dvisaptati sama dasa (applicable in your chart)

> >

> > Jupiter-Mars (07/2002 - 8/2003) Your husband left you the first

> time.

> >

> > Venus-Venus (10/2004 - 11/2005) Your husband came back.

> >

> > Venus-Saturn (11/2005 - 01/2007) Your husband left the second

time.

> >

> > He will be back after this period in Venus-Rahu, but i don't

think

> > permanently.

> >

> >

> >

> > To remedy the soul-level problem and also any eventual health

> problems which

> > can potentially arise, you must worship Tryambakeshvara. Now,

> there is a

> > specific Tryambaka mantra given in the Yajur Veda (Black-Yajur

> Veda,

> > Katha-Grhya Sutra, sloka 37) for the purpose of bringing home

and

> supporting

> > the spouse. The mantra is:

> >

> >

> >

> > tryambakaM yajaamahe sugandhiM patipoShaNam|

> >

> > urvaarukamiva bandhanaanmrtyor mukShiiya maamuShya grhebhyaH||

> >

> >

> >

> > Please begin this from a Monday and reciting it 108 times in the

> morning.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com> http://srigaruda.

> <http://srigaruda.com> com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> > @ <%40>

>

> [@ <%40>

> ] On

> > Behalf Of icymaiden2000

> > 31 July 2006 01:58

> > @ <%40>

 

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Pls help...Marriage in trouble

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear learned friends,

> >

> > I am new here.

> >

> > My husband left me 2 months ago, for the second time. We were

> > married in April 2001 and our daughter was born in October 2002.

> > Shortly after that, husband left us in January 2003 and we were

> > reunited in June/July 2005, but he was barely with me for a year

> and

> > has left us again. I do not know where he is now (India/abroad).

> He

> > is currently going through the first phase of sade sadi (Leo

> > moonsign) and had lot of troubles with his career when he was

with

> > me for the last year.

> >

> > Our details are as follows:

> >

> > Self: 4 September 1965, Chennai, 8:37 pm

> >

> > Husband: 24 August 1968, Bhopal, 10:10 am

> >

> >

> > Ours was a love marriage. Later astrologers told us that our

> > horoscopes didn't match well and accordingly we did have

problems.

> >

> > Please note that we were reunited the first time while his sade

> sati

> > was going on (It started in September 2004 and we were reunited

in

> > June/July 2005).

> >

> > The second phase of his sade sati would start sometime in

November

> > this year I think. Will that be more hard on him? Will it make

him

> > realise that he is neglecting his duties towards his daughter?

> >

> > I am also going through ashtaka shani (Saggitarius moon sign).

> >

> > Can you please shed some light on why are we being separated

time

> > and again and when will be reunited again, hopefully this time

> > forever.

> >

> > Thank you a lot.

> >

> > Newbee

> >

>

[Guest guest]

||Hare Rama Krsna||

 

Dear Lakshmi, Namaskar

 

Upapada indicates the marriage, whilst the houses in navamsa indicate the

physical sambandha. Upapada can break before the spouse leaves the house, or

after. This all depends on the upapada vs. navamsa.

 

I didn't save all the charts where these incidents happened, but i can

recommend listening to the Audios on Navamsa from the US conferences in

2004, where Guruji actually explained all this with a few charts. Also you

can draw more understanding from the chart i analyzed for Icemaiden.

 

 

 

As for length of marriage, in many cases the transit of saturn over, or

aspecting the upapada by graha dristi in his transit, tends to shake up the

marriage, and if the marriage is a weak one, then divorce is very likely.

But, i have not studied this in detail. Maybe in the future. What do you

say?

 

Best wishes,

 

***

 

Visti Larsen

 

For services and articles visit:

 

<http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

 

***

 

_____

 

[] On

Behalf Of lakshmikary

01 August 2006 23:04

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Visti can you answer ...Marriage in trouble

 

 

 

Hare Krishna

Dear Visti,

Often I see Saturn transiting over navamsa lagna when people are

making divorce.

But , i was curious what indicates a seperation- where they live

seperately for sometimes many years before getting a divorce and in

some cases, returning to the spouse.

I often get questions like this,,, " my wife/husband moved out ,

left me , when will they return? , or when will they divorce me? etc.

Do you have any charts with accurate times dipicting such events I

can study?

I need to learn to tell a better difference between just seperation,

and seperation as in a legal divorce.

2) Another issue, although a delicate one. How can we see HOW LONG a

marriage will last?I mean timing of it as an event.

 

let us use my chart as an example. I was married in Jupiter/ Venus

and Jupiter was transiting th 7th house in navamsa and 5th house in

rasi.

How could an astrologer tell me when my marriage would end? ie how

to tell the length of a marriage.?

 

thank-you,

Lakshmi

 

@ <%40>

, "Visti Larsen" <visti

wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Lakshmi, Namaskar

>

> Its quite simple. The seventh house indicates when you will meet

the partner

> and the eighth shows when you will be seperated from that partner.

Similarly

> see the second and third houses for the second spouse, and so on.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com> http://srigaruda.

<http://srigaruda.com> com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

> @ <%40>

 

[@ <%40>

] On

> Behalf Of lakshmikary

> 01 August 2006 16:10

> @ <%40>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Visti can you answer ...Marriage in

trouble

>

>

>

> Hare Rama Krishna

> Dearest Visti,

> CAn you please tell me more about this

> " you said " First some more timing; Your navamsa will reveal the

> times when your husband leaves and when he comes back."

>

> I'd like to know how to use Navamsa for timing seperations verses

> divorce etc.

> thank-you

> Lakshmi

>

> @ <%40>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@>

> wrote:

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Newbee, Namaskar

> >

> > Your seventh lord is placed in the sixth house, this causes alot

of

> > seperation between you and your partner, and being that Venus is

> also your

> > atmakaraka it becomes all the more important, and you will blame

> yourself

> > for much of the troubles in the relationship.

> >

> > The sixth lord - Mercury, is furthermore in the fifth house

which

> is an

> > unwanted placement giving you an unconcious tendency to reject

> your husband

> > through actions and choice of words. This would not be a major

> issue had it

> > not been involved in a curse caused by Sun and Saturns

> conjunction/aspect on

> > Mercury. Since Mercury lords the Upapada itself we can

understand

> that this

> > was the cause of a slightly delayed marriage, and is also the

> cause of the

> > marital problems in general. To remedy this you need mantra.

> >

> >

> >

> > First some more timing;

> >

> > Your navamsa will reveal the times when your husband leaves and

> when he

> > comes back. Here the focus is on the eighth house and here we

have

> Jupiter

> > (childbirth/wealth) and Ketu (Growth/expansion of family). Hence

> during the

> > times of childbirth or times when major family issues arise or

when

> > financial problems arise, your husband would be prompted to

leave

> the home.

> >

> > The eighth lord itself is Mars who is in a parivartana with

> Saturn, thus

> > empowering them both to give the results of the eighth house and

> seperation

> > from you.

> >

> > The seventh house is lorded by Venus and will bring the spouse

> back home.

> >

> > Using Dvisaptati sama dasa (applicable in your chart)

> >

> > Jupiter-Mars (07/2002 - 8/2003) Your husband left you the first

> time.

> >

> > Venus-Venus (10/2004 - 11/2005) Your husband came back.

> >

> > Venus-Saturn (11/2005 - 01/2007) Your husband left the second

time.

> >

> > He will be back after this period in Venus-Rahu, but i don't

think

> > permanently.

> >

> >

> >

> > To remedy the soul-level problem and also any eventual health

> problems which

> > can potentially arise, you must worship Tryambakeshvara. Now,

> there is a

> > specific Tryambaka mantra given in the Yajur Veda (Black-Yajur

> Veda,

> > Katha-Grhya Sutra, sloka 37) for the purpose of bringing home

and

> supporting

> > the spouse. The mantra is:

> >

> >

> >

> > tryambakaM yajaamahe sugandhiM patipoShaNam|

> >

> > urvaarukamiva bandhanaanmrtyor mukShiiya maamuShya grhebhyaH||

> >

> >

> >

> > Please begin this from a Monday and reciting it 108 times in the

> morning.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> > <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com> com>

http://srigaruda.

> <http://srigaruda. <http://srigaruda.com> com> com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> > @ <%40>

>

> [@ <%40>

> ] On

> > Behalf Of icymaiden2000

> > 31 July 2006 01:58

> > @ <%40>

 

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Pls help...Marriage in trouble

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear learned friends,

> >

> > I am new here.

> >

> > My husband left me 2 months ago, for the second time. We were

> > married in April 2001 and our daughter was born in October 2002.

> > Shortly after that, husband left us in January 2003 and we were

> > reunited in June/July 2005, but he was barely with me for a year

> and

> > has left us again. I do not know where he is now (India/abroad).

> He

> > is currently going through the first phase of sade sadi (Leo

> > moonsign) and had lot of troubles with his career when he was

with

> > me for the last year.

> >

> > Our details are as follows:

> >

> > Self: 4 September 1965, Chennai, 8:37 pm

> >

> > Husband: 24 August 1968, Bhopal, 10:10 am

> >

> >

> > Ours was a love marriage. Later astrologers told us that our

> > horoscopes didn't match well and accordingly we did have

problems.

> >

> > Please note that we were reunited the first time while his sade

> sati

> > was going on (It started in September 2004 and we were reunited

in

> > June/July 2005).

> >

> > The second phase of his sade sati would start sometime in

November

> > this year I think. Will that be more hard on him? Will it make

him

> > realise that he is neglecting his duties towards his daughter?

> >

> > I am also going through ashtaka shani (Saggitarius moon sign).

> >

> > Can you please shed some light on why are we being separated

time

> > and again and when will be reunited again, hopefully this time

> > forever.

> >

> > Thank you a lot.

> >

> > Newbee

> >

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