Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Baaki Bhai Log, Seniors,Juniors,astrologers, Today he is not in a mood to sleep. Because he is a man of God, whatever his ways,I am not being harsh.I think now I will bypass all his mails. Waise bhi akela pad gaya hoon. Taakat bahut hai, isse bahas karne ki,magar akela hoon to lagta hai kahin main galat toh nahin hoon. What do You suggest ? Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji aap akela nahin hein. par kya karein, bahas karena ka mood nahin hai. regards / Prafulla Gang Lincoln studied by the light of a fireplace. Mozart composed by candlelight.. Galileo invented by oil lamp. Didn't they ever think to do their work during the daytime? > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:55:19 -0000 > > IDOL WORSHIP > > Baaki Bhai Log, Seniors,Juniors,astrologers, > > Today he is not in a mood to sleep. Because he is a man of God, > whatever his ways,I am not being harsh.I think now I will bypass all > his mails. Waise bhi akela pad gaya hoon. Taakat bahut hai, > isse bahas karne ki,magar akela hoon to lagta hai kahin main > galat toh nahin hoon. > What do You suggest ? > > Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Dear Prafullji. Dhanyawaad. Ab koi fikar nahin. Hamne bahas hi khatm kar di. Maine kaha tha pahle yeh is bhale admi ka kaam hai,jaan bujh kar nahin kar raha.Magar jaise Prashantji ne kaha unnecessary weak minds par galat asar hota hai, isliye apna farj samajh kar bol diye.Khair raat gayi baat gayi.Kam se kam Prashantji ki chithi padhne ka anand aaya, main janta hoon ke unse galat bardasht nahin hota, mere unke vichaar kafi milte hain. regards, Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > aap akela nahin hein. par kya karein, bahas karena ka mood nahin hai. > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > Lincoln studied by the light of a fireplace. Mozart composed by candlelight. Galileo invented by oil lamp. Didn't they ever think to do their work during the daytime? > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Tue, 01 Aug 2006 17:55:19 -0000 > > > > IDOL WORSHIP > > > > Baaki Bhai Log, Seniors,Juniors,astrologers, > > > > Today he is not in a mood to sleep. Because he is a man of God, > > whatever his ways,I am not being harsh.I think now I will bypass all > > his mails. Waise bhi akela pad gaya hoon. Taakat bahut hai, > > isse bahas karne ki,magar akela hoon to lagta hai kahin main > > galat toh nahin hoon. > > What do You suggest ? > > > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2006 Report Share Posted August 1, 2006 Dear Bharat Bhai, Namaste. I enjoyed that line so much that I laughed silently but body was shaking and my son who was trying to sleep saw me laughing and questioned me about it. Which line ? You wrote..... Instead, he will argue and write 10 pages of email..... You are absolutely right. His long sermons I had enough, and so does his never ending arguments. But let him play, just like You allow a small child to play in the room, who cannot do much mischief. We will try not to reply him and ignore instead as a small childs affectionate pranks. By the way I am still smiling at Your line. Regards, Bhaskar. , "Bharat Hindu Astrology" <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaskaar Sri Bhaskar > > You have wonderful understanding of the subject. Try not to change this > gentleman to your wisdom. He does not listen to anyone here. Instead, he > will argue and write 10 pages of email. You would only waste your time and > energy. > > Remember - "Those in "vidya" are in greater darkness" - Isha Upanishad. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat > > On 8/1/06, bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > At times You are quoting Vedas, at times, The Gita, at times You are > > saying that Shankara said so, at times You are saying Krishna said so. > > But unfortunately You are not ableto synchronise all this to a common > > statement made by You. You have made a tasteless khichdi in that > > process. > > I have also seen Your Website, sorry to say but You talk about small > > cateogory devotees worshipping photos and statues. Then why have You > > been so enjoyful in placing one Human being in different dresses and > > showed him as avataras. Why are so many photos placed,for attracting > > small devotees ? To get finance or funding for distortion of the > > great scriptures ? You talk about statues and photo and yourself > > doing drama. > > I am sorry with due respect to that gentleman and to You too as You > > are the ansha of HIM only and not seperate, but your philosphies are > > totally misplaced. > > Talk about RajYoga only when You have crossed Bhakti Yoga. Dear > > You are not talking to some roadside fellow now, You are talking with > > a person who is well read., and again a devotee of God. > > But again, dont waste my time by unnecessary arguments, as my daily > > food and expenses is not funded by donations attracted by posting > > photos for gullible small devotees living in or outside India. If I > > had so much knowledge like You claim to possess I would have > > enlightened myself and my family first before going to the world. > > Please do not waste time over small devotee like me and neither yours > > (a big devotee)by replying. > > > > > > <% 40>, > > "surya" <dattapr2000@> > > wrote: > > > > > > "bhaskar_jyotish" <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > >> The statue or photo is the inert object- > > > > Reply- > > > > But the context differs in many cases. In the context of > > comparing > > > with controlled consciousness and inert consciousness ,You may call > > > this Jada or inert. But when You are connecting to allegories, then > > > this stone cannot be inert. Take this stone to any good > > > scientist ,only a small piece would suffice, he would tell You of > > > the million protons,neutrons and ellectrons circulating in that > > > small stone. What do You call that energy in the context You used? > > > Inert? > > > > > > Surya: There is no logic in your statements and is not suitable > > when > > > one enters Jnana yoga or Brahma Vidya, where the divine knowledge > > > will be preached by Lord in human form (like krishna, Shankara... > > > but not Tagore, Gandhi, Nehru ...) with complete logic. The basic > > > requirement for receiving brahma jnana as per Shankara is Chitta > > > suddhi. Veda says 'Pratima alpa buddhinam', which indicates the > > > level of devotee doing idol worship. Lord krishna in human form > > only > > > preached Gita and not idols of His time. No further argument is > > > required for your objections. > > > -------------------------- > > > >> Please remember that Gita did not tell that the Lord would come > > > in any other form. - > > > > Reply- > > > > Gita is mainly for Karma updesh, coming from Shree vachans of God > > > Krishna. What is not there, is not, cannot be true. Because when > > > Gita was said Arjuna was not in Gita, neither the Lord himself was > > > in Gita. So are they not there ? One is the sayer one is the > > > listener, they are not in Gita, but the cause of Gita. So are they > > > not there? Computer was not there in Gita. So computer is not there? > > > Because he did not say this, so this is not there or will not be? > > > What rubbish.Dont quote great scriptures to bring in Your > > ideologies. > > > > > > surya: In Gita, you will find, Arjuna Uvacha, Bhagavan Uvacha, > > which > > > mean Arjuna & Krishna were very much there. When you accept Krishna > > > as Lord, whatever was preached by Him forms the scripture. This is > > > the reference document for any believer of Krishna to pursue the > > > spirituality and identify the contemporary human incarnation. > > > Ofcourse such scripture is not required for those sitting on banks > > > of river without getting in to water and commenting just for fun > > > sake. In idol worship, elders say Lord exists in idol and we > > blindly > > > accept. There is no need of logic or analysis, which means Brahma > > > Jnana is not at all required. Your arguments correspond to level of > > > idol worship and hence need not be logical also. > > > ----------------- > > > >> They should be protected and must be respected as the models of > > > >> divine knowledge for the future ignorant devotees. > > > > Reply. > > > > You mean all Catholics going to Church and worshipping statue of > > > Lord Jesus or The Virgin Mary are fools? You mean all Muslims going > > > to Kaba are without intelligence? You mean all Hindus going to > > > temples are idiots ? You mean Meerabai or Bhakta Surdasa > > > > were ignorant devotees ? And You are smart? What great > > > realisation on Your part. Do You think these great devotees did not > > > have knowledge that God is everywhere? They definitely had this > > > knowledge. Or did You think that these great devotees would limit > > > their Gods to one statue ? and the space the statue occupies? what > > > tragedic thinking. Would You not keep photos of Your loved ones > > when > > > they are no more physically with You? > > > > > > surya: The top most devotees who also turned out top most jnanis by > > > achieving the top most laurels by pleasing the Lord are .... > > > > > > Hanuman, a topmost devotee identified Lord Rama and served Him and > > > always said 'Dasoham kosalendrasya...' (I am servant to Lord Rama). > > > He even performed many miracles also and still he has given credit > > > of them to Rama only. For such worship, Lord has given future > > > creator post to Hanuman. > > > > > > Peter, John, Luke... identified Lord Jesus by His divine knowledge > > > and participated in the propagation of divine knowledge. > > > > > > Gopikas identified and worshipped Lord Krishna, the then human > > > incarnation only and got the highest fruit of top most Goloka. > > Swami > > > Vivekananda participated in the mission of propagation of divine > > > knowledge on the order of the then human incarnation Rama Krishna > > > Paramahamsa. > > > > > > Likewise the disciples of Adi Sankara worshipped Him as lord and > > > latter on participated in the propagation of divine knowledge. > > > > > > Meerabai is Radha only who learnt complete Brahma Jnana even before > > > she borned as Radha and that is why she could identify Lord Krishna > > > and worshipped Him. When Meerabai was worshipping Krishna, she > > > underwent lot of troubles but still she did not leave her devotion > > > and she also composed many bjajans out of her true devotion and > > > propagated them as part propagation of bhakti in the masses. Where > > > as if we worship Lord Krishna now and if any trouble comes we will > > > leave the worship. If our desires are not fulfilled, we start > > > scolding Lord. Our state represents complete ajnana and Meerabai > > > state represents complete Brahma Jnani. But you are comparing > > > ourselves with Meerabai. > > > > > > I will reply remaning comments if they are meaningful in another > > > mail. > > > > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar > > > > > > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > > > surya > > > www.universal-spirituality.org > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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