Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 hello members, sucessful predictions on world cup of south indian astrologer k.b.gopalakrishnan is posted here which was pub;ished in site www.sathyaprema.com bye ramalingam WORLD CUP FINALS Sunday, July 09, 2006. by K.B.GOPALAKRISHNAN, The last leg of world cup has come. It is grand finale. Of course many people are very curious to know who will win? Some one even went to extent of asking why the prediction was not put up. The czar of France, zidane football final match will unfold in Berlin. Just like the brazil pele, zidane can be considered as all time great. Italy qualified for finals every 12 years. There are equal in world cup two each victory over each other. The match will start in lagna of kumbha. France is represented by saturn who is lagna lord Italy is the 7th lord, which is by sun. Secondly from Chandra lagna also the lagna lord is Jupiter in the 11th house and 7 th lord is in the 8th house. The match starts with ketu nakshtra. this is unfavorable to france. Therefore match will be won by Italy.PREDICTION CAME TRUE WORLD FOOTBALL CUP –MATCHES IN GERMANY 25th July, 22:10 MATCH:51- 25 June '06 Stuttgart ENG vs. ECU 20:30 .England will win.- PREDICTION CAME TRUE MATCH:53- 26 June '06 Kaiserslautern ITA vs. AUS 20:30 Italy will win.- PREDICTION CAME TRUE MATCH:55- 27 June '06 Dortmund BRA vs. GHA 20:30 .brazil will winPREDICTION CAME TRUE QUARTERFINALS PREDICTIONS MATCH: 57-30th JUNE'06-GERMANY vs. ARGENTINA- GERMANY WILL WIN THE MATCH PREDICTION CAME TRUE MATCH: 58 -1st JULY'06- BRAZIL vs. FRANCE-BRAZIL WILL WIN THE MATCH Some one asked me who would win the world cup? I said it is very easy to say who will not win the world cup? Some people were stunned. They looked at me very quizzical. I said that no nation from Africa and Asia will win the world cup. Either it will be a nation from Europe or South America. If any one see the finals standing, then not many from Asia and Africa other than Ghana has qualified. Last time the world cup was won by South American nation. This time it is mostly a European nation. Any way we will wait for the semi- final to get over to make the final predictions. In the last 16 matches that were about to begin I called up my student and said that Germany will qualify. Secondly I also knew Argentina will qualify. In any case following the results of group 16 matches. Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Namaskaar Sri Ramalingam Wouldn't it be better if you inform of such posts, when they are written and not when they come true? Thanks and Regards Bharat On 8/3/06, rama lingam sekar <ramalingam2_sekar > wrote: > > hello members, > sucessful predictions on world cup of south indian astrologer > k.b.gopalakrishnan is posted here which was pub;ished in site > www.sathyaprema.com > bye > ramalingam > > WORLD CUP FINALS > Sunday, July 09, 2006. by K.B.GOPALAKRISHNAN, > > > The last leg of world cup has come. It is grand finale. Of course many > people are very curious to know who will win? Some one even went to extent > of asking why the prediction was not put up. > The czar of France, zidane football final match will unfold in Berlin. > Just like the brazil pele, zidane can be considered as all time great. > Italy qualified for finals every 12 years. There are equal in world cup > two each victory over each other. > > The match will start in lagna of kumbha. France is represented by saturn > who is lagna lord > > Italy is the 7th lord, which is by sun. > > Secondly from Chandra lagna also the lagna lord is Jupiter in the 11th > house and 7 th lord is in the 8th house. > > The match starts with ketu nakshtra. this is unfavorable to france. > > Therefore match will be won by Italy.PREDICTION CAME TRUE > > WORLD FOOTBALL CUP –MATCHES IN GERMANY > 25th July, 22:10 > > > MATCH:51- 25 June '06 Stuttgart ENG vs. ECU 20:30 .England will win.- > PREDICTION CAME TRUE > MATCH:53- 26 June '06 Kaiserslautern ITA vs. AUS 20:30 Italy will win.- > PREDICTION CAME TRUE > MATCH:55- 27 June '06 Dortmund BRA vs. GHA 20:30 .brazil will > winPREDICTION CAME TRUE > QUARTERFINALS PREDICTIONS > > MATCH: 57-30th JUNE'06-GERMANY vs. ARGENTINA- GERMANY WILL WIN THE MATCH > PREDICTION CAME TRUE > MATCH: 58 -1st JULY'06- BRAZIL vs. FRANCE-BRAZIL WILL WIN THE MATCH > > > Some one asked me who would win the world cup? I said it is very easy to > say who will not win the world cup? > > Some people were stunned. They looked at me very quizzical. I said that no > nation from Africa and Asia will win the world cup. Either it will be a > nation from Europe or South America. > > If any one see the finals standing, then not many from Asia and Africa > other than Ghana has qualified. > > Last time the world cup was won by South American nation. This time it is > mostly a European nation. Any way we will wait for the semi- final to get > over to make the final predictions. > > In the last 16 matches that were about to begin I called up my student and > said that Germany will qualify. Secondly I also knew Argentina will qualify. > In any case following the results of group 16 matches. > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 hello sir, please go to his site www.sathyaprema.com for all predictions. bye gopal Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Bharatji, Not only that, I feel what most people dont understand is that in order to understand the true value of a prediction, you must additionally attach to it the probability of randomly being correct. For example, in two-outcome situations with approximately equally matched opponents e.g. a match between two teams or an election between two candidates or a bill being passed/rejected by lawmakers, the probability of randomly being correct in a prediction, without using any principles whatsoever, is 0.5. Consequently, any prediction of such situations does not carry much weight to begin with. In order for a prediction to carry a lot of weight, the probability of randomly being correct should be very low. For example, if an astrologer were to correctly predict the month and year of birth of the first child of a person when the person was not even thinking of being married, it would be an extremely impressive prediction, because the probability of randomly being correct would be very low. A random prediction would have to select from at least 10 childbearing years in each of which there would be 12 possibilities. So there would be at least a 100 possibilities making the probability of a random hit being 0.01. Such predictions have to be highlighted (I mean those in which random chance of correctness is very low). Otherwise, if two-outcome situations are what are to be focussed on, then a string of two outcome situations must be shown e.g. a list of twenty matches, in each of which the prediction came true. The probability of RANDOMLY being correct in ALL 20, would be 0.5*0.5*0.5.. twenty times, which is very low. It is also not ok to post simply the matches in which a prediction was correct. All matches for which predictions were made must be posted, even those that were wrong, so that an observant reader can contrast the random chance of success with the astrologer's prediction quality. I say all this not to put down astrologers, only to awaken them to mathematical realities. If they respected certain mathematical realities, and presented their predictions within the context of these realities, the average person would quickly accept their results. Moreover, it would serve as a litmus test for good astrologers. Thanks Sundeep , "Bharat Hindu Astrology" <hinduastrology wrote: > > Namaskaar Sri Ramalingam > > Wouldn't it be better if you inform of such posts, when they are written and > not when they come true? > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Namaste Sri Sundeep Sound reasoning is a must. Infact, if you see in June end and July beginning, Sri Manjunath Sharma and I had conducted an exercise of finding a method to analyse football matches. The attempt was purely experimental and for our learning. We were right in one or two cases and wrong in others. In our study, we had given sound hypothesis and the principles used. We further applied our reasoning based on the hypothesis. You shall find all these emails on the group. We had repeatedly asked the experts to give their views on the hypothesis used and the analysis made. None came forward that time. After a month of the same, this whole exercise of announcing that the prediction came true, is futile to me. Neither do I get the analysis, nor do I get any kind of learning. All I get is that such and such is a great astrologer. I would rather consider an Astrologer great because he cares to share his knowledge and research - I find Sri Sanjay Rath, Sri K. N. Rao, Sri C. S. Patel, and many masters in this group and a few other groups much much much better. I respect them for their knowledge and researches. Thanks and Regards Bharat On 8/4/06, vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent > wrote: > > Dear Bharatji, > Not only that, I feel what most people dont understand is that in > order to understand the true value of a prediction, you must > additionally attach to it the probability of randomly being correct. > For example, in two-outcome situations with approximately equally > matched opponents e.g. a match between two teams or an election > between two candidates or a bill being passed/rejected by lawmakers, > the probability of randomly being correct in a prediction, without > using any principles whatsoever, is 0.5. Consequently, any prediction > of such situations does not carry much weight to begin with. In order > for a prediction to carry a lot of weight, the probability of > randomly being correct should be very low. > > For example, if an astrologer were to correctly predict the month and > year of birth of the first child of a person when the person was not > even thinking of being married, it would be an extremely impressive > prediction, because the probability of randomly being correct would > be very low. A random prediction would have to select from at least > 10 childbearing years in each of which there would be 12 > possibilities. So there would be at least a 100 possibilities making > the probability of a random hit being 0.01. > > Such predictions have to be highlighted (I mean those in which random > chance of correctness is very low). Otherwise, if two-outcome > situations are what are to be focussed on, then a string of two > outcome situations must be shown e.g. a list of twenty matches, in > each of which the prediction came true. The probability of RANDOMLY > being correct in ALL 20, would be 0.5*0.5*0.5.. twenty times, which > is very low. > > It is also not ok to post simply the matches in which a prediction > was correct. All matches for which predictions were made must be > posted, even those that were wrong, so that an observant reader can > contrast the random chance of success with the astrologer's > prediction quality. > > I say all this not to put down astrologers, only to awaken them to > mathematical realities. If they respected certain mathematical > realities, and presented their predictions within the context of > these realities, the average person would quickly accept their > results. Moreover, it would serve as a litmus test for good > astrologers. > > Thanks > > Sundeep > > <%40>, > "Bharat Hindu Astrology" > > <hinduastrology wrote: > > > > Namaskaar Sri Ramalingam > > > > Wouldn't it be better if you inform of such posts, when they are > written and > > not when they come true? > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2006 Report Share Posted August 3, 2006 Dear Bharatji, You can say the below only because you yourself are very intelligent and knowledgeable - enough to understand whose knowledge and research is good and whose is not. The average man, who cant discriminate between good research and bad, how does he distinguish? For the benefit of the average man, I feel there should be a simple scheme for evaluating the quality of predictions.. Thanks Sundeep > I would rather consider an Astrologer great because he cares to share his > knowledge and research - I find Sri Sanjay Rath, Sri K. N. Rao, Sri C. S. > Patel, and many masters in this group and a few other groups much much much > better. I respect them for their knowledge and researches. > > Thanks and Regards > Bharat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 Hello Sundeep, Excellent post. I have been making similar point for sometime now. Your post makes an excellent observation of probability of being randomly correct. Its like someone saying that Australia will do well in next cricket world cup. I mean they have been in finals in the past 3 world cups, so someone touts that as a prediction, I feel that does not need any astrological knowledge what so ever. If one puts country chart and tithi pravesha and 20 divisional charts to back their prediction, I would consider it a waste of time as same can be arrived at with an ounce of commonsense. Anyone who can read and can use a program to cast a horoscope can tell what lagna is in all the divisions, what arudha is for a chart, yada yada yada. It is ameaningless banter. Predict when there are more than two possibilities ( low probability of an event) and do it consistently. Unfortunately I do not see anyone who can do such a thing, even the most celebrated ones can not do this. Thats why astrology is not taken seriously by most rational people. Satish --- vedicastrostudent <vedicastrostudent > wrote: > Dear Bharatji, > Not only that, I feel what most people dont > understand is that in > order to understand the true value of a prediction, > you must > additionally attach to it the probability of > randomly being correct. > For example, in two-outcome situations with > approximately equally > matched opponents e.g. a match between two teams or > an election > between two candidates or a bill being > passed/rejected by lawmakers, > the probability of randomly being correct in a > prediction, without > using any principles whatsoever, is 0.5. > Consequently, any prediction > of such situations does not carry much weight to > begin with. In order > for a prediction to carry a lot of weight, the > probability of > randomly being correct should be very low. > > For example, if an astrologer were to correctly > predict the month and > year of birth of the first child of a person when > the person was not > even thinking of being married, it would be an > extremely impressive > prediction, because the probability of randomly > being correct would > be very low. A random prediction would have to > select from at least > 10 childbearing years in each of which there would > be 12 > possibilities. So there would be at least a 100 > possibilities making > the probability of a random hit being 0.01. > > Such predictions have to be highlighted (I mean > those in which random > chance of correctness is very low). Otherwise, if > two-outcome > situations are what are to be focussed on, then a > string of two > outcome situations must be shown e.g. a list of > twenty matches, in > each of which the prediction came true. The > probability of RANDOMLY > being correct in ALL 20, would be 0.5*0.5*0.5.. > twenty times, which > is very low. > > It is also not ok to post simply the matches in > which a prediction > was correct. All matches for which predictions were > made must be > posted, even those that were wrong, so that an > observant reader can > contrast the random chance of success with the > astrologer's > prediction quality. > > I say all this not to put down astrologers, only to > awaken them to > mathematical realities. If they respected certain > mathematical > realities, and presented their predictions within > the context of > these realities, the average person would quickly > accept their > results. Moreover, it would serve as a litmus test > for good > astrologers. > > > Thanks > > Sundeep > > > , "Bharat Hindu > Astrology" > <hinduastrology wrote: > > > > Namaskaar Sri Ramalingam > > > > Wouldn't it be better if you inform of such posts, > when they are > written and > > not when they come true? > > > > Thanks and Regards > > Bharat > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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