Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Namaste, Shyam how can he be at peace forever, the one with the greatest delusion of all, look at the hundreds of jivas made from the same energy, the same clay he is molded of, all deluded, so is the nature of clay to be deluded! If he suddenly believes himself at peace forever he is taking himself for the pot he is not, because it was not the clay which realised that it is clay, it was the pot which realised that it is clay, if he is taking himself truly for the clay he is, he is at one with hundreds of other deluded jivas, thus, needs to help hundreds of other deluded jivas to understand their innate buddha-hood, before he can claim being at peace, not forever, but only during the manifestation of the lives of hundreds of claypots. You are energy and I am energy, we are the same energy in different "bodies". If we are and you realise this and i do not, how can you proove to me that i am the deluded one and not you ? Since we are the same clay in different pots, we might as well both be deluded, I from the idea that i must realise hundreds of deluded jivas before clay is realised... you from the idea that you are at peace forever. But if you really are clay, what makes your delusion a truth, ... your pot, only your pot... after your pot breaks, your delusion of being at peace forever breaks apart instantly into tiny pieces of clay, forming other pots forming other delusions. Delusions are the nature of clay. Sincerely Lulu "Is the culmination of our search self realization or is it helping others? I think by the latter you are perhaps referring to the bodhisattva doctrine that the ultimate aim is to help hundreds of other deluded jivas also understand their innate buddha-hood." "According to the Vedantic teaching getting established in this selfknowledge is the goal as it were. Once the sthitaprajna has understood his oneness with brahman then he is at peace forever." Want to be your own boss? Learn how on Small Business. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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