Idol Worship - Misrepresentation of LOGIC 3/8

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Surya,

why r u Obssesd wth giving up money if u care to read a few posts u will see many still struggling to make some and u r tallking of people who ammass wealth when this forum memebrs amass wealth sure we will come to u, till then show us the way to make that kind of money what can be given up most people r ordinary souls here u can go to Ambanis' who r fighting on how much money each gets and the Rambxy family, the Birla families, the chabrias, Maharani Gayathri, Vijay Malya, Lalloo Prasad yadav, Abdul Karim Telgi, Jyoti Basu, Somnath chaterjee etc. , and preach sure it will help all of us if they shed their ill gotten wealth, and live like NARAYANA MORTHYInfosys A Rich man but down to earth till date there r rich and noble people

will wil get back to you when we are even 10% of them above.

please leaves us alone and spare us these sermons and your datta swami if u say is a grea astrologer lets see him help a few cases here. and no one ehre is mintign money all r free service by this definition we have ALREADY GIVEN UP THE FRUIT-MONEY, i HOPE this is good enough.....!

we still fill u r twisting the grammer. and pushign ur datta's dialogy if he gives u the rich ashram we can follow suit.

 

surya <dattapr2000 > wrote: dear friend

Now many of you are writing, the interpretations given sofar in the

form of divine messages are wrong. When you have alleged me like

that, i should definitely be given a chance to present my views in

this regard.

'Na'(no) is not present in front of 'Dhanena tyagenaike...', then

how come you have interpreted 'not by wealth'. Infact you have mis-

interpreted the statement.

The principle of grammar, which you have quoted must be understood

in proper sense. It says that the word used in one place can be

extended to other places if necessary. Ex:-Na Ramah, Lakshmanah,

Bharathah Agatah. This means that Rama, Lakshmana and Bharatha did

not come. The word `Na' is used at one place (Rama) and is extended

to the other places (Lakshmana and Bharatha). But the word `Na' is

used in two places, it cannot be extended to the third place. Ex:-

Na Ramah, Na Lakshmanah, Bharatah Agatah. This means that Rama and

Lakshmana did not come but Bharata came. Similarly in this Mantra

the word `Na' is used at two places (Karma, Praja). The word `Na'

cannot be extended to the thrid place (Dhanena) and to the fourth

place also (Tyagena).

What you said is also against to the logic, which is common sense.

Suppose you say "My thirst will not be pacified by drinking milk,

juice and buttermilk but it will be pacified only by drinking". Only

a mad fellow says so and the Lord who is the author of Veda is not a

mad fellow. The important point is that you should specify the item

by which your thirst can be pacified. That is the important point.

The items, which cannot pacify your thirst need not be stated at all

because that is not important. In your way of explanation the

important item is not mentioned. By sacrificing which item, one can

please the Lord? This is not stated which is the important point.

Therefore based on grammar and based on logic the meaning is that

the sacrifice of money alone can please the Lord. This point is told

in Veda else where also, which you cannot contradict. Veda

says "Tyakthena Bhunjeedhah Ma Gridhah Kasyasvit Dhanam." This

means "one should enjoy the minimum required money and if one stores

he becomes a theif. Whose money is all this? All this money belongs

to the Lord". Gita also emphasizes Karma Phala Tyaga. The word Karma

in the case of a human being is also limited to the earning of money

for maintenance as per Gita (Sareera Yatrapicha).

Saktuprastha was tested in the sacrifice of food (a form of money)

only. Saibaba often asked for Gurudakshina to preach this main

spiritual concept. Vasistha says that the root of all the worldly

bonds is only money (Dhana moolamidam Jagath). The most important

Yantra or Chakra is `Sri Chakra'. Sri means money only. Sri Chakra

means the most important whirlpool, which obstructs the swimmer of

this world ocean. The real color comes out in the sacrifice of money

only. The bond with money (Dhaneshana) is responsible for the bonds

with wife (Dareshana) and Children (Putreshana). Unless such root

cause is cut, the salvation is impossible and therefore this Mantra

emphasizes original source point of the salvation.

At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

surya

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"Bharat Hindu Astrology" <hinduastrology wrote:

> The Vedas say not by Karma, not by progeny, not by wealth is

Amrita (Brahman) known. Only through Tyaga, Brahman is known. Tyaga

of what is being pointed out? - Sri Surya says it is the tyaga of

wealth. Let us analyse it:

> It is clear that this person (Sri Surya) is not only

misrepresenting the Scriptures but also using the forum for

misinforming and creating confusion to those who haven't read them.

> I am also glad that almost all of the members have rejected his

> misrepresentation and I'd like to congratulate them. One small

message to Sri Bhaskar - that please do not get upset or angry at

such audacity shown by Sri Surya. Perhaps it is time for him to find

another guru.

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

 

 

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