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Surya,

When we asked you to contribute on astrology it is in chart readings and help the suffering members whith their troubles-health, work, finance, mariage, divorces etc.

we don't want ur opinion on astrology as if it s like urs on other aspects of Vedas this is a Vedanhga so we can only expect more rubbish, if so then rather stay quiet we can do with it.

Well all of us knw we have commited some sins so we suffer and what we ask or people ask is how to overcome that suffering, not escape it or by pass it, after all if u work u get a pay cheque or a pay amount. so if ur karma [work] is in some disease, debt, accident surgery, a rise in ur jobm, a vehicle, a gift a child, a marriage etc waht is wrong ] what astrology tell ss anyone is who long when relief is possible. and any more in the line if any. did u c anyone asking to sweep away the bad ones?

u need to study more at ur lords feet if not the books u condem itself again.and with an open mind suurely.

surya <dattapr2000 > wrote: Astrologers say that you are getting troubles due to the movement of

the planets. This means that you are getting the trouble not due to

your previous sins. Therefore you feel that you are unnecessarily

getting troubles, even though you have not done any sin. Astrologers

say that a police arrests you because you are going on a road and

accidentally the police is also walking on the same road. You are

very anxious to get rid of these troubles because these are

unnecessary punishments for you. The astrologers exploit your

anxiety by suggesting some remedies. The word Graha (planet) means

that system which gives the exact result for your exact deed in

exact time.

The planets are just the computers. They are inert and are not

independent. Only Swami can change the decisions. Therefore there is

no use of worshipping the planets. One has to receive the fruits of

the deeds whether good or bad (Naabhuktam Ksheeyate Karma). There is

only one way to escape the fruits of the deeds. The Lord comes down

in human form and undergoes the punishments for your sake and saves

you. At the same time He will protect the prestige of God of Justice

and the theory of Karma. This is the main reason for His human

incarnation.

He will never cancel the fruits of deeds. He will sacrifice Himself

and protects you. When you cannot pay the fine, your father pays it.

You must become eligible for such grace of the Lord. The eligibility

is achieved by you when you do not aspire to get rid of the fruits

of your deeds and prepare to undergo the punishments of all your

sins. You should never think that the Lord should sacrifice for your

sake.

At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

surya

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Prashantkumar G B

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I personally had an experience with one astrologer. I asked him, `if

I wear such and such neelam or something else, will my problem be

solved forever? What is your experience? Be frank. I won't mind.'

Then Astrologer said, with whatever problem they approach, that

problem will be solved. But he/she gets another problem shortly. So

to be frank, it does not give any real solution. He even told he

himself does not know what is the cause of all these? So, my feeling

we should opt for permanent only, which is only true.

 

I am not attacking the astrologers. That is definitely not my

intention. If you feel that way, I am sorry. But I want to reveal

the mechanism happening behind this process. We should remember one

fundamental point. Lord is only one and His duty officers are these

planets (they also are serving Lord) who strictly provide the fruit

of deed as per the individual's karma chakra. When a remedy is

suggested by astrologer to overcome the sufferance to `arta', he

performs it i.e., like donating something or performing pujas etc.

This is like pestering Lord. Then Lord is pushing their sufferance

to a latter part of same life or to another life. In this way, he

has to pay them with interest, which is only making the problem more

severe.

 

The Gita speaks about the four different classes. The LKG class

is `Arta', which means a person hit by worldly problems. He comes to

God for help. God solves his problem once or twice to introduce

Himself to that person. For a few days only the chocolates are given

to the kid, as initial attraction. The Lord transfers the punishment

on to Him and suffers in solving the problem. It is hoped that the

devotee develops gratefulness to the Lord, which may lead to

selfless love. If that happens, the devotee is entering into higher

classes.

 

At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

surya

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

> When we asked you to contribute on astrology it is in chart

readings and help the suffering members whith their troubles-

health, work, finance, mariage, divorces etc.

> we don't want ur opinion on astrology as if it s like urs on

other aspects of Vedas this is a Vedanhga so we can only expect

more rubbish, if so then rather stay quiet we can do with it.

> Well all of us knw we have commited some sins so we suffer and

what we ask or people ask is how to overcome that suffering, not

escape it or by pass it, after all if u work u get a pay cheque or

a pay amount. so if ur karma [work] is in some disease, debt,

accident surgery, a rise in ur jobm, a vehicle, a gift a child, a

marriage etc waht is wrong ] what astrology tell ss anyone is who

long when relief is possible. and any more in the line if any. did

u c anyone asking to sweep away the bad ones?

> u need to study more at ur lords feet if not the books u condem

itself again.and with an open mind suurely.

> Prashantkumar G B

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||Jai Ramakrishna||

 

Dear Suryaji,

 

I think u have overdigested anything...or wrongly have taken a lot at a

time....y dont u opt for a digestive medicine??

 

For your information...astrology is not like Solving your

problems.....No one can either solve the problems...nor anyone can

change their destiny....

 

Astrology is like showing the pit from before & telling you,"Take care

before you fall"..by gems we can energise some benefics, which are

weakly placed in your chart...so that u can put ur maximum.

 

For your benefit, I am giving a birth data for you....where i was told

to do a chart reading abt whom i have no idea.

hi Gaurav how are you doing brother? I am doing wel...how abt u?? hope

in great soul! well bro please read this horo and just tell me some

basic things about person that is: About his gernal characters..(hiding

characters and habbits) Seems that he doesnot have good morals...Rahu

afflicts Jupiter...the Lagna lord, while Saturn is debilitated & joins

Venus ..that too in 5th...but the native must be suffering from any

mental related problem. In Navamsha too...Rahu afflicts Venus... About

his Married life. The native must have had love marriage...4th & 7th

house is hemmed between malefics...no peace after marriage....sun in

7th...is the native planning for a divorce???Nevertheless his wife is

good. and about his carrer career is good....10th lord in 6th

house...the native will gain success, provided he puts in the correct

effort...his working atmosphere is very competitive...in dasamsa, the

10th lord in Jupiter itself...will get a rise in career...seems he might

be interested in business too... please read this horo...here is

details. (Birthdata Hidden for Obvious reaons)contact me personally

for details... 'ld be thankful to u Thanking u in advance.. waiting

for ur reply Already replied...for any mistakes....forgive me!!!as a bro

Roshan

Its for your convenience...i copied & pasted it from my mailbox, in the

sent items folder.

 

Now, am pasting some from the reply i got through messenger from

the person, who approached me for this reading

 

: dekh....sai hai ya nahi [:-s]

astro_log1984: hmmm ok let me read

astro_log1984: well bro..yeh jis ka horo hai wo already us ki already

aik marriage broke up ho chuke

: hmm....

astro_log1984: and yeha 2nd one was love marriage! and it's going almost

smooth

astro_log1984: and yeha...his career life is going awesome!

astro_log1984: earning lots of money

: so...anything clicked??

astro_log1984: and about mental related problem..he never told me about

any problem like that

astro_log1984: hey thank you so v.much for ur kind responce..

 

There are enormous....but i dont want to make the posting so big...

 

You can get some success notes in my website. in Astrology...no one can

be 100% correct..if he is...then he is God !!

 

http://gauravastro.150m.com/preds.html

<http://gauravastro.150m.com/preds.html>

 

Thanq,

 

With Humbleness,

 

Wish u all success,

 

 

 

http://gauravastro.150m.com <http://gauravastro.150m.com>

 

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, "surya" <dattapr2000

wrote:

>

> I personally had an experience with one astrologer. I asked him, `if

> I wear such and such neelam or something else, will my problem be

> solved forever? What is your experience? Be frank. I won't mind.'

> Then Astrologer said, with whatever problem they approach, that

> problem will be solved. But he/she gets another problem shortly. So

> to be frank, it does not give any real solution. He even told he

> himself does not know what is the cause of all these? So, my feeling

> we should opt for permanent only, which is only true.

>

> I am not attacking the astrologers. That is definitely not my

> intention. If you feel that way, I am sorry. But I want to reveal

> the mechanism happening behind this process. We should remember one

> fundamental point. Lord is only one and His duty officers are these

> planets (they also are serving Lord) who strictly provide the fruit

> of deed as per the individual's karma chakra. When a remedy is

> suggested by astrologer to overcome the sufferance to `arta', he

> performs it i.e., like donating something or performing pujas etc.

> This is like pestering Lord. Then Lord is pushing their sufferance

> to a latter part of same life or to another life. In this way, he

> has to pay them with interest, which is only making the problem more

> severe.

>

> The Gita speaks about the four different classes. The LKG class

> is `Arta', which means a person hit by worldly problems. He comes to

> God for help. God solves his problem once or twice to introduce

> Himself to that person. For a few days only the chocolates are given

> to the kid, as initial attraction. The Lord transfers the punishment

> on to Him and suffers in solving the problem. It is hoped that the

> devotee develops gratefulness to the Lord, which may lead to

> selfless love. If that happens, the devotee is entering into higher

> classes.

>

> At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

> surya

> www.universal-spirituality.org

>

>

> Prashant Kumar G B gbp_kumar@ wrote:

> > When we asked you to contribute on astrology it is in chart

> readings and help the suffering members whith their troubles-

> health, work, finance, mariage, divorces etc.

> > we don't want ur opinion on astrology as if it s like urs on

> other aspects of Vedas this is a Vedanhga so we can only expect

> more rubbish, if so then rather stay quiet we can do with it.

> > Well all of us knw we have commited some sins so we suffer and

> what we ask or people ask is how to overcome that suffering, not

> escape it or by pass it, after all if u work u get a pay cheque or

> a pay amount. so if ur karma [work] is in some disease, debt,

> accident surgery, a rise in ur jobm, a vehicle, a gift a child, a

> marriage etc waht is wrong ] what astrology tell ss anyone is who

> long when relief is possible. and any more in the line if any. did

> u c anyone asking to sweep away the bad ones?

> > u need to study more at ur lords feet if not the books u condem

> itself again.and with an open mind suurely.

> > Prashantkumar G B

>

[Guest guest]

ll HARE RAM ll

Dear Lord Surya,

Can one give pestring to Lord.Our life is like a car that is running on the road in the night and the front lights of the car is astrology or remedies. The light is not the saving guard but it can make our journey more safer

in comparison me to go into the dark.Plz try to follow Rishi Yagyavalakya..

I do not want to indulge in arguements but i advise you plz leave negativity and think positive like your name Surya otherwise a day you will have to realize as KHUDA MILA NA VISALE SANAM.Life is too short leave all KINTU - PARANTU and chant RAM RAM as much as you can.This is the only way to get the blessings of Lord Dattatreya.

God bless

Shashie Shekhar

 

surya <dattapr2000 > wrote:

I personally had an experience with one astrologer. I asked him, `if

I wear such and such neelam or something else, will my problem be

solved forever? What is your experience? Be frank. I won't mind.'

Then Astrologer said, with whatever problem they approach, that

problem will be solved. But he/she gets another problem shortly. So

to be frank, it does not give any real solution. He even told he

himself does not know what is the cause of all these? So, my feeling

we should opt for permanent only, which is only true.

 

I am not attacking the astrologers. That is definitely not my

intention. If you feel that way, I am sorry. But I want to reveal

the mechanism happening behind this process. We should remember one

fundamental point. Lord is only one and His duty officers are these

planets (they also are serving Lord) who strictly provide the fruit

of deed as per the individual's karma chakra. When a remedy is

suggested by astrologer to overcome the sufferance to `arta', he

performs it i.e., like donating something or performing pujas etc.

This is like pestering Lord. Then Lord is pushing their sufferance

to a latter part of same life or to another life. In this way, he

has to pay them with interest, which is only making the problem more

severe.

 

The Gita speaks about the four different classes. The LKG class

is `Arta', which means a person hit by worldly problems. He comes to

God for help. God solves his problem once or twice to introduce

Himself to that person. For a few days only the chocolates are given

to the kid, as initial attraction. The Lord transfers the punishment

on to Him and suffers in solving the problem. It is hoped that the

devotee develops gratefulness to the Lord, which may lead to

selfless love. If that happens, the devotee is entering into higher

classes.

 

At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

surya

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B wrote:

> When we asked you to contribute on astrology it is in chart

readings and help the suffering members whith their troubles-

health, work, finance, mariage, divorces etc.

> we don't want ur opinion on astrology as if it s like urs on

other aspects of Vedas this is a Vedanhga so we can only expect

more rubbish, if so then rather stay quiet we can do with it.

> Well all of us knw we have commited some sins so we suffer and

what we ask or people ask is how to overcome that suffering, not

escape it or by pass it, after all if u work u get a pay cheque or

a pay amount. so if ur karma [work] is in some disease, debt,

accident surgery, a rise in ur jobm, a vehicle, a gift a child, a

marriage etc waht is wrong ] what astrology tell ss anyone is who

long when relief is possible. and any more in the line if any. did

u c anyone asking to sweep away the bad ones?

> u need to study more at ur lords feet if not the books u condem

itself again.and with an open mind suurely.

> Prashantkumar G B

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

[Guest guest]

ll HARE RAM ll

Dear Lord Surya,

Can one give pestring to Lord.Our life is like a car that is running on the road in the night and the front lights of the car is astrology or remedies. The light is not the saving guard but it can make our journey more safer

in comparison to go into the dark.Plz try to follow Rishi Yagyavalakya.

I do not want to indulge in arguements but i advise you plz leave negativity and think positive like your name Surya otherwise a day you will have to realize as KHUDA MILA NA VISALE SANAM.Life is too short leave all KINTU - PARANTU and chant RAM RAM as much as you can.This is the only way to get the blessings of Lord Dattatreya.

God bless

Shashie Shekhar

 

surya <dattapr2000 > wrote:

I personally had an experience with one astrologer. I asked him, `if

I wear such and such neelam or something else, will my problem be

solved forever? What is your experience? Be frank. I won't mind.'

Then Astrologer said, with whatever problem they approach, that

problem will be solved. But he/she gets another problem shortly. So

to be frank, it does not give any real solution. He even told he

himself does not know what is the cause of all these? So, my feeling

we should opt for permanent only, which is only true.

 

I am not attacking the astrologers. That is definitely not my

intention. If you feel that way, I am sorry. But I want to reveal

the mechanism happening behind this process. We should remember one

fundamental point. Lord is only one and His duty officers are these

planets (they also are serving Lord) who strictly provide the fruit

of deed as per the individual's karma chakra. When a remedy is

suggested by astrologer to overcome the sufferance to `arta', he

performs it i.e., like donating something or performing pujas etc.

This is like pestering Lord. Then Lord is pushing their sufferance

to a latter part of same life or to another life. In this way, he

has to pay them with interest, which is only making the problem more

severe.

 

The Gita speaks about the four different classes. The LKG class

is `Arta', which means a person hit by worldly problems. He comes to

God for help. God solves his problem once or twice to introduce

Himself to that person. For a few days only the chocolates are given

to the kid, as initial attraction. The Lord transfers the punishment

on to Him and suffers in solving the problem. It is hoped that the

devotee develops gratefulness to the Lord, which may lead to

selfless love. If that happens, the devotee is entering into higher

classes.

 

At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

surya

www.universal-spirituality.org

 

 

Prashant Kumar G B wrote:

> When we asked you to contribute on astrology it is in chart

readings and help the suffering members whith their troubles-

health, work, finance, mariage, divorces etc.

> we don't want ur opinion on astrology as if it s like urs on

other aspects of Vedas this is a Vedanhga so we can only expect

more rubbish, if so then rather stay quiet we can do with it.

> Well all of us knw we have commited some sins so we suffer and

what we ask or people ask is how to overcome that suffering, not

escape it or by pass it, after all if u work u get a pay cheque or

a pay amount. so if ur karma [work] is in some disease, debt,

accident surgery, a rise in ur jobm, a vehicle, a gift a child, a

marriage etc waht is wrong ] what astrology tell ss anyone is who

long when relief is possible. and any more in the line if any. did

u c anyone asking to sweep away the bad ones?

> u need to study more at ur lords feet if not the books u condem

itself again.and with an open mind suurely.

> Prashantkumar G B

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS.

[Guest guest]

i am very grateful to your reply and taking your precious time in

explaining me the concepts of Astrology. I am definitely open to you

& your efforts. Do not consider that i am against the astrology.

 

The very idea of any worship like japa, singing bhajans, satsang,

karma phala tyaga, karma sanyasa is to pleae Lord only and get some

fruit from Him. even social service like helping poor is not worship

but trying to please Lord indrectly. Even any remidy performed for

planet (like japa done to planets) goes to Lord but in a indirect

way i.e., representative worship.When such an arta approached lord,

He gives him relief on one or two occasions.

 

Let us take an example. I have to undergo some 1000 units of

sufferance from june 1, 2006 to june 30,2006. Karma chakra decides

amount, time, in what i have to suffer etc. I even accept that the

astrologer has predicted it before hand. If i follow the remidy

like wearing some gems, you are saying we will get some benefits.

But shastra says 'Avasyamanubhoktavyam… kalpakotisatairapi', which

means you can never escape from your karma. So, if i get relief

instantaneously, it means they have been pushed to sometime in

future.

 

And in all these processes, one fundamental point is missing. This

arta will be running pillar to post during the time of sufferance,

but he will forget the Lord and enjoy in the world, once the problem

is solved. He will not be grateful to the lord.

 

There is not even a trace of realisation in him and so he will

continue to commit the same sins and revolve continuously in the

karma chakra only. IS it what is expected? Lord gives punishments to

bring realisation in us and not with any grudge. This main purpose

will never be served in these predictions and remedies. If the

theory begind these is known to him, he will realise his mistakes.

Then atleast he will try to control them. Ofcourse if one turns to

Lord with real selfless love through practical service, he will be

blessed here and in the upper worlds also.

 

At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

surya

http://www.universal-spirituality.org

 

 

"astrologer_gaurav" <gg_0202 wrote:

> ||Jai Ramakrishna||

> I think u have overdigested anything...or wrongly have taken a lot

at a time....y dont u opt for a digestive medicine??

> For your information...astrology is not like Solving your

> problems.....No one can either solve the problems...nor anyone can

> change their destiny....

> Astrology is like showing the pit from before & telling you,"Take

care before you fall"..by gems we can energise some benefics, which

are weakly placed in your chart...so that u can put ur maximum.

> For your benefit, I am giving a birth data for you....where i was

told to do a chart reading abt whom i have no idea.

> hi Gaurav how are you doing brother? I am doing wel...how abt u??

hope in great soul! well bro please read this horo and just tell me

some basic things about person that is: About his gernal characters