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Surya,

u met one astrologer I guess it must the one and only Guru u have too then,else meet a few with an OPEN MIND u will get the right answer.

a. that all remedies are like shock absorbers, shock absorbers don't remove the pits, ditches, bumps the road but makes the IMPACT bearable a, by giving a breather

aa. the native is able to bridge the journey fairly comfortably

bb. is able to work on the job on hand

cc. thank the almighty for it

dd. this paves the way for a Grihastha to become more religious and aware of god and his might, no one who comes to these forums at least is there who doesn't have some faith in some god, godess.

AND I DO AGREE WITH THE LINE THAT IF U TRY TO BYPASS U R KARMA BY DEFICIF FINANCING some day Inflation will catch up the bonus u got now is used as said in the poitns aa to cc so U need to forget that every average soul remembers and pays his gratiude to almighty in some way. else what u say will happen I doubt people are so dumb to ignore this.

thus the shock absorber makes even the smooth surfaces on road in the live/s better.

b. u are fixed to ur mindsets and not open even to listen, read or redem ur life

c. you HAVE NO STUFF OR GUTS TO ASNWER ANY ASTRO CHART STUDY.

d. u may be banned from thos group and other groups too sonner so better fidn a right balance else ur datta swami will be left voiceless. [ur voice]

I/we have faith in the almighty not in the agents. who market them rather they must bring in faith and respect by ur method many young may be more confused and may even detest our rich heritage of knowledge, wealth, tolerance are so hapazardly presented, ridiculed by half baked brains/creatures.

make way for astrology alone

MOVE TO ASTROLOGY OR MOVE OUT

surya <dattapr2000 > wrote: I personally had an experience with one astrologer. I asked him, `if

I wear such and such neelam or something else, will my problem be

solved forever? What is your experience? Be frank. I won't mind.'

Then Astrologer said, with whatever problem they approach, that

problem will be solved. But he/she gets another problem shortly. So

to be frank, it does not give any real solution. He even told he

himself does not know what is the cause of all these? So, my feeling

we should opt for permanent only, which is only true.

I am not attacking the astrologers. That is definitely not my

intention. If you feel that way, I am sorry. But I want to reveal

the mechanism happening behind this process. We should remember one

fundamental point. Lord is only one and His duty officers are these

planets (they also are serving Lord) who strictly provide the fruit

of deed as per the individual's karma chakra. When a remedy is

suggested by astrologer to overcome the sufferance to `arta', he

performs it i.e., like donating something or performing pujas etc.

This is like pestering Lord. Then Lord is pushing their sufferance

to a latter part of same life or to another life. In this way, he

has to pay them with interest, which is only making the problem more

severe.

The Gita speaks about the four different classes. The LKG class

is `Arta', which means a person hit by worldly problems. He comes to

God for help. God solves his problem once or twice to introduce

Himself to that person. For a few days only the chocolates are given

to the kid, as initial attraction. The Lord transfers the punishment

on to Him and suffers in solving the problem. It is hoped that the

devotee develops gratefulness to the Lord, which may lead to

selfless love. If that happens, the devotee is entering into higher

classes.

At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

surya

www.universal-spirituality.org

Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar wrote:

> When we asked you to contribute on astrology it is in chart

readings and help the suffering members whith their troubles-

health, work, finance, mariage, divorces etc.

> we don't want ur opinion on astrology as if it s like urs on

other aspects of Vedas this is a Vedanhga so we can only expect

more rubbish, if so then rather stay quiet we can do with it.

> Well all of us knw we have commited some sins so we suffer and

what we ask or people ask is how to overcome that suffering, not

escape it or by pass it, after all if u work u get a pay cheque or

a pay amount. so if ur karma [work] is in some disease, debt,

accident surgery, a rise in ur jobm, a vehicle, a gift a child, a

marriage etc waht is wrong ] what astrology tell ss anyone is who

long when relief is possible. and any more in the line if any. did

u c anyone asking to sweep away the bad ones?

> u need to study more at ur lords feet if not the books u condem

itself again.and with an open mind suurely.

> Prashantkumar G B

 

 

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Well said.

 

It is better to get wet in the process of jumping in the river

and saving lives from the strong currents,of someone who

does not have knowledge of swimming, who can be swayed by these

strong currents,instead of sitting at the banks of the river

and advising the jumper how to swim and how fast to swim.

People who advise from refraining exhibitionism and desist

from using such language should get in the water and then talk.

You need some grit to get in the 60 feet pit to save the child

Prince and if You worry about soiling Your clothes then this

job can never be done.

The intentions have to be seen and not the apparent weightage

of words.

Firing the enemy has to be done by army at Kargil Some fire

shots from pistols which make less noise, some fire from

AK 47s which make more noise and some with tanks ..........

at least they fire instead of sitting in bunkers and enjoying tea

on a couch.

 

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Surya,

> u met one astrologer I guess it must the one and only Guru u have

too then,else meet a few with an OPEN MIND u will get the right

answer.

>

> a. that all remedies are like shock absorbers, shock absorbers

don't remove the pits, ditches, bumps the road but makes the IMPACT

bearable a, by giving a breather

> aa. the native is able to bridge the journey fairly comfortably

> bb. is able to work on the job on hand

> cc. thank the almighty for it

> dd. this paves the way for a Grihastha to become more religious

and aware of god and his might, no one who comes to these forums at

least is there who doesn't have some faith in some god, godess.

>

> AND I DO AGREE WITH THE LINE THAT IF U TRY TO BYPASS U R KARMA

BY DEFICIF FINANCING some day Inflation will catch up the bonus u

got now is used as said in the poitns aa to cc so U need to forget

that every average soul remembers and pays his gratiude to almighty

in some way. else what u say will happen I doubt people are so dumb

to ignore this.

>

> thus the shock absorber makes even the smooth surfaces on road in

the live/s better.

>

> b. u are fixed to ur mindsets and not open even to listen, read

or redem ur life

> c. you HAVE NO STUFF OR GUTS TO ASNWER ANY ASTRO CHART STUDY.

> d. u may be banned from thos group and other groups too sonner

so better fidn a right balance else ur datta swami will be left

voiceless. [ur voice]

>

> I/we have faith in the almighty not in the agents. who market

them rather they must bring in faith and respect by ur method many

young may be more confused and may even detest our rich heritage of

knowledge, wealth, tolerance are so hapazardly presented, ridiculed

by half baked brains/creatures.

>

> make way for astrology alone

>

> MOVE TO ASTROLOGY OR MOVE OUT

>

> surya <dattapr2000

wrote: I personally

had an experience with one astrologer. I asked him, `if

> I wear such and such neelam or something else, will my problem be

> solved forever? What is your experience? Be frank. I won't mind.'

> Then Astrologer said, with whatever problem they approach, that

> problem will be solved. But he/she gets another problem shortly.

So

> to be frank, it does not give any real solution. He even told he

> himself does not know what is the cause of all these? So, my

feeling

> we should opt for permanent only, which is only true.

>

> I am not attacking the astrologers. That is definitely not my

> intention. If you feel that way, I am sorry. But I want to reveal

> the mechanism happening behind this process. We should remember

one

> fundamental point. Lord is only one and His duty officers are

these

> planets (they also are serving Lord) who strictly provide the

fruit

> of deed as per the individual's karma chakra. When a remedy is

> suggested by astrologer to overcome the sufferance to `arta', he

> performs it i.e., like donating something or performing pujas

etc.

> This is like pestering Lord. Then Lord is pushing their

sufferance

> to a latter part of same life or to another life. In this way, he

> has to pay them with interest, which is only making the problem

more

> severe.

>

> The Gita speaks about the four different classes. The LKG class

> is `Arta', which means a person hit by worldly problems. He comes

to

> God for help. God solves his problem once or twice to introduce

> Himself to that person. For a few days only the chocolates are

given

> to the kid, as initial attraction. The Lord transfers the

punishment

> on to Him and suffers in solving the problem. It is hoped that

the

> devotee develops gratefulness to the Lord, which may lead to

> selfless love. If that happens, the devotee is entering into

higher

> classes.

>

> At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

> surya

> www.universal-spirituality.org

>

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > When we asked you to contribute on astrology it is in chart

> readings and help the suffering members whith their troubles-

> health, work, finance, mariage, divorces etc.

> > we don't want ur opinion on astrology as if it s like urs on

> other aspects of Vedas this is a Vedanhga so we can only expect

> more rubbish, if so then rather stay quiet we can do with it.

> > Well all of us knw we have commited some sins so we suffer and

> what we ask or people ask is how to overcome that suffering, not

> escape it or by pass it, after all if u work u get a pay cheque

or

> a pay amount. so if ur karma [work] is in some disease, debt,

> accident surgery, a rise in ur jobm, a vehicle, a gift a child,

a

> marriage etc waht is wrong ] what astrology tell ss anyone is

who

> long when relief is possible. and any more in the line if any.

did

> u c anyone asking to sweep away the bad ones?

> > u need to study more at ur lords feet if not the books u

condem

> itself again.and with an open mind suurely.

> > Prashantkumar G B

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Prashantkumar G B

>

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Bhaskar,

trust me I did not get one word of what u intended on the need of action by memebrs I guess but on kargil YES.

if u had said something on my post or the post on which i wrote wud be better.

 

bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Well said.

It is better to get wet in the process of jumping in the river

and saving lives from the strong currents,of someone who

does not have knowledge of swimming, who can be swayed by these

strong currents,instead of sitting at the banks of the river

and advising the jumper how to swim and how fast to swim.

People who advise from refraining exhibitionism and desist

from using such language should get in the water and then talk.

You need some grit to get in the 60 feet pit to save the child

Prince and if You worry about soiling Your clothes then this

job can never be done.

The intentions have to be seen and not the apparent weightage

of words.

Firing the enemy has to be done by army at Kargil Some fire

shots from pistols which make less noise, some fire from

AK 47s which make more noise and some with tanks ..........

at least they fire instead of sitting in bunkers and enjoying tea

on a couch.

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Surya,

> u met one astrologer I guess it must the one and only Guru u have

too then,else meet a few with an OPEN MIND u will get the right

answer.

>

> a. that all remedies are like shock absorbers, shock absorbers

don't remove the pits, ditches, bumps the road but makes the IMPACT

bearable a, by giving a breather

> aa. the native is able to bridge the journey fairly comfortably

> bb. is able to work on the job on hand

> cc. thank the almighty for it

> dd. this paves the way for a Grihastha to become more religious

and aware of god and his might, no one who comes to these forums at

least is there who doesn't have some faith in some god, godess.

>

> AND I DO AGREE WITH THE LINE THAT IF U TRY TO BYPASS U R KARMA

BY DEFICIF FINANCING some day Inflation will catch up the bonus u

got now is used as said in the poitns aa to cc so U need to forget

that every average soul remembers and pays his gratiude to almighty

in some way. else what u say will happen I doubt people are so dumb

to ignore this.

>

> thus the shock absorber makes even the smooth surfaces on road in

the live/s better.

>

> b. u are fixed to ur mindsets and not open even to listen, read

or redem ur life

> c. you HAVE NO STUFF OR GUTS TO ASNWER ANY ASTRO CHART STUDY.

> d. u may be banned from thos group and other groups too sonner

so better fidn a right balance else ur datta swami will be left

voiceless. [ur voice]

>

> I/we have faith in the almighty not in the agents. who market

them rather they must bring in faith and respect by ur method many

young may be more confused and may even detest our rich heritage of

knowledge, wealth, tolerance are so hapazardly presented, ridiculed

by half baked brains/creatures.

>

> make way for astrology alone

>

> MOVE TO ASTROLOGY OR MOVE OUT

>

> surya <dattapr2000

wrote: I personally

had an experience with one astrologer. I asked him, `if

> I wear such and such neelam or something else, will my problem be

> solved forever? What is your experience? Be frank. I won't mind.'

> Then Astrologer said, with whatever problem they approach, that

> problem will be solved. But he/she gets another problem shortly.

So

> to be frank, it does not give any real solution. He even told he

> himself does not know what is the cause of all these? So, my

feeling

> we should opt for permanent only, which is only true.

>

> I am not attacking the astrologers. That is definitely not my

> intention. If you feel that way, I am sorry. But I want to reveal

> the mechanism happening behind this process. We should remember

one

> fundamental point. Lord is only one and His duty officers are

these

> planets (they also are serving Lord) who strictly provide the

fruit

> of deed as per the individual's karma chakra. When a remedy is

> suggested by astrologer to overcome the sufferance to `arta', he

> performs it i.e., like donating something or performing pujas

etc.

> This is like pestering Lord. Then Lord is pushing their

sufferance

> to a latter part of same life or to another life. In this way, he

> has to pay them with interest, which is only making the problem

more

> severe.

>

> The Gita speaks about the four different classes. The LKG class

> is `Arta', which means a person hit by worldly problems. He comes

to

> God for help. God solves his problem once or twice to introduce

> Himself to that person. For a few days only the chocolates are

given

> to the kid, as initial attraction. The Lord transfers the

punishment

> on to Him and suffers in solving the problem. It is hoped that

the

> devotee develops gratefulness to the Lord, which may lead to

> selfless love. If that happens, the devotee is entering into

higher

> classes.

>

> At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

> surya

> www.universal-spirituality.org

>

> Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > When we asked you to contribute on astrology it is in chart

> readings and help the suffering members whith their troubles-

> health, work, finance, mariage, divorces etc.

> > we don't want ur opinion on astrology as if it s like urs on

> other aspects of Vedas this is a Vedanhga so we can only expect

> more rubbish, if so then rather stay quiet we can do with it.

> > Well all of us knw we have commited some sins so we suffer and

> what we ask or people ask is how to overcome that suffering, not

> escape it or by pass it, after all if u work u get a pay cheque

or

> a pay amount. so if ur karma [work] is in some disease, debt,

> accident surgery, a rise in ur jobm, a vehicle, a gift a child,

a

> marriage etc waht is wrong ] what astrology tell ss anyone is

who

> long when relief is possible. and any more in the line if any.

did

> u c anyone asking to sweep away the bad ones?

> > u need to study more at ur lords feet if not the books u

condem

> itself again.and with an open mind suurely.

> > Prashantkumar G B

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Prashantkumar G B

>

> -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

group but

> off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or phone.

> Please fix times for this in advance -*-

> 09840051861

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

>

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Shri Prashantji

 

Parnams,

 

Yesterday some gentleman had told me not to exhibit power and desist

from using bad language etc. in my mails to Shri Suryaji.

My last mail was meant to tell such people that at least people like

Yourself,Shri Panditji, Gaurav Babu,Sashie sahab etc. write back to

this Suryaji and try to put forward their points of sanity.,which was

akin to some one jumping in the river to

save others lives (Weak minds) from strong currents(Misinterpreted

scriptures and philosphy) which could sway them hither and thither

(in wrong directions). People who criticise the person who jumps in

the water are akin to people sitting in bunkers and enjoying tea at

Kargil,while criticising their associates in the army who are risking

their lives, but at least standing in the front and firing at the

enemy ranks. These people never fight back with the wrong poster

but criticise simply others who are posting for good cause.

Shri Prashantji, I have always been fan of Your goodself and Shri

Panditji for immediately coming up with Your mails for a good cause

whenever

any wrong is posted by anyone, I also appreciate the contents, style

of presentation and immediate response to unruly posters.

So please never think otherwise.

It would be sacrilege on my part to think otherwise about You,

Panditji and few others.

 

Regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, Prashant Kumar G B

<gbp_kumar wrote:

>

> Bhaskar,

> trust me I did not get one word of what u intended on the need of

action by memebrs I guess but on kargil YES.

> if u had said something on my post or the post on which i wrote

wud be better.

>

>

> bhaskar_jyotish <bhaskar_jyotish

wrote: Well said.

>

> It is better to get wet in the process of jumping in the river

> and saving lives from the strong currents,of someone who

> does not have knowledge of swimming, who can be swayed by these

> strong currents,instead of sitting at the banks of the river

> and advising the jumper how to swim and how fast to swim.

> People who advise from refraining exhibitionism and desist

> from using such language should get in the water and then talk.

> You need some grit to get in the 60 feet pit to save the child

> Prince and if You worry about soiling Your clothes then this

> job can never be done.

> The intentions have to be seen and not the apparent weightage

> of words.

> Firing the enemy has to be done by army at Kargil Some fire

> shots from pistols which make less noise, some fire from

> AK 47s which make more noise and some with tanks ..........

> at least they fire instead of sitting in bunkers and enjoying tea

> on a couch.

>

> , Prashant Kumar G B

> <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> >

> > Surya,

> > u met one astrologer I guess it must the one and only Guru u

have

> too then,else meet a few with an OPEN MIND u will get the right

> answer.

> >

> > a. that all remedies are like shock absorbers, shock

absorbers

> don't remove the pits, ditches, bumps the road but makes the

IMPACT

> bearable a, by giving a breather

> > aa. the native is able to bridge the journey fairly

comfortably

> > bb. is able to work on the job on hand

> > cc. thank the almighty for it

> > dd. this paves the way for a Grihastha to become more

religious

> and aware of god and his might, no one who comes to these forums

at

> least is there who doesn't have some faith in some god, godess.

> >

> > AND I DO AGREE WITH THE LINE THAT IF U TRY TO BYPASS U R

KARMA

> BY DEFICIF FINANCING some day Inflation will catch up the bonus

u

> got now is used as said in the poitns aa to cc so U need to

forget

> that every average soul remembers and pays his gratiude to

almighty

> in some way. else what u say will happen I doubt people are so

dumb

> to ignore this.

> >

> > thus the shock absorber makes even the smooth surfaces on road

in

> the live/s better.

> >

> > b. u are fixed to ur mindsets and not open even to listen,

read

> or redem ur life

> > c. you HAVE NO STUFF OR GUTS TO ASNWER ANY ASTRO CHART STUDY.

> > d. u may be banned from thos group and other groups too

sonner

> so better fidn a right balance else ur datta swami will be left

> voiceless. [ur voice]

> >

> > I/we have faith in the almighty not in the agents. who market

> them rather they must bring in faith and respect by ur method

many

> young may be more confused and may even detest our rich heritage

of

> knowledge, wealth, tolerance are so hapazardly presented,

ridiculed

> by half baked brains/creatures.

> >

> > make way for astrology alone

> >

> > MOVE TO ASTROLOGY OR MOVE OUT

> >

> > surya <dattapr2000@>

> wrote: I

personally

> had an experience with one astrologer. I asked him, `if

> > I wear such and such neelam or something else, will my

problem be

> > solved forever? What is your experience? Be frank. I won't

mind.'

> > Then Astrologer said, with whatever problem they approach,

that

> > problem will be solved. But he/she gets another problem

shortly.

> So

> > to be frank, it does not give any real solution. He even told

he

> > himself does not know what is the cause of all these? So, my

> feeling

> > we should opt for permanent only, which is only true.

> >

> > I am not attacking the astrologers. That is definitely not my

> > intention. If you feel that way, I am sorry. But I want to

reveal

> > the mechanism happening behind this process. We should

remember

> one

> > fundamental point. Lord is only one and His duty officers are

> these

> > planets (they also are serving Lord) who strictly provide the

> fruit

> > of deed as per the individual's karma chakra. When a remedy

is

> > suggested by astrologer to overcome the sufferance to `arta',

he

> > performs it i.e., like donating something or performing pujas

> etc.

> > This is like pestering Lord. Then Lord is pushing their

> sufferance

> > to a latter part of same life or to another life. In this

way, he

> > has to pay them with interest, which is only making the

problem

> more

> > severe.

> >

> > The Gita speaks about the four different classes. The LKG

class

> > is `Arta', which means a person hit by worldly problems. He

comes

> to

> > God for help. God solves his problem once or twice to

introduce

> > Himself to that person. For a few days only the chocolates

are

> given

> > to the kid, as initial attraction. The Lord transfers the

> punishment

> > on to Him and suffers in solving the problem. It is hoped

that

> the

> > devotee develops gratefulness to the Lord, which may lead to

> > selfless love. If that happens, the devotee is entering into

> higher

> > classes.

> >

> > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami

> > surya

> > www.universal-spirituality.org

> >

> > Prashant Kumar G B <gbp_kumar@> wrote:

> > > When we asked you to contribute on astrology it is in

chart

> > readings and help the suffering members whith their troubles-

> > health, work, finance, mariage, divorces etc.

> > > we don't want ur opinion on astrology as if it s like urs

on

> > other aspects of Vedas this is a Vedanhga so we can only

expect

> > more rubbish, if so then rather stay quiet we can do with it.

> > > Well all of us knw we have commited some sins so we suffer

and

> > what we ask or people ask is how to overcome that suffering,

not

> > escape it or by pass it, after all if u work u get a pay

cheque

> or

> > a pay amount. so if ur karma [work] is in some disease,

debt,

> > accident surgery, a rise in ur jobm, a vehicle, a gift a

child,

> a

> > marriage etc waht is wrong ] what astrology tell ss anyone

is

> who

> > long when relief is possible. and any more in the line if

any.

> did

> > u c anyone asking to sweep away the bad ones?

> > > u need to study more at ur lords feet if not the books u

> condem

> > itself again.and with an open mind suurely.

> > > Prashantkumar G B

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Prashantkumar G B

> >

> > -*- The services of this astrologer are free on

 

> group but

> > off the group consultations are chargeable by chat, mail or

phone.

> > Please fix times for this in advance -*-

> > 09840051861

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta.

> >

> >