Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 ||Jai Ramakrishna|| Dear Shree Suryaji, Complete devotion to the lotus feet of God will definitely alter the results of all "ill-karmas"..in this context Holy Mother Sarada Devi's words are very applicable...once someone asked her about Diksha & all. She replied, that if you completely devote yourself to the lotus feet of God...still you have to suffer all the bad karmas,which however will mitigate for the time being. As an example, She said that suppose u r destined to have some loss of blood due to an accident, that can change to loss of few blood drops by pricking with the needle, if u completely devote yourself to the lotus of feet of God. Thats why, we recommend Mantra Jap or various pujas to appease the planets. The word "Graha" means something that accepts & has the potential to give results. Shree Narayan or Janardana takes the form of 9 planets & they are placed on your birth chart, accordingly u enjoy or suffer in this birth. Nine planets, who are the 9 form Shree Janardana, can be prayed or worshipped, thus worshipping Narayan indirectly. However, all these varies from person to person....one might not believe in Karma....its people's own belief & practices..no one shld not intervene....we cannot impose one thing upon an atheist....evrything should be spontaneous.....I have been studying astrology when i was 18 years older...now am still studying & am 20 now....I have seen miracles in Astrology....though my parents are against it...still i am addicted..... For One who does not believe in Karma, then i think, words of Swami Vivekananda,"You are the maker of your destiny" & "Each & every person is equally & potentially divine" will definitely help him. I hope that this helps you, Thanq With humbleness, Wish u all success, http://gauravastro.150m.com -----------------------No private mails please----------------------- , "surya" <dattapr2000 wrote: > > i am very grateful to your reply and taking your precious time in > explaining me the concepts of Astrology. I am definitely open to you > & your efforts. Do not consider that i am against the astrology. > > The very idea of any worship like japa, singing bhajans, satsang, > karma phala tyaga, karma sanyasa is to pleae Lord only and get some > fruit from Him. even social service like helping poor is not worship > but trying to please Lord indrectly. Even any remidy performed for > planet (like japa done to planets) goes to Lord but in a indirect > way i.e., representative worship.When such an arta approached lord, > He gives him relief on one or two occasions. > > Let us take an example. I have to undergo some 1000 units of > sufferance from june 1, 2006 to june 30,2006. Karma chakra decides > amount, time, in what i have to suffer etc. I even accept that the > astrologer has predicted it before hand. If i follow the remidy > like wearing some gems, you are saying we will get some benefits. > But shastra says 'Avasyamanubhoktavyam… kalpakotisatairapi', which > means you can never escape from your karma. So, if i get relief > instantaneously, it means they have been pushed to sometime in > future. > > And in all these processes, one fundamental point is missing. This > arta will be running pillar to post during the time of sufferance, > but he will forget the Lord and enjoy in the world, once the problem > is solved. He will not be grateful to the lord. > > There is not even a trace of realisation in him and so he will > continue to commit the same sins and revolve continuously in the > karma chakra only. IS it what is expected? Lord gives punishments to > bring realisation in us and not with any grudge. This main purpose > will never be served in these predictions and remedies. If the > theory begind these is known to him, he will realise his mistakes. > Then atleast he will try to control them. Ofcourse if one turns to > Lord with real selfless love through practical service, he will be > blessed here and in the upper worlds also. > > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > surya > http://www.universal-spirituality.org > > > "astrologer_gaurav" <gg_0202@> wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > I think u have overdigested anything...or wrongly have taken a lot > at a time....y dont u opt for a digestive medicine?? > > For your information...astrology is not like Solving your > > problems.....No one can either solve the problems...nor anyone can > > change their destiny.... > > Astrology is like showing the pit from before & telling you,"Take > care before you fall"..by gems we can energise some benefics, which > are weakly placed in your chart...so that u can put ur maximum. > > For your benefit, I am giving a birth data for you....where i was > told to do a chart reading abt whom i have no idea. > > hi Gaurav how are you doing brother? I am doing wel...how abt u?? > hope in great soul! well bro please read this horo and just tell me > some basic things about person that is: About his gernal characters > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 4, 2006 Report Share Posted August 4, 2006 This was a very wise post made by You considering Your age. Keep it up. , "astrologer_gaurav" <gg_0202 wrote: > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > Dear Shree Suryaji, > Complete devotion to the lotus feet of God will definitely alter the > results of all "ill-karmas"..in this context Holy Mother Sarada > Devi's words are very applicable...once someone asked her about > Diksha & all. She replied, that if you completely devote yourself to > the lotus feet of God...still you have to suffer all the bad > karmas,which however will mitigate for the time being. As an > example, She said that suppose u r destined to have some loss of > blood due to an accident, that can change to loss of few blood drops > by pricking with the needle, if u completely devote yourself to the > lotus of feet of God. > Thats why, we recommend Mantra Jap or various pujas to appease the > planets. The word "Graha" means something that accepts & has the > potential to give results. Shree Narayan or Janardana takes the form > of 9 planets & they are placed on your birth chart, accordingly u > enjoy or suffer in this birth. Nine planets, who are the 9 form > Shree Janardana, can be prayed or worshipped, thus worshipping > Narayan indirectly. > However, all these varies from person to person....one might not > believe in Karma....its people's own belief & practices..no one shld > not intervene....we cannot impose one thing upon an > atheist....evrything should be spontaneous.....I have been studying > astrology when i was 18 years older...now am still studying & am 20 > now....I have seen miracles in Astrology....though my parents are > against it...still i am addicted..... > For One who does not believe in Karma, then i think, words of Swami > Vivekananda,"You are the maker of your destiny" & "Each & every > person is equally & potentially divine" will definitely help him. > I hope that this helps you, > Thanq > With humbleness, > Wish u all success, > > http://gauravastro.150m.com > -----------------------No private mails please---------------------- - > > , "surya" <dattapr2000@> > wrote: > > > > i am very grateful to your reply and taking your precious time in > > explaining me the concepts of Astrology. I am definitely open to > you > > & your efforts. Do not consider that i am against the astrology. > > > > The very idea of any worship like japa, singing bhajans, satsang, > > karma phala tyaga, karma sanyasa is to pleae Lord only and get > some > > fruit from Him. even social service like helping poor is not > worship > > but trying to please Lord indrectly. Even any remidy performed > for > > planet (like japa done to planets) goes to Lord but in a indirect > > way i.e., representative worship.When such an arta approached > lord, > > He gives him relief on one or two occasions. > > > > Let us take an example. I have to undergo some 1000 units of > > sufferance from june 1, 2006 to june 30,2006. Karma chakra decides > > amount, time, in what i have to suffer etc. I even accept that the > > astrologer has predicted it before hand. If i follow the remidy > > like wearing some gems, you are saying we will get some benefits. > > But shastra says 'Avasyamanubhoktavyam… kalpakotisatairapi', which > > means you can never escape from your karma. So, if i get relief > > instantaneously, it means they have been pushed to sometime in > > future. > > > > And in all these processes, one fundamental point is missing. This > > arta will be running pillar to post during the time of sufferance, > > but he will forget the Lord and enjoy in the world, once the > problem > > is solved. He will not be grateful to the lord. > > > > There is not even a trace of realisation in him and so he will > > continue to commit the same sins and revolve continuously in the > > karma chakra only. IS it what is expected? Lord gives punishments > to > > bring realisation in us and not with any grudge. This main purpose > > will never be served in these predictions and remedies. If the > > theory begind these is known to him, he will realise his mistakes. > > Then atleast he will try to control them. Ofcourse if one turns to > > Lord with real selfless love through practical service, he will be > > blessed here and in the upper worlds also. > > > > At the lotus feet of Shri Datta Swami > > surya > > http://www.universal-spirituality.org > > > > > > "astrologer_gaurav" <gg_0202@> wrote: > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna|| > > > I think u have overdigested anything...or wrongly have taken a > lot > > at a time....y dont u opt for a digestive medicine?? > > > For your information...astrology is not like Solving your > > > problems.....No one can either solve the problems...nor anyone > can > > > change their destiny.... > > > Astrology is like showing the pit from before & telling > you,"Take > > care before you fall"..by gems we can energise some benefics, > which > > are weakly placed in your chart...so that u can put ur maximum. > > > For your benefit, I am giving a birth data for you....where i > was > > told to do a chart reading abt whom i have no idea. > > > hi Gaurav how are you doing brother? I am doing wel...how abt > u?? > > hope in great soul! well bro please read this horo and just tell > me > > some basic things about person that is: About his gernal characters > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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