Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Dear Friends, It also makes me sad when my co-Indians go abroad on working or students visas, then also marry there but when the time of birth of their children comes, they instead of coming back to India ,so that the child is Indian born, instead ,prefer to stay there to give their child birth there itself, to grant citizen status to their children, and these same people when some fear of political retribution is received from other countries to their resident foreign country, they come back with bag and baggage, back to India in the safety of their mothers warmth arms. But I think I am not supposed to say all this. I should look good by not saying all this. But then You are all my friends. I cannot keep my inner thoughts concealed from You and mantain a seperate facade. Double standards or hypocrisy is not easily digestable. Forgive me for having hurt anyone. Yours, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2006 Report Share Posted August 7, 2006 Dear Bhaskarji, Its true to a large extent what you say.Need not feel sorry for your honest views. I am experiancing things first hand,and my heart beats for the progress of India,which does get accelerated when NRI's contribute positively for Indias growth,especially in IT filed.Sure some of the best indian brains are studying,working and having numerous patents up their sleeve.The recongnition for ones honest work gets appreciated regardless of where you come from in USA.Dont know about other countries,americans are far too welcoming and encourage people growth tremendously.Some sterling qualities of americans are not even known to many people in india.Like work ethics,basic honesty,following the law etc. Suresh. , "bhaskar_jyotish" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > It also makes me sad when my co-Indians go abroad on working or > students visas, then also marry there but when the time of birth of > their children comes, they instead of coming back to India ,so that the > child is Indian born, instead ,prefer to stay there to give their > child birth there itself, to grant citizen status to their children, > and these same people when some > fear of political retribution is received from other countries to > their resident foreign country, they come back with bag and baggage, > back to India in the safety of their mothers warmth arms. > But I think I am not supposed to say all this. I should look good > by not saying all this. But then You are all my friends. I cannot keep > my inner thoughts concealed from You and mantain a seperate facade. > Double standards or hypocrisy is not easily digestable. > Forgive me for having hurt anyone. > > Yours, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 dear friends narayana murthy, azim premji, the tatas, the birlas, the ambanis, the rajus, the nadars have all shown to sceptics that they are doing world's best business by being in india with indian brains within india. these days it has become a vogue for everyone to criticise the brain drain which centuries ago was treated as a sin. such people were treated as if they could not eke their livelihood within this country and migrated to other countries for food. but this perception has changed due to market dynamics. a farmer sells his produce to the best available price. similarly a best brain renders its services only to the best paymasters. except the modern entreprenuers listed above, all indian employers treated indian best brains as cheap cattle and even today i find many young graduates (even MBAs) getting salaries of rupees two thousand per month in the captial delhi who work as marketers of some bank products even when the government has laid down a law that the lowest salary for an unskilled labour is around rupees four thousand per month. a girl next door was drawing only rupee thre thousand five hundred per month salary with a consultant even with her MBA from symbiosis, pune. i made her to realise what her real worth is and within a month she got better job which is in multiples of that pittance. hence i fully support brain drain and rather suggest that the skills must be given only to those who value them best. ask all those who scream of brain drain as to how they are treating their subordinates or how much salary they are offering to thier employees. you all have criticised 1001 astrologers for their not having skills. are there any free jyotish schools. are there any free jyotish libraries. with the help of the click of a mouse you get all divisional charts and keep prodding a traditional astrologer with a flurry of computer generated queeis and indulge in brain teasing. have you realised how these traditional astrologers without any resources used to calcualte all the divisional charts manually and the dasha systems as well. i also learnt in the hard manual way but computer has made it easy. i was fortunate to have got my laptop as a gift from a noble customer but where from all resources come to astrologers. before this, i spent thousands of rupees on internet at cybercafe and freely donated my astro knoweldge to querents and also mantra and tantra knowledge to fraternity and customers alike. but all intelligent people who received my free services have given a dakshina and one very rich astrologer having all comforts in the life not only exploited me repeatedly but also took items on credit from me. i only thank him for clearing my debt. when the exploitation has become too much, i stopped giving free readings to bear minimum and am giving only free knowledge or advice. the height of hypocricy is displayed by people screaming loudly from their airconditioned drawingroom or stealing time (kaam chor) from their office to write all astro related queries and seek, rather demand, free answers and drub all astrologers charging money as bad. my leant friend tatvamji criticised only those astrologers WHO ADVERTISE THEMSELVES as moneyminded. but today there are 1001 telivision channels and every one wants to match the others contents and hence everyone is approaching various astrologers to share time for them. when the rich and famous have no time, small timers are making a hey day. any way, i strongly preach and practice that there are no free lunches and to get something you have to give something. "JO KHAALI HAATH AAYEGA, WOH KHAALI HAATH JAAYEGA". it is nothing more than hypocricy if one advises that astrolgoers shall give only free advise because it is a kind of daan and the receipient accumulates karmic debt. also to show their prowess or to hone our skills, some astros give free readings. i told publicly that i am clearing my karmic debt by giving free readings. there are two kinds of people, one who set up a langar at a temple and distribute free food and many who stop their bikes and cars and rush to grab that free food. with best wishes pandit arjun (a realised person is always in the giving hand without having anything and an unrealised person is always in the receiving hand even after having everything) , "bhaskar_jyotish" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Dear Friends, > > It also makes me sad when my co-Indians go abroad on working or > students visas, then also marry there but when the time of birth of > their children comes, they instead of coming back to India ,so that the > child is Indian born, instead ,prefer to stay there to give their > child birth there itself, to grant citizen status to their children, > and these same people when some > fear of political retribution is received from other countries to > their resident foreign country, they come back with bag and baggage, > back to India in the safety of their mothers warmth arms. > But I think I am not supposed to say all this. I should look good > by not saying all this. But then You are all my friends. I cannot keep > my inner thoughts concealed from You and mantain a seperate facade. > Double standards or hypocrisy is not easily digestable. > Forgive me for having hurt anyone. > > Yours, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Dear Pandit Arjun ji Exceptions will always be there in any society, but they do not set the criterion for assessment. Braindrain is the reality. There is nothing to like or dislike about it. In modern yuga, where distances have never been constraints (12th house is no longer difficulty from that perspective!!!) for transportation and communication means. Remote working has further complicated the entire equation. Minimum salary is solely decided by demand / supply equilibrium. We often make misjudgements by linking qualification to salaries. How about those skills? The students, who get qualification from poorly rated institution does not acquire knowledge / skills; they just get "degree" and want to be treated like "son-in-laws". If they deserve, they will always be paid well. Afterall, if they can produce results, which employer can afford to underpay. But no employer will like to pay more than the benefits. Many, perhaps do not realize the training cost, an employer get to spend on such qualified, but unskilled workforce (even if we do not count the cost of inefficiency, delays etc). Commercialization of astrology is acceptable; but not the greed, dishonesty, incompetence etc. Many on this forum have expressed the experience of bad readings (incuding from nadi etc) and just think about the natives, who do not know about astrology and suffer from such readings / remedies. In the name of divinity, we may choose to criticise or not; but it is not going to alter the way, people undergo the vicious trap of false hope and excuse building. Whether jyotish is free or paid, this does not absolve an astrologer from his obligation of being honest, truthful and competent. regards / Prafulla Gang "Hard work never killed anybody", but why take the risk! > > panditarjun2004 > Tue, 08 Aug 2006 02:10:39 -0000 > > Re: SPEAK FREELY > > dear friends > > narayana murthy, azim premji, the tatas, the birlas, the ambanis, > the rajus, the nadars have all shown to sceptics that they are doing > world's best business by being in india with indian brains within > india. > > these days it has become a vogue for everyone to criticise the brain > drain which centuries ago was treated as a sin. such people were > treated as if they could not eke their livelihood within this > country and migrated to other countries for food. but this > perception has changed due to market dynamics. a farmer sells his > produce to the best available price. similarly a best brain renders > its services only to the best paymasters. > > except the modern entreprenuers listed above, all indian employers > treated indian best brains as cheap cattle and even today i find > many young graduates (even MBAs) getting salaries of rupees two > thousand per month in the captial delhi who work as marketers of > some bank products even when the government has laid down a law that > the lowest salary for an unskilled labour is around rupees four > thousand per month. a girl next door was drawing only rupee thre > thousand five hundred per month salary with a consultant even with > her MBA from symbiosis, pune. i made her to realise what her real > worth is and within a month she got better job which is in multiples > of that pittance. hence i fully support brain drain and rather > suggest that the skills must be given only to those who value them > best. > > ask all those who scream of brain drain as to how they are treating > their subordinates or how much salary they are offering to thier > employees. > > you all have criticised 1001 astrologers for their not having > skills. are there any free jyotish schools. are there any free > jyotish libraries. with the help of the click of a mouse you get > all divisional charts and keep prodding a traditional astrologer > with a flurry of computer generated queeis and indulge in brain > teasing. have you realised how these traditional astrologers > without any resources used to calcualte all the divisional charts > manually and the dasha systems as well. i also learnt in the hard > manual way but computer has made it easy. i was fortunate to have > got my laptop as a gift from a noble customer but where from all > resources come to astrologers. before this, i spent thousands of > rupees on internet at cybercafe and freely donated my astro > knoweldge to querents and also mantra and tantra knowledge to > fraternity and customers alike. but all intelligent people who > received my free services have given a dakshina and one very rich > astrologer having all comforts in the life not only exploited me > repeatedly but also took items on credit from me. i only thank him > for clearing my debt. when the exploitation has become too much, i > stopped giving free readings to bear minimum and am giving only free > knowledge or advice. > > the height of hypocricy is displayed by people screaming loudly from > their airconditioned drawingroom or stealing time (kaam chor) from > their office to write all astro related queries and seek, rather > demand, free answers and drub all astrologers charging money as > bad. my leant friend tatvamji criticised only those astrologers WHO > ADVERTISE THEMSELVES as moneyminded. but today there are 1001 > telivision channels and every one wants to match the others contents > and hence everyone is approaching various astrologers to share time > for them. when the rich and famous have no time, small timers are > making a hey day. any way, i strongly preach and practice that > there are no free lunches and to get something you have to give > something. "JO KHAALI HAATH AAYEGA, WOH KHAALI HAATH JAAYEGA". > > it is nothing more than hypocricy if one advises that astrolgoers > shall give only free advise because it is a kind of daan and the > receipient accumulates karmic debt. also to show their prowess or > to hone our skills, some astros give free readings. i told publicly > that i am clearing my karmic debt by giving free readings. there > are two kinds of people, one who set up a langar at a temple and > distribute free food and many who stop their bikes and cars and rush > to grab that free food. > > with best wishes > pandit arjun > (a realised person is always in the giving hand without having > anything and an unrealised person is always in the receiving hand > even after having everything) > , "bhaskar_jyotish" > <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: >> >> Dear Friends, >> >> It also makes me sad when my co-Indians go abroad on working or >> students visas, then also marry there but when the time of birth > of >> their children comes, they instead of coming back to India ,so > that the >> child is Indian born, instead ,prefer to stay there to give their >> child birth there itself, to grant citizen status to their > children, >> and these same people when some >> fear of political retribution is received from other countries to >> their resident foreign country, they come back with bag and > baggage, >> back to India in the safety of their mothers warmth arms. >> But I think I am not supposed to say all this. I should look good >> by not saying all this. But then You are all my friends. I cannot > keep >> my inner thoughts concealed from You and mantain a seperate facade. >> Double standards or hypocrisy is not easily digestable. >> Forgive me for having hurt anyone. >> >> Yours, >> Bhaskar. >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji Each person has a role. Look from the perspective that, those people who have migrated, have worked as brand ambassador for country, helped in bringing outsourcing work into the country and have been big contributory to foreign exchange. Can you imagine the plight of nation, without adequate foreign exchange reserve? Indians living abroad, have invested heavily back home; and at some stage these investments (including in business enterprises) have helped in country building process. regards / Prafulla Gang "Hard work never killed anybody", but why take the risk! > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:44:09 -0000 > > SPEAK FREELY > > Dear Friends, > I am proud to be an Indian but also feel sad at times. > when the smartest brains migrate to foreign countries and shine there, > and we have to bask in their glory from distance. though whatsoever it > maybe at least they are my brothers from the same soil, > India, which is very much consoling to the heart. > Regards, > Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji You have made a very bold statement. What is wrong in settling in another territory for work (irrespective of political boundaries). How many people have moved to another city for better career / life etc, within India? Is it OK...if yes, then what is wrong, if people have moved to Europe / US etc. There are still 100 crore+ population to take care of country; and if 100+ crore fails to live to minimum working standards, why blame few hundred thousands living away. They too, are contributing to the country. The entire IT industry (billions of dollars) is prospering for them only!!!! regards / Prafulla Gang "Hard work never killed anybody", but why take the risk! > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:59:10 -0000 > > SPEAK FREELY > > Dear Friends, > > It also makes me sad when my co-Indians go abroad on working or > students visas, then also marry there but when the time of birth of > their children comes, they instead of coming back to India ,so that the > child is Indian born, instead ,prefer to stay there to give their > child birth there itself, to grant citizen status to their children, > and these same people when some > fear of political retribution is received from other countries to > their resident foreign country, they come back with bag and baggage, > back to India in the safety of their mothers warmth arms. > But I think I am not supposed to say all this. I should look good > by not saying all this. But then You are all my friends. I cannot keep > my inner thoughts concealed from You and mantain a seperate facade. > Double standards or hypocrisy is not easily digestable. > Forgive me for having hurt anyone. > > Yours, > Bhaskar. __________ GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos and music online! Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Shri Prafullji, Thats exactly the point I wished to put across. That people have moved outside for work or brain drain, because something is missing here in India ? Isnt it ? Regards/Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > You have made a very bold statement. > > What is wrong in settling in another territory for work (irrespective of political boundaries). How many people have moved to another city for better career / life etc, within India? Is it OK...if yes, then what is wrong, if people have moved to Europe / US etc. There are still 100 crore+ population to take care of country; and if 100+ crore fails to live to minimum working standards, why blame few hundred thousands living away. They too, are contributing to the country. The entire IT industry (billions of dollars) is prospering for them only!!!! > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > "Hard work never killed anybody", but why take the risk! > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish > > Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:59:10 -0000 > > > > SPEAK FREELY > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > It also makes me sad when my co-Indians go abroad on working or > > students visas, then also marry there but when the time of birth of > > their children comes, they instead of coming back to India ,so that the > > child is Indian born, instead ,prefer to stay there to give their > > child birth there itself, to grant citizen status to their children, > > and these same people when some > > fear of political retribution is received from other countries to > > their resident foreign country, they come back with bag and baggage, > > back to India in the safety of their mothers warmth arms. > > But I think I am not supposed to say all this. I should look good > > by not saying all this. But then You are all my friends. I cannot keep > > my inner thoughts concealed from You and mantain a seperate facade. > > Double standards or hypocrisy is not easily digestable. > > Forgive me for having hurt anyone. > > > > Yours, > > Bhaskar. > > __________ > GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos and music online! > Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Dear Bhaskar ji I agree. Economic factors rule for anyone's movement from one place to another. Astrology does not define "foreign", even punjab is foreign for person living in bengal. Yes, crossing sea is another element in working out foreign. Did you observe that, 12th house does not become that malefic, once person relocate ( from materialistic pursuits)? Likewise, 8th house becomes biggest dhan giver (in bulk !!). regards / Prafulla Gang "Hard work never killed anybody", but why take the risk! > > bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in > Tue, 08 Aug 2006 05:48:05 -0000 > > Re: SPEAK FREELY > > Shri Prafullji, > > Thats exactly the point I wished to put across. That people have > moved outside for work or brain drain, because something is missing > here in India ? Isnt it ? > > Regards/Bhaskar. > > > , Prafulla Gang <jyotish > wrote: >> >> Dear Bhaskar ji >> >> You have made a very bold statement. >> >> What is wrong in settling in another territory for work > (irrespective of political boundaries). How many people have moved to > another city for better career / life etc, within India? Is it > OK...if yes, then what is wrong, if people have moved to Europe / US > etc. There are still 100 crore+ population to take care of country; > and if 100+ crore fails to live to minimum working standards, why > blame few hundred thousands living away. They too, are contributing > to the country. The entire IT industry (billions of dollars) is > prospering for them only!!!! >> >> regards / Prafulla Gang >> >> "Hard work never killed anybody", but why take the risk! >> >> >>> >>> bhaskar_jyotish >>> Mon, 07 Aug 2006 18:59:10 -0000 >>> >>> SPEAK FREELY >>> >>> Dear Friends, >>> >>> It also makes me sad when my co-Indians go abroad on working or >>> students visas, then also marry there but when the time of birth > of >>> their children comes, they instead of coming back to India ,so > that the >>> child is Indian born, instead ,prefer to stay there to give their >>> child birth there itself, to grant citizen status to their > children, >>> and these same people when some >>> fear of political retribution is received from other countries to >>> their resident foreign country, they come back with bag and > baggage, >>> back to India in the safety of their mothers warmth arms. >>> But I think I am not supposed to say all this. I should look good >>> by not saying all this. But then You are all my friends. I cannot > keep >>> my inner thoughts concealed from You and mantain a seperate > facade. >>> Double standards or hypocrisy is not easily digestable. >>> Forgive me for having hurt anyone. >>> >>> Yours, >>> Bhaskar. >> >> __________ >> GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos > and music online! >> Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! >> __________ GET FREE 5GB ONLINE STORAGE - Safely store your documents, photos and music online! Visit http://www.inbox.com/storage to find out more! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Dear Prafulla, //Did you observe that, 12th house does not become that malefic, once person relocate ( from materialistic pursuits)? Likewise, 8th house becomes biggest dhan giver (in bulk !!).// i agree with you on 12th lord but could you elaborate with some example for second part...how it works ...(8th lord) sriganeshh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 8th lord and 5th lord when aligned well, gives bulk gains. One need to see 5th/8,th house too and sun regards / Prafulla Gang "Hard work never killed anybody", but why take the risk! > > sriganeshh > Tue, 08 Aug 2006 06:24:11 -0000 > > Re: SPEAK FREELY > > Dear Prafulla, > > //Did you observe that, 12th house does not become that malefic, once > person relocate ( from materialistic pursuits)? Likewise, 8th house > becomes biggest dhan giver (in bulk !!).// > > i agree with you on 12th lord but could you elaborate with some > example for second part...how it works ...(8th lord) > > sriganeshh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Shri Panditji, Pranams, You said it all Sir what I wanted to say. The best brain renders it services only to the best paymasters. Which also implies that in India the payment is not upto the mark. So something is wrong here. Being proud Indian is not all a lovey and dovey story, when pockets are empty and brains are better. Windows,Microsoft which is the windows based program which crores of people all over the world run their computers with, had the Indians who contributd their knowledge,instead of doing it to foreign masters, did it to Indian masters, the story would have been different. You cannot run Your computer officially if You have not paid few thousand Rupees officially to the subsidiaries of Microsoft operating systems. Where does that money go? I can give hundreds of examples where brain drain has happened from India, and afterwards we have had to pay money to use the results of the same Indians brains to their foreign owners. By the way educated Indians when they leave India so humble, simple and approachable, when they come back for a short stay You will find them haughty, proud and with disgust in their eyes for fellow Indians and their living lifestyles. Apart from monetary contribution which only their own family receives, this is what they contribute back. (Nottalking of exceptions) Why did these educated peoples brains be treated like cheap cattle to make them go to foreign soils ? Certainly something was missing here for them, not complete. When value for these are not given to these best brains in India, how can anyone go to the roof top and scream about India and being proud Indian. They will rather say America- proud American yellow card holder, green card holder, where good value is given to their brain and also give birth to children on that soil only. So talk is different and hakeekat is different. We may love to say all that but people having good money in pockets will first take a tour of the world instead of going on visit to Indian cities, places of interest, hill stations, temples or Chaar Dham. Sir I agree that people are taking advantage of astrologers who are giving free advices. They should not ask for free advice if they have little self respect. But mentality has become such that everyone wants to grab for free, and they dont understand that quality part may be missing in whatever they get for free.,or quality could have been better. (Again exceptions are there, many astrologers even if give free readings, give time and labour) If a astrologers gives totally free advice then from where will he meet his expenses, and what about these people asking for free. When we can pay to Doctors fee for every visit, to school fees for teaching their child, to tuition fees every month, to CA for professional advice taken, big people pay thousands to visit pschyiatrist who listens to their sordid tales of fantasy for hours in lieu of fat packets, then why not pay to astrolgers who are really trying to help people and remove their pains genuinely ? Panditji, above was just putting my thoughts, see every one has his own views and affections which keep changing by the day , sometimes they may seem in conformity and sometimes the opposite, but love and hatred both have to exist simultaneously together in our hearts for India, Indians, for migrants, for brain drains, and for our views too. I hope that with the above now all of us have had enough and we now move to something else,new topics. affectionately, Bhaskar. , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote: > > dear friends > > narayana murthy, azim premji, the tatas, the birlas, the ambanis, > the rajus, the nadars have all shown to sceptics that they are doing > world's best business by being in india with indian brains within > india. > > these days it has become a vogue for everyone to criticise the brain > drain which centuries ago was treated as a sin. such people were > treated as if they could not eke their livelihood within this > country and migrated to other countries for food. but this > perception has changed due to market dynamics. a farmer sells his > produce to the best available price. similarly a best brain renders > its services only to the best paymasters. > > except the modern entreprenuers listed above, all indian employers > treated indian best brains as cheap cattle and even today i find > many young graduates (even MBAs) getting salaries of rupees two > thousand per month in the captial delhi who work as marketers of > some bank products even when the government has laid down a law that > the lowest salary for an unskilled labour is around rupees four > thousand per month. a girl next door was drawing only rupee thre > thousand five hundred per month salary with a consultant even with > her MBA from symbiosis, pune. i made her to realise what her real > worth is and within a month she got better job which is in multiples > of that pittance. hence i fully support brain drain and rather > suggest that the skills must be given only to those who value them > best. > > ask all those who scream of brain drain as to how they are treating > their subordinates or how much salary they are offering to thier > employees. > > you all have criticised 1001 astrologers for their not having > skills. are there any free jyotish schools. are there any free > jyotish libraries. with the help of the click of a mouse you get > all divisional charts and keep prodding a traditional astrologer > with a flurry of computer generated queeis and indulge in brain > teasing. have you realised how these traditional astrologers > without any resources used to calcualte all the divisional charts > manually and the dasha systems as well. i also learnt in the hard > manual way but computer has made it easy. i was fortunate to have > got my laptop as a gift from a noble customer but where from all > resources come to astrologers. before this, i spent thousands of > rupees on internet at cybercafe and freely donated my astro > knoweldge to querents and also mantra and tantra knowledge to > fraternity and customers alike. but all intelligent people who > received my free services have given a dakshina and one very rich > astrologer having all comforts in the life not only exploited me > repeatedly but also took items on credit from me. i only thank him > for clearing my debt. when the exploitation has become too much, i > stopped giving free readings to bear minimum and am giving only free > knowledge or advice. > > the height of hypocricy is displayed by people screaming loudly from > their airconditioned drawingroom or stealing time (kaam chor) from > their office to write all astro related queries and seek, rather > demand, free answers and drub all astrologers charging money as > bad. my leant friend tatvamji criticised only those astrologers WHO > ADVERTISE THEMSELVES as moneyminded. but today there are 1001 > telivision channels and every one wants to match the others contents > and hence everyone is approaching various astrologers to share time > for them. when the rich and famous have no time, small timers are > making a hey day. any way, i strongly preach and practice that > there are no free lunches and to get something you have to give > something. "JO KHAALI HAATH AAYEGA, WOH KHAALI HAATH JAAYEGA". > > it is nothing more than hypocricy if one advises that astrolgoers > shall give only free advise because it is a kind of daan and the > receipient accumulates karmic debt. also to show their prowess or > to hone our skills, some astros give free readings. i told publicly > that i am clearing my karmic debt by giving free readings. there > are two kinds of people, one who set up a langar at a temple and > distribute free food and many who stop their bikes and cars and rush > to grab that free food. > > with best wishes > pandit arjun > (a realised person is always in the giving hand without having > anything and an unrealised person is always in the receiving hand > even after having everything) > , "bhaskar_jyotish" > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Dear Friends, > > > > It also makes me sad when my co-Indians go abroad on working or > > students visas, then also marry there but when the time of birth > of > > their children comes, they instead of coming back to India ,so > that the > > child is Indian born, instead ,prefer to stay there to give their > > child birth there itself, to grant citizen status to their > children, > > and these same people when some > > fear of political retribution is received from other countries to > > their resident foreign country, they come back with bag and > baggage, > > back to India in the safety of their mothers warmth arms. > > But I think I am not supposed to say all this. I should look good > > by not saying all this. But then You are all my friends. I cannot > keep > > my inner thoughts concealed from You and mantain a seperate facade. > > Double standards or hypocrisy is not easily digestable. > > Forgive me for having hurt anyone. > > > > Yours, > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2006 Report Share Posted August 8, 2006 Dear, Example-a) Sun Karaka for father when dies, will leave big inheritance to son. b) Gratuity recd, after service is lost. c) Insurance after loss of some limb. Iam not sure this is the appropriate example what was meant to convey, or not, but my input...... Regards/Bhaskar. , Prafulla Gang <jyotish wrote: > > 8th lord and 5th lord when aligned well, gives bulk gains. One need to see 5th/8,th house too and sun > > > regards / Prafulla Gang > > "Hard work never killed anybody", but why take the risk! > > > > > > sriganeshh > > Tue, 08 Aug 2006 06:24:11 -0000 > > > > Re: SPEAK FREELY > > > > Dear Prafulla, > > > > //Did you observe that, 12th house does not become that malefic, once > > person relocate ( from materialistic pursuits)? Likewise, 8th house > > becomes biggest dhan giver (in bulk !!).// > > > > i agree with you on 12th lord but could you elaborate with some > > example for second part...how it works ...(8th lord) > > > > sriganeshh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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